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Pulmonary edema
 
 
Pulmonary edema
 
 

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Alternative names    Return to top

Lung/pulmonary congestion; Lung water

Definition    Return to top

Pulmonary edema involves fluid accumulation and swelling in the lungs.

Causes, incidence, and risk factors    Return to top

Pulmonary edema is usually caused by heart failure that results in increased pressure in the pulmonary (lung) veins. However, problems within the lungs themselves can also result in fluid accumulation.

Pulmonary edema can be a complication of a heart attack, leaking or narrowed heart valves (mitral or aortic valves), or any disease of the heart that either results in weakening and/or stiffening of the heart muscle (cardiomyopathy). The failing heart transmits its increased pressure to the lung veins. As pressure in the lung veins rises, fluid is pushed into the air spaces (alveoli). This fluid then becomes a barrier to normal oxygen exchange, resulting in shortness of breath.

Pulmonary edema can also be caused by direct lung injury from toxins including heat and poisonous gas, severe infection, or an excess of body fluid as seen in kidney failure.

Symptoms    Return to top

Additional symptoms that may be associated with this disease:

Signs and tests    Return to top

During a physical exam, the provider may identify the following signs:

  • Rapid breathing and increased heart rate
  • Crackles in the lungs or abnormal heart sounds (while listening to the chest with a stethoscope)
  • Pale or blue skin color

Possible tests include:

  • Blood oxygen levels (low)
  • A chest x-ray may reveal fluid in or around the lung space or an enlarged heart
  • An ultrasound of the heart (echocardiogram) may reveal weak heart muscle, leaking or narrow heart valves, or fluid surrounding the heart

Treatment    Return to top

Oxygen is given via nasal prongs or a face mask. Intubation (breathing tube placed into the windpipe) and use of a breathing machine (ventilator) may be needed.

Underlying causes must be rapidly identified and treated. For example, if a heart attack has caused the condition, the heart must be treated and stabilized.

Medications to accelerate water excretion from the body via the urine (diuretics) are given. One common diuretic is furosemide (Lasix). Other medications to strengthen the heart muscle or to relieve the pressure on the heart may also be given as needed.

Expectations (prognosis)    Return to top

Although pulmonary edema can be a life-threatening condition, it is often readily treatable. Prognosis, however, depends upon the underlying disease.

Complications    Return to top

The patient may require long-term dependence on a breathing machine (ventilator).

Calling your health care provider    Return to top

Go to the emergency room or call 911 if conditions suggesting pulmonary edema occur, particularly if breathing is difficult.

Prevention    Return to top

In patients with known diseases that can lead to pulmonary edema, strict compliance with taking medications in a timely manner and following an appropriate diet (usually, low in salt) can significantly decrease one's risk.
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High Altitude Pulmonary Edema


From Sept 1998 Lost & Found Newsletter

High Altitude Pulmonary Edema (HAPE) is when the lungs fill up with fluid as a result of the body adapting to high elevation. It occurs vary rarely below 8,000 feet. The reason the lungs fill up with fluid is a bit complex, and I am not a doctor, but the basic idea is the pulmonary artery (from the heart to the lungs) contracts a bit as people go up in elevation. In a few rare cases, people have only one pulmonary artery. These people are susceptible to HAPE below 8,000 feet.

For some reason, the younger you are, the more likely you are to get HAPE. Being well-conditioned is no defense against HAPE. It is thought that people who are susceptible to HAPE have pulmonary arteries that contract more than average.

As the pulmonary artery contracts, the pressure in the alveoli (the capillaries in the lungs) goes up. From osmotic pressure, some fluid goes from the alveoli into the lungs. As the lungs fill with fluid, it becomes harder and harder to breathe. After a while, coma and death can result. Descent is the best solution, although oxygen can help the symptoms when descent is impossible.

I have always been a bit slow at high altitude. At first, I put it down to the lack of oxygen. I remember some odd breathing sounds when I was over 10,000 feet for a weekend. I never got headaches worse than headaches that I sometimes get while hiking. I have never felt nauseated. So I never thought that I was susceptible to any high altitude illnesses.

Well, one day I went on yet another backpack over 10,000 feet. The first night we drove in, and slept around 9,200 feet. The next day, we backpacked to 11,200 feet. The next day we were supposed to go on a hike, and perhaps climb a peak or two. The distance and elevation gain of the hike was well within by abilities. We started off, and I didn't feel so well. I also happened to have a pulse-watch with me, and I was very familiar with my pulse while exercising at different intensities. I was breathing quite rapidly, and feeling very tired. My pulse was around 100-110, which is pretty low for me. My resting pulse is around 40, and my pulse while exercising heavily can stay above 160 for hours at a time. So I knew that I wasn't exercising heavily. It was a very puzzling situation. After a short rest, I decided that hiking was a bad idea, and I returned to camp. I had a mild headache. I could see my fingernail beds were slightly bluish.

I took some aspirin. I didn't feel much better after a few hours, and fearing that I was having some mild altitude problems, I took some Diamox. I had taken Diamox before, and happened to be carrying it in my huge first aid kit. Well, it had its primary effect, and that was to make me urinate quite a bit. Fortunately, we were close to a large lake, so there was no shortage of drinking water... After a few hours, I started feeling a little better.

I went to sleep that evening, and I didn't sleep well. I woke up around midnight, hearing the oddest sound while I was breathing. It sounded like a paper bag being crumpled up. I recalled hearing that sound before, but never quite so clearly. In all the mountaineering medicine books I have read they described rales as sounding like a paper bag being crumpled up, and described the sounds as 'unmistakable'. I thought the unmistakable part was a cop-out to avoid describing the sound in more detail. I was wrong.

Now I knew what I had. I had HAPE! I knew that if I went back to sleep, I would get more de-oxygenated, and that the condition would get worse. I didn't really feel like sleeping anyway, as I have read many books about high altitude expeditions, and people dying of high altitude illness in their sleep. I did have one more drug to try, and that was Dexamethasone. Diamox and Dexamethasone have been the drugs of choice for HAPE. So I figured since I had HAPE, I should take some Dexamethasone. While I was at it, I think I took another Diamox.

Now in retrospect, this was pretty silly. But I know more now that I knew then. Neither Diamox nor Dexamethasone will reverse the symptoms of HAPE.

I woke my friend in the tent, and carefully explained the situation. I decided the best course of action was to hike down immediately. So I packed up my backpack and all my gear. I was there with some more friends. While packing, they woke up. I explained the situation to them, and they agreed that hiking down was the best thing to do. I had each of them put their ear against my chest so that they could hear the rales first hand. One friend insisted on accompanying me. I said this wasn't necessary, but they insisted. So we headed down.

It took about 5 hours for us to do about 5 miles. It was quite dark. I am very used to hiking in the dark, and I never use a flashlight, although I often carry one. I typically hike two times each week for several hours in the dark. This time, it seemed darker. The sky seemed overcast, and I really couldn't see well enough to hike safely. So I took out my trusty Petzel micro headlamp, and used it to hike. The really scary thing is that I knew that poor night vision is one of the first signs of low blood oxygen.

After we got to the cars (9,200) feet, I was feeling a little better, despite having little sleep. We drove down to 4,000 feet, and I was feeling much better. I had a large breakfast. I had to wait about 6 hours for the rest of the people to show up. I could still hear the rales, but my blood was saturated, because I my fingernail beds were pinkish. After a few days the rales went away as the fluid was re-absorbed.

As the Harvard med student said, "You should realize that HAPE is one of those things doctors don't really understand, no matter what anybody tells you. I'd stick with Diamox prophylaxis."

Source: http://www.weasel.com/hape.html:

Submitted by Paul Duer

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White Willow Bark (Salix) The bark of this herb contains salicin, a naturally occurring salicylate (aspirin is a commonly used synthetic form of salicylate, White Willow Bark is the original source of Salicin, the forerunner of aspirin without the same side effects). Believed to relieve pain and discomfort with consistent success. Laboratory studies indicate salicylates doubled the effect of ephedrine and may reverse obesity with a loss of more than 75% of body fat versus 50% in studies using ephedrine alone. Salicylate alone had no effect long-term for weight management. Combined with Ma Huang, this herb may help the body in an effective high-performance weight-loss program.
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Altitude Sickness

In its most dangerous form, altitude sickness is known as pulmonary odema. This is the name for what happens when there is a build-up of fluid on the lungs and make no mistake, it constitutes a serious medical emergency. The symptoms include shortness of breath and disorientation - and those most at risk are smokers and anyone with an existing heart problem.

The secret to avoiding this problem is to acclimatise slowly says the London-based naturopath and traveller, Max Tomlinson, who has travelled widely in South America and so speaks from experience. Do not rush your trek up the mountain but enjoy this excuse to take your time and take in the glorious scenery, he suggests. If, at any point, you feel dizzy or short of breath make your way back down to a lower altitude.

Tomlinson suggests your holistic travel kit should include, as a precaution, two homeopathic preparations. Aconite 6c, which is used to treat the sudden onset of the symptoms, including breathlessness, and Arsenicum album 6c should be taken if there is a delay between developing the first symptoms and getting medical treatment. You can take both at the same time and should take one dose, four times a day up to a maximum of four doses.

Because there is less oxygen available at higher altitudes, you also need to make sure your iron levels are normal, preferably before you travel. Tomlinson recommends you take a supplement called Floradix for a month, starting 14 days before you leave. Ginkgo biloba has been shown in clinical trials to boost the amount of oxygen and other nutrients reaching the brain and there is now good evidence that this too will help. Again, start a fortnight before your departure date and take 20 drops of an organic tincture of the herb, three times a day.

There is also good anecdotal evidence for a homeopathic remedy called Coca, which comes from the leaves of the cocaine plant. This will fall into place when you learn those living in the region you plan to visit chew the same leaves for altitude sickness. The theory is the active ingredient boost circulation of blood and oxygen to the brain.

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OK, I really didn't do too well in the search for natural cures of pulmonary edema- there are two more results I should point out. Number one- drinking your own urine is recommended on some websites, although I personally don't recommend this method. Also, I discovered that one of the dangers associated with drinking too much of or drinking tainted KOMBUCHA TEA can be pulmonary edema, so BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR KOMBUCHA TEA! Here is a link: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=kombucha+tea+pulmonary+edema&spell=1 (I was actually looking for kombucha tea as a GOOD THING against pulmonary edema and found this instead!--"Cheyenne Cin")



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I'm getting the first two articles from some of the links from original message: ==================== Ginkgo Biloba, Altitude and Acute Mountain Sickness (AMS)...
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