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Re: [LPFM] The dilemma of UP FM

> You can start to see why licenced frequencies are licenced - the
> licences give them protection against interference and prevent these
> sort of situations developing.

...and the reason unlicenced operators need to meet together to
discuss problems such as these in an attempt to find a mutually
beneficial agreement. Perhaps even a case for a centralised body to
maintain a register of frequencies - but that will come up on the
agenda (to be posted this afternoon).

To date, I have the following broadcasters confirmed as having
representation at the meeting of Auckland LPFM-ers next week:

Static
Twisted
Up FM
TLC Radio
Radio Chomsky
The Flea
KFM
Radio Southern Cross
Base FM
Spider FM
Bay Classics
Hope City


So far, no word from Julia, Fleet, or CBFM - but I've sent them all
invitation emails. Nothing from Wairau either (not sure how to get in
touch with them directly yet) - and I'm not altogether sure who is
responsible for the Tourist FM signal.

Come to think of it, I should probably get in touch with the NZ
Foundation for the Blind - don't they operate a transmitter in the
Newmarket/Parnell area?

Apna have declined with thanks (understandably), but Shyam has asked
to have a meeting with me privately. Might be another thing
altogether, but are there any pressing issues you'd like me to raise
with respect to operation of the low power FM band when I go for a
chat with him? Email me off the list for that one please...

There are also a couple of independent technical types, one or two
potential new broadcasters and one of my students, who has been
charged with the duty of relaying the content of the meeting to the
other members of his class.

I have deliberately left MED representation out of it for now - partly
because they're busy people (who isn't?), but mostly because it would
make sense for the LPFM broadcasters to decide what their position on
including them in such meetings might be...

Anyone else I'm missing?

Cheers,

Dubber



Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:59 pm

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UP FM is still causing me great problems. I have had listeners tell me that it comes in clearly in Manukau City, which has got to mean that they are way over...
Robert S Dew
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Jun 10, 2004
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They could be on a hill? As 88.2 when Tourist used to broadcast it got over a large part of the city with its West Auckland translator. Michael Robert S Dew...
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Jun 10, 2004
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They are on the side of Mt Hobson, but to drown me out in all directions seems a little more than a high location given that I'm 7.5 Km from them...
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Jun 10, 2004
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Hi all, Time for some theory: A LPFM station radiating -3dBW (0.5W EIRP), on a good site, with no obstructions, has the following reach: Urban grade stereo...
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I have uploaded to the Files section here a PDF file from http://www.internews.ru/books/radiohandbook/index.html which covers a lot of theory in layman-speak...
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Jarra is trying to tell me that if I reduce my deviation I wouldn't have the cross channel interference that I'm getting from him. Can anybody tell me if this...
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Jun 14, 2004
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He told me the same thing. We had UPFM's own tech (well, the guy they contract) to come tune our gear and in reality it didn't make any difference at all.... ...
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Jun 14, 2004
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They should allow Auckland to use 87.8 to 88.4 due to the restrictions and 88.4 is fairly useless anyway. Michael Matt Camp <matt@...> wrote: He told...
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Hi Robert, My understanding is that the deviation is not related to range to any extent. Here is an extract from my TX manual: 6. Connect an audio source to...
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I'm hopeful of being there, just depends on my work schedule, and that I don't know for sure until 9pm the night before. Robert...
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... Sounds like B/S to me If you reduce your deviation, your modulation peaks will be less noticeable to his listeners, and your listeners will notice an...
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Basically I don't want to spend the money to run the Tx remotely, besides it cost several thousand to get the crane in to install the 15 M mast that I have. ...
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Hi Bob, Don't confuse the 75kHz deviation with meaning that you occupy 75kHz of spectrum bandwidth You need to consider Carsons Rule The maximum deviation...
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Jun 14, 2004
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... ...and the reason unlicenced operators need to meet together to discuss problems such as these in an attempt to find a mutually beneficial agreement....
Andrew Dubber
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Jun 14, 2004
10:59 pm

Totally agree that cooperation is the best way to go. But even with cooperation how do you address the issue of trying to fit a baker's dozen into a 12-egg...
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Jun 14, 2004
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Now there is a novel idea - except it means a change in management rights for Government spectrum - and thus it needs to happen at probably Ministerial level ...
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Andrew, I'm interested in attending - as an independent technical type, without any affiliation to any station. Would there be room for me? Do I have to bring...
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And of course you'd ask for 87.5 to 88.4 as most radios tune down to 87.5 J ... Now there is a novel idea - except it means a change in management rights for...
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Adding more frequencies could well provide a short term fix, but I would be of the mind that even if more frequencies were added, they would all get gobbled up...
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There was, presume still is, a 40 channel land mobile service which finishes at 87.95Mhz, which is why 88.0 is not included in the LPFM guardband. I searched...
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