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Re: [LPFM] Reducing output signal

Geoff's right. The easiest way to reduce power is to use more coax. The
data is in the back of the Dick Smith catalog. If I remember correctly the
spec for rg-58 is 16.1 db loss per 100 meters of line at 100 mHz.

If you're just going to use it as a link then you could also drop the
output a lot and use directional antennas. That would minimise
interference as well.

There is another possibility that I haven't tried, and maybe some has and
can comment. That is to use one of the good quality a/v senders that use
the 2.4 gig (free) band. There is one made by Digisender that lets you use
directional, external antennas and will cover a good distance.

John

On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:13:39 +1300, Geoff Barkman <barknet@...>
wrote:
> Probably the cheapest/way to reduce power is to add attentuation to the
> aerial lead.
> Add length to the cable... not sure of exact figures but adding 10
> metres to aerial lead will lower output power.
> Or make a 3 resistor wire network to reduce power. At a guess you need 3
> - 5 db of attentuation on your transmitter.
> Any amateur radio club or RT installer should be able to give you the
> appropriate values to use. The ARRL (American Amateur radio league)
> published stuff in their hand book about this.
> Modifying your transmitter is tricky because it could upset the internal
> tuning of it... making it unstable. Also make sure there is no external
> controls for adjusting power... not sure how adding aerial attenuation
> fits into this rule.
> Cheers
> Geoff Barkman
>
> Michael Rowse wrote:
>> Heya guys,
>>
>> Anybody got any bright ideas on how to reduce the signal coming out of
>> the back of the transmitter? We have a one watt transmitter but wish
>> to reduce it down to approx 300mW so as not to interfere with another
>> close station. (we are going to be using this TX as a link system)
>> Would some kind of attenuator do the trick or is there another method?
>> The cheaper the better.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>



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Heya guys, Anybody got any bright ideas on how to reduce the signal coming out of the back of the transmitter? We have a one watt transmitter but wish to...
Michael Rowse
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Feb 13, 2008
5:33 pm

Probably the cheapest/way to reduce power is to add attentuation to the aerial lead. Add length to the cable... not sure of exact figures but adding 10 metres...
Geoff Barkman
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Feb 13, 2008
8:13 pm

Geoff's right. The easiest way to reduce power is to use more coax. The data is in the back of the Dick Smith catalog. If I remember correctly the spec for...
John Peterson
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Feb 13, 2008
8:40 pm

Speaking of 2.4GHz spectrum. I just hooked up some 600mW Wi-Fi PCI cards to have a look at the 2.4GHz spectrum in Invercargill. The amount of wireless LANs is...
Gavin Stephens
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Feb 14, 2008
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This is of interest to me, as I need to move my transmitter for a few weeks while decorating the studio. I have a 7 metre coax extension lead. Will this cause...
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Feb 14, 2008
9:46 am

Hello Grant, Will be a little loss in TX power... now to get my calculator out :))) If your TX is out putting 500mw @ 88.4 MHZ, SWR of 1:1 at 7 meters of coax ...
Johnno
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Feb 14, 2008
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That's great Johnno.. Thanks for the info :) Cheers, Grant ... of coax...
grantthoms
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Feb 15, 2008
9:22 am

Hey Johnno, Studying your figures, it seems that RG58A has a loss of 13mW per metre? So would I be right in saying to get a 1 watt TX down to approx. 300mW or...
Michael Rowse
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Feb 14, 2008
5:57 pm

The figures are based on the Freq Range, SWR ratio (ie: 1:1) and the cable that is being used... If we use 88.4 mhz, 1 Watt, SWR 1:1 and using RG58A = 39...
Johnno
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Feb 14, 2008
7:34 pm

I've been watching all the suggestions for reducing power and that is a simple and practical way of dealing with it. However if you have the schematic diagram...
averagesteward
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Feb 14, 2008
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Unfortunately it's not as simple as working it out to a mW per meter. That's why things are done in dB. For example, driving a coax cable with a known loss of...
Gavin Stephens
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Feb 15, 2008
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You can make yourself a simple T attenuator with a loss of about 5.2dB Close to that value will suffice as its not exactly critical. Build it in a tin box with...
Keith
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Feb 15, 2008
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By the way, it's 500mW eirp, output from the antenna... Cheers Dean Groove 107.7FM PO Box 10 989 Wellington Ph 381 4766 (381GROOVE) Fax 381 4755 Mob 021-457...
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Thanks for those, Gavin. D. ... From: Gavin Stephens To: LPFM_Radio@... Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [LPFM] Re:Reducing...
Groove 107.7FM
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Feb 15, 2008
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That coax cable one is handy but I've just finally noticed the power budget one isn't right. It asks for dBm on a lot of things and provides answers in dB when...
Gavin Stephens
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Feb 15, 2008
11:42 am

... Reduce the drive to the final output - usually by reducing the voltage supplied to it. The final will last longer and run cooler....
wireless.radio
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Feb 16, 2008
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Hey guys, I just realised that I never actually thanked everyone for their ideas on reducing the signal output. Shame on me. So....thanks everyone! We have...
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Mar 1, 2008
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