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--- In ClimateChangeAction@..., "Peter Bright"

<hobart_elf@...> wrote:

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                Clean water ,clean energy ,and the solution for the

gulfstream slowdown:



Put in sea a construction of windmills combined with electric

boilers, these get preheated by suncollectors and sunmirrors.

the steam they produce gets used by steam engines wich produce again

electricity ,salt and when you condesate the steam coming from the

steam engines sweet water.

The salt water you take out of salt water coming from the warm

gulfstream and the left over salt from the steam engines gets used to

release in the cold stream.

So the cold  stream gets saltier again and and won't mingel with the

warm gulfstream becaurse before it was less saltier caursed by the

melting gletchers and slowing down the warm gulfstream becaurse less

saltier water is lighter.

Preventing an possibel iceage.

The sweet water can then be used to  make hydrogen ,so if there is

for exampel a lot of wind and you don't need all that electricity ,

you are abel to stock it and use it later.

The rest of the water can with adding of minnerals serve as drinking

water.

The oxygen deriving from turning water into hydrogen can be devided

in sea to clean the water and to make more suitebel for marinelife.

So you produce electricity and drinking water

Peter - the perpetual techno-optimist...!!



have you any idea of the volumes of water involved in the gulf stream??????



Imagine the volume of Sydney harbour going past every second.....



oh - and where exactly are we going to get the resources to build such a

humongous system??? - CO2 releases involved... get the idea??



Hugh







>--- In ClimateChangeAction@..., "Peter Bright"

><hobart_elf@...> wrote:

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>http://www.garnautreview.org.au/domino/Web_Notes/Garnaut/garnautweb.ns

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>               Clean water ,clean energy ,and the solution for the

>gulfstream slowdown:

>

>Put in sea a construction of windmills combined with electric

>boilers, these get preheated by suncollectors and sunmirrors.

>the steam they produce gets used by steam engines wich produce again

>electricity ,salt and when you condesate the steam coming from the

>steam engines sweet water.

>The salt water you take out of salt water coming from the warm

>gulfstream and the left over salt from the steam engines gets used to

>release in the cold stream.

>So the cold  stream gets saltier again and and won't mingel with the

>warm gulfstream becaurse before it was less saltier caursed by the

>melting gletchers and slowing down the warm gulfstream becaurse less

>saltier water is lighter.

>Preventing an possibel iceage.

>The sweet water can then be used to  make hydrogen ,so if there is

>for exampel a lot of wind and you don't need all that electricity ,

>you are abel to stock it and use it later.

>The rest of the water can with adding of minnerals serve as drinking

>water.

>The oxygen deriving from turning water into hydrogen can be devided

>in sea to clean the water and to make more suitebel for marinelife.

>So you produce electricity and drinking water

>

Good morning Hugh,



Your questions might be answered by directing them to the author of post

to which you refer. Willem is a new member of the group.



Peter







--- In ClimateChangeAction@..., hugh spencer <Hugh@...>

wrote:

>

> Peter - the perpetual techno-optimist...!!

>

> have you any idea of the volumes of water involved in the gulf

stream??????

>

> Imagine the volume of Sydney harbour going past every second.....

>

> oh - and where exactly are we going to get the resources to build such

a

> humongous system??? - CO2 releases involved... get the idea??

>

> Hugh

>

>

>

> >--- In ClimateChangeAction@..., "Peter Bright"

> >hobart_elf@ wrote:

> >>

> >>

>

>http://www.garnautreview.org.au/domino/Web_Notes/Garnaut/garnautweb.ns

> >f

> >>

> >

> >

> >               Clean water ,clean energy ,and the solution for the

> >gulfstream slowdown:

> >

> >Put in sea a construction of windmills combined with electric

> >boilers, these get preheated by suncollectors and sunmirrors.

> >the steam they produce gets used by steam engines wich produce again

> >electricity ,salt and when you condesate the steam coming from the

> >steam engines sweet water.

> >The salt water you take out of salt water coming from the warm

> >gulfstream and the left over salt from the steam engines gets used to

> >release in the cold stream.

> >So the cold  stream gets saltier again and and won't mingel with the

> >warm gulfstream becaurse before it was less saltier caursed by the

> >melting gletchers and slowing down the warm gulfstream becaurse less

> >saltier water is lighter.

> >Preventing an possibel iceage.

> >The sweet water can then be used to  make hydrogen ,so if there is

> >for exampel a lot of wind and you don't need all that electricity ,

> >you are abel to stock it and use it later.

> >The rest of the water can with adding of minnerals serve as drinking

> >water.

> >The oxygen deriving from turning water into hydrogen can be devided

> >in sea to clean the water and to make more suitebel for marinelife.

> >So you produce electricity and drinking water

> >

>







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Top of the Morning to you too Peter (:->)



sorry about the mistake - but the way the mail was addressed suggested that

it originated from you ....(see below)



But being a techno-realist (as well as a technological innovator here) -

there is a huge disconnect between 'Geo-engineering' - massive attempts to

change the earth's climate through large scale intervention - space

reflectors, sulphur aerosols, ocean seeding and so on.... and the things

that REALLY have to be done that reduce our impact and energy footprint -

biodigesters, efficient solar systems, efficient cooking technologies, etc

etc etc.. but there is always the "white-shoe brigade" - with something

shiny and new to dangle before the bemused

- claiming all sorts of environmental benefits - but on examination - it's

all snake oil (in fact we are drowing in eco-friendly snake oil!).



So I have a very hard view of this stuff..



H





>Good morning Hugh,

>

>Your questions might be answered by directing them to the author of post

>to which you refer. Willem is a new member of the group.

>

>Peter

>

>

>

>--- In ClimateChangeAction@..., hugh spencer <Hugh@...>

>wrote:

>>

>> Peter - the perpetual techno-optimist...!!

>>

>> have you any idea of the volumes of water involved in the gulf

>stream??????

>>

>> Imagine the volume of Sydney harbour going past every second.....

>>

>> oh - and where exactly are we going to get the resources to build such

>a

>> humongous system??? - CO2 releases involved... get the idea??

>>

>> Hugh

>>

>>

>>

>> >--- In ClimateChangeAction@..., "Peter Bright"

>> >hobart_elf@ wrote:

>> >>

>> >>

>>

>>http://www.garnautreview.org.au/domino/Web_Notes/Garnaut/garnautweb.ns

>> >f

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>> >               Clean water ,clean energy ,and the solution for the

>> >gulfstream slowdown:

>> >

>> >Put in sea a construction of windmills combined with electric

>> >boilers, these get preheated by suncollectors and sunmirrors.

>> >the steam they produce gets used by steam engines wich produce again



....snip...

Good morning Hugh,



How do you do?



We need people like you ..



.. with a very hard view!







--- In ClimateChangeAction@..., hugh spencer <Hugh@...>

wrote:

>

> Top of the Morning to you too Peter (:->)

>

> sorry about the mistake - but the way the mail was addressed suggested

that

> it originated from you ....(see below)

>

> But being a techno-realist (as well as a technological innovator here)

-

> there is a huge disconnect between 'Geo-engineering' - massive

attempts to

> change the earth's climate through large scale intervention - space

> reflectors, sulphur aerosols, ocean seeding and so on.... and the

things

> that REALLY have to be done that reduce our impact and energy

footprint -

> biodigesters, efficient solar systems, efficient cooking technologies,

etc

> etc etc.. but there is always the "white-shoe brigade" - with

something

> shiny and new to dangle before the bemused

> - claiming all sorts of environmental benefits - but on examination -

it's

> all snake oil (in fact we are drowing in eco-friendly snake oil!).

>

> So I have a very hard view of this stuff..

>

> H

>

>

> >Good morning Hugh,

> >

> >Your questions might be answered by directing them to the author of

post

> >to which you refer. Willem is a new member of the group.

> >

> >Peter

> >

> >

> >

> >--- In ClimateChangeAction@..., hugh spencer Hugh@

> >wrote:

> >>

> >> Peter - the perpetual techno-optimist...!!

> >>

> >> have you any idea of the volumes of water involved in the gulf

> >stream??????

> >>

> >> Imagine the volume of Sydney harbour going past every second.....

> >>

> >> oh - and where exactly are we going to get the resources to build

such

> >a

> >> humongous system??? - CO2 releases involved... get the idea??

> >>

> >> Hugh

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> >--- In ClimateChangeAction@..., "Peter Bright"

> >> >hobart_elf@ wrote:

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >>

>

>>http://www.garnautreview.org.au/domino/Web_Notes/Garnaut/garnautweb.ns

> >> >f

> >> >>

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >               Clean water ,clean energy ,and the solution for the

> >> >gulfstream slowdown:

> >> >

> >> >Put in sea a construction of windmills combined with electric

> >> >boilers, these get preheated by suncollectors and sunmirrors.

> >> >the steam they produce gets used by steam engines wich produce

again

>

> ....snip...

>







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