Hello,
The photo album for this group is still looking a bit sparce. Any
photos (or articles) relevant to Corsairs in any way would be
greatly appreciated.
They can be to do with Corsairs (or Vagabonds, Ramblers or Gypsies,
which are the sister classes to the Corsairs), and can be from club
or interclub events, class events at a State, National or regional
level, or anything else in any way relevant to these classes of boat.
If the context is not immediately relevant, please include some sort
of caption. If you are not sure how to upload a photo, I can give
advise, or you can email it to me (with a bit of information so I
can write a caption) for me to upload.
Regards, and happy sailing
Tim Buske (Moderator)
Hi Sam
Sorry about the really dum questions but they eliminate some obvious things.
So we can look into the other possibilities.
-----Original Message-----
From: corsair_136 [mailto:samc@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2004 3:22 PM
To: CorsairAustralia@...
Subject: [CorsairAustralia] Re: pointing up wind
Thanks for your great reply Ken,
> Are you new to sailing?
I've never owned a boat, until now, but have spent many summers on
Sabots, windsurfers and the corsair I now own... so I am familiar
with some of the concepts, but very little of the lingo.
[Ken Webster] Good, you know what you are doing.
> Was there a strong current and little wind?
there was a fairly strong current... the water tends to race out just
off Sorrento in Port Phillip Bay.
[Ken Webster] The boat may have been performing OK but this can only be measured
relative
to the water. If the water is moving as well, the boat goes with it. If you
were fighting a strong
current, that explains your lack of progress. Current tends to be slower on the
inside of bends
and in shallows so you can use these areas to assist your progress. Shallows
are a last resort
though because apart from the annoying tendency to ground the centreboard, they
increase
drag on the hull. You can also use slack water behind headlands and points to
assist progress
against current.
> Were there large wind shifts?
I guess there were.
[Ken Webster] You don't sound sure, but as I said in the previous post, wind
shifts can make a
big difference. Any shift that is disadvantageous on one tack is an advantage
on the other. It's
up to you, which it will be, That could be a factor also.
> Does the main and jib both luff at the same instant?
no, the jib was doing most of the luffing
[Ken Webster] That suggests, the jib is not pulled in enough. You will probably
need to adjust
the jib sheet block more inboard until both main and jib work together, luff at
the same time.
This is really important to get the boat to point up into wind properly. The jib
accelerates the
wind through the slot between main and jib. That increases the efficiency of
the main.
You want to get the slot as narrow as possible without back winding on the main.
This is often
done by putting several turns of chord between the sheet block and whatever it
is shackled to,
then adjust the length of the chord until you get it right.
> Does the boat swing upwind or down wind or load the helm
> in gusts?
upwind
[Ken Webster]
That is weather helm, most boats are initially set up that way for safety, as a
gust hits, the boat
luffs up and spills wind. However this causes induced drag on the rudder so is
no good for racing.
It is your call if you want to reduce it or not. Raking the mast forward to
increase sail area forward
of the centre board will reduce weather helm. This can be done by lengthening
the side stays and
retightening the fore stay. Some boats have adjustable plates on the stays for
this. You can do
some tests in medium wind conditions by replacing the side stay shackles with
loops of
VERY STRONG chord. That way you can adjust mast rake to get an idea of the
final adjustment
needed. Then use adjustable plates or add extra shackles for the permanent rig.
Note: Wether helm when well healed over is normal, we are only concerned here
if this tendency
persists at normal trim.
Regards,
Ken
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What a great response, thank you Ken.
Let me go through your questions...
> Are you new to sailing?
I've never owned a boat before, but I've done a few summers in
sabots, wind surfers and the corsair I now own. I understand a few
of the fundamentals, not much of the lingo.
> Did you have the centreboard down?
Yes
> Did the boat appear to drift sideways in the water?
No
> Was there a strong current and little wind?
Strong current - sailing just off Sorrento in Port Phillip Bay the
current is quite strong as the bay empties or fills.
> Were there large wind shifts?
I suppose there were.
> Did you have the sheets pulled in tight?
Yes
> Were main and jib both on the same side of the boat?
Yes
> Were you pointing as close to the wind as possible ,
> luffing occasionally?
Yes
> Does the main and jib both luff at the same instant?
No, mostly just the jib luffing.
> Does the boat swing upwind or down wind or load the helm
> in gusts?
Upwind.
> Raking the mast back produces weather helm (tends to swing upwind).
How does one rake the mast?
As for the rest of your terrific post Ken, I'll need to get a
glossary of sailing terms and go to school.
Regards,
Sam Coates
Thanks for your great reply Ken,
> Are you new to sailing?
I've never owned a boat, until now, but have spent many summers on
Sabots, windsurfers and the corsair I now own... so I am familiar
with some of the concepts, but very little of the lingo.
> Did you have the centreboard down?
yes
> Did the boat appear to drift sideways in the water?
no
> Was there a strong current and little wind?
there was a fairly strong current... the water tends to race out just
off Sorrento in Port Phillip Bay.
> Were there large wind shifts?
I guess there were.
> Did you have the sheets pulled in tight?
yes
> Were main and jib both on the same side of the boat?
yes
> Were you pointing as close to the wind as possible ,
> luffing occasionally?
yes
> Does the main and jib both luff at the same instant?
no, the jib was doing most of the luffing
> Does the boat swing upwind or down wind or load the helm
> in gusts?
upwind
> Balancing the helm best achieved by raking the mast fore and aft
What does one do to rake the mast?
As for the rest of the post... very interesting. I'll need to sit
down with a glossary of boating terms and go to school.
Regards,
Sam Coates
Hi Sam
This certainly seems unusual, I have to ask some silly questions just to
discount some basic things.
Are you new to sailing?
Did you have the centreboard down?
Did the boat appear to drift sideways in the water?
Was there a strong current and little wind?
Were there large wind shifts?
Did you have the sheets pulled in tight?
Were main and jib both on the same side of the boat?
Were you pointing as close to the wind as possible ,
luffing occasionally?
Does the main and jib both luff at the same instant?
Does the boat swing upwind or down wind or load the helm
in gusts?
Old sails are likely to be stretched out of shape and therefore
not as efficient as new. That will only have a small effect on the
boats ability to point to windward but effect it's speed to a greater
degree.
Weight distribution (fore aft) should not effect pointing much but can effect
the helm in gusts and especially jibing in strong winds. It is also critical
to boat speed. In light conditions, you want your weight forward to get
the transom out of the water. In that trim, the boat is operating in
displacement hull mode which is the most power efficient mode
but has it's limitations. When the boat speed is equal to the speed
of the wake you get one wave length from bow to stern so the hull
appears to travel in a trough between the bow and stern wave crests.
that is the maximum speed of a displacement a hull. Adding more
power will not significantly increase boat speed. For a corsair,
that is around 5 knts. To go faster than this, you have to retrim
into planing or semi planing mode by shifting your weight aft
until the transom is the lowest point of the keel. In this mode,
there is positive pressure under the entire contact area of hull and
water. This pressure lifts the hull to plane across the surface and
escape the wave drag limitations of displacement mode.
Now small sail boat hulls are generally designed for planing so as
speed increases, the stern is sucked down and the distinction between
displacement and planing mode is blurred somewhat. However if you
don't retrim aft, you will have a neg pressure under the keel at the stern
and this will not allow the hull to lift as much as it might. The greater
wetted surface area and consequent skin friction will not allow the hull
to reach its maximum possible speed.
Between these modes, you just have to experiment to find the best fore/aft
trim for the prevailing conditions.
Best upwind performance is gained by:
Balancing the helm best achieved by raking the mast fore and aft
until there is no side load on the rudder. The amount of heal and
fore/aft trim will have some small effect on the helm so you need
a balanced helm for normal sailing trim conditions. Note that
most boats are not balanced but tend to swing upwind in gusts
because this is safer for novice sailors but not ideal for racing.
Raking the mast back produces weather helm (tends to swing upwind).
Sail twist:
Tell tails placed in the main and jib luff will tell you if there are areas
of the sail that are not working as efficiently as others. The aim is the
lee and windward telltales to both lie back straight at the same time,
indicating smooth flow over both sides of the sail. If the lee tell tail
blows up, down or forward, your sail is stalling and needs to be eased off
a little. When working, this is done by pointing up wind rather than easing
off the sheet. If the windward telltale acts up, then you are about to luff.
so ease off the wind or pull the sheet on.
Now placing 3 telltales along the luff say at 1/6 from the foot,
in the middle and 1/6 form the sail head and all 1/3 from luff to leach
will tell you what the lower middle and top thirds of the sail are doing
and this will indicate if there is any sail twist. You adjust twist in the
main by vang tension and in the jib by moving the sheet block fore and aft.
Jib and main balance. You want the jib and main to be working together
so the jib and main telltales should be telling the same story. So adjust
the jib block inboard or outboard until they are. The jib should not
backwind on the main but both sails should luff at the same time.
In practice, you may need to compromise a little but err on side of
getting the jib in tight so you can point closest to the wind.
The biggest factor by far is tactical, taking advantage of wind shifts.
Wind direction is ever changing. These changes either knock you
off your course upwind (disadvantage) or lift your course upwind.
Now a knock on your tack is a lift on the other tack so you need to
go about to take advantage of the shift. Smaller changes are often
not long lived enough to be advantageous, larger shifts usually are.
Also in racing it usually does not pay to go out to one side of the course
on a long tack. You could get severely disadvantaged by a permanent
wind shift. Of course, there are sometimes reasons for doing just that,
more wind over there or cloud movement may be indicating a substantial
wind shift so one side of the course would be advantaged etc.
It's a matter for judgment, smooth snappy tacking. Do not tack
randomly but only for good reason. This alone can make hundreds
of meters difference per km upwind.
Regards,
Ken
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From: corsair_136 [mailto:samc@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2004 4:47 PM
To: CorsairAustralia@...
Subject: [CorsairAustralia] pointing up wind
This is probably a very basic question and perhaps not appropriate
for this group - please let me know if that is the case...
I am now the proud owner of an old corsair number 136, and have spent
a very happy weekend bobbing around Port Phillip Bay in it.
I'm having trouble beating into the wind. (2 miles out and back and
only a few hundred metres further up the coast!) What are some of the
factors that affect upwind performance?
Could the very old sails be the problem? Weight distributon in the
boat?
Any help, or pointers to on-line guides, very much appreciated.
Sam Coates
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This is probably a very basic question and perhaps not appropriate
for this group - please let me know if that is the case...
I am now the proud owner of an old corsair number 136, and have spent
a very happy weekend bobbing around Port Phillip Bay in it.
I'm having trouble beating into the wind. (2 miles out and back and
only a few hundred metres further up the coast!) What are some of the
factors that affect upwind performance?
Could the very old sails be the problem? Weight distributon in the
boat?
Any help, or pointers to on-line guides, very much appreciated.
Sam Coates
Hi Greg
To be competitive, it is essential to be able to adjust just about everything on
the water.
Conditions change and different points of sailing require different adjustments
to optimise
performance. Your jib tack is probably lashed in some way to the luff wire.
All you need do is unlash the tack from the jib wire. When rigging, take a line
from the eye
in the jib tack, through a small block shackled to the fore stay plate, just
behind the luff wire
and back through a V cleat mounted on the fore deck near the mast.
There are many alternate rigs, some prefer to take the line from the stay plate,
up through
the tack eye and back through the above mentioned block which gives a little
leverage though
probably unnecessary makes fine adjustment easier.
You can also arrange a block on either side or the tack eye and V cleats on each
gunwale,
near the side stays. That way you can run the luff tension line from one V
cleat, across the fore deck,
through one block, up through the tack eye, back down through the other block,
and across the fore
deck to the other V cleat. That way you can adjust jib luff tension without
ever coming inboard.
On our old Vag, we used systems like this for the Main luff and foot tension too
so the sail shape could
be adjusted while fully powered.
The most important jib adjustment is the sheet block position though. I am not
sure what corsair rules
allow but the best jib sheet block position for working and reaching are
different.
Watch the jib twist (luff tell tales).
Regards,
Ken
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Sent: Friday, 23 January 2004 9:51 AM
To: CorsairAustralia@...
Subject: [CorsairAustralia] jib luff tension
Can anyone provide some advice on jib luff tensioning systems. My
jib is currently fixed to the wire rope at both ends providing no
means of adjustment. I have seen some systems which allow luff
tension to be adjusted on-water. Is this the preferred approach or
is it over complicating things?
Regards
Greg
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Can anyone provide some advice on jib luff tensioning systems. My
jib is currently fixed to the wire rope at both ends providing no
means of adjustment. I have seen some systems which allow luff
tension to be adjusted on-water. Is this the preferred approach or
is it over complicating things?
Regards
Greg
Hi Sam,
Paul Hindge here from WA as well.
No it doesn't make any difference who made it as far as price is concerned. It
sounds like a De Havilland version from the age you gave though. The hull number
would confirm it though. Generally the smaller the number, the older the boat.
They started off at about 100. The latest batch to be produced are up to about
1100.
As far as I am aware, the Victorian Association has been virtually inactive for
several years. It would help if I knew where you are in Victoria as I could
point you in the direction of clubs that still sailed them. When I was last in
Victoria (1992) I knew they where sailed at Rosebud Yacht Club because I saw
half a dozen in the yard. They were also sailed on Lake Hume from the Albury
Yacht Club. There are probably other places they were sailed but those are the
only two places that come to hand easily.
To answer your question - I don't think there is a lot of demand for Corsairs in
Victoria.
Regards
Paul Hindge.
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Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 3:38 PM
Subject: [CorsairAustralia] Re: What's it worth?
Thanks Brian,
I am in Victoria... what's the demand and supply situation in that
state like?
Doe the possibility that it's a De Havilland hull rather than a later
BWM hull make any difference to it's value?
Thanks again,
Sam Coates
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Thanks Brian,
I am in Victoria... what's the demand and supply situation in that
state like?
Doe the possibility that it's a De Havilland hull rather than a later
BWM hull make any difference to it's value?
Thanks again,
Sam Coates
It really depends upon the state in which you live.
Corsairs are more popular in Queensland and NSW and therefore more
expensive.
In WA, if you can get one, they are about $600-800 (and VERY rare).
A new main will cost $800+, a jib about $400 plus.
By the 'hole in which the mast is threaded', I assume you mean the
tabernacle. They are easily made yourself (from reasonably thick marine
ply), likewise the rudder blade. Self bailers can be purchased - don't know
the cost, assume about $80 each.
Trailers vary, but second hand ones are usually available in the paper from
about $200. My last new one, many years ago, was $1200.
To determine the age of the boat requires the hull number (on the mainsail
or the number on the plate at the back of the centreboard case). Boats were
distributed from about 1967 onwards. My boats are 535 and 539 which are De
Havilland hulls which I believe are 1972 manufacture. From 700 onwards (a
1978 build), the hulls are made by Blue Waters Marine in Melbourne. Margaret
Moxon (snmmoxon@...) in Queensland will be able to give you
better information than I can, so long as you know the number.
Good luck with the boat - they are great fun.
Brian Pettitt
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>Reply-To: CorsairAustralia@...
>To: CorsairAustralia@...
>Subject: [CorsairAustralia] What's it worth?
>Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:40:23 -0000
>
>I've been lucky enough to sail a friend's Corsair on and off for
>years - and have just recently discovered that they are willing to
>sell it to me.
>
>I wonder if any of the members here could give me some idea of what
>it's worth based on the following information.
>
>Made in late sixties early seventies approx.
>Lots of use.
>Lived most of it's life in a boat shed - but used by many and cared
>for by few
>Main (very loose) and jib with some rust spots, no spinnaker
>self bailers rusted and difficult to activate
>rudder very worn
>no trailer
>hole in which the mast is threaded when raising is well worn
>
>Having said all that - it's still very fun to sail (just had it out
>last weekend).
>
>Do you need more information?
>
>Kind regards,
>
>Sam C
>
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I've been lucky enough to sail a friend's Corsair on and off for
years - and have just recently discovered that they are willing to
sell it to me.
I wonder if any of the members here could give me some idea of what
it's worth based on the following information.
Made in late sixties early seventies approx.
Lots of use.
Lived most of it's life in a boat shed - but used by many and cared
for by few
Main (very loose) and jib with some rust spots, no spinnaker
self bailers rusted and difficult to activate
rudder very worn
no trailer
hole in which the mast is threaded when raising is well worn
Having said all that - it's still very fun to sail (just had it out
last weekend).
Do you need more information?
Kind regards,
Sam C
The owners manual is correct Greg.
The main purpose of any jibsail is to point the boat effectively upwind. To do
that you need to get the tack attached to the boat as far forward as possible.
When the boat is tensioned up, all the weight of the mast and rigging will be
held by the jib luff and the forestay will hang loose. It doesn't matter where
forestay is attached at this point as it is only providing backup in case the
luff wire snaps. The important thing is to get the jib as far forward as
possible.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Paul.
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Date: Monday, January 12, 2004 12:54 PM
Subject: [CorsairAustralia] Forestay attachment point
I'm a novice Corsair sailor and seek some clarification on the
attachment points of the forestay and jib on a Corsair. Based on
the previous owners advice I currently attach the forestay to the
foremost hole of the deck fitting and the tack of the jib to the
next hole back. But, I have found an owners manual which indicates
that it should be the other way around. Which is correct? Any advice
will be greatly appreciated.
Regards
Greg
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I'm a novice Corsair sailor and seek some clarification on the
attachment points of the forestay and jib on a Corsair. Based on
the previous owners advice I currently attach the forestay to the
foremost hole of the deck fitting and the tack of the jib to the
next hole back. But, I have found an owners manual which indicates
that it should be the other way around. Which is correct? Any advice
will be greatly appreciated.
Regards
Greg
Hello all,
When my website for Corsairs went offline my archived photos were no
longer available. I have placed those photos for the 2000-2001
National Titles, National Cadet Titles and National Youth Titles in
the group photo albums.
Go to Photos > Nationals > National Titles 2000-2001 for available
National Titles and National Cadet Titles photos.
Go to Photos > Nationals > National Youth Titles 2000-2001 for
available National Youth Titles photos.
Regards
Tim Buske
Group Moderator
timb843@...
Thanks Tim.
I'll try Buckland Marine. Unfortunately BWM don't won't have any
more spars in till sometime after xmas.
If you do hear of anyone who does have a mast though, please let me
know
Thanks Again
Regards
Lucas
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wrote:
> Hello Lucas,
> There are sometimes second hand masts around, but I do not know who
> might have one for sale at the moment. Another option are those
> chandlers or others who are agents for Blue Water Marine. In NSW,
> you could try Buckland Marine on the Central Coast.
> Regards
> Tim
>
> --- In CorsairAustralia@..., "lukebatton"
> <lukebatton@y...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Does anyone have a corsair mast (or compatible mast)they wish to
> sell or know of where to buy one.
> >
> > Please email: lukebatton@y...
> > phone: 0428 197 243
> >
> > Thanks
> > Lucas
Hello Lucas,
Another option is to list it on the Corsair Boats for Sail page at
http://au.geocities.com/corsairnational/boatsforsale/index.htm
Regards
Tim
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wrote:
> Hello Lucas,
> There are sometimes second hand masts around, but I do not know
who might have one for sale at the moment. Another option are those
chandlers or others who are agents for Blue Water Marine. In NSW,
you could try Buckland Marine on the Central Coast.
> Regards
> Tim
>
> --- In CorsairAustralia@..., "lukebatton"
> <lukebatton@y...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Does anyone have a corsair mast (or compatible mast)they wish to
sell or know of where to buy one.
> >
> > Please email: lukebatton@y...
> > phone: 0428 197 243
> >
> > Thanks
> > Lucas
Hello Lucas,
There are sometimes second hand masts around, but I do not know who
might have one for sale at the moment. Another option are those
chandlers or others who are agents for Blue Water Marine. In NSW,
you could try Buckland Marine on the Central Coast.
Regards
Tim
--- In CorsairAustralia@..., "lukebatton"
<lukebatton@y...> wrote:
> Hi,
> Does anyone have a corsair mast (or compatible mast)they wish to
sell or know of where to buy one.
>
> Please email: lukebatton@y...
> phone: 0428 197 243
>
> Thanks
> Lucas
Hi,
Does anyone have a corsair mast (or compatible mast)they wish to sell
or know of where to buy one.
Please email: lukebatton@...
phone: 0428 197 243
Thanks
Lucas
Hi,
Does anyone have a corsair mast (or compatible mast)they wish to sell
or know of where to buy one.
Please email: lukebatton@...
phone: 0428 197 243
Thanks
Lucas
Thanks Tim
I heard the same thing yesterday from Doreen she said she knew the boat very
well.
Thanks for the confirmation.
Regards,
Ken
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Sent: Monday, 3 November 2003 7:01 PM
To: CorsairAustralia@...
Subject: [CorsairAustralia] Re: Reminising
Hello Ken,
There is a Vagabond called Pisces at Budgewoi Sailing Club on the
Central Coast. (See Yahoo group
http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/budgewoisailing/
<http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/budgewoisailing/> ). I don't
remember the sail number or spinnaker colour of that partcular boat,
but you can contact the club president at the email address listed
on the group.
Regards
Tim
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<ken.webster@l...> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I was recently given an old beat up sailing tender which has re-
> awoken my interest in sailing. Looking around at current active
> classes, it seems the corsair is probably the most appropriate for
a
> family boat though I don't know how I might be able to afford even
a
> 2nd hand one. That aside, I am interested to find out if there
are
> any old aquaintances out there.
>
> I used to sail at Oak Flats Club in Lake Illawarra from around
1969
> to 1976. First in manly juniours (Tangara 1381) and later with my
> father or brother in a Vagabond (pisces 220) which had a
distinctive
> purple spinaker.
>
> Together we sailed many regattas, CHS titles and NSW state titles,
> usually comming in 2nd overall in the state. In those days the
Vags
> and Corsairs had a close association. Looking at a recent
Nationals
> writeup, that may still be the case. So maybe there are some old
> friends here?
>
> Also I am interested in any news of our old boat number 220.
>
>
> Regards,
> Ken Webster
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Hello Ken,
There is a Vagabond called Pisces at Budgewoi Sailing Club on the
Central Coast. (See Yahoo group
http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/budgewoisailing/ ). I don't
remember the sail number or spinnaker colour of that partcular boat,
but you can contact the club president at the email address listed
on the group.
Regards
Tim
--- In CorsairAustralia@..., "kenneth_mark_webster"
<ken.webster@l...> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I was recently given an old beat up sailing tender which has re-
> awoken my interest in sailing. Looking around at current active
> classes, it seems the corsair is probably the most appropriate for
a
> family boat though I don't know how I might be able to afford even
a
> 2nd hand one. That aside, I am interested to find out if there
are
> any old aquaintances out there.
>
> I used to sail at Oak Flats Club in Lake Illawarra from around
1969
> to 1976. First in manly juniours (Tangara 1381) and later with my
> father or brother in a Vagabond (pisces 220) which had a
distinctive
> purple spinaker.
>
> Together we sailed many regattas, CHS titles and NSW state titles,
> usually comming in 2nd overall in the state. In those days the
Vags
> and Corsairs had a close association. Looking at a recent
Nationals
> writeup, that may still be the case. So maybe there are some old
> friends here?
>
> Also I am interested in any news of our old boat number 220.
>
>
> Regards,
> Ken Webster
I last saw 220 in WA 7 or 8 years ago carrying the name 'Blossom'.
Peter Tremlett owned it at the time. He is no longer sailing,
although he is still involved with Safety Bay Yacht Club and with
YAWA.
--- In CorsairAustralia@..., "kenneth_mark_webster"
<ken.webster@l...> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I was recently given an old beat up sailing tender which has re-
> awoken my interest in sailing. Looking around at current active
> classes, it seems the corsair is probably the most appropriate for
a
> family boat though I don't know how I might be able to afford even
a
> 2nd hand one. That aside, I am interested to find out if there are
> any old aquaintances out there.
>
> I used to sail at Oak Flats Club in Lake Illawarra from around 1969
> to 1976. First in manly juniours (Tangara 1381) and later with my
> father or brother in a Vagabond (pisces 220) which had a
distinctive
> purple spinaker.
>
> Together we sailed many regattas, CHS titles and NSW state titles,
> usually comming in 2nd overall in the state. In those days the
Vags
> and Corsairs had a close association. Looking at a recent Nationals
> writeup, that may still be the case. So maybe there are some old
> friends here?
>
> Also I am interested in any news of our old boat number 220.
>
>
> Regards,
> Ken Webster
Hi
I was recently given an old beat up sailing tender which has re-
awoken my interest in sailing. Looking around at current active
classes, it seems the corsair is probably the most appropriate for a
family boat though I don't know how I might be able to afford even a
2nd hand one. That aside, I am interested to find out if there are
any old aquaintances out there.
I used to sail at Oak Flats Club in Lake Illawarra from around 1969
to 1976. First in manly juniours (Tangara 1381) and later with my
father or brother in a Vagabond (pisces 220) which had a distinctive
purple spinaker.
Together we sailed many regattas, CHS titles and NSW state titles,
usually comming in 2nd overall in the state. In those days the Vags
and Corsairs had a close association. Looking at a recent Nationals
writeup, that may still be the case. So maybe there are some old
friends here?
Also I am interested in any news of our old boat number 220.
Regards,
Ken Webster
Hello everyone,
Just thought I'd let you know about some of the nonsense that gets
sent through email. I know its not sailing related but this group is
based on email so you might like to know. Be careful about the
emails
you read and which ones to take seriously.
This was prompted by an email I received as moderator, as did
probably
the other moderators. It was one of those "offers" to make one rich,
in terms of millions, if you help hide money, and you just have to
give all your contact and personal details. Needless to say, this is
nonsense, and it is dangerous in that if you gave out all these
details, you could be a victim of fraud. Don't believe things that
are too good to be true. Note that non-moderators should not have
got
this message.
On the subject of emails, please be careful of viruses (or virii).
There are many viruses out on the Internet now. The emails of this
group are stripped of all attachments, so they should be safe, but be
careful about any bizare links embedded in emails as well.
I know this is an off topic message, but I thought a friendly warning
might be appropriate.
On a lighter note, happy sailing and happy birthday to Ashley
Chapman.
I hope I can make it to the party.
Regards
Tim
(Moderator)
89 and still sailing in the Corsair State Titles
Ashley Chapman the president of the Corsair Class Association of NSW
sailed on Lake Macquarie this Easter. Mannering park yacht Club
hosted the event and we like to congratulate them on the excellent
service they provided. The sailing conditions were certainly not for
a novice sailor but Ashley a veteran on the tiller sailed all 5 races
over the 3 days. Ashley sails the Corsair 16ft sailing dinghy already
for 36 years and is not ready to give it up yet. Ashley celebrates
his 90th birthday this year and his club, Budgewoi Sailing Club, is
holding a huge birthday dinner and party in his honour.
The club hopes that everyone who has known Ashley, sailed with him or
admired his contribution to the community will reserve their place at
his party, to be held on the evening of Saturday, August 2, at the
Lake Munmorah Community Hall at Lake Munmorah. Early booking is
essential, to enable organisers to assess the size of venue that will
be necessary. Please call or email any one of the following to
reserve a place.
Dorothy Hamilton 02 4396 2485, Kylie Cook 02 4390 7454
(kylie.cook.@...), Laurel Garty 02 43 581131
The results of the 36 Corsair State titles are: A Fleet: 1st 390
Sunset skippered by Kevin Cook, 2nd 336 Deciduous skippered by Kathy
Bourke, 3rd 524 Breaking Wind skippered by Roger Stewart.
Cadet Fleet: 1st TS Sirius 777 Pucka Up skippered by Adam Anderson, ,
2nd TS Sirius 733 Bubbels skippered by Margaret Allen, 3rd 951 TS
Condamine 951 Condamine 2 skippered by James Stewart
We like to invite you all for Ashley Chapman 90th Birthday.
Ashley is the President from Budgewoi Sailing Club and we are holding
a party for him on the 2nd August 2003. If you would like to come
please contact Doreen so soon as possible.
budgewoisailing@...
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