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#30 From: "johanhendrick" <johanhendrick@...>
Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:18 am
Subject:: Fw: Assuming You Read what I said
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i have read your blog it sems fair and balanced ,
not reflecting a bias one way or the other ,
simply stating the facts ,
we are all different ,some dwelling in the past some dwelling in the present ,thing is my parents were given[bought] a house it is not my inheritance .thus i bought my own ,the house was taken given to someone else  ,now what do i do say this is gods will or insist i still own it
shall i leave my own house kick out whoever is in it activlly propigate distrust fear to get it back or move on
i moved on figured what would they know about me ,i dont know the language ,dont like the climate i look to the future
trying not to live in the past i move on
some dont thats fine
seems that those kicked out od europe didnt want thier homes decided to go back to the promised land with might '
that dosnt seem right but who am i to judge i byuilt my house on aborigonal lands ,so i made peace and treaty with this lands people
let the past be past
god is a living god ,alive in this moment ,ok i dont know the same god [wrathfilled god] but he is a loving living god ,and i think thats better than the god god was in the book
we all change god may or may not have changed but perhaps we can see the god [the one god ] with grown up eyes
see the light of god sustains us to live  ,to love to grow up yet to give back to god that he gave all free and clear ,not land  alone but living loving life eternal peace just by loving god and loving neighbour
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#29 From: "johanhendrick" <johanhendrick@...>
Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:24 am
Subject:: Fw: live your beliefs
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Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:23 am
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Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:22 am
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#25 From: "johanhendrick" <johanhendrick@...>
Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:20 am
Subject:: Fw: Feedback feeding the children is good butindigionou
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i have tried to help the adults ,and while your donation is a great thing ,this is not an answer [in and of itself]
there are bad systems failures with our and i presume many indiginous peoples
for egsample it is not uncommon for 20 to live in one house,
the house not to have a working toilet , nor privacy ,nor food stuff  and often no power ,blanketts ,in short it is not enough to feed the children
one in 5 die before the age of 5
22 out of every 100 live to the age of 65 [for men]
this means 78 out of every 100o men die very young
67//100 woman die before 65
ie 33 out of one hundred die before age 65
many die never having had a job ,one in four are molestered as children ,in some cases all of a tribe may have been molestered repeatedly
the education they do recieve is basic ,very basic ,there have been some top of thier class who on going to uni find they really learned nothing [basicclly wasted time going to school ,]even the brightest still wont find a job ,but why?
 
they are basiclly kept in camps ,selective areas away from any but base needs ,the costs of everything is double what others get ,they are forced into communal possesion of every thing
basiclly if i get paid i shout till its all gone ,then someone else shouts me tioll thats gone and we all do with out for the rest of the 2 weeks time
anything bought will get broken by jeolous or drunken excess ,if you wont give it they break it
but enough of the problems ,whats the answer ,ther only leaders they have take orders from white do gooding servants ,who get generous pay to make up for bad circumstances ,but you rarley see a benevolent leaders ,,segrigation hasnt worked ,it just allows the problems to be hidden
the wealthy farmers sitting on thier lands send thier children away you get educated ,properly educated but this would destroy thier link to country and again wouldnt work
the problem is they are shoved into towns
they need villages ,they need to get back thier own lands and controll them to return to thier strongest proven survival by that as a family ,but how can this be done world wide ,for this is world wide ,i see such as opra training girls to lead  to educatec the mothers ,but for short time boarding 2/.3 weeks at a time ,and with all of a certain level of learning getting intensive learning that allows them to rule thier own village
the woman and children will rule you rule ,
keeping the mens and womans buisness and under the guidence of the elders
well i know you are busy
bless you for that done in your name ,
your name can help things change but know this is the first i heard you were even in australia
word doesnt get out
perhaps thats what your show could do
any way bless you
your message is good
your smile is good teaching for the dispossesed coloured children of the great god
may the peace be made whole

#24 From: "johanhendrick" <johanhendrick@...>
Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:19 am
Subject:: Fw: Please review 'Life In The World Unseenl'
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Please review the attached document.
it is downloaded from angelfire web site it is a story about a bishop who in life decried spiritual comunication given special dispensation to correct and rebut it
it link up to other writings
i am slowly reading again and again
the other titles include a wandere in spiritual lands
gone west heaven and earth  ,they sort of inter link
describing much about the after being
of course we must all make up our own minds but it rings true ,no last judgement but as christ revealed instant rebirth ,depending on our nature ,in time it reveals the power of prayer and stages of our spiritual growth
again and importantly it only reveals that man will in time learn
all the best '
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#23 From: "johanhendrick" <johanhendrick@...>
Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:17 am
Subject:: Fw: You Read what I said
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auther , the zion-ism i really dont even have a real concept of it but that some jews believe in having a home land ,im fine with that ,as i said about having a home land being equal to caucasion i dont get that
 
bro i have jewis roots ,my first symbol was the star
but my parents told me i didnt need to read the book because there is nothing in it that leads to any solution
wasnt till i went to jail i read the new testimony of jesus
then had to read the old
far as i can see there we were given as promised
then reading other bits see how we still didnt give back to god ,most of it is how again and again we refuse to see the god is a /the god of love
not hate
thats where we get it wrong
the christians get it wrong by thinking the messenger of god is the god ,we still getting it wrong
man i dont have any idea but god is love and we are doing every thing so as not to see this
god is every thing
but even gods favoured think its about land
all land is holy
all land berlongs to god
he sent his son [who is not a child of god]everyone is
i can see why my [parents gave up on all religion
but not why they gave up on god
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#22 From: "johanhendrick" <johanhendrick@...>
Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:13 am
Subject:: Fw: please father for the son of the father guidence.in our time.
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#21 From: "johanhendrick" <johanhendrick@...>
Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:12 am
Subject:: Fw: Reply to : Hi Johann
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i dont take offence
it is strange that you concern about me who you dont know ,yet then also see a way to kill those you dont
war is about killing.
i cant go past that ,it is written in my heart ,its what i measure every thing else against,
if i have a thought that involves killing i know it isnt from god /good.
to help you see where im deficient know i have studied and read mary baker eddie ,luther ,jehova witness ,new age and old age christ based works ,buddist ,zen ,and muslem texts ,
i have read many works of science as well as ron hubbard ,/new age ,spititiualists and islamic and jewish texts ,the dead sea scrolls ,gnostics,theoist works ,in short if it made mention of god i read it ,as well as news ,astronimy ,astrology ,divination you name it ,god is real ,and war for any reason isnt just
whats wrong with histler was an adviser who gave him a deluded vision ,to build a new holy land ,nessitating the removal of the jews [my ancestors ] to house the elites that needed to be removed  ,he is a patsy ,fed lies and deciets such as a right to maske war ,to kill most of my family ,just to have free labour and rehouse those good germains that needed the jews homes
where does hate get us
will i get my family back
death has no sting ,i was born dead ,jesus died that sin be dead in me ,in all of us if truth be realised
if hister [ok hitler] accepted christ then christ died for him too ,i dont want to be ibn the same place as him
but id jesus can forgive and god has grace how can i blame him,
im sick of the judging this man a friend that man an enimmy
all men are my teacher ,what is basic human doctrine but fear ,war ,hate ,greed kill destroy
i remove the human from that i read [no man can be perfect] that leaves the good that i feel is the perfect ,truth that god is ,god is love ,all love ,all grace the light that sustains life ,that the life see the light is good ,that the love is truth
all not of the light is of man who yet can become part of the light by ignoring the darkness in all men,
who is a jew ,who is ,e-
vil who is a yank ,a terrorist are all absurd names that divide and make doctrine of war,
i am a human
i well may be decieved and hated and despised by all who i have called my teachers ,but i will not choose between you and them ,nor me nor you ,im past where words in a book can penitrate to that in my mind i gave to god ,i try to read but what reason for reading if its a doctrine ,tell of god ,i know man ,i know man can /is /has and will be decieved as much as deciever ,if man/races were hands we would have the left hand praying to god oh god pleas kill the tight
and the right praying to god pleas kill the left
then perhaps in his wisdom god will/would remove both
and all of us would be harmless as well as disarmed
i wont change you
and im too old to change by any words ,any texts ,i have read over 19,000 ,books leafletts and papers
all words /oppinion of men
i shall not stand before my god with the blood of any of his children on my hands ,i have the blood of doves and a goat ,allready to explain ,they proved me there is no credit in killing only  blame /and great shame
i am as much a christian as a jew ,.a buddist as an islambist ,a swedenborgist and a baker ,lutherin and the rest ,i will be welcome in no place i go but i know god is every where spirit can go.
you are correct ,unteachable ,it costs nothing to know god.
again thank you for your concern.
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Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:54 PM
Subject: RE: Reply to : Hi Johann

Im afraid you have a lot of misunderstandings in the Bible. You mentioned Swedenborg. That may explain a lot. Swedenborg founded a religious cult called Swedenborgianism. He and they deny essential doctrines of the Holy Bible including the deity of the Holy Spirit and has the belief all religions lead to God. You would do well to avoid his teachings. I am sorry if this is harsh, but it is true. The doctrine of Just War is as valid today as it ever was. Was it wrong to fight against Hitler? I might suggest you study basic Christian doctrine and quit trying to impose pacifism onto Christs teaching. You keep calling these extremists Gods children, but according to Scripture, only those adopted into the family of God by having a relationship with Him through faith in His Son Jesus Christ. It all comes down to having a Christian worldview. When I spoke of terrorists coming into the schools here, I did not mean Chechnyans, I meant Muslim extremists. If we (Americans) do not stand up to this threat, we will have terrorists in our schools and on our streets. If you are a Christian, then you are already in a war. It is a war between good and evil and you need to choose a side.

 

I would be happy to recommend some good books and Bible studies, but I suspect you are unteachable in this regard.

 

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:29 PM
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Yes this is much easier to communicate. Let me introduce myself, my name is Steve. You are correct that God is not pleased with war, but He is displeased with pacifism even more. ???

...true to a point he wishes us to have passion ,

he hates salt that has lost its flavour ,but evil has greater passion to do its vile than the good has passion to do the good..and while it is that pasivisim for the sake of the easy path is not of high worth ,he clearly wants that we not kill ,for what of that simplest and plain command-men-t //thou shalt not kill? or for why the plough shares from the tools of war.

 

the koran perhaps may advocate reasons for war  or jihad but even it ranks war jehad below the war on sickness and ignorance

but a prince of peace cannot be made a god of war but by one having a god before Him ,the true god or by virtue of unvirtue of fear and judgment

 

 

There is never a time to go to war./there is a time to give to ceaser that of ceaser //god that of god  

to make end to war and a ginning to peace

 

A few years ago Muslim extremists [[redominantly war widows]]]entered a grade school in Chechnya and [[ russian overeaction ]killed over 300 children.

 

These are the people we are fighting.??/ WE?

 

we are of duty to minester to gods children to bring home to god all gods children ,people have hates  /fear /delusion thinking

that to simply despatch evil to hell doesnt have a pay back or a cost,google in gone west ,angel fire

read what evil spirits yet can do as dead!

 

know that even evil has a room in gods house ,we know it as hell ,swedenberg  revealed even evil has an after being ,other writings confirm demons are real ,but there is the division of hell from heaven ,that those who kill cannot ever be in the same place as those they have killed

god has grace not man ,give me where the word reveals thou can/shall/must kill ,this is not in my holy texts ,

you say..

'I want them stopped before they start coming into schools in my country and start killing children here. '

 

i think this is assured ,chetsnians are about thier own buisness ,unless you are in chetsnia it is unlikly they ever will send a terrorist to any school near you

 

'he only way to stop them is to kill them.'

....if this is true then god should have sent satan

/an eye for an eye?

jesus rebutted that

what of peter cutting the ear off those solgers who came to kill our christ

did heaheal his killers ear?

did he not ask forgivness for those who strung him up to the cross ?

did he at his worst moment call the legions of williong angels down to extract vengence?

please

you cannot be>>>'I am a minister of Gods Word. '<<

and disregard that revealed by his son.

 

'here is a biblical doctrine of a Just War.'..>>

long ago rebutted as wrong

 

 

God commands us to judge good and [[from ]] evil and to fight [[[our will to do ]]]evil  where necessary.

 

Yes, God hates people dying in war, but He also hates people dying from terrorism.

 

And He hates people standing aside while these terrorists freely [[insit others to]] kill.

 

In Christ, [name or gods]

 

Steve Pugh

 

 

 


#20 From: "johanhendrick" <johanhendrick@...>
Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:07 am
Subject:: Fw: re jesus life [your book]
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jesus revealed much of his life in his parrables
he was the one helped by the samaritin ,he scattered the seed on the road and noted it did not grow
he knew by growing the wheat/tares the revelation revealed from humble seeds of/by real life witness he saw the teachings behind.
 
the need for his apostles for miricles have inportant meanings as well about human nature/thus about we whos image we reprisent
with the canna wedding jesus clearly states it is not yet my time
yet despite him clearly saying 'i dont care if you give them the water from the hand washing jars [the most high of statements ,saying in affect go away] there comes the teaching of the servant
better to risk a beating and give the hosts private stash than to shame the host on this special day
human nature keeps the best of things ,but a slaves l;oyalty is tied to the respect his master holds
further feeding 4 thousand jews who cant eat because they had to wash thier hands according to custom and propriatry[ritual with the jars] before they could eat ,who yet gave freely of thier own supplies [as with the oils lamp teachings to have oil lest the groom come ] that they had with them as gift in case rite could be satisfied
a point highlighted later when it was revealed it is not that a man puts into his mouth that make him unclean but that which comes out of it
well excuse my ill concieved ,unintended slight ,but he did say
by thier deeds will you know them
just as by his stories will we know our christ.

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Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:05 am
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Drug Dog Use Questioned

Katherine Danks, news.com.au, 15th September 2006

NEW South Wales drug sniffer dogs have been been branded an expensive failure.

It follows a report showing that prosecutions result from fewer than one per cent of the searches the dogs initiate.

NSW Ombudsman Bruce Barbour today said there was little value in using dogs to screen people in public places in the hope of tracking down drug dealers.

An ombudsman report tabled in NSW Parliament today showed just 19 out of more than 10,000 people tested for drugs were prosecuted for drug supply between 2002 and 2004.

But the NSW Government says it won't pension off the sniffer dogs, insisting they contribute to breaking down the illicit drug trade.

“I think 19 people prosecuted successfully for the use or supply of drugs, that are illicit drugs, is an entirely satisfactory outcome,” Acting Police Minister David Campbell said.

The Police Powers (Drug Detection Act) came into force in February 2002 with the aim of targeting drug supply.

It gave police the power to search people without a warrant in entertainment venues and on public transport.

But today's report, released two years after it was completed, questioned whether the laws should exist at all after finding most people searched were found not to be carrying drugs.

Greens MP Lee Rhiannon said the dogs harass young people who use recreational drugs and are ineffective at catching the “Mr Bigs”.

“Today's release of the ombudsman's report, after the Greens used parliament to force the Government to release it, exposes that sniffer dogs have been an expensive failure,” Ms Rhiannon said.

Opposition police spokesman Mike Gallacher supported their use, saying it was less intrusive for police to enter a nightclub with sniffer dogs than to obtain a search warrant, shut the premises down and strip-search people inside.

The ombudsman's report showed most people found to be carrying drugs had very small amounts of cannabis for personal use.

Other drugs located during the two-year review period included ecstasy, methamphetamine, cocaine and heroin.

The majority of people successfully prosecuted for supply were carrying drugs for their friends or partners at large events, such as dance parties, the report said.

It also said there was anecdotal evidence to suggest that drug dog operations may encourage persons to “engage in risky drug taking practices”.

Mr Barbour said he had “significant reservations” about whether the use of sniffer dogs in public places will ever effectively target drug suppliers.

“Despite the best efforts of police, the evidence suggests that there is little value in trying to identify drug dealers by screening people with drug detection dogs in public places,” he said.

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the high court ruled using a sniffer dog was the same as a policeman using a torch
my reply is where does the policeman turn it on after or before he has reasonable doudt?
clearly a dog is a policeman who is using illegal and invasive search empowermeant ,training dogs to sniff for drugs and not childmolesters nor terrorists is discrimatry.
further the laws are unconstitutional ,no part of any state or federal constitution ,allows for the charging of a plant [while inground legally a fixture] to be classed as a drug ,let alone by the lie of deening by act and scedual a plant to be a salt [drug] extract
nor to charge and imprison any personal drug use ,by deeming a plant a fungable ie a tradable commodity sans proof it was for sale.
no other activity has been declared war upon ,also that war on its own citisenry is unconstitutional ,noting child molestation ,murder ,rape theft fraud and other public dangers not having war delared upon them being discrimination
that taxonomical id is inconsistant to dna ,that cannabis sativa l is only a type of cannabis ,specificlly aimed by dupont and hurst mews papers at removing a buisness competitor for fibre and rope /paper makket restriction of trade.

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Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:02 am
Subject:: Fw: Medical Marijuana and ADD..
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micheal
well its a positive
not real fussed on maintain prohibition tag
what about reduce prohibition ,reduce crime
or
end the crime of prohibiting self medication
still favour that quote its a plant not a drug
or can govt declare war on drugusing citisens
its a plant not a drug
 
saw peter till today
know 7 / 9 /and abc radio covered him and the plant
 
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Webgreetings. Please take the time to view, as it is quite interesting.

Excellent You tube movie from NBC USA; an interview with a lady doctor who sees cannabis as safer than Ritalin for ADD and AHDD treatment for adolescents....good ending.

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Subject:: Fw: Federal Reserve Banks IRS US Government Treason Rebellion Insurrection14
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This is what the courts had to say about the Federal Reserve System. The following are excerpts from the case of First National Bank vs. Jerome Daly, Presiding Justice of the Peace Martin V. Mahoney ruled:

"The emission of Bills of Credit (by banks) upon their Books, without consideration and the issuance of Federal Reserve Notes without consideration to circulate as legal tender for the payment of debts is not permitted expressly or implied by the Constitution of the United States. Paper, whether money or not, is always illegal unless it is fully representative of some material commodity . . .

The issues in this case were simple. There was no material dispute on the facts for the Jury to resolve.

Plaintiff admitted that it, in combination with the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis, which are for all practical purposes, because of their interlocking activity and practices, and both being Banking Institutions Incorporated under the laws of the United States, are in law to be treated as one and the same bank, did create the entire $14,000 in money or credit upon its own books by bookkeeping entry. That this was the Consideration used to support the Note dated May 8, 1964 and the Mortgage of the same date. The money and credit first came into existence when they created It. Mr. Morgan admitted that no United States Law or Statute existed which gave him the right to do this. A lawful consideration must exist and be tendered to support the Note . . .

It has been determined, independent of Acts of Congress, that sailing under the license of an enemy is illegal. The emission of Bills of Credit upon books of these private Corporations, for the purposes of private gain is not warranted by the Constitution of the United States and is unlawful . . .

NOTICE OF REFUSAL TO ALLOW APPEAL

To: Hugo L. Hentges, Clerk of the District Court

You will please take Notice that the undersigned Justice of the Peace, Martin V. Mahoney, hereby, pursuant to law, refuses to allow the Appeal in the above entitled action, and refuses to make an entry of such allowance in the undersigned's Docket. The undersigned also refuses to file in the office of the clerk of the District Court in and for Scott County, Minnesota, a transcript of all entries made in my Docket, together with all process and other papers relating to the action and filed with me as Justice of the Peace.

The undersigned concludes and determines that M.S.A. 532.38 was not complied with within 10 days after entry of Judgment in my Justice of the Peace Court. Subdivision 4 thereof requires that $2.00 shall be paid within 10 days to the clerk of the District Court, for the use of the Justice before whom the cause was tried.

Two so-called "One Dollar" Federal Reserve Notes were deposited with the Clerk of the District Court to be tendered to me.

These Federal Reserve Notes are not lawful money within the contemplation of the Constitution of the United States and are null and void. Further the Notes on their face are not redeemable in Gold or Silver Coin nor there a fund set aside anywhere for the redemption of said Notes . . .

MEMO

I am bound by oath to support the Constitution of the United States and laws passed pursuant thereto and the Constitution and Laws of Minnesota not in conflict therewith. This is an important Case to both parties and involves issues, apparently, not previously decided before. It is also important to the public. The Clerk of the Court is an officer of the Judicial Branch of the State of Minnesota. His act is the act of the State. U.S. Constitution Article 1 Section 10 provides "No State Shall make anything but Gold and Silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts." The tender of the two Federal Reserve Notes runs counter to the fundamental Law of the land.

The Federal Reserve and National Banks exercise an exclusive monopoly and privilege of creating credit and issuing their notes at the expense of the public, which does not receive a fair equivalent. This scheme is obliquely designed for the benefit of an idle monopoly to rob, blackmail and oppress the producers of wealth. . . It has defied the lawfully Constituted Government . . .

Slavery and all its incidents, including Peonage, thralldom and debt created by fraud is universally prohibited in the United States. This case represents but another form of Slavery by the Bankers. Their position is not supported by the Constitution. The people [jury] have spoken their will in terms which cannot be misunderstood. It is indispensable to the preservation of the Union and independence and liberties of the people that this Court adhere only to mandates of the Constitution and administer it as written . . .

 

FINDINGS OF FACT, CONCLUSIONS OF LAW

JUDGMENT AND DETERMINATION

1. That the Federal Reserve Banking Corporation is a United States Corporation with twelve banks throughout the United States. That the First National Bank of Montgomery is also a United States Corporation, incorporated and existing under the laws of the United States and is a member of the Federal Reserve System.

2. That because of the interlocking control activities, transactions and practices, the Federal Reserve Banks and the National Banks are for all practical purposes, in the law, one and the same.

3. As is evidenced from the book "The Federal Reserve System; Its purpose and Function", put out by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and other evidence adduced herein, the Federal Reserve Banks and National Banks create money and credit upon their books and exercise the ultimate of expanding and reducing the supply of money or credit in these United States.

This creation of money or credit upon the Books of the Banks constitutes the creation of fiat money by bookkeeping entry.

Ninety percent or more of the credit never leaves the books of the Banks so they need produce no specie as backing.

When the Federal Reserve Banks and National Banks acquire United States Bonds and Securities, State Bonds and Securities, State Subdivision Bonds and Securities, mortgages on private Real property and mortgages on private personal property, the said banks create the money and credit upon their books by bookkeeping entry. The first time that the money comes into existence is when they create it. The banks create it out of nothing. No substantial fund of gold or silver is back of it, or any fund at all . . .

The Federal Reserve Notes in question in this case are unlawful and void upon the following grounds:

A. Said Notes are fiat money, not redeemable in gold or silver coin upon their face, not backed by gold or silver, and the notes are in want of some real or substantial fund being provided for their payment in redemption.

B. The Notes are obviously not gold or silver Coin.

C. The sole consideration paid for the One Dollar Federal Reserve Notes is in the neighborhood of nine-tenths of one cent, and therefore, there is no lawful consideration behind said Notes.

D. That said Notes do not conform to Title 12, United States Code, Sections 411 and 418. Title 31 USC, Section 462, insofar as it attempts to make Federal Reserve Notes and circulating Notes of the Federal Reserve Banks and National Banking Associations a legal tender for all debts, public and private, it is unconstitutional and void, being contrary to Article 1, Section 10, of the Constitution of the United States, which prohibits any State from making anything but gold and silver coin a tender, or impairing the obligation of contracts.

Now, therefore, by the virtue of the authority vested in me pursuant to the Declaration of Independence, the Northwest Ordinance of 1787, the Constitution of the United States of America and the Constitution of the State of Minnesota;

It is hereby DETERMINED, ORDERED AND ADJUDGED, that the Appeals Statutes of the State of Minnesota for Civil Appeals from this Court to the District Court is not complied with within 10 days after entry of Judgment. Therefore the Appeal is not allowed by this Court and my Docket so shows."

BY THE COURT

 

Martin V. Mahoney

Justice of the Peace

Credit River Township

Scott County, Minnesota

 

The Sheriff's sale of Mr. Daly's home was declared null and void. The court ordered the Sheriff to return the home to Mr. Daly, or he, the judge would have the Citizens of the County carry out the order. This landmark case has been kept from the eyes of the sleeping nation. Their motto is, "What the people don't know can't hurt us. Let us keep it that way."

Regarding the power to delegate the control of our money supply to a private corporation can be found in 16 Am Jur 2d, Section 347, which states: "The rule has become fixed that the legislature may not delegate legislative functions to private persons or groups, or to private corporations or a group of private corporations." Maybe someone needs to read the law to Congress because the have delegated the legislative function of controlling or money supply to a "private" corporation.

The following court cases support the fact that the banks are fraudulently making loans:

"A national bank has no power to lend its credit." (Farmers & Miners Bank vs. Bluefield National Bank, 11 F2d 83, 271 US 669)

"Banking Associations from the very nature of their business are prohibited from lending credit." (St. Louis Savings Bank vs. Parmalee 95 U. S. 557)

"National Banks may lend their money but not their credit." (Norton Grocery vs. Peoples National Bank, 144 S.E. 501, 151 Va. 195)

"Neither, as to include in its powers not incidental to them, is it a part of a bank's business to lend its credit. If a bank could lend its credit as well as its money, it might, if it received compensation and was not careful to put its name only to solid paper, make a great deal more than any lawful interest on its money would amount to. If not careful, the power would be the mother of panics . . . Indeed, lending credit is the exact opposite of lending money, which is the real business of banking, for while the latter creates a liability in favor of the bank, the former gives rise to a liability of the bank to another." (American Express Co. vs. Citizens State Bank, 194 NW 429)

"A bank can lend its money but not its credit." (First National Bank of Tallapoosa vs. Monroe, 135 Ga 614, 69 SE 1123, 32 LRA)

"It is not within the statutory powers for a national bank, even though solvent, to lend its credit . . ." (First Intermediate Credit Bank vs. Herisson, 33 F 2nd 841)

"A national bank, under federal law being limited in its powers and capacity, cannot lend its credit." (Howard & Foster Co. vs. Citizens National Bank of Union, 133 SC 202, 130 SE 758)

"Banking corporations cannot lend credit." (First National Bank of Amarillo vs. Slaton Independent School District, Tex Civ App 1933, 58 SW 2d 870)

"There is no doubt but what the law is that a national bank cannot lend its credit or become an accommodation endorser." (National Bank of Commerce vs. Atkinson, 55 Fed Rep 465)

"Nowhere is the express authority granted to the corporation to lend its credit." (Gardilner Trust vs. Augusta Trust, 134 Me 191; 291 US 245)

"A national bank has no authority to lend its credit." (Johnston vs. Charlottesville National Bank, C.C. Va. 1879, Fed Cas. 7425)

"A contract made by a corporation beyond the scope of its power corporate powers is unlawful and void." (McCormick vs. Market National Bank, 165 U.S. 538)

"A national bank . . . cannot lend its credit to another by becoming surety, endorser, or guarantor for him, such an act is ultra vires . . ." (Merchants' Bank vs. Baird, 160 F 642)

Despite the above court cases, Ralph Gelder, Superintendent, Department of Banks and Banking, State of Maine, said on Feb. 20, 1974, "A commercial bank is able to make a loan by simply creating a new demand deposit (so called checkbook money) through bookkeeping entry." This is in total contradiction to what the courts have said. Yet, that is exactly how the banksters create the money to loan to its customers or to buy government bonds.

"Federal Reserve bank credit does not consist of funds that the Reserve authorities get somewhere in order to lend, but constitute funds that they are empowered to create." (Federal Reserve Bank: Its Purposes and Functions, 1939 Edition)

"Act is ultra vires when corporation is without authority to perform it under any circumstance or for any purpose. By doctrine of ultra vires a contract made by a corporation beyond the scope of its corporate powers is unlawful." (Community Fed S&L vs. Fields, 128 F 2nd 705)

"A bank is not the holder in due course upon merely crediting the depositors account." (Bankers Trust vs. Nagler 229, NYS 2nd 142)

"A holder who does not give value cannot qualify as a holder in due course." (Uniform Commercial Code 3-303.1)

"Checks, drafts, money orders and bank notes [Federal Reserve Notes] are not lawful money of the United States." (State vs. Nealan, 48 Ore. 155)

"When an instrument [notes] lacks an unconditional promise to pay a sum certain at a fixed and determined time, it is only an acknowledgement of the debt and statutory presumptions like the presence of a valuable consideration, are not applicable." (Bader vs. Williams, 61 A 2d 637)

"A note is not negotiable unless it is payable at a time in the future." (Rhodes vs. Schofield, 82 So. 2d 236)

In a letter dated May 7, 1981, Michael Hodge, Assistant Attorney General, State of Michigan wrote, "Please be advised the United States Constitution Article I, Section 10 is binding on the States."

This is confirmed in Carol Zurn vs. Val Bjornson, Treasurer, State of Minnesota. Whereas, the plaintiff sued the defendant for payment in gold or silver Coin on a check drawn on the Treasury of the State of Minnesota. Justice of the Peace, Bill Drexler handed down this ruling: "Plaintiff is entitled to receive payment in gold and silver Coin in satisfaction of said check . . . Pursuant to LAW ONE DOLLAR is equal to 23.22 grains of pure gold or 371.25 grains of pure silver . . . Pursuant to Law neither this court nor the Treasurer of the State of Minnesota, the Defendant herein, can make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in payment of debts."

Justice of the Peace, Bill Drexler took his decision one step farther, he declared, "That Title 12, Sections 95a and Title 31, Section 443 making it a criminal offense to buy and sell gold and providing for penalties and confiscation of gold by reason of the possession thereof is unconstitutional and void."

In Bronson vs. Rhodes, the court ruled, "Lawful money of the United States could only be gold and silver, or that which by law is made its equivalent, so as to be exchangeable therefore at par and on demand." (74 U.S. 229, 247, 19 L. Ed. 141)

According to 12 USCS, Section 411, ". . . They [Federal Reserve Notes] shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand at the Treasury Department of the United States, in the city of Washington, D.C., or at any Federal Reserve bank." If Federal Reserve Notes shall be redeemed in `lawful' money, what kind of money would be unlawful?

"If money does not have the value it purports to have on its face, it cannot be legal tender." (Craig vs. Missouri, 29 U.S. 410) Try to redeem your legal tender Federal Reserve Notes for Gold or Silver. Good Luck!

"The United States is a national state which has a central banking system, the Federal Reserve System, and whose currency, for domestic purposes, is not convertible into any commodity." Beardsley Ruml, Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, 1946

The Honorable Larry Moritz, Municipal Judge, Spearville, Kansas, declared in 1981, "If Congress won't keep its part of the Constitutional bargain and coin money of gold and silver like Article I, Section 8, Clause 5 commands, there's no way my court can require anyone to pay fines. I am not here to protect certain people's investments, I am here to carry out the mandate of the U.S. and the Kansas Constitutions." Thank God we have some righteous judges still left in our Nation.

Bruce A. Budlong of the Department of the Treasury said, "The same monetary system that was established on April 2, 1792, is in effect today."

Section 20 of the 1792 Coinage Act, 1 Stat. 246 stipulates: ". . . That the money of the account of the United States shall be expressed in dollars . . . and that all accounts in the public offices and all proceedings in the courts of the United States shall be kept and in conformity to this regulation." This section of the Act has never been repealed and is still in effect today.

Section 314 of USCS 31 states the standard unit value as "the dollar consisting of 24 8/10 grains of gold, nine tenths fine and/or 371.25 grains of .999 fine silver as established shall be the standard unit of value, and all forms of money issued and coined by the United States shall be maintained at a parity of the value with this standard, and it shall be the duty of the Secretary of the Treasury to maintain such parity."

The Section 19 of the 1792 Coinage Act states, "That if any of the gold or silver coins which shall be struck or coined at the said mint shall be debased or made worse as to the proportion of fine gold or silver therein contained, or shall be less weight or value than the same out to be pursuant to the direction of this act, through the default or with connivance of any officers or persons who shall be employed at the said mint, for the purpose of profit or gain, or otherwise with a fraudulent intent, if any of the said officers or persons shall embezzle any of the metals . . . every such officer or person who shall commit any or either of the said offenses, shall be deemed guilty of felony, and shall suffer DEATH."

Reach into your pocket, look at the money. The silver and gold have been embezzled by the Federal Reserve! The law did not say, 25 years to life imprisonment, it says "DEATH"! They have been charged with the crime and must be sentenced accordingly.

Pursuant to 12 United States Code, (hereafter, U.S.C.) Sections 341, Paragraph 8: 12 USC 104, 109, 123, and 110. Federal Reserve Notes must express ". . . upon their face that they are secured by United States Bonds deposited with the Treasurer of the United States, by the written or engraved signatures of the Treasurer and Register, and by the imprint of the seal of the Treasury; and shall also express upon their face the promise of the association receiving the same to pay on demand, attested by the written or engraved signatures of the president or vice president and cashier; and other such statements and in such form as the Sec. of Treasury directs."

Do the Federal Reserve Notes in your pocket meet these requirements? Just don't sit there, take one out and see for yourself.

18 USC 334 makes it a "FELONY" to deliver and put in circulation any Federal Reserve Notes in violation of the above statues in Title 12. See 18 USC Sections 1, (Offenses classified); Sec. 2. (Principals); Sec. 3. (Accessory after the fact); Sec. 4. (Misprision of felony); Sec. 371. (Conspiracy); Sec. 1341. (Frauds and swindles); Sec. 1343 (Fraud by wire;) and most of all 18 USC Sec. 1960 to 1965. (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) Aren't all banks guilty of the above?

* Counterfeiter - "One who unlawfully makes base coin in imitation of the true metal, or forges false currency, or any instrument of writing bearing a likeness and similarity to that which is lawful and genuine, with an intention of deceiving and imposing another."

* Counterfeit coin - "Coin not genuine, but resembling or apparently intended to resemble or pass for genuine coin, including genuine coin prepared or altered so as to resemble or pass for a coin of a higher denomination."

* Lawful Money - "Money which is legal tender in payments of debt. See Legal Tender."

* Black's Law Dictionary, 6th Edition

Section 5103 of 31 USC, defines legal tender as, "United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal Reserve Banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues. Foreign gold and silver coins are not tender for debts."

Isn't it amazing how they have changed the definition of lawful money (gold and silver), to mean legal plunder (tender)?

The thieves have gone to far with their TREASONOUS laws. They are forcing us to use their counterfeit "DEBT" Notes and outlawing foreign gold and silver coins for payment of debt. What would you rather have, an ounce of foreign gold or their "FIAT" money? The simple law of math proves that we cannot finance ourselves out of debt by going into debt. Yet, our political paid "TRAITORS" (leaders) keep playing right into their hands. It is time the ALMIGHTY MASS puts a stop to this MADNESS!

Lincoln proclaimed, "To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical . . . The government should create, issue and circulate all the money and currency, needed to satisfy the spending power of the government and the buying power of the consumer. The privilege of creating and issuing money is not only the supreme prerogative of government, but it is the governments greatest opportunity . . . The people can and will be furnished with a currency as safe as their own government. Money will cease to be the master and become the servant of humanity . . . We gave the people of this Republic the greatest blessing they ever had - their own paper money to pay their own debts . . . Democracy will rise superior to the money power."

The MONEY-CHANGERS realized the loss they would incur if, their paper-money was replaced with "government paper-money". As a result, this is what they had to say about President Lincoln's issuance of a national paper currency, sometimes referred to as "Greenbacks." "If that mischievous financial policy, which had its origins in the North America Republic during the late war [Civil War] in that country, should become indurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own paper money without cost. It will have ALL the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous beyond precedent in the history of the civilized governments of the world. That government must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe." (London Times 1863)

Bismark, Chancellor of Germany, made the following statement regarding the death of Lincoln: "The death of Lincoln was a disaster for Christendom. There was no man in the United States great enough to wear his boots, and [the MONEY-CHANGERS] went anew to grab the riches of the world. I fear that foreign bankers with their craftiness and tortuous tricks will entirely control the exuberant riches of America, and use it to systematically corrupt modern civilization. They will not hesitate to plunge the whole Christendom into wars and chaos in order that the earth should become their inheritance."

If you think our Constitution is antiquated, and Gold and Silver will not work, then how do you explain the Island of Guernsey, located of the English Channel? Guernsey has followed our constitutional taxing system along with our constitutional honest money - no interest banking procedures, backed by Gold and Silver for over 175 years. Today, Guernsey enjoys a high standard of living, no unemployment, a modern infrastructure and no government debt. Guernsey is proof that it can and does work.

WAKE-UP AMERICA and take a closer look at what happened to some of those out spoken critics of the Federal Reserve. Lincoln was assassinated by Booth! Kennedy was (supposedly) assassinated by Oswald! Garfield was assassinated by Guiteau! Mckinley was assassinated by Czolgosz! After 3 attempts on his life, McFadden was found dead in his ransacked office! His autopsy shows he died of natural causes. Assassination attempts were made on the lives of Presidents Jackson and Reagan! Lindbergh's grandson was kidnaped! Justice of the Peace Mahoney died mysteriously within months after the bank lost its case and that historical decision was handed down. The defendant, Jerome Daly, an Attorney, was later disbarred from the Bar Association and became a political prisoner. Justice of the Peace Bill Drexler was also disbarred and he too became a political prisoner. Will this ADVERSARY stop at nothing? Or, is it just a coincidence that those who were strong critics of the MONEY-CHANGERS and supporters of the Constitution were targeted for assassination or became political prisoners?

"How long will they kill our prophets, while we stand aside and look. Some say it's just a part of it, we've got to fulfill the book." Bob Marley (another victim of assassination.)

They have been charged with the crimes against our nation. If our elected representatives will not do anything to stop this atrocity, then We The People must take action.

Or are we going to sit around like the 3 monkeys, "Hearing no evil! Seeing no evil! Not speaking of the evil!" If so, evil will prevail. If, you do not want to do something about these truths, then listen to the politicians. They will tell you all the lies you want to hear. Their rhetoric will keep you dreaming the American dream. What action you, as a citizen can take will be discussed later.


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>> DECLARATION ON THE RIGHTS
>> OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLES
>> Indigenous Peoples Caucus
>>
>> Australian Prime Minister lobbied for Canada to oppose Indigenous
>> Rights...
>>
>> The Australian Prime Minister did lobby the newly-elected Canadian
>> Government to switch its position and vote against the Declaration
>> on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
>>
>> The Governments of Australia and New Zealand have both introduced
>> major legislation in recent years to steal Indigenous lands and
>> resources. The UN Committee on the Elimination of Racial
>> Discrimination has condemned Australia and New Zealand for being in
>> breach of the International Convention against racism.
>>
>> These two governments have been successful in lobbying Canada to
>> vote against the adoption of the Declaration. For Canada, it has
>> been a major reversal of its policies of support for Indigenous
>> rights. The Government of Canada is being heavily criticised by the
>> Indigenous Peoples for betraying its role as a human rights defender
>> on the Human Rights Council. Only Canada and the Russian Federation
>> voted against the Declaration when the Declaration was formally
>> adopted by the Human Rights Council in June this year.
>>
>> Australia and New Zealand continue to agitate against the
>> Declaration in an attempt to make legitimate their own
>> discriminatory policies. They have told other member States that the
>> Declaration can be construed as supporting secession and undermining
>> the sovereignty of the States and parliaments. These outlandish
>> claims are presented as quasi-legal arguments but the international
>> law clearly does not support these positions. Only Canada was
>> prepared to abandon its human rights responsibilities to listen to
>> Australia and New Zealand.
>>
>> The Government of Australia has admitted that it used its Office of
>> Indigenous Policy (OIPC) to lobby against the Declaration and to
>> persuade New Zealand and Canada to joint forces to oppose the rights
>> of Indigenous Peoples. OIPC, which was established as the Aboriginal
>> and Torres Strait Islander Commission in Australia was abolished, is
>> actually advocating policies in Australia which go against
>> Indigenous rights. The Government of Australia is, in particular,
>> opposed to the principle of free, prior and informed consent for
>> Indigenous Peoples. The discussions in the Australian Parliament are
>> as follows.
>>
>>
>> Australian Parliament
>> Supplementary Budget Estimates
>> MONDAY, 30 OCTOBER 2006
>> CANBERRA
>>
>> Senator CHRIS EVANS-I want to ask about what involvement the
>> Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet has had in Australia's
>> positioning on the Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
>>
>> Dr Morauta-We are just trying to find out between our international
>> area and social policy who might take the question. We are still not
>> sure. The question was what role we played?
>>
>> Senator CHRIS EVANS-Yes. Foreign Affairs, I suspect, are involved,
>> but I gather the Prime Minister has had some involvement in
>> Australia's lobbying and discussions about a decision not to support
>> the Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples. I just wonder
>> what PM&C's involvement with that has been.
>>
>> Mr Borrowman-PM&C has been one of a number of departments, including
>> Foreign Affairs and Trade, as you mentioned, and the Office of
>> Indigenous Policy, that have together worked on developing the
>> Australian government's position on this question.
>>
>> Senator CHRIS EVANS-Is there an Inter Departmental Committee?
>>
>> Mr Borrowman-I would have to check the list. I am pretty certain
>> there is no IDC per se. From time to time there have been meetings,
>> though not one that I am aware of recently. There has been
>> correspondence about the matter.
>>
>> Senator CHRIS EVANS-I do not think it was on the list you gave me. I
>> thought I had done you a service and made you compile a list. Glad
>> to see you using it now. Who says I do not perform a public service.
>> So you have been briefing the Prime Minister on the matter?
>>
>> Mr Borrowman-The department has been briefing the Prime Minister,
>> yes. The international division's role is as much about policy and
>> practices in terms of international committees. The substance has
>> been much more handled by the Office of Indigenous Policy.
>>
>> Senator CHRIS EVANS-So has the Prime Minister been briefed with a
>> view to discussing it with other leaders?
>>
>> Mr Borrowman-Yes.
>>
>> Senator CHRIS EVANS-Was he involved with the decision to make a
>> joint submission with New Zealand and the US?
>>
>> Mr Borrowman-I would have to take that on notice.
>>
>> Senator CHRIS EVANS-Can you tell me whether the Prime Minister was
>> briefed on this issue prior to his recent visit to Canada?
>>
>> Mr Borrowman-Yes, he was.
>>
>> Senator CHRIS EVANS-And subsequently, Canada withdrew its support
>> for the declaration?
>>
>> Mr Borrowman-That is true. But in saying that, I would also point
>> out that the government had very recently changed in Canada. So in
>> that sense it would not be surprising that there were new policies
>> that the incoming government followed which were different from
>> those followed by the outgoing government.
>>
>> Senator CHRIS EVANS-They seem to have adopted all the other
>> indigenous policies. I notice that they actually honoured the
>> commitment to the residential schools settlement in full but they
>> did not on this issue. So the prime development of our position
>> though to oppose the declaration has been handled inside Foreign
>> Affairs?
>>
>> Mr Borrowman-I think it is a whole-of-government position. That is
>> the best answer I can give there. Yes, Foreign Affairs has a lead on
>> it because it is handled in an international forum. But, as I say,
>> the Office of Indigenous Policy Coordination has been closely
>> involved. Our position, as you know, is that these negotiations have
>> been carrying on for at least some 10 years substantively and I
>> believe 20 years procedurally and this government at least has
>> certainly expressed consistent concerns about certain aspects of the
>> draft declaration in respect of the treatment of self-determination
>> in the draft declaration.
>>
>> Senator CHRIS EVANS-I think you raised concerns with three articles,
>> but you would say at the heart of it is this question of self-
>> determination?
>>
>> Mr Borrowman-Again, I would not like to comment without informing
>> myself further about it because, as I say, it is a matter that is
>> shared among a number of areas. You give particular weight to that,
>> but certainly self-determination was one of the particular issues.
>> In the context of how it eventually panned out, there were also some
>> unusual procedural approaches adopted. There was not a consensus
>> about the final document. Nevertheless, the chair of the working
>> group, the relevant UN chairman, decided to proceed in the absence
>> of consensus, which is very unusual. That was also of concern to us.
>>
>> Senator CHRIS EVANS-So you are saying there was concern about
>> process or that helped determine the government's final position?
>>
>> Mr Borrowman-It was certainly a factor in the government's final
>> position.
>>
>> Senator CHRIS EVANS-Do you know whether you briefed the Prime
>> Minister for any discussions with the Russian officials on this
>> matter?
>>
>> Mr Borrowman-I am not aware that the Prime Minister has had any
>> discussion with Russian officials on this matter.
>>
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Drug Dog Use Questioned

Katherine Danks, news.com.au, 15th September 2006

NEW South Wales drug sniffer dogs have been been branded an expensive failure.

It follows a report showing that prosecutions result from fewer than one per cent of the searches the dogs initiate.

NSW Ombudsman Bruce Barbour today said there was little value in using dogs to screen people in public places in the hope of tracking down drug dealers.

An ombudsman report tabled in NSW Parliament today showed just 19 out of more than 10,000 people tested for drugs were prosecuted for drug supply between 2002 and 2004.

But the NSW Government says it won't pension off the sniffer dogs, insisting they contribute to breaking down the illicit drug trade.

“I think 19 people prosecuted successfully for the use or supply of drugs, that are illicit drugs, is an entirely satisfactory outcome,” Acting Police Minister David Campbell said.

The Police Powers (Drug Detection Act) came into force in February 2002 with the aim of targeting drug supply.

It gave police the power to search people without a warrant in entertainment venues and on public transport.

But today's report, released two years after it was completed, questioned whether the laws should exist at all after finding most people searched were found not to be carrying drugs.

Greens MP Lee Rhiannon said the dogs harass young people who use recreational drugs and are ineffective at catching the “Mr Bigs”.

“Today's release of the ombudsman's report, after the Greens used parliament to force the Government to release it, exposes that sniffer dogs have been an expensive failure,” Ms Rhiannon said.

Opposition police spokesman Mike Gallacher supported their use, saying it was less intrusive for police to enter a nightclub with sniffer dogs than to obtain a search warrant, shut the premises down and strip-search people inside.

The ombudsman's report showed most people found to be carrying drugs had very small amounts of cannabis for personal use.

Other drugs located during the two-year review period included ecstasy, methamphetamine, cocaine and heroin.

The majority of people successfully prosecuted for supply were carrying drugs for their friends or partners at large events, such as dance parties, the report said.

It also said there was anecdotal evidence to suggest that drug dog operations may encourage persons to “engage in risky drug taking practices”.

Mr Barbour said he had “significant reservations” about whether the use of sniffer dogs in public places will ever effectively target drug suppliers.

“Despite the best efforts of police, the evidence suggests that there is little value in trying to identify drug dealers by screening people with drug detection dogs in public places,” he said.

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the high court ruled using a sniffer dog was the same as a policeman using a torch
my reply is where does the policeman turn it on after or before he has reasonable doudt?
clearly a dog is a policeman who is using illegal and invasive search empowermeant ,training dogs to sniff for drugs and not childmolesters nor terrorists is discrimatry.
further the laws are unconstitutional ,no part of any state or federal constitution ,allows for the charging of a plant [while inground legally a fixture] to be classed as a drug ,let alone by the lie of deening by act and scedual a plant to be a salt [drug] extract
nor to charge and imprison any personal drug use ,by deeming a plant a fungable ie a tradable commodity sans proof it was for sale.
no other activity has been declared war upon ,also that war on its own citisenry is unconstitutional ,noting child molestation ,murder ,rape theft fraud and other public dangers not having war delared upon them being discrimination
that taxonomical id is inconsistant to dna ,that cannabis sativa l is only a type of cannabis ,specificlly aimed by dupont and hurst mews papers at removing a buisness competitor for fibre and rope /paper makket restriction of trade.

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#12 From: "johanhendrick" <johanhendrick@...>
Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:45 am
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i dont take offence
it is strange that you concern about me who you dont know ,yet then also see a way to kill those you dont
war is about killing.
i cant go past that ,it is written in my heart ,its what i measure every thing else against,
if i have a thought that involves killing i know it isnt from god /good.
to help you see where im deficient know i have studied and read mary baker eddie ,luther ,jehova witness ,new age and old age christ based works ,buddist ,zen ,and muslem texts ,
i have read many works of science as well as ron hubbard ,/new age ,spititiualists and islamic and jewish texts ,the dead sea scrolls ,gnostics,theoist works ,in short if it made mention of god i read it ,as well as news ,astronimy ,astrology ,divination you name it ,god is real ,and war for any reason isnt just
whats wrong with histler was an adviser who gave him a deluded vision ,to build a new holy land ,nessitating the removal of the jews [my ancestors ] to house the elites that needed to be removed  ,he is a patsy ,fed lies and deciets such as a right to maske war ,to kill most of my family ,just to have free labour and rehouse those good germains that needed the jews homes
where does hate get us
will i get my family back
death has no sting ,i was born dead ,jesus died that sin be dead in me ,in all of us if truth be realised
if hister [ok hitler] accepted christ then christ died for him too ,i dont want to be ibn the same place as him
but id jesus can forgive and god has grace how can i blame him,
im sick of the judging this man a friend that man an enimmy
all men are my teacher ,what is basic human doctrine but fear ,war ,hate ,greed kill destroy
i remove the human from that i read [no man can be perfect] that leaves the good that i feel is the perfect ,truth that god is ,god is love ,all love ,all grace the light that sustains life ,that the life see the light is good ,that the love is truth
all not of the light is of man who yet can become part of the light by ignoring the darkness in all men,
who is a jew ,who is ,e-
vil who is a yank ,a terrorist are all absurd names that divide and make doctrine of war,
i am a human
i well may be decieved and hated and despised by all who i have called my teachers ,but i will not choose between you and them ,nor me nor you ,im past where words in a book can penitrate to that in my mind i gave to god ,i try to read but what reason for reading if its a doctrine ,tell of god ,i know man ,i know man can /is /has and will be decieved as much as deciever ,if man/races were hands we would have the left hand praying to god oh god pleas kill the tight
and the right praying to god pleas kill the left
then perhaps in his wisdom god will/would remove both
and all of us would be harmless as well as disarmed
i wont change you
and im too old to change by any words ,any texts ,i have read over 19,000 ,books leafletts and papers
all words /oppinion of men
i shall not stand before my god with the blood of any of his children on my hands ,i have the blood of doves and a goat ,allready to explain ,they proved me there is no credit in killing only  blame /and great shame
i am as much a christian as a jew ,.a buddist as an islambist ,a swedenborgist and a baker ,lutherin and the rest ,i will be welcome in no place i go but i know god is every where spirit can go.
you are correct ,unteachable ,it costs nothing to know god.
again thank you for your concern.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Pugh
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:54 PM
Subject: RE: Reply to : Hi Johann

Im afraid you have a lot of misunderstandings in the Bible. You mentioned Swedenborg. That may explain a lot. Swedenborg founded a religious cult called Swedenborgianism. He and they deny essential doctrines of the Holy Bible including the deity of the Holy Spirit and has the belief all religions lead to God. You would do well to avoid his teachings. I am sorry if this is harsh, but it is true. The doctrine of Just War is as valid today as it ever was. Was it wrong to fight against Hitler? I might suggest you study basic Christian doctrine and quit trying to impose pacifism onto Christs teaching. You keep calling these extremists Gods children, but according to Scripture, only those adopted into the family of God by having a relationship with Him through faith in His Son Jesus Christ. It all comes down to having a Christian worldview. When I spoke of terrorists coming into the schools here, I did not mean Chechnyans, I meant Muslim extremists. If we (Americans) do not stand up to this threat, we will have terrorists in our schools and on our streets. If you are a Christian, then you are already in a war. It is a war between good and evil and you need to choose a side.

 

I would be happy to recommend some good books and Bible studies, but I suspect you are unteachable in this regard.

 

 

 

Steve

 

 

 


From: johanhendrick [mailto:johanhendrick@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:29 PM
To: Steve Pugh
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Subject: Reply to : Hi Johann

 

 

 

Yes this is much easier to communicate. Let me introduce myself, my name is Steve. You are correct that God is not pleased with war, but He is displeased with pacifism even more. ???

...true to a point he wishes us to have passion ,

he hates salt that has lost its flavour ,but evil has greater passion to do its vile than the good has passion to do the good..and while it is that pasivisim for the sake of the easy path is not of high worth ,he clearly wants that we not kill ,for what of that simplest and plain command-men-t //thou shalt not kill? or for why the plough shares from the tools of war.

 

the koran perhaps may advocate reasons for war  or jihad but even it ranks war jehad below the war on sickness and ignorance

but a prince of peace cannot be made a god of war but by one having a god before Him ,the true god or by virtue of unvirtue of fear and judgment

 

 

There is never a time to go to war./there is a time to give to ceaser that of ceaser //god that of god  

to make end to war and a ginning to peace

 

A few years ago Muslim extremists [[redominantly war widows]]]entered a grade school in Chechnya and [[ russian overeaction ]killed over 300 children.

 

These are the people we are fighting.??/ WE?

 

we are of duty to minester to gods children to bring home to god all gods children ,people have hates  /fear /delusion thinking

that to simply despatch evil to hell doesnt have a pay back or a cost,google in gone west ,angel fire

read what evil spirits yet can do as dead!

 

know that even evil has a room in gods house ,we know it as hell ,swedenberg  revealed even evil has an after being ,other writings confirm demons are real ,but there is the division of hell from heaven ,that those who kill cannot ever be in the same place as those they have killed

god has grace not man ,give me where the word reveals thou can/shall/must kill ,this is not in my holy texts ,

you say..

'I want them stopped before they start coming into schools in my country and start killing children here. '

 

i think this is assured ,chetsnians are about thier own buisness ,unless you are in chetsnia it is unlikly they ever will send a terrorist to any school near you

 

'he only way to stop them is to kill them.'

....if this is true then god should have sent satan

/an eye for an eye?

jesus rebutted that

what of peter cutting the ear off those solgers who came to kill our christ

did heaheal his killers ear?

did he not ask forgivness for those who strung him up to the cross ?

did he at his worst moment call the legions of williong angels down to extract vengence?

please

you cannot be>>>'I am a minister of Gods Word. '<<

and disregard that revealed by his son.

 

'here is a biblical doctrine of a Just War.'..>>

long ago rebutted as wrong

 

 

God commands us to judge good and [[from ]] evil and to fight [[[our will to do ]]]evil  where necessary.

 

Yes, God hates people dying in war, but He also hates people dying from terrorism.

 

And He hates people standing aside while these terrorists freely [[insit others to]] kill.

 

In Christ, [name or gods]

 

Steve Pugh

 

 

 


#11 From: "johanhendrick" <johanhendrick@...>
Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:33 am
Subject:: Fw: challange to the authority of the court ,coat of arms juristictional issue
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "johan" <johanhendrick@...>
> To: "johan" <johanhendrick@...>
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 9:56 PM
> Subject: Re: challange to the authority of the court ,coat of arms
> juristictional issue
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> --- In PeopleBeforeLawyers@yahoogroups.com, "johan"
> <johanhendrick@...> wrote:
> updated
>
> court tomorrow ,thanks for the advice bear
>>
>> under heraldic law i have heraldic [and indiginant totamic duty to
> the head of the deer,
>> the complete deer was ''adopted'' by the state of queensland in
> the
>> eighties ,it holds the dexter position on the state shield ,but i
> hold the patent by heraldic preceedance ,as a famil obligation ,as
> well as indiginant duty to the first people of these lands
>>
>> some time ago i tried to reclaim the head of the deer ,because of
>> govt politics
>
> they declared war on me in 1983 , by declaring cultivation of a
> plant illegal by deeming a law that turns a plant into a defacto
> drug,
> added to which they drove out our political party [hemp ,scince
> caused to be rejected for regestration federally ,further they
> rewrote the qld constitution in to an act [invalidating the
> onstitution ,and not bring the changes ,act 70 of 2002[now stuck
> into the index the dificult parts that no referndum would yet agree
> to drop]a planned ''red herring refendum to discuss the approval of
> adding sewrage water to our drinking supply was to be the de facto
> referndum cover for thier 2002 changes
> but seems now to have been dropped by a god induced nessesity for
> them to proceed before a referendum could ok it [whatever it was
> going to be[they abandoned a house by the elected  reps simply
> passimg a motion and now rule the state with only one omnipotant ex
> lawyer running one house ;running arround doing evil ,
> ie he rewrote
>> the state constitution into an act ,that he signed into law himself
>>
>> i as an elected representitive of indiginous govt [sun treaty]
> used
>> my right underheraldic law to reclain my heraldic duty to my
>> ancestoral totum ,further the state shield has a cow with horns on
>> it my heraldic duty extends to the horn [through issiah]
>> regardless the facts of the matter is that the court is too close
> to
>> the case to judge it faily  [it is biased in that the state shield
>> is the state coat of arms , but parts of it belong to me by
>> preceedant heraldic law]
>> further the constitution of the state cannot be derived from an
>> act ,they have invalidasted thier own deceits ,federal
> constitution
>> superceeds state constitution , further the suppression of the
> magna
>> carter charter by legalistic deceits and other constitutional
> issues
>> arise
>>
>> lawyers are a servant of the courts so i have only my own
> council ,i
>> face a jury [of peers] on 30 th , to whome i shall present the
> facts
>> and treason of the govt [and other facts] i have no idea but a few
>> cases in which i tested the system ,i notified the queen at chogm
>> and notified the divergent levels of courts in 3 states ,
>>
>> when i got jailed for possesion of a plant [legally a fixture ]
>> thast the police removed from the land [creating a fungable ]
> which
>> they then charged me with possessing [despite me not having legal
>> control over them at any stage ,after the court cases i will be
>> seeking to present these systemised abuses and thefts to the world
>> court for the indiginous people and the people of the plant
>>
>> there are other matters that have resulted in this prolonged abuse
>> like my teeth were vandilised ,on purpose by dentists because they
>> thought me idigenant or a drug addict , as well as tried
>> unsuccesfully to have me certified ,.
>>
>> i know its a hard ball game but i see the colusions of lawyers
> [who
>> are the majority in the state and federal govts , who yet
>> omnipotently dare to make law as well as procicute it and judge
>> it;where is the sepperation of powers?]
>>
>> well there you go im the fool and im defending my self , so i have
>> even a fool for a client [and pro bono ],so this is as good as a
>> good bye
>> any advice short of pleading guilty?
>>
>
>

#10 From: "johanhendrick" <johanhendrick@...>
Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:31 am
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dear father
it is comforting to hear that you have noted the problems caused by petro chemicals
there has long been an alternative available [its mere water ]
indeed the father revealed this solution unto men a long time ,but special intrests in petrol combustion have suppressed it for a long time,
i send the information to you today because you have seen the urgency in ending the combustion engine polutions now clearly endangering gods creation ,
you i trust will see herein a solution not as radical as banning the auto ,
the fuel cell costs pennies to make , its consists but of a few stainless steel pipes , inside each other , with the only special quality being it needs to be a nonmagnetic grade of stainless steel
it hooks on to moters simply via the tube on the inlet manifold of the car ,the only other thing that needs to be done is to advance the timming 25 degrees ,from this time the auto runs on water ,i
t is so simple [why would the father complicate it] more so ,but you have reveakled gods big stick ,now it only takes the world to know this miricle given to the simplr to confound the wise ,there is vidio on you tube showing the conversion process
the young man didnt invent it only believed others and then tried it to find it works
it is as simple as googling up ''the joe fuel cell [at you tube ] and you can see it working
i have included a site that may link up form this attatchment ,it is not practicle to loose the auto , but it is practical to convert autos to run on the fuel cell [say for a rental . with the rental going to fix /heal gods creation and feed the hungry
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                                                                        Update 11.  01-09-2003.  Alex Shiffer

                                                                                Y Factor and you.                                                               

 

Subject.

The Y factor is a name given to a force that is present in all actions and reactions involving individuals and their interaction with everything else. It is only in recent times that scientific research has given us a greater insight in this age old mystery.

Aim.

My aim is to provide the reader with an explanation for the Y factor that fits the known effects of this force, at least as I see it. I would suggest to the reader that this paper presents a plausible theory, and by comprehending what follows, the individual will better understand the age old saying that we are all part of each other. , and that there is no possible action without a reaction, be it good or bad .

Please be forewarned that some of the views in this paper are on the threshold of science, and thus contains areas that may be seen as religion or metaphysics by some. If this may offend you, read no further.

Questions.

* Some gardeners are known to have green thumbs , they could grow grass on a billiard ball. Others could kill a rock, why?
* Some people can cure others by the laying of the hands , or by prayer, or by similar non-contact means, why?
* Some people can make a device work and yet others given the same device will have no success, eg. the Joe cell, why?
* Some people can make others like them, eg. love at first sight, others are not so lucky, why?

I could give you many more question along the same vein, and I am sure that some of you have your favourite answers to the above. What follows in my attempt at clarifying some of the mystery of this little known and invisible coupling between all things.

Preamble.

Science ( from the Latin scientia knowledge or scire to know ) is aimed at discovering knowledge by using experiment, observation and deduction, to arrive at reliable explanations to the phenomena that constitutes our world.
I dont have to remind you that is a highly flawed process. For example, the best scientists in our past knew that we could not travel at speeds over 30 mph, that heavier-than-air object could not fly, that the world was flat, that the earth was the center of the Universe, and many other similar scientific truths that we now know are in error.

Science also once regarded that a piece of iron or a rock are solid.
Solid in this case meaning that the objects inside is more filled rather than empty .
I am sure that you are well aware that with modern physics the concept is that everything is moving, everything vibrates, nothing is every still and that the space between the nucleus and the encompassing electrons in each atom is vast ( relatively speaking ) and that the included space is empty .

An example to give the size of this emptiness is:
......if your fist is as big as a nucleus of one atom then the atom is as big as St.Pauls, and if it happens to be a hydrogen atom then it has a single electron flitting about like a moth in the empty cathedral, now by the dome , now by the altar......
On the atom Tom Stoppard.

Frequency.

The point being made above is that nothing is solid , and that includes you and every cell in your body.
These moths in their motion have a periodicity, and this periodicity, oscillations, vibration or waves do fall in certain defined period of time that we call frequency.
For example a slow frequency is the frequency of the 240 volt alternating current coming out of your power point.

In Australia this is 50 Hertz or 50 cycles per second. Another example of a low frequency range would be the limits of our hearing. For an adult this is from 20 cycles a second to 15,000 cycles
a second ( approx. ).

In this paper I will be talking about much higher frequency ranges. The frequency ranges of interest are in the infra red, ultra violet, x-ray, gamma ray and cosmic ray range of frequencies.

To keep this topic as simple as possible I will give the frequencies in cycles per second, but this is not normally done as the numbers are very cumbersome. Thus the infra red frequency spectrum is from 100,000,000,000 to 100, 000,000,000,000 cycles a second.

Another way of stating this is to say that the infra red spectrum range is from 10*11 up to 10*14 ( 11 zeros and 14 zeros behind the number 1 ).
So, the ultra violet range is from 10*15 up to 10*17 cycles per second ( or Hz ).
X-rays go from 10*17 up to 10*19 Hz.
Gamma rays go from 19*19 up to 10*21 Hz.
And cosmic rays range start at 10*21 Hz and nobody knows the upper limit so far.

The Y factor involves ( in my opinion ) the ultra violet up to the cosmic ray spectrum range.
This will make sense to you if you realise that the resonant frequency of bacteria and viruses are from 10*16 Hz up to 10*18 Hz.

Cancer treatment is in the range of 10*20 Hz up to 10*21 Hz, and the atom nucleus vibrates at around 10*23 Hz or cycles per second.
For people familiar with the Rife and Lakhovsky methods of treatments, you will realise that this is why the ultimate aim of the generated frequencies to aim at these spectrums on a selective basis.

Energy.

By definition it is the capacity for doing work. For this paper, the important thing is that energy can be converted from one form to another, and that the total quantity remains the same.
If we quickly refer to Einsteins theory of relativity and quote his famous formula, where E = MC*2, E is energy, M is mass ( the quantity of matter in a body as measured by its inertia ) and C is the speed of light squared.
It can be seen that with a simple rearrangement of the formula, it is clearly shows that mass ( or how solid something is ) is based on the speed of light and the energy.

For the purpose of this paper I am interested in the energy that a frequency produces. As I am talking about the Y factor, and according to all known research to date, the Y factor is a frequency ( or a range of frequencies ), and these frequencies have energy and thus the capacity of doing work.
By work I mean the transference of energy ( the Y factor ) from one system ( donor ) to another ( recipient ).

A simple example is that we radiate infra red frequencies as an energy, and this energy can be measured or felt as heat.
A similar energy transfer doing work is the sun heating up an object. In the second example, it must be appreciated that sunlight travels a vast distance trough a vacuum, thus it is not the sunlight frequency band that is hot , it is the work done by the conversion of this energy to another form.

Back to out topic. The Y factor energy is invisible, we only see the end product when it manifests its results in a system and so performs work. Thus we see the Y factor only by its effects, we do not see the cause.
Just because we cannot see or easily measure this energy form does not meant that it does not exist. For example we cannot see gravity but this force of attraction is demonstrated to us in countless ways.

Resonance.

Be definition it is the increase of the vibration of an object when it is subjected to a force that is varying at its natural frequency.
We should all be familiar with stringed musical instruments. A guitar for example can produce specific frequencies as a result of changing the length of a stretched string.
A note struck on a piano will set the same note ( wire ) into vibration on another piano. This is only true if both pianos are perfectly tuned to each other.

In other words, objects that are in resonance with each other can transfer and collect energy ( as a frequency ) and utilise this energy to do work.

The resultant work of course will depend on the design of the required devices.

An example of resonance is the security tag that can be placed inside a book.

This is a very simple resonant circuit that is normally passive, ie. there is no powers source in the book security tab, it is normally at rest and is doing no work. For the technical, it is made up of a parallel resonant circuit comprising a flat printed coil and capacitor.
However, when you go to leave the shop or library, you will approach a transmitter, a device that will interrogate the specifically tuned book tab.

This resonant frequency is pre arranged and is in tune or resonant with the security station at the exit.
Thus the transmitter sends out a frequency and the energy of this frequency will activate the book tab.

This occurs similar to the example above with the two pianos, the book tab is in resonance with the transmitter sending frequency.
This energy transfer ( or the doing of work ) is felt by the security station and appropriate circuitry trigger the alarm and the rest is history.

Another more complex example is the E-tag system used on toll roads in Australia. The transmitter interrogates ( or sends some frequencies ) to the transponder in the car.

This transponder now responds with the appropriate data. As this data is quite comprehensive, the car transponder does contain a battery, but the principle of resonance is the same.

The final example could be a mobile phone. The air waves ( radio spectrum ) have thousand upon thousands of channels of intelligent data that is used for countless purposes. Yet amongst this huge possible choice of channels, the mobile phone will only tune in and pick up the desired frequency range for the call at hand.

A miracle .

A slightly different example or resonance is for readers conversant with the New Testament, and the exploits of Jesus.
There is an story were Jesus is preaching to a huge assembly.

He is walking amongst them with his apostles, and he is being jostled and shoved around, as would be normal in such circumstances.
In this large crowd is a woman, whose faith has convinced her that if she could manage to touch the robes of Jesus she would be cured of her sickness.
She manages to touch his robes. Instantly Jesus turns around to his apostles and asks who touched me?. Of course the apostles look strangely at him, for people are touching him constantly and it would indeed seem to be an odd question.

But if we look at the story from my view point, it is easy to see that the faith of the woman tuned her ( like the book tab ) to receive the transmitting frequency of Jesus (which can be called love ) and so Jesus responded on sensing the depletion of his energy.

Please note that this process was automatic, Jesus did not consciously partake in the transfer, he only felt the resultant loss.

The rest of the crowd were not in resonance with Jesus, and so they did not receive the specific frequency ( and the associated energy ) that cured the woman.

This frequency as received by the woman had energy, and the energy could do work, and it this instance the work was the healing of the woman.

It is interesting to note that in each case of healing Jesus stated that it was the faith ( or resonance ) of the recipient that caused the healing ( or transfer of energy ).

Unlike modern new age healers Jesus never claimed any personal fame or credit for the healing. He stated that he was doing his Fathers work and that it was the faith of the recipient that was all important. To me, the Father and the Universal life force are part and parcel of each other.

Needless to say, for some readers the above is absolute rubbish, so be it.
For these readers I will quote some recent scientific research.

Recent research.

Research at the Human Energy Systems Lab. have shown that the body can spontaneously absorb and/or scatter high frequency Gamma rays and simultaneously emit high frequency X rays.
The above biblical example may be a load of rubbish for some, but here we have scientifically proven and verifiable facts.
Put in other words, the human body can act like a transponder ( a transmitter and receiver ) and the individual may be completely unaware of the fact.

Even more interesting is that this energy emission is from the heart and hand region. During times when people intentionally send energy to another person, especially a loved one, there is a detectable increase in the absorption and/or scattering of the Gamma rays and an increase in the emission of high frequency X-rays.

As Waler Russell wrote:

When we learn that Nature never takes anything which is not given, and that the cosmic law of love is based upon giving and regiving equally we shall have advanced to our spiritual goal .
I will come back to this important law shortly.

Emotions.

Following from my previous statements, it should be reasonably clear that a change of emotion would be equivalent to striking another note on the piano, or in effect changing the resultant transmission of a band of frequencies, that would react or resonate differently with the recipient, be they human or a tuned mechanical devices like the Joe cell.

Red with anger , green with envy are common descriptions of the colour ( thus frequency band ) of two emotions. It would not take much imagination to surmise that the emotions of love and hate are different.

This difference would result in differing frequencies, differing energies and so different work done by a receptive resonant device.

There is the very old experiment where you grow grains of wheat in wet cotton wool. You pray ( or wish good things ) for one group of grain and ignore the other group.

The group of grain that has the positively emotion directed at it will grow bigger than the ignored group.
Try it, it is very easy to do.
Putting it all together.

The facts.

* All things are made up of a very complex mix of frequencies and their related harmonics.

These are the elements that make up all known things.
There is nothing solid as we may imagine it, eg. by hitting a solid nail with a solid hammer.
The complex frequencies that make up the hammer and nail are moving so quickly that they create the illusion of being solid.

* All frequencies are differing forms of energies. These energies can perform work by changing states.

* A frequency can and will resonate with an object that is on the same wave length as itself. Energy will be exchanged and work will be done.

* The transfer of energy will only occur when the donor and recipient are tuned to each other, when they are in resonance.

However, non-resonant energy can be transferred by utilising brute force, just like breaking down a door instead of using the right key to enter as house.

Just like the broken door above, brute energy is usually destructive.

Brute interference from power lines, television and mobile radio transmitters will do more harm than good.

We are starting to find that these out of tune ( to Nature ) frequencies are a curse to the well being of mankind. The problem is that even with the proof staring us in the face, we still insist on destroying ourselves. 

* Emotion will change the frequency spectrum of the bodies emitted radiations, this frequency range can be for the better or worse in its interactions with the rest of the Universe.

My theory.

The life force that permeates our Universe is absorbed by all living bodies, to a varying degree. Some people ( such as healers ) can accumulate larger quantities of this force.
This force can be utilised by other in tune devices, with or without the consent of the donor.

However, some donors are conversant with the control of this force and can dispense it at will.
These people are our healers, who can heal by the laying on of hands and other non intrusive, non contact methods.

The released frequency spectrum can be altered by the emotional mindset of the donor.

Thus the recipient may or may not receive the desired frequency range, and thus the energy that is required to achieve the desired task at hand. For example, this may be an attempt to start a Joe cell or an attempt to heal somebody else.

Some donors are natural producers of these good frequencies or vibes. These are the green thumb gardeners, faith healers and similar. Others can learn how to tune their emitted frequency range, over a period of time.
Throughout recorded history Avatars have attempted to shown us by example how to achieve this task.

The great gift of an individuals free will is exactly that, each person will do what they think is best for them, and so not all people will have the same transmitted frequency spectrum, or the desire to change their present one.

In actual fact each living thing has an unique frequency emission that makes each person unique. This acts like a personalised identification number of the bearer.

If we have specific aims in life we must tune our intent, and thus the resulting actions. It is a waste of time playing a piano in a marching brass band.

Quoting Waler Russell:

Before we build the product, we must build our inner Selves up to the level of the product.

We must desire the produce. No man can produce anything greater than he, himself, is .

Summary.

I believe that the Y factor is the persons emitted frequency spectrum. The incoming life force that enters every object in the Universe is available as an inexhaustible power source, to be utilised by all living recipients.

The persons mindset will use these incoming energies to emit a spectrum of frequencies ( an thus energy ) that will react with the receptive object. The emotional state or mindset of the individual will dictate the result, reap what you sow.

In the Joe cell, the water and the construction of the cell forms a resonant ( energy absorbing ) device. Thus the cell is constantly reacting to very small frequencies at the right wave length and it is also being bombarded and thus affected by energies of very high power and at the wrong wave length.

The wave length of nearby living forms ( humans ) can and will determine if the cell will start or not, simply as the result of the average suitable energy available to it to do work.

One line summary.

The Y factor is the conversion of the life force ( Orgone if you like ) to an energy that is conducive to the operation of the Joe cell.

References.

Hutchinson Dictionary Of Science.
Russel W. The Message Of The Divine Iliad book.
Schiffer A.A. Experimenters Guide To The Joe Cell manual.
Schiffer A. A. Prayer Boosting paper.
Schwartz G. E. Ph.D. and Russek L. Dr. A joint article, extracted in part from The
Afterlife Experiments book.

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dear 
it is comforting to hear that you have noted the problems caused by petro chemicals
there has long been an alternative available [its mere water ]
indeed the father revealed this solution unto men a long time ,but special intrests in petrol combustion have suppressed it for a long time,
i send the information to you today because you have seen the urgency in ending the combustion engine polutions now clearly endangering gods creation ,
you i trust will see herein a solution not as radical as banning the auto ,
the fuel cell costs pennies to make , its consists but of a few stainless steel pipes , inside each other , with the only special quality being it needs to be a nonmagnetic grade of stainless steel
it hooks on to moters simply via the tube on the inlet manifold of the car ,the only other thing that needs to be done is to advance the timming 25 degrees ,from this time the auto runs on water ,i
t is so simple [why would the father complicate it] more so ,but you have reveakled gods big stick ,now it only takes the world to know this miricle given to the simplr to confound the wise ,there is vidio on you tube showing the conversion process
the young man didnt invent it only believed others and then tried it to find it works
it is as simple as googling up ''the joe fuel cell [at you tube ] and you can see it working
i have included a site that may link up form this attatchment ,it is not practicle to loose the auto , but it is practical to convert autos to run on the fuel cell [say for a rental . with the rental going to fix /heal gods creation and feed the hungry
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                                                                        Update 11.  01-09-2003.  Alex Shiffer

                                                                                Y Factor and you.                                                               

 

Subject.

The Y factor is a name given to a force that is present in all actions and reactions involving individuals and their interaction with everything else. It is only in recent times that scientific research has given us a greater insight in this age old mystery.

Aim.

My aim is to provide the reader with an explanation for the Y factor that fits the known effects of this force, at least as I see it. I would suggest to the reader that this paper presents a plausible theory, and by comprehending what follows, the individual will better understand the age old saying that we are all part of each other. , and that there is no possible action without a reaction, be it good or bad .

Please be forewarned that some of the views in this paper are on the threshold of science, and thus contains areas that may be seen as religion or metaphysics by some. If this may offend you, read no further.

Questions.

* Some gardeners are known to have green thumbs , they could grow grass on a billiard ball. Others could kill a rock, why?
* Some people can cure others by the laying of the hands , or by prayer, or by similar non-contact means, why?
* Some people can make a device work and yet others given the same device will have no success, eg. the Joe cell, why?
* Some people can make others like them, eg. love at first sight, others are not so lucky, why?

I could give you many more question along the same vein, and I am sure that some of you have your favourite answers to the above. What follows in my attempt at clarifying some of the mystery of this little known and invisible coupling between all things.

Preamble.

Science ( from the Latin scientia knowledge or scire to know ) is aimed at discovering knowledge by using experiment, observation and deduction, to arrive at reliable explanations to the phenomena that constitutes our world.
I dont have to remind you that is a highly flawed process. For example, the best scientists in our past knew that we could not travel at speeds over 30 mph, that heavier-than-air object could not fly, that the world was flat, that the earth was the center of the Universe, and many other similar scientific truths that we now know are in error.

Science also once regarded that a piece of iron or a rock are solid.
Solid in this case meaning that the objects inside is more filled rather than empty .
I am sure that you are well aware that with modern physics the concept is that everything is moving, everything vibrates, nothing is every still and that the space between the nucleus and the encompassing electrons in each atom is vast ( relatively speaking ) and that the included space is empty .

An example to give the size of this emptiness is:
......if your fist is as big as a nucleus of one atom then the atom is as big as St.Pauls, and if it happens to be a hydrogen atom then it has a single electron flitting about like a moth in the empty cathedral, now by the dome , now by the altar......
On the atom Tom Stoppard.

Frequency.

The point being made above is that nothing is solid , and that includes you and every cell in your body.
These moths in their motion have a periodicity, and this periodicity, oscillations, vibration or waves do fall in certain defined period of time that we call frequency.
For example a slow frequency is the frequency of the 240 volt alternating current coming out of your power point.

In Australia this is 50 Hertz or 50 cycles per second. Another example of a low frequency range would be the limits of our hearing. For an adult this is from 20 cycles a second to 15,000 cycles
a second ( approx. ).

In this paper I will be talking about much higher frequency ranges. The frequency ranges of interest are in the infra red, ultra violet, x-ray, gamma ray and cosmic ray range of frequencies.

To keep this topic as simple as possible I will give the frequencies in cycles per second, but this is not normally done as the numbers are very cumbersome. Thus the infra red frequency spectrum is from 100,000,000,000 to 100, 000,000,000,000 cycles a second.

Another way of stating this is to say that the infra red spectrum range is from 10*11 up to 10*14 ( 11 zeros and 14 zeros behind the number 1 ).
So, the ultra violet range is from 10*15 up to 10*17 cycles per second ( or Hz ).
X-rays go from 10*17 up to 10*19 Hz.
Gamma rays go from 19*19 up to 10*21 Hz.
And cosmic rays range start at 10*21 Hz and nobody knows the upper limit so far.

The Y factor involves ( in my opinion ) the ultra violet up to the cosmic ray spectrum range.
This will make sense to you if you realise that the resonant frequency of bacteria and viruses are from 10*16 Hz up to 10*18 Hz.

Cancer treatment is in the range of 10*20 Hz up to 10*21 Hz, and the atom nucleus vibrates at around 10*23 Hz or cycles per second.
For people familiar with the Rife and Lakhovsky methods of treatments, you will realise that this is why the ultimate aim of the generated frequencies to aim at these spectrums on a selective basis.

Energy.

By definition it is the capacity for doing work. For this paper, the important thing is that energy can be converted from one form to another, and that the total quantity remains the same.
If we quickly refer to Einsteins theory of relativity and quote his famous formula, where E = MC*2, E is energy, M is mass ( the quantity of matter in a body as measured by its inertia ) and C is the speed of light squared.
It can be seen that with a simple rearrangement of the formula, it is clearly shows that mass ( or how solid something is ) is based on the speed of light and the energy.

For the purpose of this paper I am interested in the energy that a frequency produces. As I am talking about the Y factor, and according to all known research to date, the Y factor is a frequency ( or a range of frequencies ), and these frequencies have energy and thus the capacity of doing work.
By work I mean the transference of energy ( the Y factor ) from one system ( donor ) to another ( recipient ).

A simple example is that we radiate infra red frequencies as an energy, and this energy can be measured or felt as heat.
A similar energy transfer doing work is the sun heating up an object. In the second example, it must be appreciated that sunlight travels a vast distance trough a vacuum, thus it is not the sunlight frequency band that is hot , it is the work done by the conversion of this energy to another form.

Back to out topic. The Y factor energy is invisible, we only see the end product when it manifests its results in a system and so performs work. Thus we see the Y factor only by its effects, we do not see the cause.
Just because we cannot see or easily measure this energy form does not meant that it does not exist. For example we cannot see gravity but this force of attraction is demonstrated to us in countless ways.

Resonance.

Be definition it is the increase of the vibration of an object when it is subjected to a force that is varying at its natural frequency.
We should all be familiar with stringed musical instruments. A guitar for example can produce specific frequencies as a result of changing the length of a stretched string.
A note struck on a piano will set the same note ( wire ) into vibration on another piano. This is only true if both pianos are perfectly tuned to each other.

In other words, objects that are in resonance with each other can transfer and collect energy ( as a frequency ) and utilise this energy to do work.

The resultant work of course will depend on the design of the required devices.

An example of resonance is the security tag that can be placed inside a book.

This is a very simple resonant circuit that is normally passive, ie. there is no powers source in the book security tab, it is normally at rest and is doing no work. For the technical, it is made up of a parallel resonant circuit comprising a flat printed coil and capacitor.
However, when you go to leave the shop or library, you will approach a transmitter, a device that will interrogate the specifically tuned book tab.

This resonant frequency is pre arranged and is in tune or resonant with the security station at the exit.
Thus the transmitter sends out a frequency and the energy of this frequency will activate the book tab.

This occurs similar to the example above with the two pianos, the book tab is in resonance with the transmitter sending frequency.
This energy transfer ( or the doing of work ) is felt by the security station and appropriate circuitry trigger the alarm and the rest is history.

Another more complex example is the E-tag system used on toll roads in Australia. The transmitter interrogates ( or sends some frequencies ) to the transponder in the car.

This transponder now responds with the appropriate data. As this data is quite comprehensive, the car transponder does contain a battery, but the principle of resonance is the same.

The final example could be a mobile phone. The air waves ( radio spectrum ) have thousand upon thousands of channels of intelligent data that is used for countless purposes. Yet amongst this huge possible choice of channels, the mobile phone will only tune in and pick up the desired frequency range for the call at hand.

A miracle .

A slightly different example or resonance is for readers conversant with the New Testament, and the exploits of Jesus.
There is an story were Jesus is preaching to a huge assembly.

He is walking amongst them with his apostles, and he is being jostled and shoved around, as would be normal in such circumstances.
In this large crowd is a woman, whose faith has convinced her that if she could manage to touch the robes of Jesus she would be cured of her sickness.
She manages to touch his robes. Instantly Jesus turns around to his apostles and asks who touched me?. Of course the apostles look strangely at him, for people are touching him constantly and it would indeed seem to be an odd question.

But if we look at the story from my view point, it is easy to see that the faith of the woman tuned her ( like the book tab ) to receive the transmitting frequency of Jesus (which can be called love ) and so Jesus responded on sensing the depletion of his energy.

Please note that this process was automatic, Jesus did not consciously partake in the transfer, he only felt the resultant loss.

The rest of the crowd were not in resonance with Jesus, and so they did not receive the specific frequency ( and the associated energy ) that cured the woman.

This frequency as received by the woman had energy, and the energy could do work, and it this instance the work was the healing of the woman.

It is interesting to note that in each case of healing Jesus stated that it was the faith ( or resonance ) of the recipient that caused the healing ( or transfer of energy ).

Unlike modern new age healers Jesus never claimed any personal fame or credit for the healing. He stated that he was doing his Fathers work and that it was the faith of the recipient that was all important. To me, the Father and the Universal life force are part and parcel of each other.

Needless to say, for some readers the above is absolute rubbish, so be it.
For these readers I will quote some recent scientific research.

Recent research.

Research at the Human Energy Systems Lab. have shown that the body can spontaneously absorb and/or scatter high frequency Gamma rays and simultaneously emit high frequency X rays.
The above biblical example may be a load of rubbish for some, but here we have scientifically proven and verifiable facts.
Put in other words, the human body can act like a transponder ( a transmitter and receiver ) and the individual may be completely unaware of the fact.

Even more interesting is that this energy emission is from the heart and hand region. During times when people intentionally send energy to another person, especially a loved one, there is a detectable increase in the absorption and/or scattering of the Gamma rays and an increase in the emission of high frequency X-rays.

As Waler Russell wrote:

When we learn that Nature never takes anything which is not given, and that the cosmic law of love is based upon giving and regiving equally we shall have advanced to our spiritual goal .
I will come back to this important law shortly.

Emotions.

Following from my previous statements, it should be reasonably clear that a change of emotion would be equivalent to striking another note on the piano, or in effect changing the resultant transmission of a band of frequencies, that would react or resonate differently with the recipient, be they human or a tuned mechanical devices like the Joe cell.

Red with anger , green with envy are common descriptions of the colour ( thus frequency band ) of two emotions. It would not take much imagination to surmise that the emotions of love and hate are different.

This difference would result in differing frequencies, differing energies and so different work done by a receptive resonant device.

There is the very old experiment where you grow grains of wheat in wet cotton wool. You pray ( or wish good things ) for one group of grain and ignore the other group.

The group of grain that has the positively emotion directed at it will grow bigger than the ignored group.
Try it, it is very easy to do.
Putting it all together.

The facts.

* All things are made up of a very complex mix of frequencies and their related harmonics.

These are the elements that make up all known things.
There is nothing solid as we may imagine it, eg. by hitting a solid nail with a solid hammer.
The complex frequencies that make up the hammer and nail are moving so quickly that they create the illusion of being solid.

* All frequencies are differing forms of energies. These energies can perform work by changing states.

* A frequency can and will resonate with an object that is on the same wave length as itself. Energy will be exchanged and work will be done.

* The transfer of energy will only occur when the donor and recipient are tuned to each other, when they are in resonance.

However, non-resonant energy can be transferred by utilising brute force, just like breaking down a door instead of using the right key to enter as house.

Just like the broken door above, brute energy is usually destructive.

Brute interference from power lines, television and mobile radio transmitters will do more harm than good.

We are starting to find that these out of tune ( to Nature ) frequencies are a curse to the well being of mankind. The problem is that even with the proof staring us in the face, we still insist on destroying ourselves. 

* Emotion will change the frequency spectrum of the bodies emitted radiations, this frequency range can be for the better or worse in its interactions with the rest of the Universe.

My theory.

The life force that permeates our Universe is absorbed by all living bodies, to a varying degree. Some people ( such as healers ) can accumulate larger quantities of this force.
This force can be utilised by other in tune devices, with or without the consent of the donor.

However, some donors are conversant with the control of this force and can dispense it at will.
These people are our healers, who can heal by the laying on of hands and other non intrusive, non contact methods.

The released frequency spectrum can be altered by the emotional mindset of the donor.

Thus the recipient may or may not receive the desired frequency range, and thus the energy that is required to achieve the desired task at hand. For example, this may be an attempt to start a Joe cell or an attempt to heal somebody else.

Some donors are natural producers of these good frequencies or vibes. These are the green thumb gardeners, faith healers and similar. Others can learn how to tune their emitted frequency range, over a period of time.
Throughout recorded history Avatars have attempted to shown us by example how to achieve this task.

The great gift of an individuals free will is exactly that, each person will do what they think is best for them, and so not all people will have the same transmitted frequency spectrum, or the desire to change their present one.

In actual fact each living thing has an unique frequency emission that makes each person unique. This acts like a personalised identification number of the bearer.

If we have specific aims in life we must tune our intent, and thus the resulting actions. It is a waste of time playing a piano in a marching brass band.

Quoting Waler Russell:

Before we build the product, we must build our inner Selves up to the level of the product.

We must desire the produce. No man can produce anything greater than he, himself, is .

Summary.

I believe that the Y factor is the persons emitted frequency spectrum. The incoming life force that enters every object in the Universe is available as an inexhaustible power source, to be utilised by all living recipients.

The persons mindset will use these incoming energies to emit a spectrum of frequencies ( an thus energy ) that will react with the receptive object. The emotional state or mindset of the individual will dictate the result, reap what you sow.

In the Joe cell, the water and the construction of the cell forms a resonant ( energy absorbing ) device. Thus the cell is constantly reacting to very small frequencies at the right wave length and it is also being bombarded and thus affected by energies of very high power and at the wrong wave length.

The wave length of nearby living forms ( humans ) can and will determine if the cell will start or not, simply as the result of the average suitable energy available to it to do work.

One line summary.

The Y factor is the conversion of the life force ( Orgone if you like ) to an energy that is conducive to the operation of the Joe cell.

References.

Hutchinson Dictionary Of Science.
Russel W. The Message Of The Divine Iliad book.
Schiffer A.A. Experimenters Guide To The Joe Cell manual.
Schiffer A. A. Prayer Boosting paper.
Schwartz G. E. Ph.D. and Russek L. Dr. A joint article, extracted in part from The
Afterlife Experiments book.

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#7 From: "johanhendrick" <johanhendrick@...>
Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:37 am
Subject:: Fw: clean coal farce , stuff em expose them
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clearly they are on johns side
hit them with a big stick
reveal the lie of single use air
geo sequestation is use the air once then bury it for ever, but wait how much can we pump into the ground
the atmophere cant renew itself , pumping it into ther ground is not such a good idea ,what will we breath?
 
you can see they are on johns side slowly bleeding your margin
single use air is crazy ,give them a wake up call , come out against the insanity of single use air ,alternatives are the only way
joe fuel cell for auto ,solar heating for hot water ,we have a limited ammount of air in our atmoshere , you cant win afainst the coal lobby , geo sequestration is not practicle
mars has no air , we are fast heading there with johns omnipotent ptriarchal thinking even nucl;ear thats as old as john , its not new thinking
your on a sdlow bleed john is setting big buisness coal , and doing as he did in tassie all over again
you have to rebut his thinking
turnbull was floundering when he got pushed push him some more
he is the grand plan to replace john , thats why he has such important current event type potrt folio , the more you focus on gren the more important the fool becomes , but he isnt gren , just as tuckey was the minister for forrestry , recall his joke , they just arnt getting it
i feel all of our leaders arnt getting it
were sick of the lies , reveal how john passed the law to let public servants and polititions lie ,it seems so few know ,you gotta hard press [gloves off ]

#6 From: "johanhendrick" <johanhendrick@...>
Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:35 am
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no0 doudt you will be checking to see if  his promises so far have been funded ,ipswich by pass , the pipe line ,the 10 billion for bying the states water ,the list must be rather extensive but
recall downer will be the new finances minester under costello ,john wont be serving his full term ,there is so much policy you havnt revealed
john has been politicing as if the election has been called ,but you know he is sowing promises like confetti, i note many now are ten year promises ,
have you seen how much unclaimed stuff [money]is held at the fed ,i was shocked how much unused aborigolal fundings for egsample
what obout some more tax deductions for work related expenses ,perhaps a relocation tax deductability for moving closer top work ,ie to make the state fees tax deductable for those moving closer to work or public transport
what im expecting is more of a future vision ,john still sets too much of the adgenda ,you need to bring him onto new ground , to get him  out of his confort zone
 
he has big buisnes in his pocket because he is in power ,he dosnt have to make shaded threats he is in power here and now ,he calls on you to explain knowing he has set up someone to attack
you have to create a vision , flesh it out ,tax deductability for health /work /education  all expemses incured in getting your wage
think of small scale things that tax paying house holders can achieve with govt help
question govt policy that allows govt and its servants to lie , have publiuc honest service , not the public run arround
where has john been hiding all the prtro tax dollars hes using to build the ''better'' roads ''sooner''

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like to thank bear for his great vidio ,it rounded off my case ,
its settled with a good behaviour bond 200 for 12 mths
when i got to court today they had dropped the charge to possesing a
hatchett to commit a crime [apparently a minor case i cant have
heard by a jury]
the state [court ] would have not been able to judge this as it was
a matter of heraldic preceedance ,i have been the elder of the head
of the deer and the horn of the ox ,preceeding the states adoption
of them as symbols of the state shield
eldres had advised that an offer would be made thus i accepted it ,
i feel weak accepting the deal ,but no help was forth comming
i made my point and will rest content that i did what i needed to do
for my family homour ,
for the sovereign people of these southern lands , as well as for
the hemp party [specificlly the 43,000 children crimminalised by a
biased drug law in this state every year
as per bears vidio i sought comfort in the father ,and he
comfortedd , praise be to god ,who softened the hearts of the state
oppressors ,i had thought to go to mardi grass at nimbin this
weekend but cant face up to the ''activists '' who still deney that
a plant [in the ground] is a legal fixture by law ,that police who
remove it create a fungable , that the fungable [murderd plant] was
never in my possesion ,but that is my next case
at that case i am likely to intrioduce the case i wasnt able to
place before a jury of my peers [this time] change the law [the law
is the crime
im geting self recrimination now about giving up
i cant see this as a win ,
i just got sick of doing it by my self [even with gods bountifull
help] not sure if it was /is ego , but its over [hate lawyers who
become polititions]they know what they do
but that lawyer that became judge was fair and informative ,i have
the greatesty respect for the judges i have faced , juries are
picked to be yes men ,but they are my peers , they just dont know im
doing ''it'' for them too
a hury will in time hear
so the quitter has left the building
peace be upon you all [not you political party liers]you colude to
decieve , declaring war upon your own citizenry ,criminalising the
children of the plant by lie and colusion
may god have mercy on your aarrr sss souls


#4 From: "johanhendrick" <johanhendrick@...>
Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:30 am
Subject:: Fw: nuclear get to the core of the issue
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Subject: nuclear get to the core of the issue

its a wedge issue ,look at the timming [point out the timming]
john  has efectivly formed a new party , he gets to advertise it with govt funds ,he gets to be able to use it to divide  ,to pretend it solves global warming
its a cure all pill to neutralise labour
its perfect timming
it deserves its own debate yet it highjacks many other debates
to day when you are syupposed to be talking about your new plan he upstages you ,scoops the pool ,you dont get to talk about water , not really debate global warming , not debate nuclear , nor even work con-tracts  ,not education , not dentistry , health nor drugs its quickly move on follow his lead ,because john leads us by the nose , no time to think he has got another red herring
its his mo and nothing you can do in a 30 second news grab ,need a radical move ,hold a conferance each weekend to discuss each issue sepperatly in its own time
begin next weekend with alternative energy [alternative non nuclear options [small scale , decentralised , roof top stuff
ask why we need to debate this nuclear issue in a few mounths when it would take years to plan it , let alone build even one ,letalone get evenone running
timming isc every thing this will reveal your metal and we still dont know where you stand on other things

#3 From: "johanhendrick" <johanhendrick@...>
Date: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:11 pm
Subject:: antigravity[free energy]
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Hi,

Thank you for your interest. If you want to receive bulletins hot off the press, please send an email to DrTM@... with Subscribe as the Subject.

For the moment you can learn more about the technology and see some of the major links at
http://pesn.com//2007/02/21/9500458_Searl_demo_video/

We are also using the following site to summarise comments on the videos.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Talk:Directory:Searl_Effect_Generator_%28SEG%29

For those wanting even more information, a search on any main search engine for key words/phrases Searl Effect Generator - SEG - Professor John Searl - John Searl will provide most researchers with more information than can be read and digested in a month. Professor John Searl is one of the most discussed inventors on the Internet.

In addition to www.searlsolution.com another site is has been set up to provide more in depth detail on the technology and can be seen at www.swallowcommand.com . This site will correct the inaccuracies that have inevitably crept into the journalise covering the work since its inception in the 60s.

The following is a link to an interview with Tim Ventura of American Antigravity which went live on the 20th March http://www.americanantigravity.com/documents/Terry-Moore-Interview.pdf

Sincerely,

Dr Terry Moore


#2 From: "johanhendrick" <johanhendrick@...>
Date: Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:27 am
Subject:: cut and paste top post [spread the word]it fits youtube comments
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sicko suppression?
sicko suppression? Mark H. Rachesky, M.D.the founder and president of MHR Fund Management LLC purchased 33.4 percent of Lions Gate stock.
 
(along with Weinstein Co.),distributing Sicko, had planned to release the film in over 1,600 theaters across the U.S inJune,However, one week prior to the release the number was reduced to 400
 
Racheskys stock purchase was made for controlling interests in Lions Gate, a shareholder can maintain control with just 33.4 percent of shares
 
Rachesky is involved with a number of health care companies who stand to be impacted by Moores film
Rachesky is: Keryx Biopharmaceuticals, Inc.
NovaDel Pharma, Inc
Medical Nutrition USA, Inc
Neose Technologies, Inc.
Emisphere Technologies, Inc

Sicko examines the financial and medical struggles of Americans to get proper health care and chronicles the health experience of a group of World Trade Center rescue workers

 
One week before Michael Moores hotly debated documentary Sicko was scheduled to open, Mark H. Rachesky, M.D. -- the founder and president of MHR Fund Management LLC -- purchased 33.4 percent (over 40 million shares) of Lions Gate stock.

Lions Gate (along with Weinstein Co.), the company distributing Sicko, had planned to release the film in over 1,600 theaters across the United States in June 2007. However, one week prior to the release (the same week that Rachesky made his purchase), the number was reduced to 400 theaters.

While this could be mere coincidence, some are questioning whether Racheskys stock purchase was made for controlling interests in Lions Gate. Typically, for a shareholder to gain major influence on a company, he or she would need to purchase at least 51 percent of the shares.
However, in certain instances an individual can maintain control with just 33.4 percent of shares which is the exact amount that Rachesky purchased.

Further, Rachesky is involved with a number of health care companies who stand to be impacted by Moores provocative film. Rachesky is:
  • On the Board of Directors of Keryx Biopharmaceuticals, Inc.
  • An investment broker for NovaDel Pharma, Inc.
  • The beneficial owner of Medical Nutrition USA, Inc.
  • The Director of Neose Technologies, Inc., a clinical-stage biopharmaceutical company
  • An investor in Emisphere Technologies, Inc., another biopharmaceutical company
Sicko examines the financial and medical struggles of Americans to get proper health care, and chronicles the experience of a group of World Trade Center rescue workers who travel to Cuba to get medical care, for free.
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Message:
Thank you for that information. I am going to save this message. I live in PA and it is still not being shown in any of the theaters. There was one in Doylestown, PA which is about an hour from me. That really explains it. When I asked the manager of one of the theaters, he told me that Weinstein released about 400 to movie theaters.

He said that would make people want to see it more. Obviously, that isn't the reason because it is still not being shown and it has been several months. I will make a video about this.

Cindy


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#1 From: "johanhendrick" <johanhendrick@...>
Date: Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:33 pm
Subject:: test mailing ,observing the beast
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its funny to see the neo con beast in action live time
noting the multiple posters
and those trying to get thier blurb to push other blurbs from the front page

its basic neo[new] con/mossad teqniques[keep the front [page full of fast moving nonsense

by thier multi posts will we know them
the people of the lampstand were killed in the gas chambers by capo's, sellouts serving the natzi adenda
helping the natzi get its homeland ,now under the banner of zion, it looks as if the neo con has suc-ceeded ,.
will the reiche stand alone ,or will big brother keep supporting it with more 'aid' 1.3 trillion dollars us so far

via the star, zionista, mossad is ss,
 
the propaganda has subverted love and service to god, to selfserving a homeland of neo con elite
 
under the worst of appartheid ,and communal deceptions[aimed solely at subverting life and perpetuating the armogeddon senario

[god gives life to dust] gives dust to live]
all life lives because god sustains and creates life to live, we live because god lives [in real time [now] god is ever in the living real time moment [now]

satan will turn all life to dust ,via the armygeddon senario, god gives life ;satan would kill all god gave to live
any death blasphemes god
the one god , eternal and omnipresent ,loving ,living god of grace
we are all children of the one living loving god
who did god not give to live?
who is not a child of god?


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