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The MPX will only operate on a 192KHz sample rate card in order to get (divide the sample rate by two) 96KHz bandwidth out a single channel on the sound card. 96KHz sampling on cards (the majority of 24 bit ones)isn't quite enough either at only 48KHz of audio bandwidth since I think FM is around 53KHz wide.
 
 
After John released the first free processor a few days ago I immediately thought of you guys so thought I'd subscribe back up and let you know about it. It's designed though for cards with ASIO drivers, not standard windows WDM drivers etc... This way it reduces latency and controls the cards audio level directly rather than via the windows mixer which can ad some chunkyness to the level controls etc...
 
It will run on 16bit ASIO drivers in 48KHz mode, which just offers normal audio bandwidth processing without the MPX feature. I don't think Sonos II is a directx plugin. The older MBL4 plugin for sonos also came as a directx plug-in, however the newer Sonos II is a stand alone application (server and tcp/ip client) which can also encode aac and mp2 etc... to a shoutcast server. BTW, if you're PC's not grunty enough or you don't have a sound card etc.. to use Sonos II, download the older Sonos programme (which doesn't come with multiband anymore) but it does have a simple wideband AGC and limiter etc.. with pre-emphasis processing if you ever need a basic processor.
 
Yes I've had a look at sound solution a few times, however I find it very tricky to get the exact sound I want. Once I had the mbl4 plugin before it was completely discontinued I was sold on John's programming. He was invovled with coding the Inovonics Omega FM units I believe. He also has a simple streaming player available aswell as a winamp substitute with RMS/Peak level display and plays teh audio slower as it buffers to prevent more silent gaps in bad congestion etc...
 
Gavin.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Ross Levis
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LPFM]

And the other question is: can it be used on a normal 44.1k soundcard without MPX switched on?
 
Ross.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ross Levis
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [LPFM]

Hey Gavin
 
It almost sounds like you are describing the free Sound Solution Winamp DSP compressor/limiter.
 
Many Winamp and StationPlaylist broadcasting software users use this plugin.
 
RMS or Peak based settings, Gated AGC, Independent settings for 5 bands adjusting the ratio, threshold, attach, release, and even has a band gain so you can boost one band over another, like an equalizer.  You can configure different settings for the compressor, expander, and limiter for all 5 bands.  It has adjustable band linking, and a 2 band final limiter with a clipper control, and I believe this is look ahead clipper so no flat top distortion.
 
It has a 15khz frequency limiter and preemphasis at 50 or 75uS.  But it doesn't have an MPX generator.
 
But I'm interested in where I can download the Sonos free DSP.  Is it a DirectX DSP?
 
Regards,
Ross.
 
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I forgot to ad, MBL/Sonos also has gated AGC like sound solution aswell, gated multiband compressors, gated multiband limiter etc... and configurable rest...
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The MPX will only operate on a 192KHz sample rate card in order to get (divide the sample rate by two) 96KHz bandwidth out a single channel on the sound card....
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3 band for lower CPU I should say. ... From: Gavin & Sandy To: LPFM_Radio@... Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [LPFM] I forgot...
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One other small thing, be patient with an offical help file. There's only basic instructions on the his website for Sonos II at this stage. ... From: Gavin &...
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hmmm, if someone wants a optimod software program i have one, just let me know ill up laod it to the files section, yes its the same as the one sold on ebay,...
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Yeah go on. Upload it. We'll all have a wee looky. Cheers andy roberts <piratefm2001@...> wrote: hmmm, if someone wants a optimod software program i...
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Yes please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Ethan...
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Wait for StationPlaylist v4.0 which makes it much easier to use DSP plugins. It will literally take 2 ticks in Studio's options. Due out end of May. Ross. ...
Ross Levis
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Apr 7, 2006
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Sonos II is also free. BTW, does anyone know of any streaming software (I know it's available via hardware gear) that can send rs232 data from the serial port...
Gavin & Sandy
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By the way, I just did some seraching in the LPFM forum's which I can't do much of until I figure otu my old Yahoo ID and password (since I don't give my...
Gavin & Sandy
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Hi Gavin, Great to see you knocking around too :) While I'm here - has anyone had easy success with streaming shoutcast/winamp through a d-link broadband modem...
Russ - The Jade
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Apr 8, 2006
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... D-Link modem? is that one of those Broadband Modems that Xtra were selling in package from most shops for around $150, that has network outlets for 4 ...
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Thanks Geoff..... Will go and reset the firmware and see what happens. Russ ... From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...]On...
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Hello Russ, Use Port forwarding and open Port 8000 Go into the D-Link setup and forward port 8000 to your shoutcast server.. I have just setup streaming for...
Johnno
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Hey Russ, I have a D-Link 302, the one's that Xtra sent otu before moving to the newer one's that don't crash from overheating. The 302 can do streaming...
Gavin & Sandy
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Thanks Gavin, Yeah I have both types - a 302 and a 504g - Dont rate either of them that much but Telecom know better apparently :) Russ From:...
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Actually we could do with something that drives 2 sets of headphones from one source... Dean Groove 107.7FM PO Box 10989 The Terrace Wellington Ph 04-381 4766...
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Sep 20, 2006
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Something like this? http://www.rolls.com/new/ha43.html I have an older rolls headphone amp.. One source in (or inserts for each headphone jack) 6 headphone...
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Here you go Hon David Cunliffe 3/10/2006 Four new FM stations likely in each region Government decisions announced today will provide for up to four new FM...
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Please keep us informed. ... From: Phil Grey To: LPFM_Radio@... Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:21 AM Subject: RE: [LPFM] I have tuned in,...
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Well, so far there's this, which tells us five-eighths of f - all regarding LPFM. http://www.rsm.govt.nz/spp/vhf-fm/media/minister-20061003.html Phil Grey ...
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this is more useful - http://www.rsm.govt.nz/spp/vhf-fm/cab-minute-20060726/index.html and in particular Low Power FM Broadcasting (LPFM) 1.. 10. noted that...
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I think it's reasonable to ask just waht those "wider considerations of equity and competition with existing broadcasters" actually are. I've written to MED to...
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So commercial radio got what it wanted (which is a new regulation they can use to strangle us with) and the minister got to say he gave us a 'modest' increase...
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You got a doubling of your power levels Whilst the net amount is still low, a 3dB increase is still a 3dB increase, and it is still a doubling of your power. ...
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Sadly, Jochen, a 3 dB increase in our remote rural area gives us diddly squat. It's the difference between a slice of bread and a currant bun. I fail to...
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A measly 1 watt. Well better than nothing I suppose. But I'm concerned about the transmitter height. Do they mean antenna height above the ground where the...
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I too am concearned about the height. Without our current height our signal would be gobbled up by the neighbours. I don't think a doubling of power would make...
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Hi group, I support height restriction for LPFM. Many LPFMers who are fortunate to either live on the side of a hill overlooking some of their broadcast area,...
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We are a good example of that. We've gone through an awful amount of trial and error (and money) to find a good site but it is basically a tall building...
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