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Re: [LPFM] Civil Defense & LPFM

Hi Mike

A friend of mine has commented on the response to the recent
large earthquakes in the southern ocean and the possible
tsunami threat to Invercargill:

http://wildland.owdjim.gen.nz/?p=457

I'm not going to pass any comment on Ken's observations, but
it may be a bit of "food for thought" on how much effort RNZ
is putting into Civil Defense :-(

Cheers, Chris

Mike Bailey wrote:
>
>
> As a member of the Invercargill Civil Defence rescue and responce team
> (and someone trying to set up a LPFM station down here!), I'll chip in
> on this.
>
> In any event where Civil Defence is called out, I'd suggest taking your
> stations offline. This means one less room/building that is being
> powered in what could be an unstable building. Until your studio and its
> building has been checked out by a structural engineer and an
> electrician you have no idea what state the building or its power system
> is in. In these situations too, power supplies are regularly shut down
> too, rendering your station useless anyway.
>
> The last thing you want to do in an emergency is dash down to your
> station (if noone is there) to change it across to National Radio after
> an event like an earthquake.
>
> Anyway, thats my two cents. Good idea, but I don't think its practical.
>
> Cheers
> Michael Bailey
>
> On 10/11/07, *Gavin Stephens* <gstephens@...
> <mailto:gstephens@...>> wrote:
>
> Just on the same thought and hence getting around to replacing the
> subject;
>
> We had a good length but reasonbly tame quake down here aswell with
> all these little shake ups lately.
>
> I wonder if the best practice would to make sure an LPFM operator
> can take a feed of National Radio if they have reasonble means to
> do if still broadcasting? This would be providing National Radio
> provided the best response to both national and regional state of
> emergencies?
>
> Has anyone approached other regional stations to find out who would
> be the best station to simulcast appart from themselves depending on
> their operation?
>
> With national being carried on the freeview transponder now
> (although on Sky's service for a long time now), I wonder if taking
> a satellite feed from national would be wise in such an event. I
> also wonder whether it would be the first transmission medium
> affected. At a first guess satellite might be more reliable than
> electricity going out everywhere or optic cable being disrupted.
>
> Just a few thought provoking questions, hopefully. I'm sure it's
> been discussed before but a topic that should pop up now and then.
>
> Cheers,
> Gavin.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gavin Stephens <mailto:gstephens@...>
> *To:* LPFM_Radio@...
> <mailto:LPFM_Radio@...>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 11, 2007 3:53 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [LPFM] Looking for half brother
>
>
> That's about right.
>
> Didn't someone mentioned at some stage that there was a
> consideration of re-evaluating the upper guard band? As in
> thinking of knocking back on some upper frequencies available
> for LPFM use?
>
> I must go have a swat up on the M.E.D. site, I haven't been
> there for a while.
>
> Just a thought, we had an automated emergency evacuation system
> go off at Rugby Park in Invercargill recently. I thought it was
> a civil defense siren going off since I couldn't quite make out
> the message from the other end of the city.
>
> At the same time emergency service vehicles were dispatched and
> they were dwarfed by this other siren. Turns out the emergency
> services were involed in a car chase that was unrelated.
>
> However it made me re-think about the civil defense response
> system again in NZ compared with the likes of the EAS system in
> the states. How have other stations liased with civil defense in
> the possability that a state of emergency in an LPFM operators
> area should occur?
>
> I wonder if the tri-opoly networks have policy in place for this
> aswell.
>
> Gavin.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Ross Levis <mailto:ross@...>
> *To:* LPFM_Radio@...
> <mailto:LPFM_Radio@...>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 11, 2007 3:32 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [LPFM] Looking for half brother
>
>
>
> Perhaps we are still holding our breath for the 1 watt
> increase and most have died!
>
>
>
> *From:* LPFM_Radio@...
> <mailto:LPFM_Radio@...>
> [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...
> <mailto:LPFM_Radio@...>] *On Behalf Of *Gavin
> Stephens
> *Sent:* Thursday, 11 October 2007 9:56 a.m.
> *To:* LPFM_Radio@...
> <mailto:LPFM_Radio@...>
> *Subject:* Re: [LPFM] Looking for half brother
>
>
>
> Appologies LPFM'ers!!! I replied to the wrong email.
>
>
>
> I'll get it right next time.
>
>
>
> I've noticed the LPFM groups have been a little quiet appart
> from the occasion message now and then.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gavin.
>
>
>

--
Chris Mackerell, P.O. Box 2241, Wellington 6140, New Zealand
Telephone: +64 (4) 232-4216 Fax: +64 (4) 232-4218
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Just on the same thought and hence getting around to replacing the subject; We had a good length but reasonbly tame quake down here aswell with all these...
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As a member of the Invercargill Civil Defence rescue and responce team (and someone trying to set up a LPFM station down here!), I'll chip in on this. In any...
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Oct 11, 2007
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Hi Mike A friend of mine has commented on the response to the recent large earthquakes in the southern ocean and the possible tsunami threat to Invercargill: ...
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Oct 12, 2007
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They put no effort in - it is up to MCDEM to ask them to broadcast any messages. Also, at that stage there was no word from GNS about the quake, so nothing to...
Mike Bailey
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Oct 12, 2007
11:53 pm

I can understand the safety aspect of a building. However, some LPFM operators operate from a residential address, making a cheap $200 petrol generator work...
Gavin Stephens
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Oct 11, 2007
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I agree - where possible, this would be a good idea. I know we already have memorandums of understanding with the major broadcasters to get messages on air as...
Mike Bailey
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Oct 12, 2007
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When commercial operators can't get their act together I doubt that LPFM operators would stand much chance of knowing what's required in an emergency. When I...
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