my female rat just recently gave birth and the male rat ate the
kittens and i dont know why? any ideas or info so it dosent happen
again will be appreciated. thanks
Hi All,
My offer to adopt a pair of buns in Sydney is now closed. I now share
my place with 2 adult rescue buns that came to me from a shelter in
the inner west.
xx
I apologize for the cross-post but I can use the help of rescues and breeders to
finish my listings of resources for Rat Lovers United. Going through the
previous rescue links in the group i have found not all are current anymore and
deleted quite a bit. I would like to make it easy for our members and future
members to have another source (in addition to the other rat and rodent lists)
to have access to rescue and adoption websites or links.
This would not only make it easier for the rescues and ratteries to help relieve
them of their animals but the goal is to bring rats and people together in a
stable home environment.
Although RLU is predominantly U.S. Rescues and ratteries from overseas is
welcome as we are trying establish a world wide rescue / or rattery promotion
connection. (who knows maybe in 10 years eh? Gotta start somewhere) It will take
a long time to establish something like this and I understand that. I am really
trying to dedicate more time to the group to help this now that school is pretty
much over.
Please email OFFLIST as to avoid cluttering up groups with this information.
What is needed is your rescue / rattery location and contact information with
website address.
Also if you happen to know of any Rat Associations dedicated to promotion and
education (especially overseas is needed if there are any) that would be
appreciated as well. (If anyone happens to know of the one for Illinois that
would personally help me as I accidently deleted that site and I need that one!
Its something like NHRI or something)
Please keep this rat/rodent related only. RLU is a list dedicated to pet rats.
Thanks so much in advance to all who help in
this,
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Hi rat lovers, if you would like to have a look at some of my new
pic's. Go into the mattieoconnor photo files missy my darling thing
just had her 2nd litter of 15.half an hour ago, rat's and mice usally
give bith late at night. she let me watch her too. the last time i
watched her give birth she had eatten half the little from thinking i
was indangering the litter.also if you would like to chat feel free
to chat mattiecakes3482@...
Unfortunately a lot of the bunnies that leave "to go to good homes"
very soon become abandoned and end up set loose to fend for
themselves, or if they are lucky, in shelters where they are more
often than not euthanased as the shelter has no room for them with
all the dogs and cats they have. This is a very high trend as
rabbits tend to appeal to children, who beg and plead with their
parents to have the bunny, only to lose interest as soon as they are
no longer cute and little, or when they reach puberty and their
behaviour is no longer nice.
If you do enjoy breeding your rabbits, then I would appeal with you
to at least educate the people whom you give the baby rabbits to.
Advise them to have the bunny desexed (at a normal cost of $100+,
people tend to think rabbits are cheap pets and again that is another
reason they are then turned loose). A desexed rabbit is a much better
pet for a child, and through education we can be sure to pave the way
for a better tomorrow for the bunnies of the world....
Liz 'n Lily-Bunny, desexed last week and already a much calmer little
girl :)
--- In AMRIS_rodents_and_rabbits@..., "Joelle"
<jmaybe@b...> wrote:
> how do they get put to sleep when they go to a loving bloody home..
so that family can enjoy a rabbit .. if everyone thought like you
there would be no rabbits to enjoy
> ------------------------------
>
> As any person who cares about animal welfare knows, there is no
danger of a rabbit shortage any time soon. Irresponsible and selfish
people will not be disuaded from breeding animals, so responsible and
caring people should refrain from adding to the problem. Where do you
think that the animals in shelters come from?
> Of course baby rabbits are lovely, but perhaps you could now teach
your children about the joy of saving a life. You could teach them
that animals are not commodities for your amusement but living
creatures who deserve respect and kindness.
> J
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Hi
I am in S.A and currently have two young rabbits available for
adoption.
If anyone Adelaide list-ers are interested, please let me know.
The rabbits are agouti coloured, and are friendly.
The mother is booked in to be spayed on Friday, so will have no more
rescue rabbits to re-home once the remaining two babies are gone.
I can post a pic if anyone wants to see what they look like.
I only want these buns to go to good homes with rabbit owners who
will desex,vaccinate and feed and house the rabbits properly.
thanks
Well at least do some research into the rates of uterine cancer in unspayed
females. Some studies put the figure as high as 85% by the age of 3.
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their cages are clean they have free time in the garden they get the best foods
the most love,, i know they love me too by there warmth and smootchiness,, so
just do not bother
----- Original Message -----
From: Joelle
To: AMRIS_rodents_and_rabbits@...
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: AMRIS Rodents & Rabbits Rabbit Breeding
how do they get put to sleep when they go to a loving bloody home.. so that
family can enjoy a rabbit .. if everyone thought like you there would be no
rabbits to enjoy
------------------------------
As any person who cares about animal welfare knows, there is no danger of a
rabbit shortage any time soon. Irresponsible and selfish people will not be
disuaded from breeding animals, so responsible and caring people should refrain
from adding to the problem. Where do you think that the animals in shelters come
from?
Of course baby rabbits are lovely, but perhaps you could now teach your
children about the joy of saving a life. You could teach them that animals are
not commodities for your amusement but living creatures who deserve respect and
kindness.
J
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Look i love my animals and they have a fantastic home,, i am not an iresponsable
pet owner,, not by all means,, i love her babies,, they go to good homes,, i
grabbed a rabbit fromt he shelter for christ sake,, look do not respnd to me no
more your arogance and rudness over my love for my pets ,, i do not wish to be
part of your crap,,
thank you
good bye
----- Original Message -----
From: Joelle
To: AMRIS_rodents_and_rabbits@...
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: AMRIS Rodents & Rabbits Rabbit Breeding
how do they get put to sleep when they go to a loving bloody home.. so that
family can enjoy a rabbit .. if everyone thought like you there would be no
rabbits to enjoy
------------------------------
As any person who cares about animal welfare knows, there is no danger of a
rabbit shortage any time soon. Irresponsible and selfish people will not be
disuaded from breeding animals, so responsible and caring people should refrain
from adding to the problem. Where do you think that the animals in shelters come
from?
Of course baby rabbits are lovely, but perhaps you could now teach your
children about the joy of saving a life. You could teach them that animals are
not commodities for your amusement but living creatures who deserve respect and
kindness.
J
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how do they get put to sleep when they go to a loving bloody home.. so that
family can enjoy a rabbit .. if everyone thought like you there would be no
rabbits to enjoy
------------------------------
As any person who cares about animal welfare knows, there is no danger of a
rabbit shortage any time soon. Irresponsible and selfish people will not be
disuaded from breeding animals, so responsible and caring people should refrain
from adding to the problem. Where do you think that the animals in shelters come
from?
Of course baby rabbits are lovely, but perhaps you could now teach your children
about the joy of saving a life. You could teach them that animals are not
commodities for your amusement but living creatures who deserve respect and
kindness.
J
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how do they get put to sleep when they go to a loving bloody home.. so that
family can enjoy a rabbit .. if everyone thought like you there would be no
rabbits to enjoy
----- Original Message -----
From: Joelle
To: AMRIS_rodents_and_rabbits@...
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: AMRIS Rodents & Rabbits Rabbit Breeding
having seen all the unwanted animals at the shelter, how can you justify
breeding more? Did you know that for undesexed females, the risk of uterine
cancer has been placed as high as 85% by the age of 3 years?
-----------------------------
so i take it u have a prob with me breeding my rabbit,, i do it for pleasure
and for my children to see the joy of young rabbits,,they go to good homes,, i
advertise them and they tend to go to families
-----------------------------
Yes, I do have a problem with it, for the reasons already stated - you do it
for 'pleasure' - I think that is really selfish. People like you are a big part
of the reason that thousands of healthy animals are put to sleep every year.
Joelle
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http://www.rabbit.org/
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Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: AMRIS Rodents & Rabbits Rabbit Breeding
what is the website name
Joelle <jmaybe@...> wrote:
i need to know information about a white new zealand rabbit
Look up the house rabbit society website; there is lots of good information on
there.
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having seen all the unwanted animals at the shelter, how can you justify
breeding more? Did you know that for undesexed females, the risk of uterine
cancer has been placed as high as 85% by the age of 3 years?
-----------------------------
so i take it u have a prob with me breeding my rabbit,, i do it for pleasure and
for my children to see the joy of young rabbits,,they go to good homes,, i
advertise them and they tend to go to families
-----------------------------
Yes, I do have a problem with it, for the reasons already stated - you do it for
'pleasure' - I think that is really selfish. People like you are a big part of
the reason that thousands of healthy animals are put to sleep every year.
Joelle
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what is the website name
Joelle <jmaybe@...> wrote:
i need to know information about a white new zealand rabbit
Look up the house rabbit society website; there is lots of good information on
there.
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i need to know information about a white new zealand rabbit
Look up the house rabbit society website; there is lots of good information on
there.
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so i take it u have a prob with me breeding my rabbit,, i do it for pleasure and
for my children to see the joy of young rabbits,,they go to good homes,, i
advertise them and they tend to go to families
----- Original Message -----
From: Joelle
To: AMRIS_rodents_and_rabbits@...
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: AMRIS Rodents & Rabbits Rabbit Breeding
i had a mle for bout 5 years then got a female from the shelter,, and they
have had 3 litters since,,
I am really interested to know why you want to breed them.
What do you do with all the babies, how do you find them good homes? You say
you got your female from the shelter - what shelter doesn't desex them first?
And having seen all the unwanted animals at the shelter, how can you justify
breeding more? Did you know that for undesexed females, the risk of uterine
cancer has been placed as high as 85% by the age of 3 years?
Joelle
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i have 4 adult rabbits 1 part angora 1 miniture and two just pet rabbits
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Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: AMRIS Rodents & Rabbits Rabbit Breeding
hay what kind of rabbits do you got i got a white new zealand rabbit
trish <bubles77@...> wrote:Maybie she was too young? i have been lucki
i think,, i had a mle for bout 5 years then got a female from the shelter,, and
they have had 3 litters since,, and she had 4 first time 5 next and 6 on the
next unfortunatly for the first time on the litter she had now,, we lost one at
three weeks,, i8 put that down to changing from mums milk to the grain,, might
ave been too earli ,, but my has been good,, is the box enclosed so you
cant look,, no disturbing the mum?
----- Original Message -----
From: diamonds_lm
To: AMRIS_rodents_and_rabbits@...
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:26 AM
Subject: AMRIS Rodents & Rabbits Rabbit Breeding
Hi everyone I am new to the group my name is Leonie and am hoping to
find some information and help on rabbit breeding. We have four
rabbits well my kids have four rabbits LOL. A female rabbit on the
weekend had 5 baby rabbits unfornuately by Sunday all of them had
died. The mother didn't seem to be interested in her babies at all
my DH managed to get the last surviving rabbit to latch on to the
mother but by morning it appeared she had buried it underneath all
the hay. Is this normal for a first time mum, will she do this for
subsequent births or will she get the hang of what to do. My eldest
daughter was pretty upset by it and if this going to happen all the
time I think the best thing to do would be desexing. We have never
owned rabbits before so I really have no idea. Any advice would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks
Cheers
Leonie
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i need to know information about a white new zealand rabbit
Joelle <jmaybe@...> wrote:i had a mle for bout 5 years then got a
female from the shelter,, and they have had 3 litters since,,
I am really interested to know why you want to breed them.
What do you do with all the babies, how do you find them good homes? You say you
got your female from the shelter - what shelter doesn't desex them first? And
having seen all the unwanted animals at the shelter, how can you justify
breeding more? Did you know that for undesexed females, the risk of uterine
cancer has been placed as high as 85% by the age of 3 years?
Joelle
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i had a mle for bout 5 years then got a female from the shelter,, and they have
had 3 litters since,,
I am really interested to know why you want to breed them.
What do you do with all the babies, how do you find them good homes? You say you
got your female from the shelter - what shelter doesn't desex them first? And
having seen all the unwanted animals at the shelter, how can you justify
breeding more? Did you know that for undesexed females, the risk of uterine
cancer has been placed as high as 85% by the age of 3 years?
Joelle
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
hay what kind of rabbits do you got i got a white new zealand rabbit
trish <bubles77@...> wrote:Maybie she was too young? i have been lucki i
think,, i had a mle for bout 5 years then got a female from the shelter,, and
they have had 3 litters since,, and she had 4 first time 5 next and 6 on the
next unfortunatly for the first time on the litter she had now,, we lost one at
three weeks,, i8 put that down to changing from mums milk to the grain,, might
ave been too earli ,, but my has been good,, is the box enclosed so you
cant look,, no disturbing the mum?
----- Original Message -----
From: diamonds_lm
To: AMRIS_rodents_and_rabbits@...
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:26 AM
Subject: AMRIS Rodents & Rabbits Rabbit Breeding
Hi everyone I am new to the group my name is Leonie and am hoping to
find some information and help on rabbit breeding. We have four
rabbits well my kids have four rabbits LOL. A female rabbit on the
weekend had 5 baby rabbits unfornuately by Sunday all of them had
died. The mother didn't seem to be interested in her babies at all
my DH managed to get the last surviving rabbit to latch on to the
mother but by morning it appeared she had buried it underneath all
the hay. Is this normal for a first time mum, will she do this for
subsequent births or will she get the hang of what to do. My eldest
daughter was pretty upset by it and if this going to happen all the
time I think the best thing to do would be desexing. We have never
owned rabbits before so I really have no idea. Any advice would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks
Cheers
Leonie
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Hi All,
I am looking for 1...actually I will take 2 if they are a
pair....rabbits to share my home. I live in a 2 bedroom unit that they
can run around in and I will be getting a large cage for my balcony
incase they want some fresh air.
I live in a quiet street in Gladesville (city side of Ryde) and have
owned rabbits previously.
Ideally I would like to rescue a bunny or adopt one in need - not
interested in buying from breeders at the moment as the little bunnies
would only be pets for me to lavish with attention.
If you know of any buns that would suit a indoors environment - are
affectionate and would love attention let me know.
Sonya
Maybie she was too young? i have been lucki i think,, i had a mle for bout 5
years then got a female from the shelter,, and they have had 3 litters since,,
and she had 4 first time 5 next and 6 on the next unfortunatly for the first
time on the litter she had now,, we lost one at three weeks,, i8 put that down
to changing from mums milk to the grain,, might ave been too earli ,, but my
girl has been good,, is the box enclosed so you cant look,, no disturbing the
mum?
----- Original Message -----
From: diamonds_lm
To: AMRIS_rodents_and_rabbits@...
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:26 AM
Subject: AMRIS Rodents & Rabbits Rabbit Breeding
Hi everyone I am new to the group my name is Leonie and am hoping to
find some information and help on rabbit breeding. We have four
rabbits well my kids have four rabbits LOL. A female rabbit on the
weekend had 5 baby rabbits unfornuately by Sunday all of them had
died. The mother didn't seem to be interested in her babies at all
my DH managed to get the last surviving rabbit to latch on to the
mother but by morning it appeared she had buried it underneath all
the hay. Is this normal for a first time mum, will she do this for
subsequent births or will she get the hang of what to do. My eldest
daughter was pretty upset by it and if this going to happen all the
time I think the best thing to do would be desexing. We have never
owned rabbits before so I really have no idea. Any advice would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks
Cheers
Leonie
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rabbit pellets [not the crap with seeds etc in it, just plain pellets] and a
selection of leafy greens like boc choy, cos lettuce, parsley, and chicory. But
most importantly, good quality hay. Where are you?
Joelle
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From: monkeys_2020
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Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 11:50 PM
Subject: AMRIS Rodents & Rabbits a new zealand rabbits
what do a white new zealand rabbits eat someone pm me back as soon
as possble
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will she do this for
subsequent births or will she get the hang of what to do. My eldest
daughter was pretty upset by it and if this going to happen all the
time I think the best thing to do would be desexing.
There are thousands of healthy but unwanted rabbits put to death in animal
shelters every week. There is absolutely no justification for breeding more. I
don't mean to sound harsh but this is something I feel strongly about - your
rabbits could have up to 8 babies every time, and they can get pregnant again on
the same day they give birth. How are you going to find good homes for all those
babies? Because that will be your responsibility if you allow them to be born.
Separate the males from the females now and have them all desexed ASAP, is my
heartfelt advice. They will be happier, healthier [risk of uterine cancer for
unspayed females is extremely high] and less destructive. Please don't let them
breed. Have a look at the House Rabbit Society website rabbit.org for some good
info.
Joelle
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Hi everyone I am new to the group my name is Leonie and am hoping to
find some information and help on rabbit breeding. We have four
rabbits well my kids have four rabbits LOL. A female rabbit on the
weekend had 5 baby rabbits unfornuately by Sunday all of them had
died. The mother didn't seem to be interested in her babies at all
my DH managed to get the last surviving rabbit to latch on to the
mother but by morning it appeared she had buried it underneath all
the hay. Is this normal for a first time mum, will she do this for
subsequent births or will she get the hang of what to do. My eldest
daughter was pretty upset by it and if this going to happen all the
time I think the best thing to do would be desexing. We have never
owned rabbits before so I really have no idea. Any advice would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks
Cheers
Leonie
JEANS!!! How long are you guys going to keep those size 3 jeans in the closet
for? You know for as long as you have them, you wont fit into them. So let the
rats enjoy em! I put all my old jeans (or the ones that don't fit anymore, lol)
into my rattie cages. they just love to shred em! Takes them time too. You can
cut them up or add them in whole. its the perfect snuggli nest for them. Its
also a way for you to lose the weight. I can almost bet after you get rid of all
the jeans you held onto for so long is when your gonna lose the pounds!
COFFEE CAN Hide outs-- Don't throw out them coffee cans anymore. I use them in
place of those expensive igloos or cardboard tubes. Just replace every time you
finish off the coffee can. If you do keep them longer, make sure to dry well
after cleaning to avoid rusting. the plastic ones should be replaced after
chewing.
BEDDING-- Save $$ on carefresh and add in cut up jeans, or blankets to your
bedding. (Not recommended for litters of babies.) Be sure to use tough material
that is not easily shredded. i mix carefresh and blankies together. I get double
the use out of the expensive carefresh and still controls odor. Easier to
freshen by removing washable bedding and adding in clean ones.
Ceramic Pet Bowls-- Forget Petco or any other pet store, your local dollar store
carries them dirt cheap! I still have a ceramic feeding bowl i bought 4 years
ago. I paid a dollar for it.
TREATS- Rawhide in bulk, or biscuits in bulk. Sometimes cheaper than buying the
box. Also bake your own or make your own recipe. I sometimes make dog biscuits
for my ratties. When time is a factor, i buy the milkbones in bulk. I can get 5
lbs for under $3.00. Email me for a homemade recipe or where you can buy a mix
to bake on your own if you wish.
CAGE CLEANER-- Water/white vinegar/ tea tree oil. Add in a spray bottle for
between cleanings or use in the bucket for deep cleaning.
DIRTY RATTIES! Use a small litter or shoe box and add in the (clean and bug
free) digging soil! Cheap and dirty fun for them!
NEWSPAPERS-- Save them for the bottom of cages if you have a rattie that can't
use regular bedding. it will help soak up urine. I use it in my recovery cage
for ratties in recovery.
I place newspaper on the bottom and lay a thick blanket or towel on top. Then I
add more cut up blankets to make more bedding. Sometimes ratties after surgery
cannot have loose bedding such as carefresh or aspen.
No time to cut up fresh??? Buy your fruits or veggies in advance and cut up for
the next few days ahead of time. saves $$ and time, and your ratties prefer
fresh over canned, trust me.
No more throwing out soggy veggies or fruit. Plan to buy twice a week to ensure
fresh and crisp food for them.
I am sure there are plenty more out there! Just some ideas for the newbies and
the thrifty fanciers!
Enjoy!
Randi
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This is not carved in stone as everyone is entitled to thier own opinions. I am
sharing this with you that I recieved from one of my nutrition classes at
school. It helped me realize a little more about the food I feed my pets as the
common consumer. I am not certified in Pet Nutrition and am not claiming dry
foods/canned foods are better than any other diet you may be feeding your pet.
As always, please check with your veterinarian if you plan to switch your pets
diets around and / or supplements in the case your pet has specific nutritional
needs.
Have you ever wondered "what is this ingredient for?" This is an ingredient list
that will help for Rats, Dogs, Cats, Rabbits, Ferrets, etc. (Not All Ingredients
May Be Found) You will find these ingredients in many pet foods whether its for
dogs or small critters. This is some FYI, so print this out and take it with you
the next time you shop for your pet food or plan to change to a new pet food.
This list can help you in making that decision. As this list is intended
specifically for dogs and cats, everything found in small animal foods may not
be listed and can be found by researching. But there still are plenty of
ingredients listed here that is found in small animal foods today.
Thanks and happy learning!
Apples-- Natural source of calcium, iron, and vitamin A,C, K, and high in fiber.
Ascorbic Acid-- Stabilized form of vitamin C (natural antioxidant which works
synergistically with vitamin E.
Barley--The entire barley kernel ground or chopped; a source of carbohydrates
and essential fatty acids.
Biotin-- (a B vitamin) involved in the synthesis of fatty acids, non essential
amino acids, and purine.
Blueberries-- Natural antioxident and high in vitamin C.
Borage oil-- Vegetable oil, source of a-linolenic acid, a non inflammatory omega
6 fatty acid. It helps to maintain skin moisture, block inflammatory substances
and reduce redness and itching of skin.
Brewers Yeast-- Dried non-fermentative yeast (Saccharomyces) resulting from the
brewing of beer; an source of protiens and vitamins; also used to enhance
palatability.
Brewers Rice-- Broken rice; a source of carbohydrates, protien and fiber.
Brown Rice-- Superior carbohydrate source and high in B vitamins; whole, broken
or ground kernals of rice not seperated from the bran.
Calcium Carbonate--mineral supplement containing 38% calcium; source of calcium)
(calcium is necessary for proper bone growth and maintenance, as well as muscle
contraction, nerve impulse transmission, and blood coagulation)
Clacium Iodate-- most stable form of iodine; contains 63.5% iodine.
Calcium Pantothenate-- (pantothenic acid, a B vitamin) involved in carbohydrate,
fat, and protien metabolism.
Canola Oil--Oil with lowest saturated fat thats high in essential fatty acids
(Omega 3); oil obtained from the pressing of grapeseed, which are processed for
edible purposes.
Capsicum-- Natural antioxident that may improve circulation; a derivative of
cayenne pepper.
Chamomile--May have wound healing and anti-inflammatory properties; soothes the
stomach.
Cheese-- Quality protien source; product obtained by dehydrating cheeses--no
more than 10% of the fat may be other than milk fat.
Chelated minerals-- Minerals absorbed by the body easier and retained longer;
minerals attached to amino acids. ( they will end in proteinate)
Chicken-- source of high quality protien ( the clean combination of flesh and
skin with or without accompanying bone, derived from the parts or whole
carcasses of chicken or a combination thereof, exclusive of feathers, heads,
feet, and entrails.)
Chicken by-product meal-- ground rendered, clean parts of chicken, such as
necks, feet, undeveloped eggs, and intestines, exclusive of feathers. Source of
protien. (meal=dyhydrated and ground form of the ingredient.) When the word
poultry is used instead of "chicken", the meal contains other poultry sources
such as turkey.
Chicken by-products-- clean parts of chicken, such as necks, feet, undeveloped
eggs, and intestines, exclusive of feathers. source of protien & fat, lartge
percentage is water. ( When "poultry" is used instead of chicken, the meal
contains other sources such as turkey.
Chicken fat-- (preserved with mixed tocopherals) Highly palatable and high in
Omega 6 and other essential fatty acids, such as arachidonic acid; fat obtained
from the tissues of chicken during the rendering process.
(when the word "poultry" is used instead of chicken, the meal contains other
sources such as turkey.
Chicken Flavor--used in small amounts to coat the outside of kibble- a flavor
enhancer.
Chicken Liver-- Liver obtained from chicken, excellent source of protien and
vitamin A.
Chicken Meal-- dry renedered product from clean poultry flesh and skin without
bone--does not contain feathers, heads, feet, or entrails. good source of
protien, fat, calcium, and phosphorus. When the word "poultry" is used instead
of chicken, the meal contains other sources such as turkey.
Chicory extract-- a source of fructo oligosaccharides (FOS) Stimulates growth of
beneficial bacteria in the digestive system, while inhibiting the growth of
pathogenic (disease causing) bacteria.
Choline Chloride-- complex vitamin B is essential in synaptic transmission of
nerve impulses and is an integral part of cellular membranes.
Chondroitin Sulfate-- Naturally occuring compound associated with joint health
(acts as a building block for health cartilage and inhibits enzymes from
degrading healthy cartilage.
Cinnamon-- May protect against arthritis.
Copper proteinate-- Chelated source of copper ( copper is necessary for the
absorption and transportation of dietary iron)
Copper Sulfate--Non chelated source of copper, not as absobable as copper
proteinate.
Corn cellulose-- purified, mechanically disintegrated cellulose prepared by
processing alpha cellulose obtained as a pulp from fibrous plant material.
Corn Flour-- entire corn kernal ground or chopped, a source of carbohydrates,
fiber and essential fatty acids.
Corn Gluten-- Dried residue from corn after the removal of starch, germ, and
bran. Highly digestable, low ash protein source.
Dandelion-- May act as a blood cleanser.
Dehydrated alfalfa meal-- aerial portion of the alfalfa plant, a potent, natural
antioxident and natural source of vitamins. High in vitamin K.
Dicalcium Phosphate-- antioxident, mineral supplement containing approximately
20% calcium and 18% phosphorus; source of calcium & phosphorus which is
imporatnt for bone growth and maintenance.
DL-methionine--amino acid necessary for growth and protien synthesis; can also
acidify urine (decrease ph)
Died Egg Product-- High quality protien with superior bioavailability (dried
whole puoltry egs freed of moisture by thermal means.)
Dried Enterocococcus diacetylactis fermentation product,
Dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product,
Dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product,
Dried Lactobacillus casei fermentation product,
Dried Lactobacillus lactis fermentation product,
Dried Lactobacillus plantarum fermentation product,:
Products derived from culturing micro organisms on the appropriate medium and
dried in accordance to approved manufacturing processes. Used as a source of
beneficial intestinal bacteria (probiotic). Very fragile, must be aded to food
after extrusion.
Ferrous sulfate-- non cheltaed source of iron.
Fish-- cleaned tissue of whole fish or fish cutings; good source of protien,
fat, calcium and the amino acid in taurine; contains omega 3 fatty acids.
Fish Meal-- ground tissue of undercomposed whole fish or fish cuttings; good
source of proien, fat calcium, phosphorus and the amino acid taurine.
Fish oil-- obtained from fish; source of omega 3 fatty acids.
Flax-- Rich in omega 3 fatty acids, high in fermentable fibers.
Folic acid supplement-- a B vitamin for cellular growth and maturation.
Garlic-- may enhance the immune system.
Ginger-- May enhance the immune system, dried root of the plant.
Glucosamine Hydrochloride-- Naturally occurring compound associated with joint
health. works synergistically with chodroitin sulfate.
Grapefood Extract- potenet antioxident.
Green Tea- an source of polyphenols- potent antioxidents. Also have been shown
to fight viruses, slow aging, and to have other health benefits.
Iron proteinate-- chelated form of iron. Iron is necessary for oxygen
transportation.
Kelp-- Natural mineral supplement. Dried seaweed, source of iodine. ( necessary
for the synthesis of thyroid hormones) and vitamin K.
Lamb- Flesh of lamb, with or without bone, free of other products that are
unavoidable in processing. ( source of protien, fat, calcium, phosphorus,
largest percentage is water)
Lamb Meal--the rendered product from lamb tissue, exclusive of blod, hair, hoof,
horn, hide trimmings, manure, stomach, and rumen contents except in such amounts
as may occur unavoidably in processing practices, source of protien and
minerals. Is higher in ash than chicken by product meal or chicken meal.
L-ascorbyl-2-polyophosphate-- absorbic acid derivative (source of vitamin C)
L-carnitine-- helps burn fat & maintain muscle mas during weight loss.
L-lysine-- amino acid for growth and protien synthesis.
Magnesium Oxide- source of magnesium, part of bone and functions in a number of
metabolic reactions.
Maganese Oxide-- non chelated source of maganese.
Manganese proteinate-- chelated source of manganese, a part of cell enzymes
which catalyze metabolic reactions.
Monosodium phosphate-- mineral supplement containing approximatley 21%
phosphorus and 32% sodium, source of phosphorus.
Natural Flavor-- Clean animal tissue or the material from the chemical and/or
enzymatic breakdown of clean animal tissue, used to enhance the palatability of
products.
Niacin supplement-- the third B vitamin which functions in the metabolism of
fats, carbohydrates, and protien.
Oatmeal-- Source of of carbohydrates and fiber, high in iron, consists of broken
and finely ground oat groats along with a small amount of oat hulls. ( lowered
glucose curve after eating helps the pet feel full longer.)
Paprika-- Natural antioxident.
Pea Fiber--a form non fermentable fiber which is used to help prevent hairballs
from forming.
Potassium Chloride-- mineral supplement containing approximatly 52% potassium (
an electrolyte which maintains proper fluid volume required for numerous
enzymatic reactions, and aids in the ransmission of nerve impulses and the
contraction of muscle.) and 48% chloride ( an electrolyte for proper acid base
balance and water balance within the body. is also a part of hydrochloric acid
which initiates digestion within the stomach) Used a a source of potassium and
chloride.
Potassium Citrate-- sodium salt of citic acid- source of potassium.
Powdered Cellulose-- non ferementable fiber- purified, mechanically
disintigrated cellulose prepared by processing alpha cellulose obtained as a
pulp from fiberous plant materials.
Pryridoxine hydrochloride-- Vitamin B-6, for amino acid metabolism, and to a
lesser extent metabolism of glucose and faty acids, also important in the
synthesis of red blood cells.
Riboflavin Suplement-- Vitamin B2, involved in the metabolism of fats,
carbohydrates, and protien.
Rice Flour-- soft, finely ground meal obtained from milling rice; source of
carbohydrates.
Rice gluton-- dried residue from rice after the removal of the starch, germ, and
bran; source of digestable low ash protien.
Rice hulls-- outer coating of white or brown rice; non fermentable fiber source
which helps to form a firm stool.
Rosemary Extract-- extract of rosemary a potenet antioxident.
Saccharomyces cerevisiae ferementation solubles-- source of mannan
oligosaccharides (MOS) a prebiotic which stimulates the intestinal immune system
and helps prevent the growth of harmful bacteria.
Sage- Natural antioxident , dried herb.
Salmon Oil-- the oil from salmon, high in omega 3 fatty acids, and for the
control of inflammation throughout the body.
Salt-- Vital for celluler health; mineral supplement containing aproximatly 39%
sodium and 61% chloride.
Sodium Bisulfate-- Salt.
Sodium caseinate-- solid material obtained from milk by precipitation; source of
high quality protien.
Sodium selenite-- source of selenium. ( selenium protects cell membranes from
oxidative damage. Has a close relationship with vitamin E)
Spinach-- source of lutein and a natural antioxident.
Spray Dried Chicken-- sparyed on food, increases palatability of food.
Spray Dried Chicken Liver-- chicken liver broth sprayed on food, increases
palatability of food.
Spray Dried whole eggs-- egg protien.
Sunflower Meal-- source of B vitamins, vitamin E, calcium, iron , and fiber. Up
to 24% protien.
Sweet Potatoes-- High in fiber and vitamin C & E and carbohydrate source. Whole
potatoes and pieces obtained from the processing of potatoes for human
consumption.
Taurine-- amino acd; essential amino acid in cats. New Researches now pointingto
the dietary taurine being important for canine health.
Thiamine mononitrate-- vitamin B-1; more stable than other forms of B-1 in the
presence of water.
Tomato pomance-- Natural source of fiber and vitamin A; solid residue that
remains after juices are extracted.
Tuna Oil-- contains mega 3 fatty acids.
Turkey-- clean combination of poultry flesh and skin with or without bone-- does
not contain feathers, heads, feet or entrails; source of protien and fat.
Vegetable Oil--oil obtained from the seeds of plants, which are processed for
edible purposes; source of energy and essential fatty acids.
Vitamin A acetate-- source of vitamin A.
Vitamin A supplement-- vitamin A for vision, bone growth, reproduction, and skin
maintenance.
Vitamin B12 supplement-- (also called cobalamin) contains the mineral cobalt and
is for fat carbohydrate metabolism and for myelin synthesis. ( coating the
nerves)
Vitamin C supplement-- not considered essential for dogs and cats, (but
necessary for Guinea Pigs) it is added to foods for its potent antioxident
properties.
Vitamin E supplement one of the most potent antioxidents.
Vitamin D3 supplement-- (cholecalciferol) involved in the regulation of calcium
and phosphorus metabolism; can be produced in the skin when the skin is exposed
to sunlight.
Yucca schidigera extract-- may reduce fecal odor, derived from juice and stalk
of plant; reduces ammonia production, increases organic matter digestion.
Zeolite-- mineral used in puppy foods and some cat fods. Aids in decreasing the
risk of diarrhea and helps prevent the absorption of toxins in the intestine.
Zinc Oxide-- non chelated source of zinc.
Zinc proteinate-- chelated source of zinc; influences carbohydrates, fat,
protein, and nucleic acid synthesis. An important factor in cellular immunity
and reproduction. Important for skin and eye health.
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