Subject: Fiji trip
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 08:24:31 +1100

Hello Everyone,

 

We are trying to gauge the level of interest for another Fiji holiday/training expedition in late July.  If you are interested in joining us, please let me know and I will get to work on definate dates, itinerary and costing.  Could you please ask any of your interested students to contact us soon. Thanks, Valerie

Andrew

My apologies wil not be able to make it this weekend.

Are you going to schedule for the rest of the year? I can then pencil
them in my diary and ensure I have the best chance of getting over.

REgards
Clive

--- In AikiYuishinSyd@..., Andrew Sunter
<atsunter@y...> wrote:
> Hi everyone, our January intensive is tomorrow. Be there in time
for a 9.30 start.
> 
> regards
> 
> Andrew
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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Andrew

My apologies wil not be able to make it this weekend.

Are you going to schedule for the rest of the year? I can then pencil
them in my diary and ensure I have the best chance of getting over.

REgards
Clive

--- In AikiYuishinSyd@..., Andrew Sunter
<atsunter@y...> wrote:
> Hi everyone, our January intensive is tomorrow. Be there in time
for a 9.30 start.
>
> regards
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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To: griffithaikido ,
aikidoyuishinkai
From: Daniel James
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:01:55 +1000
Subject: [aikidoyuishinkai] Williams Sensei Semina, Saturday Mar 19th 2005, Cleveland Dojo

SEMINAR ANNOUNCEMENT
Michael Williams Sensei Chief Instructor  Aikido Yuishinkai International
Saturday Mar 19th 2005, Cleveland Dojo, Australia
--
dr. daniel james, school of microelectronics,
griffith university, nathan qld 4111, australia

http://maxwell.me.gu.edu.au/dj/
http://griffithaikido.com
+61 (0)7 3875 5036 (w), +61 (0)7 3875 5384(f) ,
+61 (0)401 683 592 (m)

"..we're continually bombarded with promises of immediate gratification,
instant success, and fast, temporary relief, all of which lead in exactly
the wrong direction", G.Leonard



> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/octet-stream name=Williams_seminar_Mar_19th_2005.pdf

Hi All,
Frankie Chan Sensei has setup a yahoo discussion group for all members of
and those interested in Master Koretoshi Maruyama's Aikido Yuishinkai to
interact in. If you would like to join this group you can do so with the
following link.

http://asia.groups.yahoo.com/group/aikidoyuishinkai/

Or

http://asia.groups.yahoo.com/group/aikidoyuishinkai/join


Cheers,
Dan

--
dr. daniel james, school of microelectronics,
griffith university, nathan qld 4111, australia

http://maxwell.me.gu.edu.au/dj/
http://griffithaikido.com
+61 (0)7 3875 5036 (w), +61 (0)7 3875 5384(f) ,
+61 (0)401 683 592 (m)

"..we're continually bombarded with promises of immediate gratification,
instant success, and fast, temporary relief, all of which lead in exactly
the wrong direction", G.Leonard

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> Subject: Merry Christmas
> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:15:43 -0000
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> To: "Andrew Sunter" <atsunter@...>
>
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> All the best for a happy Christmas and a great 2005. Best wishes to everyone
> else in the dojo as well - if you are having another training before
> Christmas.
>
> Miranda
>
>
>
>
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Just a reminder that, as well as our xmas party, we will be having our final
intensive of the year tomorrow.

We will have our second guest instructor of the week, Michael Clarke Sempai,
for the first session. Mike Sempai has a black belt in aikibudo (Kufudokan) and
has also trained for several years in Takemusu Aikido under Takayasu Sensei
(6-dan). Some of you have met Mike Sempai on previous visits. This is the first
time he has accepted an invitation to teach.

We will train the usual times, 9.30 to 11.30, break for coffee, then 12 to 2.00

best regards

Andrew



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Craig has arranged our xmas party, please see the details below. Sorry for the
late notice. Hope to see you all there. Please respond if you are going to be
there (and with how many people) so we can adjust the booking if necessary.

Best regards

Andrew

--- Craig Leith wrote:
> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:20:24 +1100
> To: Andrew Sunter
> From: Craig Leith
> Subject: Xmas Party
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> I have arranged the following venue for our Xmas celebrations this
> Saturday night. Hope to see you there.
>
> Venue -
>
> White Horse Restaurant & Bar
> 381 Crown Street (Near Foveaux Street)
> Surry Hills
> Ph 8333 9900
>
> Wide menu - Entrees $ 14.00 - $ 16.00 Mains $ 27.00 - $ 30.00
>
> I have made a booking at the brasserie for 8 people, please let me
> know if numbers are increasing.
>
> Booking - 7.30 pm
>
> Vesna & I will be there at 6.30 pm if you wish to arrive early for a
> pre dinner drink or two.
>
> Look forward to seeing you all there.
>
> Craig
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Having trouble sending this e-mail, could you please forward this to the
> group.
>
> Craig
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> _________________________________________________
> Craig Leith
> Sales Manager
> Foodservice Equipment International Pty. Limited
> 51 Chard Road
> BROOKVALE NSW 2100
> Ph: (02) 9938 5000
> Fax: (02) 9938 5055
>

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Andrew,
Sorry about this, Craig did phone me to ask if I could send it out but
I have been stuck in meetings ever since.  Thanks for sending it out.

Kate

>>> atsunter@... 16/12/04 17:17:56 >>>

Craig has arranged our xmas party, please see the details below. Sorry
for the
late notice. Hope to see you all there. Please respond if you are going
to be
there (and with how many people) so we can adjust the booking if
necessary.

Best regards

Andrew

  --- Craig Leith <sales@...> wrote:
> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:20:24 +1100
> To: Andrew Sunter <atsunter@...>
> From: Craig Leith <sales@...>
> Subject: Xmas Party
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> I have arranged the following venue for our Xmas celebrations this
> Saturday night. Hope to see you there.
>
> Venue -
>
> White Horse Restaurant & Bar
> 381 Crown Street (Near Foveaux Street)
> Surry Hills
> Ph 8333 9900
>
> Wide menu - Entrees $ 14.00 - $ 16.00 Mains $ 27.00 - $ 30.00
>
> I have made a booking at the brasserie for 8 people, please let me
> know if numbers are increasing.
>
> Booking - 7.30 pm
>
> Vesna & I will be there at 6.30 pm if you wish to arrive early for a

> pre dinner drink or two.
>
> Look forward to seeing you all there.
>
> Craig
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Having trouble sending this e-mail, could you please forward this to
the
> group.
>
> Craig
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> _________________________________________________
> Craig Leith
> Sales Manager
> Foodservice Equipment International Pty. Limited
> 51 Chard Road
> BROOKVALE  NSW  2100
> Ph:  (02) 9938 5000
> Fax: (02) 9938 5055
>

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of course, we should have mentioned that the party is this Saturday, 18 Dec

A

  --- Andrew Sunter <atsunter@...> wrote:

---------------------------------
Craig has arranged our xmas party, please see the details below. Sorry for the
late notice. Hope to see you all there. Please respond if you are going to be
there (and with how many people) so we can adjust the booking if necessary.

Best regards

Andrew

  --- Craig Leith <sales@...> wrote:
> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:20:24 +1100
> To: Andrew Sunter <atsunter@...>
> From: Craig Leith <sales@...>
> Subject: Xmas Party
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> I have arranged the following venue for our Xmas celebrations this
> Saturday night. Hope to see you there.
>
> Venue -
>
> White Horse Restaurant & Bar
> 381 Crown Street (Near Foveaux Street)
> Surry Hills
> Ph 8333 9900
>
> Wide menu - Entrees $ 14.00 - $ 16.00 Mains $ 27.00 - $ 30.00
>
> I have made a booking at the brasserie for 8 people, please let me
> know if numbers are increasing.
>
> Booking - 7.30 pm
>
> Vesna & I will be there at 6.30 pm if you wish to arrive early for a
> pre dinner drink or two.
>
> Look forward to seeing you all there.
>
> Craig
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Having trouble sending this e-mail, could you please forward this to the
> group.
>
> Craig
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> _________________________________________________
> Craig Leith
> Sales Manager
> Foodservice Equipment International Pty. Limited
> 51 Chard Road
> BROOKVALE  NSW  2100
> Ph:  (02) 9938 5000
> Fax: (02) 9938 5055
>

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Craig has arranged our xmas party, please see the details below. Sorry for the
late notice. Hope to see you all there. Please respond if you are going to be
there (and with how many people) so we can adjust the booking if necessary.

Best regards

Andrew

  --- Craig Leith <sales@...> wrote:
> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:20:24 +1100
> To: Andrew Sunter <atsunter@...>
> From: Craig Leith <sales@...>
> Subject: Xmas Party
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> I have arranged the following venue for our Xmas celebrations this
> Saturday night. Hope to see you there.
>
> Venue -
>
> White Horse Restaurant & Bar
> 381 Crown Street (Near Foveaux Street)
> Surry Hills
> Ph 8333 9900
>
> Wide menu - Entrees $ 14.00 - $ 16.00 Mains $ 27.00 - $ 30.00
>
> I have made a booking at the brasserie for 8 people, please let me
> know if numbers are increasing.
>
> Booking - 7.30 pm
>
> Vesna & I will be there at 6.30 pm if you wish to arrive early for a
> pre dinner drink or two.
>
> Look forward to seeing you all there.
>
> Craig
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Having trouble sending this e-mail, could you please forward this to the
> group.
>
> Craig
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> _________________________________________________
> Craig Leith
> Sales Manager
> Foodservice Equipment International Pty. Limited
> 51 Chard Road
> BROOKVALE  NSW  2100
> Ph:  (02) 9938 5000
> Fax: (02) 9938 5055
>

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Wish I could be there. Hope you have a great time.

Mark.


> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
>  Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:22:48 +1100 (EST)
>  From: Andrew Sunter <atsunter@...>
> Subject: Guest instructor
>
> On Wednesday, 15 December, class will be taught by Dr Danny James Sensei
> (4-dan) from our Griffith University club. James Sensei is an eclectic budo
> researcher. One of his areas of interest is the analysis and integration of
> basic exercises. Next week, James Sensei will explore the connection between
> kumitachi and our three ashi waza from the warm-ups (changing hanmi, moon
> shadow -- lizard legs and cutting). He will then examine how these principles
> have application in taijutsu.
>
> James Sensei works in the field of sports performance telemetry. He will
> present a paper at a conference in Japan next September entitled "Dynamics of
> a swing: A study of classical Japanese swordsmanship using accelerometers".
>
> After class we will probably eat pizza and drink beer at our local restaurant.
>
> Hope to see you all there.
>
> regards
>
> Andrew
>

I can only make the first session.

Kate

>>> atsunter@... 26/11/04 12:06:48 >>>
The November intensive is tomorrow (Saturday).

Please let me know if you intend being there.

regards

Andrew



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The November intensive is tomorrow (Saturday).

 

Please let me know if you intend being there.

 

regards

 

Andrew

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-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Sunter [mailto:atsunter@...]
Sent: Friday, 12 November 2004 15:30
To: !AikiYuishinSyd
Subject: [AikiYuishinSyd] coming events

Hi all

 

Coming events

 

Sat 20 Nov: Mike Williams Sensei seminar Brisbane

 

Sun 21 Nov: Miranda's grading (Auckland)  

            You can send emails of encouragement

            and congratulation to

            miranda.welch@...

 

Sat 27 Nov: November intensive: 9:30 am to 2 pm

 

Sat 11 Dec: Dan gradings, Byron Bay

 

Sat 18 Dec: December intensive: 9:30 am to 2 pm

      PLUS  Dojo Xmas party (evening)

 

Wed 22 Dec: Last class of 2004

 

Mon 10 Jan: First class of 2005

 

Mon 31 Jan: Start of 8-week beginner course

 

 

I'm off to NZ tomorrow to check the aiki scene in Auckland and see Miranda grade. Martin will be taking classes next week. Please give him your support and wish him bon voyage. These are Martin's last classes for 2004 as he is going back to Wales for about a month.

 

best regards

 

Andrew

 

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Is Aikido a complete martial art?  Can the Aikidoka reach the
pinnacle training solely in Aidido?

Or does it need to be supplemented by another, complementary
internal art e.g. Tai Chi, Pakua or Hsingi to produce a well-rounded
martial artist?

Neil

Howdy All,

Apparently Ben is going better than Miranda at the moment (hugs to
Miranda!).  No broken bones, anyway.

Things up in ol' Humpty Doo are pretty good.  I am already desperately
busy - catching snakes, measuring snakes, feeding snakes - snakes,
snakes, snakes.

Accommodation is an ongoing issue however.  I am currently stuck
sharing a very small flat with another guy and am using borrowed space
to temporarily house the animals.  Someone in the government up here
thought it was a sensible thing to bulldoze half the village that I
normally stay in.  About eight perfectly functional houses were
destroyed.  No-one really knows why.  No-one really cares.

My work requires me to go out most evenings until about 11pm searching
for (you guessed it) snakes.  This commitment, coupled with a one hour
drive to Darwin and a little transport issue will probably preclude
regular (if any) training.  But my weapons are en route and there are
always opportunities to practice aikido.  Large, scary venomous snakes,
for example, have a marvelous ability to focus the mind!  And small
community politics are endlessly fascinating.

I am glad Mark decided to bite (even if I find the metaphor alarming).
Mark, personally, I feel more inclined towards your point of view and
agree wholeheartedly.  Unfortunately, I have a tendency to occasionally
make outrageous statements just to see if they can be justified.  There
is often a grain of truth and always a different perspective: Aims,
goals and opinions can be dangerous.  Perhaps the aim of Aikido is to
show us the harmonious alternative, and that is all.

Anyway,  hope everyone is happy (irrespective of bone condition).

Hooray!!

Ben



On Thursday, October 21, 2004, at 11:21  AM, Andrew Sunter wrote:

> Thanks for that Ben. I wonder if Aikido is aimless...
>  
> How about telling us what's happening up there in Humpty Doo? Are you
> settling in OK? How is the work going? Have you done any training?
>  
> Andrew
>
> Ben Phillips <bphi4487@...> wrote:
>
> Hmmmm. At the risk of sounding facetious:
>
> Aikido has no aim.
>
> My idea of Aikido is unimportant.
>
> My (foolish) goal is to understand it all.
>
> Ben
>
>
> On Monday, October 18, 2004, at 01:38 PM, Andrew Sunter wrote:
>
> > O-sensei is often quoted as having said that aikido is 90% atemi, but
> > I'm not sure of the source. Can anyone help with that?
> >  
> > I dig your response, Ben, are you going to have a go at Mike's other
> > questions:
> >  
> > define what Aikido's aims are
> > what your idea of aikido is
> > what your goal in training aikido is?
> >  
> > A
> >
> > Ben Phillips wrote:
> >
> > Ola,
> >
> > How about this:
> >
> > A convincing atemi (from Uke's perspective) comes from the knowledge
> > that Nage is in a position and has the capability to deliver a solid
> > blow.  As a nage, the best way to convince Uke that this is the case
> is
> > actually to be in the position and have the capability of delivering
> a
> > solid blow.  So I think Mike is probably right about training to
> strike
> > well.
> >
> > And of course just because you can doesn't mean that you have to. 
> This
> > is where the spirit of Aikido lies.
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > On Sunday, October 17, 2004, at 05:14  PM, Mike Allen wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > G'Day everyone,
> > > I just joined this group at the invitation of Sensei Sunter.  What
> a
> > > good
> > > idea Andrew to get things going here in Sydney.  Now I hadn't
> noticed
> > > how
> > > long this group has been up and running but there is not much
> action
> > > on the
> > > email front.  Or am I not receiving the discussions?
> > >
> > > Here is something I have been pondering.  How does atemi fit with
> the
> > > spirit
> > > of Aikido training?  I mean should you train to do it?  And if so
> > why?
> > >  And
> > > in what way?
> > >
> > > I personally feel you should train to strike what you are aiming
> at,
> > at
> > > anytime, any place and from any position with maximum power.
> > >
> > > 'This is not Aikido' I here some of you scream subconsciously.  So
> > > what do
> > > you think?  To answer I think you will have to define what Aikido's
> > > aims are
> > > and even what your idea of aikido is or what your goal in training
> > > aikido
> > > is.
> > >
> > > Mike Allen
> > > Sydney
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Ben Phillips
> > Biological Sciences A08
> > University of Sydney
> > NSW 2006
> > Australia
> >
> > Ph. +61 8 8988 8153
> >         +61 429 450 923
> >
> >
> > http://www.bio.usyd.edu.au/shinelab/students/ben/ben.html
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
> > Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
> >
>
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > • To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/AikiYuishinSyd/
> >  
> > • To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > AikiYuishinSyd-unsubscribe@...
> >  
> > • Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
> >
> >
>
> Ben Phillips
> Biological Sciences A08
> University of Sydney
> NSW 2006
> Australia
>
> Ph. +61 8 8988 8153
> +61 429 450 923
>
>
> http://www.bio.usyd.edu.au/shinelab/students/ben/ben.html
>
>
>
<image.tiff>
>
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>
<image.tiff>
>
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>
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>

Ben Phillips
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University of Sydney
NSW 2006
Australia

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         +61 429 450 923


http://www.bio.usyd.edu.au/shinelab/students/ben/ben.html

OK, I'll bite...

> Aikido has no aim.
I'm thinking that O'Sensei might have had something to say about that! I
believe that he might have said that the aim of Aikido was to bring about
peace (harmony/love).

From my perspective the aim of (my) Aikido is to learn about myself, to have
an arena of challenge and investigation that leads to a better understanding
of how I interact in myself, and with others. The trials that I face in
Aikido exactly reflect the opportunities to learn I am presented with, in my
life.

My idea of Aikido is a set of life principles that can be transported from
discipline to discipline, and are always valid in any arena. Aikido is AN
application of these principles, not THE application.

My goal is to remain open to the challenge of change that Aikido constantly
presents me with. To try to see:
when I become arrogant and think that I know how to do a technique;
when I stop listening to another's voice over my own - think I know better;
Where my blocks are, and how these translate into my life;
When my tension/aggression/fighting mind come into play, and how I might
circumvent these in the future.

As for Atemi... I figure a convincing Atemi is one that moves Uke's mind!

Mark.

Hmmmm. At the risk of sounding facetious:

Aikido has no aim.

My idea of Aikido is unimportant.

My (foolish) goal is to understand it all.

Ben


On Monday, October 18, 2004, at 01:38 PM, Andrew Sunter wrote:

> O-sensei is often quoted as having said that aikido is 90% atemi, but
> I'm not sure of the source. Can anyone help with that?
>  
> I dig your response, Ben, are you going to have a go at Mike's other
> questions:
>  
> define what Aikido's aims are
> what your idea of aikido is
> what your goal in training aikido is?
>  
> A
>
> Ben Phillips wrote:
>
> Ola,
>
> How about this:
>
> A convincing atemi (from Uke's perspective) comes from the knowledge
> that Nage is in a position and has the capability to deliver a solid
> blow.  As a nage, the best way to convince Uke that this is the case is
> actually to be in the position and have the capability of delivering a
> solid blow.  So I think Mike is probably right about training to strike
> well.
>
> And of course just because you can doesn't mean that you have to.  This
> is where the spirit of Aikido lies.
>
> Ben
>
> On Sunday, October 17, 2004, at 05:14  PM, Mike Allen wrote:
>
> >
> > G'Day everyone,
> > I just joined this group at the invitation of Sensei Sunter.  What a
> > good
> > idea Andrew to get things going here in Sydney.  Now I hadn't noticed
> > how
> > long this group has been up and running but there is not much action
> > on the
> > email front.  Or am I not receiving the discussions?
> >
> > Here is something I have been pondering.  How does atemi fit with the
> > spirit
> > of Aikido training?  I mean should you train to do it?  And if so
> why?
> >  And
> > in what way?
> >
> > I personally feel you should train to strike what you are aiming at,
> at
> > anytime, any place and from any position with maximum power.
> >
> > 'This is not Aikido' I here some of you scream subconsciously.  So
> > what do
> > you think?  To answer I think you will have to define what Aikido's
> > aims are
> > and even what your idea of aikido is or what your goal in training
> > aikido
> > is.
> >
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Hmmmm.  At the risk of sounding facetious:

Aikido has no aim.

My idea of Aikido is unimportant.

My (foolish) goal is to understand it all.

Ben


On Monday, October 18, 2004, at 01:38  PM, Andrew Sunter wrote:

> O-sensei is often quoted as having said that aikido is 90% atemi, but
> I'm not sure of the source. Can anyone help with that?
>  
> I dig your response, Ben, are you going to have a go at Mike's other
> questions:
>  
> define what Aikido's aims are
> what your idea of aikido is
> what your goal in training aikido is?
>  
> A
>
> Ben Phillips <bphi4487@...> wrote:
>
> Ola,
>
> How about this:
>
> A convincing atemi (from Uke's perspective) comes from the knowledge
> that Nage is in a position and has the capability to deliver a solid
> blow.  As a nage, the best way to convince Uke that this is the case is
> actually to be in the position and have the capability of delivering a
> solid blow.  So I think Mike is probably right about training to strike
> well.
>
> And of course just because you can doesn't mean that you have to.  This
> is where the spirit of Aikido lies.
>
> Ben
>
> On Sunday, October 17, 2004, at 05:14  PM, Mike Allen wrote:
>
> >
> > G'Day everyone,
> > I just joined this group at the invitation of Sensei Sunter.  What a
> > good
> > idea Andrew to get things going here in Sydney.  Now I hadn't noticed
> > how
> > long this group has been up and running but there is not much action
> > on the
> > email front.  Or am I not receiving the discussions?
> >
> > Here is something I have been pondering.  How does atemi fit with the
> > spirit
> > of Aikido training?  I mean should you train to do it?  And if so
> why?
> >  And
> > in what way?
> >
> > I personally feel you should train to strike what you are aiming at,
> at
> > anytime, any place and from any position with maximum power.
> >
> > 'This is not Aikido' I here some of you scream subconsciously.  So
> > what do
> > you think?  To answer I think you will have to define what Aikido's
> > aims are
> > and even what your idea of aikido is or what your goal in training
> > aikido
> > is.
> >
> > Mike Allen
> > Sydney
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Ben Phillips
> Biological Sciences A08
> University of Sydney
> NSW 2006
> Australia
>
> Ph. +61 8 8988 8153
>         +61 429 450 923
>
>
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>
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Ola,

How about this:

A convincing atemi (from Uke's perspective) comes from the knowledge
that Nage is in a position and has the capability to deliver a solid
blow.  As a nage, the best way to convince Uke that this is the case is
actually to be in the position and have the capability of delivering a
solid blow.  So I think Mike is probably right about training to strike
well.

And of course just because you can doesn't mean that you have to.  This
is where the spirit of Aikido lies.

Ben

On Sunday, October 17, 2004, at 05:14  PM, Mike Allen wrote:

>
> G'Day everyone,
> I just joined this group at the invitation of Sensei Sunter.  What a
> good
> idea Andrew to get things going here in Sydney.  Now I hadn't noticed
> how
> long this group has been up and running but there is not much action
> on the
> email front.  Or am I not receiving the discussions?
>
> Here is something I have been pondering.  How does atemi fit with the
> spirit
> of Aikido training?  I mean should you train to do it?  And if so why?
>  And
> in what way?
>
> I personally feel you should train to strike what you are aiming at, at
> anytime, any place and from any position with maximum power.
>
> 'This is not Aikido' I here some of you scream subconsciously.  So
> what do
> you think?  To answer I think you will have to define what Aikido's
> aims are
> and even what your idea of aikido is or what your goal in training
> aikido
> is.
>
> Mike Allen
> Sydney
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Ben Phillips
Biological Sciences A08
University of Sydney
NSW 2006
Australia

Ph. +61 8 8988 8153
        +61 429 450 923


http://www.bio.usyd.edu.au/shinelab/students/ben/ben.html

Ola,

How about this:

A convincing atemi (from Uke's perspective) comes from the knowledge
that Nage is in a position and has the capability to deliver a solid
blow.  As a nage, the best way to convince Uke that this is the case is
actually to be in the position and have the capability of delivering a
solid blow.  So I think Mike is probably right about training to strike
well.

And of course just because you can doesn't mean that you have to.  This
is where the spirit of Aikido lies.

Ben

On Sunday, October 17, 2004, at 05:14  PM, Mike Allen wrote:

>
> G'Day everyone,
> I just joined this group at the invitation of Sensei Sunter.  What a
> good
> idea Andrew to get things going here in Sydney.  Now I hadn't noticed
> how
> long this group has been up and running but there is not much action
> on the
> email front.  Or am I not receiving the discussions?
>
> Here is something I have been pondering.  How does atemi fit with the
> spirit
> of Aikido training?  I mean should you train to do it?  And if so why?
>  And
> in what way?
>
> I personally feel you should train to strike what you are aiming at, at
> anytime, any place and from any position with maximum power.
>
> 'This is not Aikido' I here some of you scream subconsciously.  So
> what do
> you think?  To answer I think you will have to define what Aikido's
> aims are
> and even what your idea of aikido is or what your goal in training
> aikido
> is.
>
> Mike Allen
> Sydney
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Ben Phillips
Biological Sciences A08
University of Sydney
NSW 2006
Australia

Ph. +61 8 8988 8153
         +61 429 450 923


http://www.bio.usyd.edu.au/shinelab/students/ben/ben.html

G'Day everyone,
I just joined this group at the invitation of Sensei Sunter.  What a good
idea Andrew to get things going here in Sydney.  Now I hadn't noticed how
long this group has been up and running but there is not much action on the
email front.  Or am I not receiving the discussions?

Here is something I have been pondering.  How does atemi fit with the spirit
of Aikido training?  I mean should you train to do it?  And if so why?  And
in what way?

I personally feel you should train to strike what you are aiming at, at
anytime, any place and from any position with maximum power.

'This is not Aikido' I here some of you scream subconsciously.  So what do
you think?  To answer I think you will have to define what Aikido's aims are
and even what your idea of aikido is or what your goal in training aikido
is.

Mike Allen
Sydney