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Re: [LPFM] APRA/RIANZ (PPNZ)


the fees charged by the apra and rianz are not exorbitant, and even if they were, those organisations set the rules the music licensing. So you can either follow the rules by paying what they ask in order to legally operate your LPFM station, or alternatively refuse to pay, and face the consequences. Moaning about the APRA fee is not unlike complaining to your local power company about the price of electricity. Operating a LPFM station is for many a hobby, and as with most hobbies, there is invariably a cost involved. After all, whether you decide to while away your time talking into a microphone, or by shooting deer, cleaning spouting or crutching sheep, you are going to incur expenses along the way.
 
incidentally Ethan, as you're operating a stream of your station on your website, you ought be paying apra an additional $600 + GST a year for this privilege.
 
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----- Original Message -----
From: Kead@...
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [LPFM] APRA/RIANZ (PPNZ)

I agree. We dont make any money out of this, we are promoting other peoples music. Apra & Rainz is about $350 together each year. This is alot of money, I agree APRA need to rethink there pricing

Aparantly they bill in september, they have time to change it.

Regards


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brent@...> wrote:
> No Doubt many of you might have been contacted by the licensing
> authorities. APRA are doing a major push at present with
> Bars/Restaurants and now LPFM.
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> While I am happy to pay $100 to RIANZ (PPNZ) and that seems
> fair....not that we run commercials so it's just a cost! Just got a
> contract from APRA and they want $200 PA. This is double what RIANZ
> charge and APRA normally charge bars/restaurants less than this and
> are normally far less than RIANZ.
>
> I was e-mailed by Emma. Dunno what you guys think but I have told them
> to rethink the pricing as I am not prepared to pay this much. While I
> can't imagine you want to proactively e-mail....cos you'll end up with
> a bill like mine! I think it's worthwhile going back to them with a
> similar response if you get the message.
>
> Thoughts
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I agree. We dont make any money out of this, we are promoting other peoples music. Apra & Rainz is about $350 together each year. This is alot of money, I...
Kead@...
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Jun 30, 2006
12:52 am

the fees charged by the apra and rianz are not exorbitant, and even if they were, those organisations set the rules the music licensing. So you can either...
Tony Katavich
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Jun 30, 2006
1:17 am

RIANZ should be paying us to promote their music. Many listeners have contacted me asking what was playing and where to buy it. I don't get any commission on...
Ross Levis
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Jun 30, 2006
2:01 am

quite, one doesn't get commission on music sales derived from your station, but the same goes for everything else that goes to air. If one promotes the old...
Tony Katavich
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Jun 30, 2006
2:29 am

I have to agree with Tony's point of view below. Even a non-pofit station still has expenses, and apra/ranz should be part of the equation. Because of this,...
Gavin & Sandy
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Jun 30, 2006
2:59 am

I guess the other way to look at it is: You are not allowed to legally "format shift". SO.... Buy a cheap fm transmitter (even if it is one of those cheap jobs...
Russ - The Jade
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Jun 30, 2006
3:18 am

While I have no problem, other than the pain of writing the cheque, with paying Apra Rianz their dues, what does get up my nose is that none of the money ever ...
Robert S Dew
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Jun 30, 2006
6:21 am

I dont think that is exactly true Robert. Are you claiming that NONE of the funds go to the artists from Apra? Russ ... From: LPFM_Radio@... ...
Russ - The Jade
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Jun 30, 2006
6:36 am

On many occasions I've had artists say what happens to the royalties that TLC Radio pays as they never see anything. Basically, if you divide the money we pay...
Robert S Dew
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Jun 30, 2006
7:04 am

Given that I started this...thought I might make it clear what I have a problem with...... I have no problem paying monies to APRA and RIANZ. My whole point ...
kixfm2002
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Jun 30, 2006
9:49 am

... Are you saying the fees don't even meet the cost of their own administration? You're probably right. In which case no one is benefitting from this ...
Aaron
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Jun 30, 2006
9:29 am

Just a thought ( if thinking is allowed?? ), For a country of our size...Why do we have Two companies collecting fees off us. Would it not make more sense to...
kiwiradio
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Jun 30, 2006
5:47 pm

Yeah, that would be a good idea. I can't see a reason why they *have* to be separate. Combine them and they can split the monies in various ways and everyone...
Edwin Hermann
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Jun 30, 2006
11:11 pm

That would be a good idea. At least if you haev to file a report for a commercial, you don't need to send two reports in, one for APRA and one for PPNZ. PPNZ...
Gavin & Sandy
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Jun 30, 2006
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