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Re: [LPFM] Advice on setting up audio stream   Message List  
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Re: [LPFM] Advice on setting up audio stream

Another open-standards alternative would be QuickTime Broadcaster - also
free (see http://www.apple.com/quicktime/broadcaster/) which uses AAC
for audio.

Or there's ShoutCast (see www.shoutcast.com), another free product
delivering MP3 for your audio.

Those solutions should make your stream more accessible than a closed
Windows Media solution.

Of course the main problem will be bandwidth and data caps, which is why
it's probably better to have a single stream up to a provider's server
who then have the capacity to on-stream to many listeners, albeit at a
price! You will get better 'mileage' from QuickTime broadcaster than
you would with Shoutcast because AAC has a lower filesize-to-quality
ratio than MP3.

Let's say you had a 96kbps stream. One listener continuously connected
will chew through 30 Gb of data per month. Two listeners and it's 60 Gb
per month. The good news is that if you had a 256k upstream broadband
plan then that's all you could support as the third listener would
saturate your connection and max it out at 80 Gb per month.

That's a lot of data and a lot of money!!

I suppose you could argue that there may be times when no-one would be
connected but the problem is you can't really control that. You'd have
to monitor your usage and go "off air" if you find you're going through
too much bandwidth. Or, limit the number of connections to 1 or 2.

While self-streaming is doable, the more you look at it the more
attractive a hosted solution looks.

Edwin.




Herb wrote:
> You could download Windows Media Encoder for free from the microsoft
> website and stream straight from your pc. I have a mate whose
> preparing for an LPFM launch and is currently testing it.
>
> The good thing about the media encoder is that it's small in file
> size, operates using Windows Media Player (which all Windows-based
> PC's have preloaded), can be configured how you like, you can also
> provide a dial-up and hi-speed option as well. Oh, and did I mention
> it's FREE?
>
> So, the only costs associated are the ISP charges. My mate is
> fortunate to have a TCL (TelstraClear) residential cable connection
> (2meg up/down 10G $50p/m). Remember, if you are streaming and have no
> one listening, there is no traffic so no usage. The only usage will be
> when someone is listening.
>
> The downside to the media encoder is that you can't limit how many can
> be on at once. This isn't so bad because your ISP upload limit should
> kick in to take care of that.
>
> Worth a look! Hope that helps.
>
> Cheers,
> Herb.
>




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I will recommend... Format: AAC+ Bitrate: 48kb/s Stream Host: www.mediacast1.com (Currently have a special on AAC+ streams). This produces better than FM...
Ross Levis
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Jul 8, 2006
3:32 pm

G'day, yes,but the only hassle with AAC+ is that winamp 5 and up can only receive it.Plus there is a $10 startup fee with mediacast 1 on top of the price. 73 ...
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Jul 9, 2006
6:22 am

Yeah, players that can play AAC+ are limited but growing in number. It will be the standard stream format eventually. But using MP3 will need a 112kb/s stream...
Ross Levis
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Jul 9, 2006
8:22 am

G'day Ross, the costs to stream,in my view,are not as cheap as they should be and both Australian and NZ companies are not cheap either.There are lots of...
nri3
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Jul 9, 2006
10:46 pm

You could download Windows Media Encoder for free from the microsoft website and stream straight from your pc. I have a mate whose preparing for an LPFM launch...
Herb
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Jul 11, 2006
8:24 am

Another open-standards alternative would be QuickTime Broadcaster - also free (see http://www.apple.com/quicktime/broadcaster/) which uses AAC for audio. Or...
Edwin Hermann
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Jul 11, 2006
8:55 am

What it boils down to is this.. The amount of listeners you have on-line at any one time, and over a monthly period. This is LPFM where our listenership isn't...
Herb
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Jul 11, 2006
9:27 am

... Herb - I just checked and indeed Windows Media player cannot yet play AAC (MPEG-4) files. How backward! Especially given that MPEG-4 is an ISO standard. ...
Edwin Hermann
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Jul 11, 2006
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... (As winamp has been licenced by Orban to use AAC+ in it's players and streams) ... Why isn't it attractive to dowload,there are so many variations on...
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Jul 11, 2006
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G'day, it's not that hard to do,especially using winamp source etc. I stream through live365 and also shoutcast through servers with Hard drives,so if i can...
nri3
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Jul 11, 2006
11:33 am

... I'm referring to AAC, not AAC+. ... Because - and this is what Herb was getting at I think - users don't want to download anything extra. If they click on...
Edwin Hermann
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Jul 11, 2006
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G'day, points taken, many thanks Tim 73 ... ____________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out gigs in your area on the...
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Jul 11, 2006
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Forget streaming from your own PC. 10 gigs a month allows for 1 listener at 24kb/s. You probably have slightly higher figures than that in mind! DSL and...
Ross Levis
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Jul 11, 2006
9:19 am

I think your figures are way on the low side Edwin. I'm streaming at 28kb/s and it uses about 13GB a month upload traffic. And note that Nullsoft added...
Ross Levis
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Jul 11, 2006
9:33 am

... They were purely theoretical, but someone might be able to point out where I've made a mistake. I calculated as follows: 96 kbits is equivalent to 12 kb. ...
Edwin Hermann
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Jul 11, 2006
10:21 am

Your missing the IP header overhead which will vary as a %age based on the audio packet size, and since shoutcast is stupid and uses TCP, there is a whole lot...
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Jul 11, 2006
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I stuffed up with the links, sorry. Try again. Here is Virgin Radio (Live in London). A 32kb/s stream. http://aacplus-vr-32.smgradio.com/listen.pls And here...
Ross Levis
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Jul 11, 2006
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