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It is becoming apparent that more and more commercial operators are
"double dipping" and utilising guardband frequencies in addition to
their licenced frequencies - often to get their program into regions
where no commercial frequencies are available.
This is TOTALLY unacceptable.
Guardband frequencies were not designed for this - nor is it ethical
for an operator who is already on the air to take over a frequency
that should be available for LPFM operators and those who are unable
to purchase a commercial frequency.
This is not an issue that requires policing as such - it simply
requires a policy change (addition of ONE clause in the regulations)
for it to be effective. If it was then found that a commercial
operator was using a guardband frequency it would be a simple matter
of a phonecall by RSM to the offending operator advising them to cease
the use of the frequency.

Given the fact that commercial operators (read "paying clients") are
pandered to by RSM because of the almighty dollar, it seems in some
respects that they have tacit approval to use these frequencies. This
has to stop.

I urge all LPFM operators to lobby the RSM to stop the use of
guardband frequencies by any operator who currently uses a commercial,
high-power or community frequency.





Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:33 am

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It is becoming apparent that more and more commercial operators are "double dipping" and utilising guardband frequencies in addition to their licenced...
wireless.radio
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Mar 16, 2008
6:33 am

I would take this further and request a clause that prevents operators of LPFM stations from having any revenue at all....
Edwin Hermann
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Mar 16, 2008
7:32 am

There are plenty of commercial LPFM operators on this list that will disagree. I'm not making any money, in fact it's costing me $250 a month to be on the air...
Ross Levis
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Mar 16, 2008
7:55 am

Interesting conversation. Personally, I have no issue with commercial operators using LPFM frequencies *where* they don't have frequencies. Probably the...
Jesse Archer
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Mar 16, 2008
8:50 am

My 2c worth 2 is If the station is registered with the charities commission then it is a not for profit group and has no taxable income. Therefore I do not see...
Charlie Fraser
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Mar 16, 2008
8:38 pm

... One lpfm in Tauranga knocked 89.0 Radio Hauraki (at the time) off air for a good few hours before RSM figured out where the broadcast was coming from. This...
wireless.radio
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Mar 18, 2008
8:44 am

Perhaps operating a second transmitter on the same channel with entirely different programming is an option. This would be enough to encourage a commercial...
Gavin Stephens
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Mar 17, 2008
12:59 am

Yep, a really interesting thread... From what I see, RGB (Rhema, etc...) operate LPFM mainly in small localities of less than say 5000. Where the population is...
Herb
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Mar 18, 2008
6:29 am

There is no LPFM is Aussie as such. There is narrowcasting where you can apply for a licence to provide a service/music format not provided in the same area...
Ross Levis
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Mar 18, 2008
6:45 am

Australia has Low Power Open Narrowcast (LPON) 1 watt (residential) 10 watt (non-residential). The content must be of "limited appeal". There are also High...
ceejay7777
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Mar 18, 2008
7:24 am

... Very good point there Herb and thank you for raising it. This would indeed kill many birds with one stone. It is mainly the major commercial networks that...
wireless.radio
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Mar 18, 2008
8:48 am

I can almost guarantee this will not happen because of Rhema, George FM, and similar networks that have put pressure on RSM to not do so. I don't see it as a...
Ross Levis
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Mar 18, 2008
10:13 am

... very valid point in regards to profesonal ethics, i agree no commercial should be using the gaurd band whatsoever, they are in the business of solely...
piratefm2007
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Mar 18, 2008
12:31 pm

We will need to start thinking about the fact that radio in 10 years will likely be all digital. That may mean the current FM band will be empty, or utilized...
Ross Levis
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Mar 19, 2008
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From some discussion I have had with TRN, DAB (satellite radio) is going to roll out some time in the next 5 years or so - but they plan to continue to run...
wireless.radio
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Mar 21, 2008
9:20 pm

... problems. What "clause" are you referring to?...
ceejay7777
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Mar 18, 2008
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I was in Hamilton last week setting up a station. Life fm part of the RBG mothership has a high poweer licene for 94.7 (if i'm correct) and are broadcasting on...
M.B&J.D Duffy
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Mar 18, 2008
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I believe it is 94.6 on Mt. Te Aroha. It put's a good signal into Tauranga also. What the hell are they doing on 88.6! That is ridiculous. Their signal is...
Ross Levis
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Mar 19, 2008
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I strongly believe LPFM has nothing to worry about. Many stream on the Internet already. Or are we still focused on the old school way of delivering...
Gavin Stephens
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Mar 23, 2008
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Yes, technology does change, and we must change with it. I think FM broadcast will be around for some time to come however. It's still a viable medium and not...
wireless.radio
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Mar 23, 2008
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One thing we can learn from past experience is that things take a lot longer to change than you might think. I think WirelessRadio is right in saying that FM...
Edwin Hermann
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Mar 24, 2008
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That's right. Who's watching movies on Blue Ray HD discs. I think I'll be using DVD for several more years. From: LPFM_Radio@......
Ross Levis
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Mar 24, 2008
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One thing we can learn from past experience is that things take a lot longer to change than you might think. I think WirelessRadio is right in saying that FM...
Edwin Hermann
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Mar 24, 2008
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... From: Ross Levis To: LPFM_Radio@... Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [LPFM] Commercial licence holders using guardband...
Keith
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Mar 24, 2008
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