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Re: [LPFM] Regarding 88.1FM

Here's a question:

The NZ FM radio band is 88 to 108 MHz, and this is in common with Europe, USA,
Australia, and many other countries..

All receivers designed to operate in the NZ FM band cover the whole band.

Some individuals and companies import vehicles into NZ, which are fitted with
radios not designed to work in the NZ FM band.
ie: Japapnse domestic market receivers cover 76-90 MHz.

Why should normal, legal, licenced commercial operation be limited through the
adoption of receivers in the NZ market, which are not designed for NZ
conditions, and some would argue, not 'fit for purpose'?

If you are foolish enough to use a non-fit-for-purpose FM receiver, then you
need to accept the limitations of the receiver.

Band expanders are not perfect and cannot make a Japanese domestic receiver
perform properly in the NZ FM band

I think the radio stations should lobby for a 'fit for purpose' designation, and
get the goernment to regulate that FM receivers should be designed to cover the
NZ FM band, otherwise they should not be allowed in this country.

My own experience with a Japanese domestic rceiver was so poor, that I replaced
the car stereo with a unit that was designed for 88-108 MHz.

>>> "Andrew Dyke" <andrew.dyke@...> 31/05/2003 >>>
Hi guys

87.6 MHz is not really an option for 2 reasons. First, the band below 88MHz is
already in use for land mobile radio telephone use and there are existing
licences in most areas. Secondly, the average digital FM receiver only tunes
down to 88 MHz. Most analogue tuning receivers would make it OK, as would a jap
import car radio.

A consideration in expanding the FM band above 100MHz is the thousands of cars
using band expanders which only get to 102 MHz. The potential loss of market
makes this a major consideration for commercial operators who want to be able to
collect everybody. Less of an issue with niche groups who would hope that their
listeners would make an effort to listen to their programs.

Cheers
Andrew


On 29 May 2003 at 12:13, Michael and Ross wrote:

> Tourist Radio should be on 87.6 & no other broadcaster
> using below 87.8 as its low powered plus also the
> possibility of if these LPFM's are so low powered and
> legal they should be allowed to also use the
> commercial band if theyre under 300mW and causing no
> interference- ie 93.1 could be used in a small area
> in Auckland as no way Whangarei's frequency would be
> comprimised nor The Rock in Hamilton(no one in Ak
> should be listening to that)-the LPFM shouldnt cause
> interference to Solid Gold on 93.4 at 300 milli watts.
> Conversley 92.9 could be used in a different part of
> the city and Concert on 92.6 wouldn't be interfered
> with and again 93.0 Hamilton no one listens to it in
> Ak -This can be done all over the dial.Just a little
> common sense.
> Michael
> --- Raja Maharaja <boxer_nz008@...> wrote:
> > Hi There
> >
> > For some time I been angry as a keen listner of
> > tourist radio around
> > Auckland Airport which is run by my friends on
> > 88.1fm i.e; suppose to be
> > LPFM, some Indian Radio Station has hijacked it,
> > after doing some
> > investigations work with my friends today I found
> > out that 88.1FM is being
> > solely used for commercial purposes and run by a
> > station in Henderson as I
> > understand from the regulations this is ABSOLUTE
> > illegal over LPFM, I need
> > help with two things any comments will be
> > appriciated 1. How can I stop
> > commercial station taking over 88.1 @ Airport with
> > there powerful
> > transmitters which can reach over 8KM 2. What other
> > frequency options can
> > we use as other frequeny clashes with 88.6 Mai FM.
> >
> > Thanks
> > ROGER
> >
> >
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We could use 76Mhz to 90 like the Japanese plus the current FM Band:-) The way everyone these days seem to be able to afford calling on cellphones these days ...
Michael and Ross
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Here's a question: The NZ FM radio band is 88 to 108 MHz, and this is in common with Europe, USA, Australia, and many other countries.. All receivers designed...
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Forget it. The NZ FM band is 88-108 MHz, and won't change. We have an existing FM band that works well and fits with the overwhelming majority of the world...
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See what I mean no one thinks outside the "square" ... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to...
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Appreciate your point - but a major change of the regulated spectrum (which has been set over 20 years ago.) is simply really dificult to do. Yes, you mught...
Jochen Siegenthaler
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With digital,DAB,IBOC,Satellite whatever won't people have purchase completly new radios anyway? With extended bands including AM 1602-1701 people will ...
Michael and Ross
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I can agree with this, I have a good brand radio in the truck and when its not expanded I can hear 88.4 for miles. When I added the most expensive expander it...
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I'm with Jochen on this one Band expanders are just a quick fix and actually cause us significant problems with the radiation of signals in other bands and...
Andrew Dyke
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Andrew, are there any firm plans for DAB here? Are trials imminent? Jonathan Mosen Director ACB Radio, the voice of the Blind Community http://www.acbradio.org...
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MessageI'm pretty sure there are plans to introduce it but I don't know any details. ... From: Jonathan Mosen To: LPFM_Radio@... Sent: Tuesday,...
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What is the major cost in DAB? I presume terrestrial broadcasting will be possible, not just satellite? Is it not just another transmitter on a high hill on...
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Hi Ross I would think that the terrestrial version is more likely with someone like BCL installing transmitters at their existing sites and then selling...
Andrew Dyke
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I guess all we can do is hope that whoever controls the channels will provide them to non-profit organisations at a low-cost. Cheers, Ross. ... From: Andrew...
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Hopefully they dont go digital on the current analogue bands It will end up like UHF Sky TV -just a waste of spectrum with rubbish on ie fill the band up with ...
Michael and Ross
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Somehow I don't see bcl = budget. Where I was working recenyl saved about 900% overheads by going with TeamTalk rather than BCL for a TX site. ... From: Andrew...
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I can't wait for DAB so see how much more mpeg upon meg compression will degrade over-all on-air quality and give 'digital' a more bad personalilty. ... From:...
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The difference was $2,000 not $25,000p/a. Incl power and electric backup. ... From: Gavin Stephens To: LPFM_Radio@... Sent: Wednesday, June 04,...
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Hello Andrew - I think that I probably qualify as being a community minded LPFM broadcaster and I'm facinated by what I think you are talking about - it sounds...
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Radio Pacific/Foveaux Radio Man... not with Radio Pacific I take it anymore? DAB = digital audio broadcasting. Using mpeg audio compression similat to what...
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In this respect I wish the entire country had cable like the states... Then we could use real digital quality without a headache of accquiring bandwidth. ...
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Hi Mike DAB is essentially a single, wide band carrier signal with a number of programmes broadcast simultaneously. The receiver tunes to a particular...
Andrew Dyke
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Hi Anthony What do you know about LPF ? How dare you implay that I Understand little about LPFM. From the sounds of your reply and Mulchers postings, you seem...
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HI guys there is so much talk going on, but no one seems to be mentioning anything about this new Indian crowd on 88. FM on LPFM. Is it ok to Occupy two...
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Presume after 1 July They not supposed to link anyway-perhaps they can run as stand alone Txs anywhere. The alternative is that lpfm operators after so much ...
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