Aah, can you imagine if nobody wanted gold, or had no use for oil, or coal?

But it's sorta late for that. Canada and Australia are probably the
biggest uranium exporters, so maybe if we can get our acts together we
can at least cut it down some.
I have my doubts, but hey, what else are we gonna do?

Dan

On 3/14/06, Anne Goddard <winter___@...> wrote:
>
> I agree totally Dan...
> If it stayed in the ground where it belonged, then the global problems we
> will face with the waste would never exist.
> As this group has proved beyond reasonable doubt, the nuclear industry must
> be stopped.
>
> a
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> Subject: Re: [ClimateChangeAction] nuclear poll....
>
> If the Australians don't Canada will. We sold them their reactors,
> which they used to build weapons.
>
> I don't believe uranium should even be mined, let alone exported to
> countries who have nuclear weapons.
>
> Dan
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must have my head in the sand - what are the details of this bill?



> Stephen Lendman <lendmanstephen@...> wrote:
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If the Australians don't Canada will. We sold them their reactors,
which they used to build weapons.

I don't believe uranium should even be mined, let alone exported to
countries who have nuclear weapons.

Dan

On 3/14/06, Anne Goddard <winter___@...> wrote:
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> Please Vote now:
>
> Nuclear fuel
>
> Would you support Australia selling uranium to India?
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    Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:14:55 +1100
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Subject: Uranium to India poll

Subject: Uranium to India poll


Please Vote now:

Nuclear fuel

Would you support Australia selling uranium to India?

http://theage.com.au/polls/form.html


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Nuclear fuel
Would you support Australia selling uranium to India?

Yes - 47%

No - 53%

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Good travels Anne and always good to hear from you.
Hope you'll be able to look at the DU materials I sent
earlier.

And I must pass on news of an historic event in
Chicago last Fri although unreleated to environment.
Up to a half million were in the streets (by far an
historic record in this city) protesting a racist,
fascist anti-immigration bill that passed our House
and is now in our Senate.  It's right out of Nazi
Germany hell and could become law here along with our
Patriot Act renewal.

  Only good news is Bush's rating is at all-time low -
36% and 40% of conservatives reject his policies.  But
we're living in very dangerous times here and those
policies affect everyone everywhere.  I'm writing
about some of what's going on.

My best,

Steve

--- Anne Goddard <winter___@...> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Well things seem to have improved this end, and it
> looks like the trip to townsville/NT is going to
> happen.
>
> I will be collecting signatures on the "1st draft
> petition" along the way...
>
> I am heading into town tomorrow to get some supplies
> and hope to start driving on Thursday the 16th of
> March (my 46th birthday). The 17th is the 3rd
> aniversary of our invasion of Iraq. I hope to be in
> townsville by then, unless i am to pick up
> passengers along the way.
> Currently there will be two cars, two people, and
> two dogs.
>
> If anyone knows of anyone who would like to join us,
> there is room for 6 more.
>
> I will be making a video of the trip and of
> everything that we encounter along the way... hope
> to make DVD's of it when the nuclear industry is
> finished and my job is complete. Nothing like being
> hopeful. ;-)
>
> Will keep you all posted.
>
> Warm regards
> Anne
>

Hello Anne and all -

Like you all I've been swamped with too much to do but
try my best to keep up.  2 things to tell you.  I've
made contact with Helen Caldicott.  We've now
exchanged number of emails, and she's read my DU
article and liked it very much.  She did say we need
lots more data before we know for sure how deadly DU
spread is to all of planet earth.  I agree but told
her the potential threat is so great we can't wait for
it and must sound the alarm now.  Doing so is like
buying insurance for a fire or accident we hope never
happens.

I told her about CCA but she didn't comment on
becoming a member.  I imagine she's so busy she
doesn't have the time.  I don't want to push it and
for now will let it go.  Maybe bring it up again at
future time.

NO. 2.  I know Dr. Doug Rokke, former director of US
Army depleted uranium project.  I've asked him if he'd
like to join group.  Will let you know what he says.
Also, he just emailed me information pasted below he
asked me to send to everyone concerned about DU.

My best to all,

Steve Lendman


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Please distribute to everyone that you know.

thanks, doug


Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:15:52 EST
From: Dlind49@...
:
http://www.pdhealth.mil/downloads/DU_Clinicians_Guide_09172004.pdf
This sheet on depleted uranium is full of
misinformation and omits all
references to the DU team reports, the DU project, and
simply lies
about our actual
adverse health effects from uranium weapons exposures.

Many of us who are enrolled in the VA DU MEDICAL
PROGRAM HAVE SERIOUS DU
RELATED- DIAGNOSED MEDICAL PROBLEMS.  However, we have
been abandoned.

VA physicians have only tested a few hundred
individuals (Gulf War Review
volume 13, #1, page 12; www.va.gov) out of thousands
who were supposed to
received testing and medical care as required by
numerous orders and
regulations.
The October 1993 DOD DU medical care directive
mandated testing within
24 hours
of initial exposure using the radio-bioassay not
weeks, months, or years later
as done now if done at all. Once this test is done an
extrapolation from
mesured to actual dose must be done too but that has
been ignored.


I recommend that everyone read- study the Pentagon's
own 2002 staff briefing
on adverse health effects of uranium exposures.  If
you have questions just
ask me.

http://www.traprockpeace.org/du_dtic_wakayama_Aug2002.html

DOD, DA, USAF, USN, USMC, USCG, VA, MOD (British), CND
(Canadian), AND
(Australian) and NATO officials have for years
continued with delayed
and denied
care in order to maintain the cover up of the always
known serious
adverse health
and environmental effects and to sustain uranium
weapons use while avoiding
all liability as specified in the March 1991 Los
Alamos memorandum written by
LTC Mike Ziehmn
(http://www.traprockpeace.org/twomemos.html). The
March 1991
memo written by LTC Greg Lyle was also very clear in
citing serious health
risks. I am the Army officer who received these two
directives. LTC Lyle is
correct. However I refused and still refuse to comply
with LTC Ziehmn
directive in
order to sustain uranium weapons use.  As the former
director of the U.S. Army
Depleted Uranium Project, the U.S. Army health
physicist who cleaned up the
mess following Gulf War 1, who recommended the initial
medical care,
and who is
a confirmed DU casualty I am fed up with the continued
lies and refusals by
our leaders to comply with all known provisions of
U.S. Army Regulation
700-48,
LTG Peake's April 29, 2004 order mandating medical
care for all exposed
individuals, and refusals to comply with all of the
numerous medical
orders over the
years.

dr. doug rokke
Major, retired/ disabled, USAR

simply:



Depleted Uranium Situation Requires Action
By President Bush and Prime Minister Blair
Dr. Doug Rokke, Ph.D.
former Director, U.S. Army Depleted Uranium project
January 6, 2006

While U.S. and British military personnel continue
using illegal uranium
munitions- America's and England's own "dirty bombs"
U.S. Army, U.S.
Department
of Energy, and U.S. Department of Defense officials
continue to deny that
there are any adverse health and environmental effects
as a consequence of the
manufacture, testing, and/or use of uranium munitions
to avoid liability for
the willful and illegal dispersal of a radioactive
toxic material - depleted
uranium. They arrogantly refuse to comply with their
own regulations,
orders, and
directives that require United States Department of
Defense officials to
provide prompt and effective medical care "all"
exposed individuals [Medical
Management of Unusual Depleted Uranium Casualties,
DOD, Pentagon,
10/14/93, Medical
Management of Army personnel Exposed to Depleted
Uranium (DU) Headquarters,
U.S. Army Medical Command 29 April 2004), and section
2-5 of AR 70-48]. They
also refuse to clean up dispersed radioactive
Contamination as required
by Army
Regulation- AR 700-48: "Management of Equipment
Contaminated With Depleted
Uranium or Radioactive Commodities" (Headquarters,
Department Of The Army,
Washington, D.C., September 2002) and U.S. Army
Technical Bulletin- TB
9-1300-278:
"Guidelines For Safe Response To Handling, Storage,
And Transportation
Accidents Involving Army Tank Munitions Or Armor Which
Contain Depleted
Uranium"
(Headquarters, Department Of The Army, Washington,
D.C., JULY 1996).
Specifically section 2-4 of United States Army
Regulation-AR 700-48 dated
September 16, 2002 requires that:
(1) "Military personnel "identify, segregate, isolate,
secure, and  label all
RCE" (radiologically contaminated equipment).
(2) "Procedures to minimize the spread of
radioactivity will be implemented
as soon as possible."
(3) "Radioactive material and waste will not be
locally disposed of  through
burial, submersion, incineration, destruction in
place, or abandonment" and
(4) "All equipment, to include captured or combat RCE,
will be surveyed,
packaged, retrograded, decontaminated and released IAW
Technical Bulletin
9-1300-278, DA PAM 700-48" (Note: Maximum exposure
limits are specified
in Appendix F).
The previous and current use of uranium weapons, the
release of radioactive
components in destroyed U.S. and foreign military
equipment, and releases of
industrial, medical, research facility radioactive
materials have resulted in
unacceptable exposures. Therefore, decontamination
must be completed as
required
by U.S. Army Regulation  700-48 and should include
releases of all
radioactive materials resulting from military
operations.  The extent
of adverse health
and environmental effects of uranium weapons
contamination is not limited to combat zones but
includes facilities and
sites where uranium weapons were manufactured or
tested including
Vieques; Puerto
Rico; Colonie, New York; Concord, MA; Jefferson
Proving Grounds, Indiana; and
Schofield Barracks, Hawaii. Therefore medical care
must be provided by the
United States Department of Defense officials to all
individuals
affected by the
manufacturing, testing, and/or use of uranium
munitions. Thorough
environmental remediation also must be completed
without further delay.
   I am amazed that
fourteen years after was asked to clean up the initial
DU mess from Gulf War 1
and over ten years since I finished the depleted
uranium project that United
States Department of Defense officials and others
still attempt to justify
uranium munitions use while ignoring mandatory
requirements.  I am
dismayed that
Department of Defense and Department of Energy
officials and representatives
continue personal attacks aimed to silence or
discredit those of us who are
demanding that medical care be provided to all DU
casualties and that
environmental remediation is completed in compliance
with U.S. Army
Regulation 700-48.
But beyond the ignored mandatory actions the willful
dispersal of tons
of solid
radioactive and chemically toxic waste in the form of
uranium munitions is
illegal
(http://www.traprockpeace.org/karen_parker_du_illegality.pdf)
and just
does not even pass the common sense test and according
to the U.S. Department
of Homeland Security, DHS, is a dirty bomb. DHS issued
"dirty bomb" response
guidelines,
http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/fr-cont.html
, on January 3, 2006 for incidents within the United
States but ignore DOD
use of uranium weapons and existing DOD regulations.
These guidelines
specifically state that: "Characteristics of RDD and
IND Incidents: A
radiological
incident is defined as an event or series of events,
deliberate or accidental,
leading to the release, or potential release, into the
environment of
radioactive
material in sufficient quantity to warrant
consideration of protective
actions. Use of an RDD or IND is an act of terror that
produces a radiological
incident." Thus the use of uranium munitions is "an
act or terror" as
defined by
DHS. Finally continued compliance with the infamous
March 1991 Los Alamos
Memorandum that was issued to ensure continued use of
uranium munitions
can not be
justified.
In conclusion: the President of the United States-
George W. Bush and
The Prime Minister of Great Britain-Tony Blair must
acknowledge and accept
responsibility for willful use of illegal uranium
munitions- their own
"dirty bombs"- resulting in adverse health and
environmental effects.
President Bush and Prime Minister Blair also should
order:
1. medical care for all casualties,
2. thorough environmental remediation,
3. immediate cessation of retaliation against all of
us who demand compliance
with medical care and environmental remediation
requirements,
4. and stop the already illegal the use (UN finding)
of depleted uranium
munitions.

References- these references are copies the actual
regulations and orders and
other pertinent official documents:
http://www.traprockpeace.org/twomemos.html
http://www.traprockpeace.org/rokke_du_3_ques.html
http://www.traprockpeace.org/du_dtic_wakayama_Aug2002.html
http://www.traprockpeace.org/karen_parker_du_illegality.pdf
http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/fr-cont.html
http://cryptome.org/dhs010306.txt

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The arctic is melting largely due to the worlds thirst for oil.

Thanks to Ed Pickersgill for passing this on to the FART list.

http://www.mytown.ca/nordicity/

Tornado watching Dan

Lab rats for sure!
For anyone interested in the Canadian Arctic as it used to be, please
read just about any book by Farley Mowat. People of the Deer is great,
so is West Viking and The Rock Within the Sea.

It's a part of the world not many know about, but he is very familiar
with. A great writer as well as a historian, war hero, and crusader
for the environment.

Dan


--- In ClimateChangeAction@..., Stephen Lendman
<lendmanstephen@s...> wrote:
>
> I agree so much with the notion that all humanity and
> all living species are unwittingly being used as "lab
> rats" in nothing less than a demonic experiment
> guaranteed to result in a bad ending.
>
> I remember how affected I was after reading Rachel
> Carson's remarkable Silent Spring that still sits
> prominantly on my book shelf along with 2 of her other
> books.  Even Jack Kennedy, flawed as he was in too
> many ways to mention, was moved by it and felt
> something had to be done.
>
>  Well, a few laws were passed, the years also passed,
> corporate America became omnipotent and now rules the
> world, and we've sunk deep into a sinkhole we may
> never get out of - and it gets worse every day and no
> one with influence to change things seems to care or
> be willing to even try.
>
> I live in Chicago which along with NY, Wash. and LA I
> call "the heart of the beast."  And I was a small
> businessman for 35 years with many big corporations as
> customers so I feel I know the system a bit from the
> inside.  I'm way outside now and know it damn well
> from that perspective.
>
> It's not the kind of world I like living in or want to
> leave to my kids and grandkids. But I'm over 70 and
> now they've got the residue from my generation to have
> to deal with, and the odds are against them.  All the
> time I think is the human species so fatally flawed
> and unwilling to use its higher intelligence it won't,
> doesn't want to, doesn't care to or doesn't see what's
> happening that's so damn obvious to this simple aging
> guy who sees clearly how we're destroying planet earth
> and ourselves with it.
>
> Steve L
>
> --- Jo Lewis <idg@a...> wrote:
>
> > Sadly the one thing I have heard in recent years
> > about chemical
> > contamination in the Arctic is a report of DDT being
> > present in the
> > breast milk of nursing Inuit mothers. DDT as you
> > probably all know
> > has been outlawed for most uses for many many years
> > although I
> > believe that it is used against the Malaria carrying
> > mosquitos.  It
> > is another one of the persistent chemicals that are
> > concentrated in
> > the food chain and to give an idea of its
> > persistence it was
> > identified as a problem in Rachel Carson's book 'The
> > Silent Spring'
> > some 30 years ago.
> >
> > Chemical pollution is a massive experiment using
> > life on earth as a
> > laboratory and it is likely to prove as big a danger
> > as global
> > warming.
> >
> > At 5:53 PM +0000 2/3/06, Dan Murrray wrote:
> > >Hi Folks,
> > >
> > >Not sure if I've posted this here before, but it's
> > about a dangerous
> > >aspect of global warming combined with pollution. I
> > wrote it for a few
> > >Canadian left wing papers.
> > >
> > >Dan Murray,
> > >member, Peace and Ecology Party (PEP) Canada
> >
> ><http://www.peaceandecology.ca>http://www.peaceandecology.ca
> > >
> >
> >--------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >Hermaphrodite Polar Bears on Thin Ice
> > >Dan Murray
> > >
> > >You'd think that polar bears had it bad enough,
> > with the ice floes
> > >that they travel on  becoming too thin to hold
> > their weight. Global
> > >warming causes many bears to drown every year while
> > hunting seal.
> > >
> > >Now they face a new species endangering problem.
> > Hermaphrodites.
> > >
> > >Hermaphroditism makes reproduction impossible, and
> > scientists say that
> > >one in fifty female polar bears are born with it.
> > Male polar bears are
> > >affected by PCB's, according to a test done on
> > Norwegian polar bears,
> > >their levels of testosterone were significantly
> > altered.  Through
> > >autopsies scientists have discovered that the
> > likely cause in female
> > >bears is a toxin mainly generated by waste from
> > plastics factories
> > >called polybrominated diphenyls or PBDE's, which
> > are likely first
> > >absorbed by fish, then by seals, and then by polar
> > bears.
> > >
> > >Tests on mice have shown that PBDE's attack the
> > thyroid and sex
> > >glands, as well as having a strong effect on motor
> > skills and brain
> > >function.
> > >
> > >Scientists have also observed that the higher these
> > toxins move up the
> > >food chain, the more they increase in strength. In
> > the fatty tissues
> > >of one polar bear they found 71% more PBDE's than
> > in the seals it was
> > >feeding on.
> > >Killer whales in the Arctic are also suffering from
> > increased
> > >toxicity, though as yet there is no evidence of
> > hermaphroditism.
> > >
> > >According to Colin Butfield, a campaign leader for
> > the Worldwide Fund
> > >for Nature, "The Arctic is now a chemical sink."
> > >
> > >The chemicals originate in the industrialized U.S,
> > Canada, and Western
> > >Europe, and are carried north by the wind, or ocean
> > currents until
> > >they eventually make their way to the polar bear,
> > or the whale.
> > >
> > >One thing that is not mentioned in any study I've
> > found is the
> > >possible effect on people who eat a lot of seal.
> > People like the
> > >Inuit, Newfoundlanders, Icelanders, Greenlanders,
> > and Norwegians.
> > >People are at the top of the food chain right along
> > with polar bears,
> > >and people don't have the large levels of fatty
> > tissues that protect
> > >polar bears somewhat except during molting season
> > and breeding season,
> > >when their fatty tissues are absorbed into their
> > blood.
> > >
> > >There's not much we can do about what's already
> > occurred. The only
> > >thing we can do is press for legislation in  the
> > polluting countries,
> > >or identify the major polluters and give them a
> > taste of non-violent
> > >direct action.
> > >
> > >For more information you can contact the World
> > Wildlife Fund of Canada at
> > >
> >
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> > >
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Hiya :-)

I am currently in Brisbane. I attended the meeting at FOE and
brought up the "mission". No takers to join me but very encouraging
feedback. Friends of the Earth, (FOE) are organising a gathering
(along the same lines as my mission) in Alice Springs in June/July.
Will keep the list updated as I hear more. The meeting was attended
by 10 people from various backgrounds. A nuclear "alliance" has been
formed with this group. FOE Brisbane and other groups who attended
donated about 100 assorted anti-nuclear brochures, booklets and
fliers to hand out along the way.

Unfortunately, due to unforseen circumstances, I have found myself
in Brisbane (with my dogs) and having no way to get back to
Bundaberg in the time that I had allocated. I am forced to buy a car
to get back, this purchase will severely effect the funds I would
have used to make the trip. So at this stage, I doubt if I will be
able to follow through, as sad as this makes me feel, I do not
really have much choice.

Perhaps something good will happen, you never know...
I can but hope.

A




--- In ClimateChangeAction@..., "Anne Goddard"
<winter___@d...> wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Anne Goddard
> To: Pat Coleman
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:49 AM
> Subject: Re: top end "mission"... can you help my dog and I to
make a difference to our childrens' future?
>
>
> Pat, please check the Climate Change Action Group (or ring
Natalie), for updates of what i am doing and where I am.. hope you
dont mind but am sending a copy of this to the list so I can track
you down when not at home computer (have scrubbed your home address)
> Cheers
> a
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pat Coleman
> To: winter___@d...
> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 12:37 PM
> Subject: RE: top end "mission"... can you help my dog and I to
make a difference to our childrens' future?
>
>
> Anne , I am moving house , so if you want to catch up , text my
mobile (as the ring wont work ) or use this email which will be
accsessed every cuople of days at the most from the end of this week
begining about wedensday .
>
> Pat
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------
>
>   From:  "Anne Goddard" <winter___@d...>
>   To:  "Group 2" <Depleted_Uranium_Action-acceptsub-
tZY3K1RIlDm=t0f9veQd_hc@...>,"Group 1"
<ClimateChangeAction@...>,<nukefreeaus-
internal@yahoogroups.com>
>   CC:  "Willis, Katrina (Sen B. Brown)"
<Katrina.Willis@a...>,<Redfern-
Waterloo@yahoogroups.com>,<nukefreegathering@yahoogroups.com>,"Hillel
  Freedman" <hillelfreedman@o...>,"climate-change" <climate-
change@yahoogroups.com>,"Benny Zable" <bennyzable@h...>
>   Subject:  top end "mission"... can you help my dog and I to make
a difference to our childrens' future?
>   Date:  Sat, 4 Mar 2006 07:45:03 +1000
>   >Hiya :-)
>   >
>   >It seems to me that it is time for me to try and organise a
trip to the
>   >Northern Territory.
>   >My hope is that others will join me.
>   >I would like to leave fairly soon, and stay as long as it takes
to ensure
>   >that the poison remains where is belongs... in the ground.
>   >
>   >Are there members of this collective (or individuals on cc/bcc)
that would
>   >like to come with me?
>   >
>   >My little car will get me there (just) and I will have the
company of my
>   >dog, Chief, he's a very cool dog. There is room for 3 others, I
can pick
>   >interested persons anywhere between Bundaberg to NT mine(s) and
proposed
>   >waste repository sites. I will going via Townsville. Flexible
date -
>   >hopefully to arrive in Townsville by the 16th of March.
>   >
>   >Warm regards
>   >Anne
>   >reply direct via email, to this list or to either of the lists
below:
>   >
>   >http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/ClimateChangeAction/
>   >http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/Depleted_Uranium_Action/
>   >----------------------------------------------------------------
-----------
>   >fw:   Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:54:38 +1000
>   >    From: "stop foodirradiation" <stopfoodirradiation@h...>
>   >Subject: invite: FoE Bris Anti-nuke collective
>   >
>   >Friends of the Earth Brisbane Anti-Nuclear Collective wants you!
>   >
>   >Join us in saying  NO! to and taking  action about:
>   >
>   >. Uranium mining and waste dumping
>   >. Nuclear ship visits and war games
>   >. Food irradiation
>   >. Nuclear power as a climate change solution
>   >. Depleted uranium
>   >. plus more.....
>   >
>   >Meeting:
>   >When: Tuesday, March 7, 2006
>   >Time:     6:30 pm - supper  provided
>   >Place:     Friends of the Earth Brisbane
>   >              294 Montague Road
>   >              West End, Qld
>   >
>   >For more info:   0411 118 737 or (07) 3846 5793
>   >
>   >
>

I will be offline for a short while, am heading to Brisbane for the meeting
below, hope to bring up my trip to Northern Territory.
a

----------------------------------------------------------------

Please reserve a seat for me :-)
Anne
Bundaberg


Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:54:38 +1000
    From: "stop foodirradiation" <stopfoodirradiation@...>
Subject: invite: FoE Bris Anti-nuke collective

Friends of the Earth Brisbane Anti-Nuclear Collective wants you!

Join us in saying  NO! to and taking  action about:

. Uranium mining and waste dumping
. Nuclear ship visits and war games
. Food irradiation
. Nuclear power as a climate change solution
. Depleted uranium
. plus more.....

Meeting:
When: Tuesday, March 7, 2006
Time:     6:30 pm - supper  provided
Place:     Friends of the Earth Brisbane
              294 Montague Road
              West End, Qld

For more info:   0411 118 737 or (07) 3846 5793

forwarded to CCA

----- Original Message -----
From: "benny zable" <bennyzable@...>
To: <winter___@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 4:53 PM
Subject: RE: top end "mission"... can you help my dog and I to make a
difference to our childrens' future?


Good on you Anne

Here if you do not have, Nats contact who heads the No Nuclear Dump NT
office in Alice Springs.

Keep in touch with her on your mission.

As I said, I am off to Melbourne this month.

All the best

Yours Benny Zable

Hello !

Here are the new contact details for Nat in the Alice Springs
'No Nuclear Dump NT ' office:

email: natwasley@...

ph: 08 8952 2011

mobile : 0429900774

postal: Beyond Nuclear
         Arid Lands Environment Centre (ALEC)
         po box 2796, Alice Springs
         Northern Territory
         Australia  0871

I look forward to working with you all this year and welcome any ideas
and/or visitors !

Nat


>From: "Anne Goddard" <winter___@...>
>To: "Group 2"
><Depleted_Uranium_Action-acceptsub-tZY3K1RIlDm=t0f9veQd_hc@...>,\
"Group
>1"
><ClimateChangeAction@...>,<nukefreeaus-internal@yahoogroups.com>
>CC: "Willis, Katrina (Sen B. Brown)"
><Katrina.Willis@...>,<Redfern-Waterloo@yahoogroups.com>,<nukefreegatheri\
ng@yahoogroups.com>,"Hillel
>Freedman" <hillelfreedman@...>,"climate-change"
><climate-change@yahoogroups.com>,"Benny Zable" <bennyzable@...>
>Subject: top end "mission"... can you help my dog and I to make a
>difference to our childrens' future?
>Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 07:45:03 +1000
>
>Hiya :-)
>
>It seems to me that it is time for me to try and organise a trip to the
>Northern Territory.
>My hope is that others will join me.
>I would like to leave fairly soon, and stay as long as it takes to ensure
>that the poison remains where is belongs... in the ground.
>
>Are there members of this collective (or individuals on cc/bcc)that would
>like to come with me?
>
>My little car will get me there (just) and I will have the company of my
>dog, Chief, he's a very cool dog. There is room for 3 others, I can pick
>interested persons anywhere between Bundaberg to NT mine(s) and proposed
>waste repository sites. I will going via Townsville. Flexible date -
>hopefully to arrive in Townsville by the 16th of March.
>
>Warm regards
>Anne
>reply direct via email, to this list or to either of the lists below:
>
>http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/ClimateChangeAction/
>http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/Depleted_Uranium_Action/
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>fw:   Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:54:38 +1000
>    From: "stop foodirradiation" <stopfoodirradiation@...>
>Subject: invite: FoE Bris Anti-nuke collective
>
>Friends of the Earth Brisbane Anti-Nuclear Collective wants you!
>
>Join us in saying  NO! to and taking  action about:
>
>. Uranium mining and waste dumping
>. Nuclear ship visits and war games
>. Food irradiation
>. Nuclear power as a climate change solution
>. Depleted uranium
>. plus more.....
>
>Meeting:
>When: Tuesday, March 7, 2006
>Time:     6:30 pm - supper  provided
>Place:     Friends of the Earth Brisbane
>              294 Montague Road
>              West End, Qld
>
>For more info:   0411 118 737 or (07) 3846 5793
>
>

I agree so much with the notion that all humanity and
all living species are unwittingly being used as "lab
rats" in nothing less than a demonic experiment
guaranteed to result in a bad ending.

I remember how affected I was after reading Rachel
Carson's remarkable Silent Spring that still sits
prominantly on my book shelf along with 2 of her other
books.  Even Jack Kennedy, flawed as he was in too
many ways to mention, was moved by it and felt
something had to be done.

  Well, a few laws were passed, the years also passed,
corporate America became omnipotent and now rules the
world, and we've sunk deep into a sinkhole we may
never get out of - and it gets worse every day and no
one with influence to change things seems to care or
be willing to even try.

I live in Chicago which along with NY, Wash. and LA I
call "the heart of the beast."  And I was a small
businessman for 35 years with many big corporations as
customers so I feel I know the system a bit from the
inside.  I'm way outside now and know it damn well
from that perspective.

It's not the kind of world I like living in or want to
leave to my kids and grandkids. But I'm over 70 and
now they've got the residue from my generation to have
to deal with, and the odds are against them.  All the
time I think is the human species so fatally flawed
and unwilling to use its higher intelligence it won't,
doesn't want to, doesn't care to or doesn't see what's
happening that's so damn obvious to this simple aging
guy who sees clearly how we're destroying planet earth
and ourselves with it.

Steve L

--- Jo Lewis <idg@...> wrote:

> Sadly the one thing I have heard in recent years
> about chemical
> contamination in the Arctic is a report of DDT being
> present in the
> breast milk of nursing Inuit mothers. DDT as you
> probably all know
> has been outlawed for most uses for many many years
> although I
> believe that it is used against the Malaria carrying
> mosquitos.  It
> is another one of the persistent chemicals that are
> concentrated in
> the food chain and to give an idea of its
> persistence it was
> identified as a problem in Rachel Carson's book 'The
> Silent Spring'
> some 30 years ago.
>
> Chemical pollution is a massive experiment using
> life on earth as a
> laboratory and it is likely to prove as big a danger
> as global
> warming.
>
> At 5:53 PM +0000 2/3/06, Dan Murrray wrote:
> >Hi Folks,
> >
> >Not sure if I've posted this here before, but it's
> about a dangerous
> >aspect of global warming combined with pollution. I
> wrote it for a few
> >Canadian left wing papers.
> >
> >Dan Murray,
> >member, Peace and Ecology Party (PEP) Canada
>
><http://www.peaceandecology.ca>http://www.peaceandecology.ca
> >
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Hermaphrodite Polar Bears on Thin Ice
> >Dan Murray
> >
> >You'd think that polar bears had it bad enough,
> with the ice floes
> >that they travel on  becoming too thin to hold
> their weight. Global
> >warming causes many bears to drown every year while
> hunting seal.
> >
> >Now they face a new species endangering problem.
> Hermaphrodites.
> >
> >Hermaphroditism makes reproduction impossible, and
> scientists say that
> >one in fifty female polar bears are born with it.
> Male polar bears are
> >affected by PCB's, according to a test done on
> Norwegian polar bears,
> >their levels of testosterone were significantly
> altered.  Through
> >autopsies scientists have discovered that the
> likely cause in female
> >bears is a toxin mainly generated by waste from
> plastics factories
> >called polybrominated diphenyls or PBDE's, which
> are likely first
> >absorbed by fish, then by seals, and then by polar
> bears.
> >
> >Tests on mice have shown that PBDE's attack the
> thyroid and sex
> >glands, as well as having a strong effect on motor
> skills and brain
> >function.
> >
> >Scientists have also observed that the higher these
> toxins move up the
> >food chain, the more they increase in strength. In
> the fatty tissues
> >of one polar bear they found 71% more PBDE's than
> in the seals it was
> >feeding on.
> >Killer whales in the Arctic are also suffering from
> increased
> >toxicity, though as yet there is no evidence of
> hermaphroditism.
> >
> >According to Colin Butfield, a campaign leader for
> the Worldwide Fund
> >for Nature, "The Arctic is now a chemical sink."
> >
> >The chemicals originate in the industrialized U.S,
> Canada, and Western
> >Europe, and are carried north by the wind, or ocean
> currents until
> >they eventually make their way to the polar bear,
> or the whale.
> >
> >One thing that is not mentioned in any study I've
> found is the
> >possible effect on people who eat a lot of seal.
> People like the
> >Inuit, Newfoundlanders, Icelanders, Greenlanders,
> and Norwegians.
> >People are at the top of the food chain right along
> with polar bears,
> >and people don't have the large levels of fatty
> tissues that protect
> >polar bears somewhat except during molting season
> and breeding season,
> >when their fatty tissues are absorbed into their
> blood.
> >
> >There's not much we can do about what's already
> occurred. The only
> >thing we can do is press for legislation in  the
> polluting countries,
> >or identify the major polluters and give them a
> taste of non-violent
> >direct action.
> >
> >For more information you can contact the World
> Wildlife Fund of Canada at
> >
>
><http://www.wwf.ca/wwf.asp>http://www.wwf.ca/wwf.asp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >To visit your group on the web, go to:
>
><http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/ClimateChangeAction/>http://au.groups.yahoo.c\
om/group/ClimateChangeAction/
> >
> >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>
><mailto:ClimateChangeAction-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe>\
ClimateChangeAction-unsubscribe@...
> >
> >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the
> ><http://au.docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms
> of Service.
>

Hi Folks,

Not sure if I've posted this here before, but it's about a dangerous
aspect of global warming combined with pollution. I wrote it for a few
Canadian left wing papers.

Dan Murray,
member, Peace and Ecology Party (PEP) Canada
http://www.peaceandecology.ca

--------------------------------------------------------------------

Hermaphrodite Polar Bears on Thin Ice
Dan Murray

You'd think that polar bears had it bad enough, with the ice floes
that they travel on  becoming too thin to hold their weight. Global
warming causes many bears to drown every year while hunting seal.

Now they face a new species endangering problem. Hermaphrodites.

Hermaphroditism makes reproduction impossible, and scientists say that
one in fifty female polar bears are born with it. Male polar bears are
affected by PCB's, according to a test done on Norwegian polar bears,
their levels of testosterone were significantly altered.  Through
autopsies scientists have discovered that the likely cause in female
bears is a toxin mainly generated by waste from plastics factories
called polybrominated diphenyls or PBDE's, which are likely first
absorbed by fish, then by seals, and then by polar bears.

Tests on mice have shown that PBDE's attack the thyroid and sex
glands, as well as having a strong effect on motor skills and brain
function.

Scientists have also observed that the higher these toxins move up the
food chain, the more they increase in strength. In the fatty tissues

of one polar bear they found 71% more PBDE's than in the seals it was

feeding on.

Killer whales in the Arctic are also suffering from increased
toxicity, though as yet there is no evidence of hermaphroditism.

According to Colin Butfield, a campaign leader for the Worldwide Fund
for Nature, "The Arctic is now a chemical sink."

The chemicals originate in the industrialized U.S, Canada, and Western
Europe, and are carried north by the wind, or ocean currents until
they eventually make their way to the polar bear, or the whale.

One thing that is not mentioned in any study I've found is the
possible effect on people who eat a lot of seal.  People like the
Inuit, Newfoundlanders, Icelanders, Greenlanders, and Norwegians.
People are at the top of the food chain right along with polar bears,
and people don't have the large levels of fatty tissues that protect
polar bears somewhat except during molting season and breeding season,
when their fatty tissues are absorbed into their blood.

There's not much we can do about what's already occurred. The only
thing we can do is press for legislation in  the polluting countries,
or identify the major polluters and give them a taste of non-violent
direct action.

For more information you can contact the World Wildlife Fund of Canada at

http://www.wwf.ca/wwf.asp

Yahoo! Groups Links

• To visit your group on the web, go to:
  http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/ClimateChangeAction/
   
• To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
  ClimateChangeAction-unsubscribe@...
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• Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

Hiya :-)

It seems to me that it is time for me to try and organise a trip to the
Northern Territory.
My hope is that others will join me.
I would like to leave fairly soon, and stay as long as it takes to ensure
that the poison remains where is belongs... in the ground.

Are there members of this collective (or individuals on cc/bcc)that would
like to come with me?

My little car will get me there (just) and I will have the company of my
dog, Chief, he's a very cool dog. There is room for 3 others, I can pick
interested persons anywhere between Bundaberg to NT mine(s) and proposed
waste repository sites. I will going via Townsville. Flexible date -
hopefully to arrive in Townsville by the 16th of March.

Warm regards
Anne
reply direct via email, to this list or to either of the lists below:

http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/ClimateChangeAction/
http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/Depleted_Uranium_Action/
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
fw:   Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:54:38 +1000
    From: "stop foodirradiation" <stopfoodirradiation@...>
Subject: invite: FoE Bris Anti-nuke collective

Friends of the Earth Brisbane Anti-Nuclear Collective wants you!

Join us in saying  NO! to and taking  action about:

. Uranium mining and waste dumping
. Nuclear ship visits and war games
. Food irradiation
. Nuclear power as a climate change solution
. Depleted uranium
. plus more.....

Meeting:
When: Tuesday, March 7, 2006
Time:     6:30 pm - supper  provided
Place:     Friends of the Earth Brisbane
              294 Montague Road
              West End, Qld

For more info:   0411 118 737 or (07) 3846 5793

Hi All,

I am new to this group but am concern of what is happening to our
earth. I am interested to understand what is happening around the
world in the combat against climate change in regards to waste
management.

There are many activities on waste reduction throughout the world.
However, there is a confusion between waste avoidance, reduction,
elimination against waste recycling and recovery.

I am an inventor and had started working on waste after my first
invention that eliminate the collection of household kitchen waste
through a natural process without the release of green house gases.

As I review further into the waste management practices in most
countries, I noticed that there is a trend of governments and
organisations accepting recycling and recovery as a means to manage
our present waste.

Personally, I feel that this is incorrect. What do you think?

Should waste be avoided or should it be allowed to generate and be
worked on to elimate it?

Let me give you an example.

We purchase milk from the supermarket already packed in plastic
bottles. We drink the milk and throw away the bottles that was once
manufactured* and now need to be collected*, process in recycling
plant*, reused to manufacture other bottles* and the cycle continue.
The above words with * indicates that there are cost incurred in
each function. Conclusion - waste generated and recycled

OR

We purchase milk that is dispensed from a main container from the
supermarket into our personal milk bottle. Drink the milk and rinse
the bottle to be resued in future purchase of milk. Conclusion - no
waste generated.

There are many ways of generating no waste in our daily life, what
is your personal approach?

Regards,
David

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4759298.stm

Consumers 'will pay nuclear bill'

Electricity bills will have to go up if the government builds a new
generation of nuclear power stations, the Green Party has warned.

It claims the government is determined to push ahead with nuclear power
despite evidence it is uneconomic.

The government says it is considering nuclear as part of an energy review
but has not yet made up its mind.

The report comes as Tony Blair admitted there was a "long way to go" to
tackle climate change.

'Not pre-ordained'

The government sees new nuclear plants as a "carbon-free" alternative to
coal and oil - and a more secure source of energy than gas supplied by
foreign states such as Russia, as North Sea supplies dwindle.

But the DTI insists its current policy review, which is being carried out by
energy minister Malcolm Wicks is "not a foregone conclusion".

"It is not a bogus review and there isn't a conclusion that is
pre-ordained," a spokesman told the BBC News Website.

The review is looking at both sides of the argument, he added, including the
issue of nuclear waste, the costs involved and "public concerns around
security".

It is also looking at ways of increasing renewable energy sources, already
the subject of major investment by the government, he added.

But the Green Party says its "alternative energy review" looks at measures
not being considered by the government.

'Inferior choice'

Green Party principal speaker Caroline Lucas MEP said: "Tony Blair is
determined to push this country down the nuclear route, based on two
arguments: guaranteeing affordable energy supply, and reducing carbon
emissions.

"The Alternative Energy Review proves what anti-nuclear campaigners have
long suspected - that, even using these criteria, nuclear power is the
inferior choice.

"It shows that a twin-pronged investment in renewable alternatives and
energy efficiency and conservation measures will not only deliver greater
emissions reductions than nuclear power, it will deliver them more cheaply,
and all without the huge safety risks inherent in the nuclear option."

The co-author of the Green Party report, Dr David Toke, said talk of a
looming energy gap as North Sea oil runs out had been exaggerated and
ministers had been swayed by the powerful and well-funded nuclear lobby.

'Stand-by'

He said there should be a centrally-organised programme of "demand
reduction" - forcing companies to cut their use of electricity use through
better efficiency.

Far more wind farms should also be built, he argued, and electronics
companies should be fined if they did not scrap the "stand-by" button on
computers and televisions, which he said was a major drain on energy
supplies.

All of these measures meant consumers would pay less for their electricity,
even if it meant possible increases in costs associated with energy
efficiency, he told reporters.

"Do people want to pay more for nuclear power that will increase their
bills, or do they want to pay for energy efficiencies that will reduce their
bills?," he asked.

The Lib Dems have also attacked nuclear power for being uneconomic.

The Conservatives are currently reviewing their energy policy. Zac
Goldsmith, deputy chair of the party's environment policy review, due to
report in 18 months time, is strongly opposed to it.

Earlier on Tuesday, Mr Blair acknowledged there was still a "long way to go"
to tackle climate change and pledged to work hard with other European
leaders to extend the Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) beyond 2012.

He said the ETS must be more robust and he hoped there would be agreement on
a range of new measures to increase energy efficiency.

He made his pledge as he met green umbrella group "Stop Climate Chaos" in
Downing Street.

The government's advisory body on the environment, the Sustainable
Development Commission, is due to release its advice on nuclear power on
Monday, following a year-long investigation.


             www.bluegreenearth.com / www.europeansocialecologyinstitute.org
   global community, ecological, environmental and social
reportage, opinion and analysis + news, views and facts

http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,1719608,00.html
David Adam, environment correspondent
Tuesday February 28, 2006
The Guardian

Anne,

in future (and I think this is one way we can be active) - the link to write
letters (which I tried) is found by moving the mouse to the News menu and then
scroll down to letters.  There is an email link on the RHS of the page!

Cheers

Mick...



> Anne Goddard <winter___@...> wrote:
>
> Re: [ClimateChangeAction] Headline - A debate beggingHi JoL
>
> I wanted to shed some light on the SMH, so i registered and tried to
> find a comments page, but came up empty handed.
>
> If there is someone begging for some "factual, scientific, reality, and
> "real light" plus Action, viable alternatves, and more.. "names" on this
> issue. It is all right here in the posts and files of this little group.
> As we can't go to them, i guess their editors will have to come to us.
> Shame about their readers... I am sure they have had enough of the
> bullshit too.
>
> :-)
> welcome
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: JoL
> To: ClimateChangeAction@...
> Cc: Mick Pope
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [ClimateChangeAction] Headline - A debate begging for more
> light
>
>
> This article by Miranda Divine uses quotes from the Laviosier Group of
> climate sceptics to downplay the risks associated with climate change.
> FYI this group is industry funded and was established by mining magnate
> Hugh Morgan - tainted at best by vested interests.
>
>
> She also talks about computer modelling being an inexact science and of
> course it is, but it becomes more accurate every time a parameter is
> confirmed by hard data - which is why the models are constantly being
> refined.
>
>
> JoL
>
>
> At 3:11 PM +1100 2/3/06, Mick Pope wrote:
>   Dear Climatechangeaction,
>
>   You have been sent this article link by Mick Pope courtesy of
> smh.com.au
>
>   Personal Message: Usual Right wind nonsense!
>
>   A debate begging for more light
>
>   March 2, 2006
>
>   To view the entire article, click on:
> http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/03/01/1141191731122.html
>
>
>   Sign up for news updates from The Sydney Morning Herald newsroom
> emailed each morning and afternoon:
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>
>
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>
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My letter didn't get published!  :(  For what it is worth - here's what I sent. 
At least it is heartening that there were many other responses.

Ms Divine's piece on climate change sheds more darkness than light on the issue.
The
IPCC's conclusions are the result of considering the entirety of the relevant
peer
reviewed literature.  That the conclusions it has reached in the past have been
so
circumspect is testimony to this fact, notwithstanding the fact that governments
are
involved in the process for the second order drafts.  The change in tone between
the second
and third assessments therefore reflects a greater consensus between experts. 
If skeptics
make valid points as opposed to industry funded noise, their work inevitably
helps to refine
the consensus, but it has not invalidated it.

Her point about garbage in garbage out well taken, it is telling that as
scientific
understanding improves, the models continue to forecast global warming due to
greenhouse
gases from human sources.  Much of the uncertainty comes not simply from the
science behind
the models but the scenarios of greenhouse gas emissions, which as she rather
sarcastically
notes, is within our power to limit by driving hybrid cars, using energy
efficient bulbs and
investing in alternate energy.  This would not be in the interests of the
Lavoisier Group,
given their connections to traditional forms of energy.



> JoL <idg@...> wrote:
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> of course it is, but it becomes more accurate every time a parameter
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Hi Folks,

Not sure if I've posted this here before, but it's about a dangerous
aspect of global warming combined with pollution. I wrote it for a few
Canadian left wing papers.

Dan Murray,
member, Peace and Ecology Party (PEP) Canada
http://www.peaceandecology.ca

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Hermaphrodite Polar Bears on Thin Ice
Dan Murray

You'd think that polar bears had it bad enough, with the ice floes
that they travel on  becoming too thin to hold their weight. Global
warming causes many bears to drown every year while hunting seal.

Now they face a new species endangering problem. Hermaphrodites.

Hermaphroditism makes reproduction impossible, and scientists say that
one in fifty female polar bears are born with it. Male polar bears are
affected by PCB's, according to a test done on Norwegian polar bears,
their levels of testosterone were significantly altered.  Through
autopsies scientists have discovered that the likely cause in female
bears is a toxin mainly generated by waste from plastics factories
called polybrominated diphenyls or PBDE's, which are likely first
absorbed by fish, then by seals, and then by polar bears.

Tests on mice have shown that PBDE's attack the thyroid and sex
glands, as well as having a strong effect on motor skills and brain
function.

Scientists have also observed that the higher these toxins move up the
food chain, the more they increase in strength. In the fatty tissues
of one polar bear they found 71% more PBDE's than in the seals it was
feeding on.
Killer whales in the Arctic are also suffering from increased
toxicity, though as yet there is no evidence of hermaphroditism.

According to Colin Butfield, a campaign leader for the Worldwide Fund
for Nature, "The Arctic is now a chemical sink."

The chemicals originate in the industrialized U.S, Canada, and Western
Europe, and are carried north by the wind, or ocean currents until
they eventually make their way to the polar bear, or the whale.

One thing that is not mentioned in any study I've found is the
possible effect on people who eat a lot of seal.  People like the
Inuit, Newfoundlanders, Icelanders, Greenlanders, and Norwegians.
People are at the top of the food chain right along with polar bears,
and people don't have the large levels of fatty tissues that protect
polar bears somewhat except during molting season and breeding season,
when their fatty tissues are absorbed into their blood.

There's not much we can do about what's already occurred. The only
thing we can do is press for legislation in  the polluting countries,
or identify the major polluters and give them a taste of non-violent
direct action.

For more information you can contact the World Wildlife Fund of Canada at

http://www.wwf.ca/wwf.asp

10 protestors... I would like to see thousands...
I think i will have to join those 10.
Hows your suit holding out Benny? My leg cast, overalls and crutches are
getting "itchy".

read on :-)
----------------------
forward From Benny Zable

Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: Imprint standard reward, Nuclear power opponents urged to
reconsider stance


Dear All
The current standard for measuring worth of work is against gold and the US
dollar.
I see these currency standards the base line problem effecting lifestyle and
life on Earth.
It rewards greed and power that sacrifices the well being of our
environment.

There is a need  for a standard that encourages people that live lightly on
the Earth, A measures that penalizes human impact against the nurturing well
being of life on Earth.
Rewards are for those who contribute to the well being of life.
Penalties for mining and weapon producing industries which does not reward
polluters.
As long as our measure is driven for profit, life on Earth and our species
are doomed.

Does the Greens have a policy on this issue?

Mining Uranium because its profitable is a problem because of this current
standard. The history of the gold standard is one based on the destruction
of environments and earth based cultures throughout the world. Please let us
discuss this issue.
Looking forward to hearing from you/s

Yours Benny Zable
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From: Michaela Stubbs <michaela.stubbs@>
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: news on nukes
Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2006 5:59:45 PM

ABC Online <http://abc.net.au/>

*ABC Online <http://abc.net.au/>*

*Nuclear power opponents urged to reconsider stance. 28/02/2006. ABC News
Online*

[This is the print version of story
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200602/s1580489.htm]

*Last Update:* Tuesday, February 28, 2006. 5:03pm (AEDT)

Nuclear power opponents urged to reconsider stance

The Northern Territory Minerals Council (NTMC) has urged those opposed to
nuclear power to consider its economic and environmental benefits.

NTMC spokeswoman Kezia Purick was speaking from a mining industry seminar in
Darwin, where protesters have gathered to demonstrate against uranium mining
and nuclear power.

Ms Purick says about 30 companies have uranium exploration licenses for the
Northern Territory and she hopes they start looking for the resource soon.

She says the anti-uranium lobby should look to the future.

"What I say to the protesters is they should really get part of the
evolution - and not keep themselves stuck in with the arguments of the 1950s
and the 1960s - because industry has come a long way since that point of
time," she said.

"Advanced technologies and the technologies of uranium mining and milling in
Australia are highly sought after on an international level."


*Uranium part of our future*
By NIGEL ADLAM
01mar06 NT NEWS

UP TO five new uranium mines could open in the Territory over the next
decade, a nuclear seminar was told yesterday.

Several speakers said the NT was on the verge of an unprecedented uranium
boom.

Minerals Council chief executive Kezia Purick said the NT had abundant
uranium reserves and was well placed to meet global nuclear energy needs.

She said it was important Australia sold uranium only to signatories of the
nuclear non-proliferation agreement.

About 10 demonstrators gathered outside the seminar at the SkyCity Casino in
Darwin.

NT Senator Trish Crossin said from Canberra yesterday Australia's nuclear
regulator had hampered the right of Territorians to have a say on the
nuclear waste facility planned for the NT.

She said the guidelines for the depository were ``virtually buried'' by
being released for public comment six days before Christmas.

Senator Crossin said the Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety
Agency had not tried to get any publicity to encourage public comment.

She said a Senate estimates hearing had been told by officers of the
department responsible for the waste facility that an evaporation pond for
run-off from radioactive containers would be needed in the compound.

``This would be especially concerning in an arid area where a pond would
attract wildlife ranging from insects and lizards to birds, which form part
of the bush tucker food chain.''

She said the pond, a significant part of the dumps infrastructure is not
shown on any diagrams, videos displayed at public meetings or on the dump or
on the federal governments radioactive waste website.

The deadline for NT guidelines submissions is March 17.

*Uranium production set to rise*

01mar06 The Courier Mail

AUSTRALIA'S uranium production is tipped to record an 8 per cent increase in
2005-06 to almost 12,000 tonnes on the back of higher output from BHP
Billiton's Olympic Dam mine and Energy Resources of Australia's (ERA) Ranger
mine.

Export earnings for uranium are forecast to increase 50 per cent this year
to $712 million through higher export prices.

Uranium prices increased strongly in 2005, as the dwindling supply of
uranium stocks and increased concerns over the future supply of secondary
sources of uranium were the major factors behind the substantial increase in
uranium prices.

All of Australia's production of U3O8 is exported.

Australia has only three uranium mines currently operating - BHP Billiton's
Olympic Dam mine in South Australia; ERA's Ranger mine in the Northern
Territory; and Heathgates Beverley mine, also in South Australia.

In late October 2005, ERA extended the operational life of the Ranger mine
by three years. While mining activities at Ranger are still expected to
finish in 2008, processing will now continue until 2014.

The spot uranium price in 2006 is forecast to increase by 34 per cent to
average over $US38 a pound. Despite this, world uranium mine production is
forecast to increase by only 1 per cent in 2006.

This reflects the substantial lead time required to bring new developments
on stream. From 2007 world uranium prices in real terms are forecast to
decline as strong growth in world mine production and relatively steady
supplies of secondary uranium ease concerns about supply availability over
the remainder of the outlook period to 2011.

In 2011, uranium prices (in 2005 dollars) are projected to be about $US29 a
pound.

Hi Anne and all -

I'd like to share my latest article with you all just
finished this morning.  It's not on climate related
issue except only indirectly from the plunder of the
poorest country in the Americas - Haiti.  I had to
write on Haiti - post election, my 3rd article on the
country.  The corporate media here is mercilessly
assaulting the winner, Rene Preval.  My article is a
counter to them - telling the truth to counter their
lies.  Hope you like it.

Best,

Steve


CLOSING HAITI'S "OPEN VEINS" - RENE PREVAL'S
IMPOSSIBLE MISSION - by Stephen Lendman

On February 7, 2006 (and with due homage to the great
Uruguayan writer Eduardo Galeano) the people of Haiti
were not to be denied.  Few people anywhere have
endured more oppression and human misery or for a
longer period of time (with all too few periods of
relief).  In spite of an election process
orchestrated, controlled and shamelessly rigged by an
interim puppet government (the IGH) and an oppressive
occupying force (UN Blue Helmets supposedly there to
maintain order and protect them), they overcame
overwhelming obstacles and elected Rene Preval for the
second time as their President (his first time in
office was from 1996-2000).  It's no secret that the
real power calling the shots in Haiti is not in
Port-au-Prince.  It's in Washington making policy,
giving orders and letting its approved proxies do its
bidding, which has been bloody and brutal since US
Marines in the dead of night kidnapped and deposed
democratically elected President Jean-Bertrand
Aristide at gunpoint in February, 2004.

In a normal country with a tradition of stability and
democracy (or any one for that matter) the election of
the peoples' choice would be a cause for celebration.
Indeed for the first time in the past 2 years the
Haitian people are celebrating and hope finally for an
end to the nightmare they've been through.  But
nothing is ever simple in Haiti, a country that for
over 500 years has had very few periods of stability
free from the oppressive heel of a foreign occupier or
repressive dictatorship. They never had a real
democracy until the election of Jean-Bertand Aristide
in 1991.  Two US led, directed or authorized coups
later (both against President Aristide), they have one
again at least in the office of president.  But do
they really have good reason to rejoice?

Before continuing I must point out that until February
7 Jean-Bertand Aristide was still Haiti's
democratically elected President.  It's a valid
argument to say he's entitled to remain so for the
remainder of the time he lost, but he graciously never
requested it and now calls Rene Preval "my President."
  The benighted Haitian people loved Aristide, called
him their President and want and expect him to return.
  They now have every reason to feel the oddest
combination of joy and fear as they await future
events to unfold without knowing what will haappen.

From behind the scenes, the Washington Chimeres, led
by the Haiti Democracy Project (HDP), that is
umbilically linked to the US State Department, and its
former member and now acting US ambassador Timothy
Carney are already sharpening their long knives and
beginning their demonization and destabilization
campaign to undermine the Preval administration even
before it begins.  They hope to render it stillborn or
at least so falsely tarnished and weakened by a
torrent of propaganda it will be unable to function
effectively.  And if doesn't, they'll blame it on him.

HDP works in conjunction with the so-called Democratic
Convergence (DC) of about 200 Haitian political
organizations.  The DC, in turn, works cooperatively
with The Group of 184 Civil Society Organizations
(including Haiti's business elites) headed by Haiti's
leading industrialist and sweatshop owner, Andy Apaid.
  These organizations are funded by the notorious US
National Endowment of Democracy (NED), the
International Republican Institute (IRI - an arm of
NED) and the US Agency for International Development
(USAID).  These federally funded US organizations
function to serve US interests in other countries.
They're an arm of US foreign policy in those states
not firmly established as reliable "clients" or "at
risk" of ending that status.  It's their job to
support US-friendly regimes and try to undermine those
that are not - like Lavalas, Aristide and Preval in
Haiti.

It's a wonder Preval got to run at all or was even
allowed to, as in the last 2 years the UN Blue Helmets
(MINUSTAH) and brutal Haitian National Police (PNH)
conducted a systematic reign of terror against the
Lavalas party and everyone associated with it.  They
either murdered, imprisoned or forced into exile or
hiding its members, effectively destroying it.  There
were some who believed that since Rene Preval escaped
this fate, it meant he'd been co-opted and convinced
to desert his former party and allies and join with
those in the interim ruling junta.  That suspicion
(unproven, of course, and hopefully untrue) only grew
as the most beloved and popular man still in Haiti,
Father Gerard Jean-Juste, was falsely imprisoned
without charge to prevent his inclusion in the
election as the candidate the people most wanted.
Father "Gerry", as he's affectionately known, did not
run and while incarcerated was diagnosed with serious
but still treatable leukemia, finally released after a
long campaign on his behalf, and is now receiving
medical care in Florida.

THE DISINFORMATION BEGINS WITH THE USUAL COMPLICITY OF
THE CORPORATE MEDIA

We're only in the early stages of the US controlled
anti-Preval campaign, but it's easy to know where it's
going.  It's already getting loud and vicious and is
being echoed throughout the complicit corporate media.
  President Aristide endured a torrent of hate and
vitriol during both his 2 terms as President because
he dared to deviate from the US script that demanded
his full obedience to its dictates.  Aristide had more
noble ideas.  He was determined as best he could to
help the 80% or more desperately poor and
disadvantaged Haitians try to improve their lives.
Because of this he was labeled the "fiery slum
priest", a demonic and despotic one and much more.
None of it was true, and despite all the US imposed
obstacles and hostility he faced, Aristide sought to
serve the interests of his people rather than those of
his dominant northern neighbor.  He did a splendid job
of it with limited resources, which I documented in an
earlier article.

But that policy by any nation in the Global South is
always unacceptable to the US, the giant transnational
corporations whose interests it serves, and in Haiti,
its elite junior business partners.  Their plan is to
return this nation of 8.5 million people, the poorest
in the Americas, to its pre-Aristide status of virtual
serfdom and a de facto US colony permanently.  And so
far they've done it by turning the country into a
killing field.  But now with a new president who once
before worked for the people, ordinary Haitians hope
their nightmare will end, order will be restored along
with their Lavalas instituted social gains that were
ended after the 2004 coup, and they can get on with
their lives.

The US iron grip over the country's politics will do
everything possible to prevent that normalcy from ever
returning to Haiti.  And the US corporate media is
playing its business as usual part to help guarantee
it won't.  It's unleashed a storm of anti-Preval
propaganda, disinformation and demonization in the
aftermath of the February 7 election.  It began by
playing the old game of "blame the victim."  Although
the US and its obedient proxies shamelessly controlled
and rigged the election and still failed to have it
come out their way, they're blaming Preval for the
flawed process and electoral fraud.  Neither he, any
Lavalas remnants or ordinary poor Haitians had
anything to do with burning ballots, hiding them,
destroying tally sheets or stuffing ballot boxes with
blank ballots.  Nor did they decide to reduce the
number of polling stations from 12,000 in 2000 to
about 800 or less this year.  And the ones they
eliminated were where the majority of poor Haitians
lived in rural areas as well as urban
Lavalas/Aristide/Preval strongholds like Cite Soleil
where they had NONE AT ALL.

SOME CHOICE EXAMPLES OF HOW THE CORPORATE MEDIA
REPORTS THE NEWS

The inglorious New York Times always is the lead
"attack dog" and echo chamber for US policy, and they
began the assault by accusing Preval of causing "the
devastating hostilities between the rich and the poor"
and that he had to repair it.  The NYT went on
challenge Preval reporting that "he....faces questions
about the legitimacy of the back-room deal brokered by
foreign diplomats that ended the possibility of a
runoff and made him the victor......"  The Times
failed to report that Aristide was reelected President
in 2000 with 92% of the vote, and Rene Preval was
elected President in 1996 with 88% of the vote - both
elections judged free and fair.  If anything close to
a fair election had been held in February, Preval
again would have easily won by an overwhelming
landslide.  Of course, the US knew that and had to
assure it didn't happen.

The far right, one-sided, corporate America uber
alles, often hate-spewing editorial page of the Wall
Street Journal added their own special flavor of
vitriol to the mix when they wrote about "armed gangs"
and that "The pro-Aristide gangs began ginning up
violence when it became apparent that Mr. Preval might
not be installed without a run-off election."  It
hardly mattered to their editorial writer (the news
sections of the paper are far more balanced and often
credible) that their statement was false and reckless,
and they knew it.  They had to know as there wasn't a
shred of evidence of any violence by Haiti's poor even
by the 5,000 who went to the Montana hotel, swam in
its pool, behaved peacefully and then left after
making their point.  Archbishop Desmond Tutu was a
guest at the hotel, saw what happened and said not one
item was broken or stolen - pretty remarkable for a
crowd of that size that had every reason to be very
angry.

The Los Angeles Times was about as brazen quoting
Lionel Delatour, a board member of the US connected
Haiti Democracy Project and the notorious Group of 184
  complicit in the 2004 coup, threatening Preval with
his comment that "If he does try to bring Aristide
back, Preval will NOT FINISH his presidency."  The LA
Times never reported that Haitian law guarantees the
right of all its citizens to travel or live abroad and
freely return to the country.  It also failed to
report that international law and major human rights
instruments including the Universal Declaration of
Human Rights, the Fourth Geneva Convention, the Hague
Convention and the International Covenant on Civil and
Political Rights all affirm the right of return.

More anti-Preval abuse was piled on by the Miami
Herald that quoted Jacques Bernard, illegally
appointed Executive Director (Haitian law recognizes
no such position) of the Provisional Electoral Council
or CEP by US appointed puppet interim Prime Minister
Gerard Latortue, saying "the president elect and
others manipulated ballot counting changes."  The
story never explained that the CEP was in charge of
vote counting and while it was ongoing Preval was in
Marmalade at his mountain home and had nothing to do
with it or with the "tensions" that caused the Haitian
people to take to the streets (peacefully) and demand
their votes be counted by the CEP and not be thrown
out at the CEP Tabulation Center in Port-au-Prince or
put in the nearest dump site.

Even some in the so-called progressive media have lost
  their moorings and have now become as corrupted as
the corporate media on some crucial issues. Witness
the venerable Nation Magazine, the oldest continuously
published magazine in the country which first came out
in1865, the year the Civil War ended.  They were wrong
and failed their readers when they supported the
Afghan war after 9/11, and several of their regulars
supported the Iraq war at least up to the time it
began.  They also ran a repugnant racist full page ad
in their January 9/16, 2006 issue entitled "Arabian
Fables" which outrageously implied Palestinians are
prone to violence and deception, and there can be no
peaceful, diplomatic resolution to the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict.  In response to volumes
of justifiable complaints, The Nation replied with an
unacceptable weak-kneed op-ed piece claiming political
advertising was protected by the First Amendment.
Sound familiar?  The recent demonizing "cartoons" in
European newspapers portraying a blasphemous image of
the Prophet Mohammed claimed the same right.  Don't
hatemongers always do that?

Now The Nation is at it again, this time on the Haiti
election and its aftermath.  In their March 13 issue
in an article entitled The Fight for Haiti, author
Kathie Klarreich writes about an "enigmatic" nation.
"Guns had gone underground, kidnappings had stopped
and Port-au-Prince streets that had resembled target
practice became accessible......."  I know much about
Haitian history up to the present and find nothing
about it "enigmatic", and her implication from the
above quote is that the Haitian people had the guns
and used them for target practice - a classic example
of blame the victim journalism when the Haitian people
themselves were the frequent targets and still are.
The writing that follows is full of disgraceful
innuendo, omissions of truth or outright lies - so
many space won't allow to list them all.  But I'll
settle for the writer's failure to acknowledge the
coup ousting Aristide in 2004, ignoring the flagrant
CEP electoral rigging and vote counting fraud and then
stating Preval was declared the winner by a "technical
decision"......reigniting the celebratory pumping and
gyrating."  Is she implying the people are animals and
acted as such?  She also outrageously claimed Aristide
although "wildly popular" is also "feared and
despised."  By whom outside the Haitian elite?  Is the
writer unaware he was reelected in 2000 with 92% of
the vote in a fair election?  She then claims it's up
to Rene Preval to heal the breach he never opened and
"negotiate a detente with an actively hostile
opposition, a wary international community and armed
supporters......and demonstrate that he is no longer
Aristide's twin" (read: abandon the people who elected
him and surrender to the demands of the Haitian elite,
the international lending agencies and their dominant
neighbor from el norte).

Readers should take note of Ms. Klarreich's
interesting credentials.  She's written for the New
York Times, Christian Science Monitor and continues
writing about Haiti for the Miami Herald, Time
Magazine and the CSM.  She's also reported for NBC,
CNN, ABC, CBC, PBS and NPR.  Any of those names sound
familiar?  Is it clear what their agenda is? I'll get
to NPR below (PBS is no different, but I didn't
discuss their reporting).

There were many other delicious corporate media gems
by other publications including those saying Preval's
victory is compromised by his connection to the people
of Haiti, Lavalas, Aristide, and that he champions the
poor.  Imagine the "audacity" of an elected president
caring about the most desperate and disadvantaged
people in his country.  And it takes a leap of
chutzpah for an AP reporter to write that "Opponents
of Haiti's president-elect could use the country's
disputed election result to try and weaken his
government if he doesn't perform" (read once again:
serve the interests of corporate America and Haiti
and, of course, the dictates of the IMF and World Bank
and not the people who elected him).

None of these accounts even hinted there'd been a 2004
coup, 7,000 democratically elected and appointed
officials were forcibly removed from office, 10,000
Haitians were  murdered by the combined forces of all
US proxies (including UN Blue Helmets), 1,000 were
imprisoned and are still in jail as political
prisoners for the crime of freedom-fighting, 100,000
became internal refugees and 20,000 more went into
exile while countless others tried to flee by sea but
drowned in the attempt, Cite Soleil and Bel Air were
turned into West Bank or Gaza type open air prisons,
other prisons with walls and bars were established to
house Haiti's poor, and the brutal and hated Haitian
military was partly and unofficially reconstituted and
given 10 years back pay while their victims suffer,
starve and are denied any justice.  They also never
reported that after the 2004 coup the US puppet
government looted the Presidential Palace, burned
museums, shut down radio and TV stations and
terrorized the whole country.  I guess they thought
all of the above was of no consequence.

Even at this early stage, there's almost no limit to
the volume of anti-Preval rhetoric from the dominant
and hostile US corporate media.  But I've saved the
best (in my judgment) for last.  It's the case of
Amelia Shaw, the Voice of America (VOA) propagandist
now on the payroll and posing or assigned new duties
as a "reporter" for National Public Radio (NPR).  She
also does double duty for the "venerable" BBC.  Anyone
with some knowledge of what's really happening in
Haiti will have a hard time keeping down their
breakfast listening to her reports.  They ooze with a
stream of deliberate and malicious lies and deceit
from so-called "public" radio.  NPR is nothing of the
sort, of course, as they long ago abandoned us, the
public, to become just another voice as a member in
good standing in the corporate media.  And they've got
the big bucks corporate funding to prove it. Their
current president and CEO Kevin Klose, in fact, is the
former director of all the major worldwide US
government broadcast media including VOA, Radio
Liberty,  Radio Free Europe and the anti-Castro Radio
Marti.  In other words, he was the head of all US
worldwide propaganda making him an ideal choice for a
comparable job at NPR, the "peoples' radio" that never
met a US instigated war it didn't love.

Amelia's work is little more than a series of
diatribes against President Aristide, Lavalas and past
and now President-elect Rene Preval.  In recent
reports she falsely claimed Aristide as President
ordered hired assassins to murder Preval's sister (the
attempt failed).  And in another report she made the
most breathtaking comment that the people of Haiti
yearned for the days of Duvalier rule.  The Duvaliers
("Papa Doc" and "Baby Doc") ruled the country as a
reviled and hated brutal dictatorship.  The people of
Haiti rejoiced when their reign of terror finally
ended.  It's hard to believe even NPR would allow such
"rot" on their airwaves when under Duvalier rule over
30 bloodstained years as many as 60,000 Haitians were
murdered by the state.  No one knows for sure the
exact number, except maybe those still around
associated with the killers. "Papa Doc" was once a
practicing physician, but apparently he never learned
or took seriously the implied message from the sacred
Hippocratic Oath to do no harm.

RENE PREVAL'S IMPOSSIBLE MISSION

Governing Haiti under the best of conditions would be
a task to challenge the patience of Job, require the
wisdom of Solomon and have the luck of a "riverboat
gambler" on his best day.  But the way things are now
as Rene Preval prepares to do it, he may be lucky just
to stay alive and keep his sanity and blood pressure
under control.  On day one in office he'll be
virtually alone trying to govern a country still run
by criminals under the aegis and with full support of
the US.  The Haitian peoples' leaders and advocates
are in exile, prison or are dead, the country is in
desperate need of development, and at least 80% of the
people are in an even more desperate state but hoping
Rene will be their savior.  Those people need
everything including food for their next meal.

The knowledgeable, thoughtful and keen observer of
events in Haiti for many years, John Maxwell, wrote
just before the 2004 coup how abused this small
country (3 times the size of Los Angeles) and its
people have been for so many years.  Referring only to
the 20th century (he might have included 4 others) he
wrote:  "The.........story of Haiti is one of economic
and social strip-mining, of rapacious exploitation on
a scale that is almost incomprehensible (the crime of
genocide in slow motion).......Haiti is an
international crime scene......For decades Haitians
have been driven abroad for some sort of dignity,
livelihood and an end to suffering. The brightest,
including journalists, have been murdered or are in
voluntary or involuntary exile.......Haiti is a war
zone, where the rich (from the US and Haiti mainly)
have scorched the earth so thoroughly......."
Powerful words, all true and all ignored by the
corporate media.

The world community of nations has stood by and
watched it all, unmoved, uncaring and eager when
possible to join in the plundering.  The renown doctor
and humanitarian Paul Farmer, Haiti's Albert
Schweitzer, has also watched and tried to help through
his non-profit Partners in Health.  His philosophy is
that "the only real nation is humanity", and he
observed that "The international community has acted
recklessly in Haiti for years without any
accountability."

Maxwell, Farmer and others like dedicated lawyer
Marguerite Laurent, Esq. (founder and chair of the
Haitian Lawyers Leadership Network - HLLN, dedicated
to promoting Haitian civil, human and cultural rights)
have now observed that today little has changed since
the above comments were written.  Maxwell equates
Preval's task to be like trying to carry water in a
basket.  So well said.  I titled this article Preval's
impossible mission. The US and Haitian power elite are
still there and in control and have no intention of
ending their rapacious policies and trying to help the
Haitian people as Aristide and Preval both did during
their previous tenures.  Also, Prime Minister Yvon
Neptune is still in jail where at times during his
incarceration he's been close to death from a hunger
strike. This writer has no information on his current
condition or any possible change in his status.  Rene
Preval's first order of business - on his first day in
office - should be to free him and all the other
political prisoners.

COPING WITH THE IMF AND WORLD BANK

The IMF and World Bank are always at the head of the
queue in demanding developing states adhere to their
neoliberal structural adjustment policies of
privatizations, debt servicing and cuts in vital and
desperately needed social services.  Rene Preval knows
the message but is no doubt hearing it again even more
forcefully as he prepares to assume office.  It
remains to be seen how he'll respond, but it's easy to
know what will happen if he doesn't.  Haiti is in
critical need of funding for programs to help its 80%
or more desperately poor, but it won't get it from
either of these international lending agencies or all
the others the US  controls.  What he'll do and how
he'll cope will likely decide his fate.  The US and
IMF and World Bank they control don't take "no" for an
answer.  But what's the worse choice - going along
with them and allowing the extreme suffering and
deprivation of Haiti's poor to get even worse or
rejecting them and facing the likelihood of another
coup which is certainly already planned if Preval
won't play ball.

Under these conditions, who would trade places with
this man who now has the most challenging and
unenviable job I know - to govern his people as
President surrounded by the most powerful and hostile
forces out to do him in unless he surrenders to their
will.  I doubt very many are that courageous if they
intended to serve their people and defy the dictates
of a ruthless "Godfather" that never tolerates
disobedience.  The long knives are razor sharpened,
poised and at the ready in Washington and Haiti and
Rene have few if any allies to turn to.  But about 7
million desperately poor Haitians are armed with hope
and faith in this man to deliver them out of the maws
and bowels of hell just like the Book of Exodus tells
us Moses tried to lead the Jews to the promised land.
Moses never made it there.  Will Rene Preval have
better luck?  We should all hope he will.

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at
lendmanstephen@....  Also visit his blog
site at sjlendman/blogspot.com.




--- Anne Goddard <winter___@...> wrote:

> Re: [ClimateChangeAction] Headline - A debate
> beggingHi JoL
>
> I wanted to shed some light on the SMH, so i
> registered and tried to find a comments page, but
> came up empty handed.
>
> If there is someone begging for some "factual,
> scientific, reality, and "real light" plus Action,
> viable alternatves, and more.. "names" on this
> issue. It is all right here in the posts and files
> of this little group. As we can't go to them, i
> guess their editors will have to come to us. Shame
> about their readers... I am sure they have had
> enough of the bullshit too.
>
> :-)
> welcome
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> This article by Miranda Divine uses quotes from the
> Laviosier Group of climate sceptics to downplay the
> risks associated with climate change. FYI this group
> is industry funded and was established by mining
> magnate Hugh Morgan - tainted at best by vested
> interests.
>
>
> She also talks about computer modelling being an
> inexact science and of course it is, but it becomes
> more accurate every time a parameter is confirmed by
> hard data - which is why the models are constantly
> being refined.
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>
> JoL
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--- In ClimateChangeAction@..., "Anne Goddard"
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> Australia's greenhouse mafia exposed
> http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2006/657/657p9.htm
> Green Left Weekly
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hi all,
just joined,spontaneously responding here...

i thought the 4 corners take on the 'mafia' thing was thin.
claims on having input to cab subs is not alarming, all stakeholders
are invited to comment.

claims on writing content of cab subs is a distortion of truth, in
that any stakeholders comments can be researched and consequently cab
sub recommendations could change on the basis of government research.

whoever is making these claims is just blowing hot air, trying to
command some warped respect for a level of control they dont really
have. their industry is walking on eggshells.

the real story was the gov alienating respected scientists like
barrie pittock. i have his new book climate change:turning up the
heat, opened for reference as i finish writing up a report.

suze


  

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