Thank you for allowing me to join your group. You see, my passion is ratties -
and I endeavor to find homeless ratties their best forever homes. Although I
live in the USA - occasionally I do hear of a need in AU. I'm involved with rat
rescue at a local humane society and am Moderator of Rat Lovers United and The
Illustrated Rat.
Living in Michigan's North woods - there are very few rattie-folks up here!
That's why I've made so many new, and wonderful friends through the Internet :)
Carol J and the 9 bratty ratties/Northern Michigan
Rat EMERGENCY? eMail: rathelp@yahoogroups.com
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Welcome to our new members and thank you to Anna for keeping us posted
with adoption notices. Please check out her posts.
This year in 2009 will see more info posted than ever before.
Lets make this group the biggest online adoption group and lets share
our love of bunnies and rodents.
cheers, Rebekah Blackwolf-Mitchell
What a wonderful poem! I don't know anything about mice, but the poem
really says a lot. My friend had a mouse living in her apartment and
didn't want to harm it, so she started giving it fresh water everyday
instead, and eventually graduated to food as well. I worry that she
may be exposing her pets to rodent diseases by doing that. Do you know
about these concerns? I assume many people have turned wild mice into
pets like this.
--Anna
--- In AMRIS_rodents_and_rabbits@..., Katherine Medina
<hellowittykitty@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone.. :0)
>
> i just wanted to share this little poem written by my sister(whos
(34). weve had about 3 generations of tiny mice in my family and have
loved every one to pieces. right now theres only one survivor..all the
rest have passed on from old age or disease.
>
> hope you enjoy it.
>
>
> Mouse
>
> Small and unnoticed save for the briefest rustle of paper
> I scuttle and scurry to stay safe,
> always on the lookout for danger
> with swift little feet to bear me away.
>
> I am mouse.
>
> Look closer and you will see finely manicured nails,
> delicate hands (not paws!) for grasping and holding.
> A tiny mind pondering smaller, simpler thoughts
> looking out onto a world of giants with tiny, curious eyes
> and twitching whiskers
>
> I am not filthy.
> I groom with the utmost care, fur well cleaned
> Ears perked and alert
> The damaged world around me rubs off on my fur,
> poisons my home and mine
>
> I am not a pest, nor am I abhorrent.
> The Good Lord placed me in his garden before you.
> From time to time I may intrude into your world,
> Only consider, you intruded into my world first
>
> Do not feed me evil, do not entrap and starve me
> Do not be cruel to me as if I were dangerous.
> I feel as all living things feel. Pain, happiness, sorrow.
>
> Though unheard I weep, and cry out in pain and even sing
> No man hears me, I am too insignificant for man.
> My maker hears me. I am his creature
>
> Were our roles reversed, I a colossus and man as I am
> Why, I would be a huge, ponderous bulk!
> (A veritable mountain range from your point of view)
> Snarling and sneering with the sound of thunder
> chasing the "pest" from my home
>
> And yet
>
> I remain mouse.
> Small and fragile as my maker made me,
> humble and dignified in my humility,
> trying to live as all things do.
> Scurrying here and there for a crust,
> eking out a living in this world,
> mine and yours
>
> Mouse
>
>
>
> Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address.
> www.yahoo7.com.au/y7mail
>
We need donations and rescue/adoptions to save our shelter animals!
Local shelters are clearing room for animals who were evacuated from
the June 11th fire in the Santa Cruz mountains. This fire is separate
from the one that started on May 22 that was declared a state
emergency. Making room for evacuated animals means that our high
rabbit population is at-risk for euthanasia! The evacuated animals
will be returned to their owners as soon as the fire is contained, but
euthanizing an animal is permanent!
If you can help please contact the primary rabbit coordinator, Julie
Wood at H:831.688.8118 or C: 831.212.1935, julie@... for
any questions or additional information. Please donate money using the
PayPal account on the Friends of Santa Cruz County Animals website:
www.foscca.org and be sure to send Julie an email to let her know that
the money is designated for the rabbits rather than general funds.
RESCUE/ADOPTERS NEEDED FOR HIGHLY ADOPTABLE SPAYED/NEUTERED AND
MICROCHIPPED BUNNIES!!! THESE Himalayan, dwarf, dutch, rex, lop, and
young bunnies ARE AT-RISK BECAUSE THERE IS NO SPACE!
Last weekend, shelter staff extended their initial 72 hour warning
that the rabbits would be euthanized because we were able to get four
adoptions and one temporary foster home last week. They are especially
concerned about one rabbit who is receiving complaints from staff. She
is traumatized and afraid of the people who work there. Every time her
cage gets cleaned, she boxes or gets defensive before she can be
picked up. She is actually very shy and sensitive, which is why she is
getting worse in a noisy shelter. I think she is most at-risk for
euthanasia and we need to get her into foster care or rescue ASAP. We
have not been able to find anyone who cares about her because people
are prejudiced against the albino bunnies, and because some people are
scared of her. I just see a very frightened girl and don't know how
anyone could be scared of such a needy bunny. Her name is Rosie the
Riveter. We do need other rescue/adoptions in order to keep staff
happy and avoid future euthanasia scares. I am so glad we survived
those 72 hours without any losses!
There is plenty of room for incoming dogs and cats, but will the
bunnies survive a second devastating fire? The next two days will be
crucial for these neglected creatures.
Please if you can help in any way with rescue/adoptions or long-term
foster care, contact me immediately!!! If you would like to make a tax
deductible donation, please send
checks to FOSCCA c/o Julie Wood, 750 Valencia Road , Aptos , CA 95003
. If you are unable to reach Julie, you may also contact Anna Barker
at 831.566.5452, annabarker@... Heather of the RabbitHaven at
831.239.7119, director@...
RESCUE/ADOPTERS NEEDED FOR HIGHLY ADOPTABLE SPAYED/NEUTERED AND
MICROCHIPPED BUNNIES!!! SANTA CRUZ, CALIFORNIA, USA
If you can help please contact the primary rabbit coordinator, Julie
Wood at H:831.688.8118 or C: 831.212.1935, Julie@... for
any questions or additional information.
We have over 20 rabbits and need to find rescue and/or homes for them
SOON OR RABBITS WILL BE EUTHANIZED. Staff gave us advanced warning so
that we could save these Himalayan, dwarf, dutch, rex, lop, and young
bunnies. Prior to the 3,500 acre fire that caused hundreds of families
and pets to evacuate their homes, both the animal shelter and local
rescue groups were already overwhelmed with sever post-Easter dumps.
Many families are now homeless because of the fire and are giving up
their animals. Some rabbits even ran away from because of the smoke in
the air.
Three rabbits were recently confiscated from an aviary after they were
attacked by roosters. It gets worse: these pets were owned by a local
public school and none of the adults or teachers were mature enough to
report the situation to authorities. Two young children went to the
local animal shelter to let them know about three bunnies who were
only being fed birdseed, and when officers arrived, they found a
bloody mess. Only two rabbits survived from that situation. Are these
teachers qualified to educate our children so that they will grow up
to be responsible citizens? Two children took responsibility, but now
we must take responsibility for caring for these bunnies.
On May 3, an illegal slaughterhouse/feedlot was reported for animal
abuse and 14 livestock were confiscated, along with two rabbits who
had no food or water. These two sweet, loving girls were desperate for
attention and are so happy to be out of that situation and not
slaughtered for food.
May 1, 2008 our shelter received 21 rabbits from a resident who had
let his rabbits breed under his house. Many of these rabbits were
babies, and four were under 2 pounds! They were malnourished and were
fighting off predator attacks. Several had wounds that required
emergency vet care. Two days later a local resident found 2 other
rabbits that were dumped near a busy road. Our maximum is 12
bunnies!!! We already have 7 rabbits in foster care, and these rabbits
need rescue and adopters! We have volunteers available to transport if
we can find rescue. Please if you can help in any way with
rescue/adoptions or long-term foster care, contact me immediately!!!
If you would like to make a tax deductible donation, please send
checks to FOSCCA c/o Julie Wood, 750 Valencia Road , Aptos , CA
95003 . If you are unable to reach Julie, you may also contact Anna
Barker at 831.566.5452, annabarker@... or Heather of the Rabbit
Haven at 831.239.7119, director@....
Happy Mothers day to you too. Some of your message was missing.
However, for everyone else, Mouse Mom is our groups official "Movie
Maker" ( If she didn't already know, then she dose now - ha ha)
Please check out Mouse Mom's posts, they are adorable.
cheers, Rebekah.
This is just lovely.
Prehaps you could submit it to Animal Liberation Queensland, for
their magazine. They are about to do a write-up on this group to help
the cause of rodents everywhere.
This is a very charming poem and I honestly have not seen any better
yet.
cheers, Rebekah Blackwolf-Mitchell,
AMRIS founder.
--- In AMRIS_rodents_and_rabbits@..., Katherine Medina
<hellowittykitty@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone.. :0)
>
> i just wanted to share this little poem written by my sister(whos
(34). weve had about 3 generations of tiny mice in my family and have
loved every one to pieces. right now theres only one survivor..all
the rest have passed on from old age or disease.
>
> hope you enjoy it.
>
>
> Mouse
>
> Small and unnoticed save for the briefest rustle of paper
> I scuttle and scurry to stay safe,
> always on the lookout for danger
> with swift little feet to bear me away.
>
> I am mouse.
>
> Look closer and you will see finely manicured nails,
> delicate hands (not paws!) for grasping and holding.
> A tiny mind pondering smaller, simpler thoughts
> looking out onto a world of giants with tiny, curious eyes
> and twitching whiskers
>
> I am not filthy.
> I groom with the utmost care, fur well cleaned
> Ears perked and alert
> The damaged world around me rubs off on my fur,
> poisons my home and mine
>
> I am not a pest, nor am I abhorrent.
> The Good Lord placed me in his garden before you.
> From time to time I may intrude into your world,
> Only consider, you intruded into my world first
>
> Do not feed me evil, do not entrap and starve me
> Do not be cruel to me as if I were dangerous.
> I feel as all living things feel. Pain, happiness, sorrow.
>
> Though unheard I weep, and cry out in pain and even sing
> No man hears me, I am too insignificant for man.
> My maker hears me. I am his creature
>
> Were our roles reversed, I a colossus and man as I am
> Why, I would be a huge, ponderous bulk!
> (A veritable mountain range from your point of view)
> Snarling and sneering with the sound of thunder
> chasing the "pest" from my home
>
> And yet
>
> I remain mouse.
> Small and fragile as my maker made me,
> humble and dignified in my humility,
> trying to live as all things do.
> Scurrying here and there for a crust,
> eking out a living in this world,
> mine and yours
>
> Mouse
>
>
>
> Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email
address.
> www.yahoo7.com.au/y7mail
>
Hi everyone.. :0)
i just wanted to share this little poem written by my sister(whos (34). weve had
about 3 generations of tiny mice in my family and have loved every one to
pieces. right now theres only one survivor..all the rest have passed on from old
age or disease.
hope you enjoy it.
Mouse
Small and unnoticed save for the briefest rustle of paper
I scuttle and scurry to stay safe,
always on the lookout for danger
with swift little feet to bear me away.
I am mouse.
Look closer and you will see finely manicured nails,
delicate hands (not paws!) for grasping and holding.
A tiny mind pondering smaller, simpler thoughts
looking out onto a world of giants with tiny, curious eyes
and twitching whiskers
I am not filthy.
I groom with the utmost care, fur well cleaned
Ears perked and alert
The damaged world around me rubs off on my fur,
poisons my home and mine
I am not a pest, nor am I abhorrent.
The Good Lord placed me in his garden before you.
From time to time I may intrude into your world,
Only consider, you intruded into my world first
Do not feed me evil, do not entrap and starve me
Do not be cruel to me as if I were dangerous.
I feel as all living things feel. Pain, happiness, sorrow.
Though unheard I weep, and cry out in pain and even sing
No man hears me, I am too insignificant for man.
My maker hears me. I am his creature
Were our roles reversed, I a colossus and man as I am
Why, I would be a huge, ponderous bulk!
(A veritable mountain range from your point of view)
Snarling and sneering with the sound of thunder
chasing the "pest" from my home
And yet
I remain mouse.
Small and fragile as my maker made me,
humble and dignified in my humility,
trying to live as all things do.
Scurrying here and there for a crust,
eking out a living in this world,
mine and yours
Mouse
Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address.
www.yahoo7.com.au/y7mail
I am terribly sorry to those members with the name
Suny, Sunny or Sunni - girl ...in their email ID who
were banned from AMRIS for SPAM. I realise that I may
have falsley accused some members wrongly. However,
the nature of the SPAM was such that I had to protect
other, younger, members from reading it and rounded-up
everyone with those ID's to clean out the culprit.
If anyone in this club has been offended by me banning
thm I am sorry. However, if you ARE the Spammer -
please do not try again as I know my way around
computors and you will be delt with for trying to push
your smutt inside my group.
God Bless Rebekah.
A Little Island of Favourites - My Online Scrapbook by Rebekah
Blackwolf-Mitchell
http://au.geocities.com/ashleigh_shadowplay
Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address.
www.yahoo7.com.au/y7mail
Dear Rebekah,
Thank you for your letter informing us about Recycle A Rodent. I am
the Education Director at the Animal Welfare League of Qld (AWL Qld)
and your letter was passed onto me as I am know within the
organisation to have a special fondness and concern for companion
rodents.
At the AWL Qld we care for over 10,0000 stray, abandoned and injured
animals every year. A small proportion of those are small animals
such as guinea pigs, rabbits, ferrets, mice and of course rats. Of
all the small animals that we have surrendered to our Refuge, rats
are of the most concern to me. It seems that as you said in your
letter, they are easily discarded and abandoned, despite the fact
that they are as intelligent and affectionate as a dog or cat. It is
especially sad for me as I have kept companion rats all my life and
know what beautiful animals they can be.
I too am of the opinion that pet stores are irresponsible in their
carefree sale of these rodents, and am saddened by people's
attitudes that they are simply vermin like the rats on the street.
It is for this reason that I take special interest in each
surrendered rat case that comes through our Refuge. As a result many
of the rats that do come through the AWL do get rehomed. Having said
this, your website will be an excellent resource for us to use in
order aid our rat rehoming efforts, so thank you for drawing our
attention to it.
Thanks once again
J
Zoe Hermans B Ed (Grad), B Comn
Education Director
Animal Welfare League Qld Inc
Ph: (07) 5509 9032
Mob: 0431 021 531
Hehe..i found this on you tube..its gorgeous..check it out :0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-admRGFVNM
oh and mousemom..i loooove our vids.. your little ones are soo
adorable!!
Big Hugs for everyone!
Kathy :0)
I have a couple of cages that I don't need any more but are too good to
throw away. I'm at Ringwood East in Melbourne. My mobile is 0417 668871
if you are interested.
Hello all!
If you have any rat, mouse, rabbit and guinea pig hutches, equipment,
cages and other stuff to give away free to others then consider
looking at this FreeCycle site!
Here is where that old wooden hutch that just needs a little repair,
but you no longer want it, can be taken off your hands for free!! - No
tip fees, no waste, no landfill.
http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/KnoxOzFreecycle/
Thank you for joining!!
Feel free to share your own club inside this one!!!
Thank you for spreading the word!!!
Cheers,
Rebekah - founder AMRIS Online.
Hi all l was wondering if anyone has some baby mice nearly ready or ready to
go - We have just buried James' parti coloured girl 'Runaway' who we have had
since April 2005 and' Crazy Jacqui' is the same age so l am not sure how much
longer we will have her but she needs a friend or 2 (female)! I am in Romsey
vic but realise we will have to travel - we saw some lovely show mice at Seymour
quite a few years ago and one of the other dog exhibitors bought James 'Dally'
who has also passed on. Pauline and James Freeman sunfire@...
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Hello!
My name is Spritely. I am a charming black hooded boy. I live with my
two bigger brothers, Stumpy and Sprocus. They are also black hooded
boys (who are slightly on the chubby side!).
Our Mama is going overseas to live and is stressing ridiculously about
finding us our new loving home. I know she hates the thought of
handing us over to someone else, so that's why I have taken matters
into my own little hands.
We are all well behaved, friendly and a little bit cheeky. We love our
hammocks and cuddling together, It's all we've ever known, so we don't
ever wanna be separated.
We need our exercise, at least an hour a day. (we've proven ourselves
to be great fly catchers too!) We've got a cage and mum can help you
get set up with our dry food mix, bedding and an info sheet on how to
keep us happy and healthy.
So, if you have some spare room for us three lads, please contact Mum.
0419 256 573, jlkrasnicki@...
You can also help us out by spreading the word. We're in Melbourne but
mum is willing to travel to find us the perfect home!
Thanks for reading,
Love, Spritely.
(on behalf of Jill Krasnicki)
We have a new video of mice using the new style wheel for the first
time. This one features Scruffy who is determined to get the hang of it
and often pushes her two friends out of the way....and uses them as landing
pads.
You can see it here: http://www.youtube.com/heretherebemice
Mouse Mom
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There is now a video of our mice at YouTube. They're trying to learn to
use a new kind of wheel and they're not very good at it, but they're cute
and funny and determined. This is our first video at YouTube and we want
to know what you think.
You can see it here: http://www.youtube.com/heretherebemice
Don't miss it! It's good for a few laughs, especially Sable.
Mouse Mom
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Hi! I am a big rat fan and i have 17 rats (3 girls, 4 boys and 10
babies) one of my dumbo male have recently started to bite me and i was
wondering whether or not you could help me figure out why? When i
handle him, i wash my hands before hand so there are no smells. e is
all cuddly one minute and the next he wants to take my finger off!!
Please Help :( xx
Oh Boy, Oh Boy - A Look at Male Rats
By Rebekah Blackwolf
Founder of the Australian Mouse and Rat Information Service.
It does not seem fortunate to be born a rat in a human plagued world.
More so, it is even less lucky to be born a male rat. Rat owners will
agree that our lovable choice of pet is often discriminated against;
however, it is the male rat who is the most misunderstood.
Many breeders are finding it harder to get homes for boy rats than
for girls. It is not uncommon for breeders to house more females than
males, leaving them with excess male rats who either become neglected
through lack of handling or become 'feeders' (sold as reptile food).
Pet shops favour selling their male rats and mice cheaper to
customers who want them as reptile food, finding female rodents can
be sold for a higher cost as they are more popular for pets.
While working in Pets Paradise - a well known pet shop chain here in
Australia - I found it was common practise for male rats and mice to
be sold for reptile food. This was due to the fact that (to quote my
former boss): "Nobody wants them as pets. They all want girls".
The Australian Mouse and Rat Information Service is always left with
more males to foster than females. Ironically enough, I have found
that males are the more gentle of both sexes.
One of the reasons for male rats being unpopular seems to stem from
their close relative the MOUSE. Basically Micky stinks, while Mini
does not. The sales pitch I have heard in pets shops for rodents
is, "The females do not have the odour that the males do". This
applies to selling rats too.
Yes, male mice do have a tangy scent. People who do not know rodents
well seem to assume the same goes with male rats too, when infact
male rats do not have as strong a scent as mice.
Siam, my siamese mouse, does have an odour typical to male mice, but
this is no problem if his home is cleaned regularly. Basquait, my old
foster boy rat, does not have an odour at all.
With mice and rats there are some simple tips to keep away
unnecessary odours. Make sure their nesting material and litter does
not become damp. Avoid feeding them meat, diary products or too much
watery green vegetables - such as lettuce. Meat should be avoided in
particular as it makes their poo stink - to be blunt. Another tip is
to avoid rice hulls as litter. Although I have not experienced this
myself, apparently if mice or rats eat this, it makes their poo very
smelly and runny.
The next reason male rats seem unpopular is the myth that they are
more aggressive than females. Rats are colony animals and one of the
few species whose males do not drive away adolescent males when they
come of age. Unlike buck deers and horse stallions, male rats allow
other males born into the colony to continue living in the family
unit for as long as they choose to.
Adult male rats introduced as strangers tend to fight, and sometimes
it is best to keep them seperate. However I have quite a few success
stories where male rats have learned to get along after a few days of
minor scuffles.
Male rats have quite a stable nature. Of the genus 'rattus
norvegicus' (of which our domestic rats come from) it is the female
who is more likely to fight and bite. In the wild it is the female
who does the fighting to protect the nest and her young. It is also
said to be the female who is more likely to kill her own species than
the male.
Instinct is still strong in rats when it comes to the ways of their
wild ancestors. Both male and female domestic rats can become
aggressive if neglected of handling and proper care by their owners.
Pet rats are quick to return to their wild-rat ways if left for too
long without human attention.
The last reason for not wanting a male rat, and one I hear about more
than the smell, is their testicles. Yes, those hairless jelly-beans,
which seem way too big for the needs of one rat, can look
rather...well..lets say....yucky! They do not hide discreetly away
when not in use, rather they are stick out like a portable two-seater
couch. Some claimed 'rat lovers' who do like rats, still cannot seem
to stomach the sight of these attributes and favour the more neat and
compact female instead.
You must understand that male rats have to fertilise a lot of eggs
inside the female, and often have to perform such tasks every month
with many, many females. Therefore, male rats need
enough 'ammunition', so hence the 'larger than most' size. After all,
rats would not be such 'prolific' breeders if it weren't for those
testicles.
If you love your male rat, then size does not matter, rather it is
personality which makes him a great pet. However, if you wish to keep
him in a mixed home of males and females and do not want babies, or
you really cannot handle the sight of his testicles, then a vet can
desex him for you. Make sure your vet is experienced with small
animals so there is less risk of complications during surgery,
particularly with the correct dosage of anesthestic.
Personally, I have never had a problem with aggression in my male
rats. I actually find them a lot more relaxed and less 'frantic' than
the females. Both males and females will make equally good pets if
handled gently, with respect for their vunerablities and compassion
towards their needs for attention and general care.
To find out more about the Australian Mouse and Rat Information
Service, please visit;
http://www.geocities.com/petsburgh/reserve/5824
Well it looks like we are starting anew!
Sorry to all our members but it seems that our entire message list has
been deleated.
Yhis problem is being delt with by Yahoo.
However this means we'll be starting our messages and information
archives from the beginning.
I appoligise to all members who have posted advertisements for homes
and have asked questions inside the club.
Please post these again.
Any problems please email me directly at:
lady_azurewolf@...
thanks for your understanding,
Rebekah Blackwolf-Mitchell
club founder.
Anyone and everyone is welcome to join this club.
However, if you start posting unrelated SPAM you will be reported.
We don NOT want advertisements for medical items and dateing services.
This club is only for those who are interested in mice, rats, rabbits
and guinea pigs.
If you are a club member and are concerned that someone is posting
rude, sexsual or unrelated spam messages inside this club - PLEASE
report it to me at:
lady_azurewolf@... - as well as to Yahoo.
I, Rebekah Blackwolf-Mitchell, as founder of this club wish for
everyone to enjoy their time here and to have fun learning about the
animals mentioned in this club.
I DO NOT tolerate SPAM which upsets my group members.
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