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Story in TDN: Tune in, turn on, get miffed   Message List  
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Re: Story in TDN: Tune in, turn on, get miffed

Ahhh, such is the nature of LPFM...

IMHO he's doing nothing wrong legally. Morally? Prolly not either.

Me thinks that's the risk you take being on LPFM. Want security? Do
some research and, if possible, have a frequency engineered for your
situation.

Whatever happens, I hope the crowd on 106.7 don't resort to getting a
higher powered tx. That'll only make it worse for them and LPFM as a
whole. Maybe they should move elsewhere?

Herb.

--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Peter Shaw" <akwccr@...> wrote:
>
> FYI, this email sent out to the LPFM distribution group:
>
> To: LPFM Group2
> Subject: (fwd) Story in TDN: Tune in, turn on, get miffed -
> 20081014-One Christian Radio upsetting LPFM Broadcaster in New Plymouth
> From: P R Shaw
> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:46:34 +1300
>
> From the virtual pen of Society member Ray Mankelow, a reference to
> this interesting article about an LPFM dispute in New Plymouth. It
> appears to be quite a bitter dispute that is taking place there.
>
> Article is at the link below; the text from the article is copied
> after that.
>
> The pertinent point amid all the rhetoric lies in these two paragraphs:
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> "Ministry of Economic Development Radio Spectrum Management compliance
> manager Chris Brennan said the terms of the low-powered FM licence
> clearly stated there was no interference protection and two stations
> could broadcast on exactly the same frequency if they wanted.
>
> He said they tried to encourage a level of co-ordination among
> stations, but that co-ordination appeared to have failed in New
Plymouth."
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> I pass this onto all you LPFM folk for your interest.
>
>
> BRgds,
> Peter
>
> TSOLPFMBI Secretary
> ___________________
>
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:18:49 +1300, "Ray Mankelow" wrote:
>
> >http://www.stuff.co.nz/dailynews/4726091a6002.html
> >
>
>
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
> 2008104-One Christian Radio upsetting LPFM Broadcaster in New Plymouth
> ======================================================================
>
>
> Tune in, turn on, get miffed
> By MATT RILKOFF matt.rilkoff@... - Taranaki Daily News |
> Tuesday, 14 October 2008
> Email a Friend | Printable View | Have Your Say
> MIKE SCOTT
>
> New Plymouth's Rose Proctor has two-stepped to easy-listening radio
> station 106.7FM for almost three years, but can no longer tune into
> the frequency, which is allegedly being overpowered by newly started
> One Christian Radio on 106.9FM.
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>
> Stormtroopers, threatening phone calls and a lovelorn pensioner all
> feature prominently in an almighty battle around free radio
> frequencies in New Plymouth.
>
> The usually placid airwaves of the city's free low powered FM stations
> have turned treacherous since One Christian Radio began pumping out
> tunes in August on the 106.9FM frequency.
>
> Denis Wadsworth says his low-powered station, 106.7FM, two "clicks"
> away from 106.9, is being overpowered by the Christian broadcaster,
> leaving his central city listeners with static where once they heard
> his personally chosen tunes.
>
> Mr Wadsworth says his Oriental St station has been broadcasting for
> just over 2 1/2 years and was listened to by taxi drivers, rest home
> residents and older people who appreciated the old style music and
> absence of advertising.
>
> "An old lady came up to me. She said I can't get your radio station
> anymore because of those bloody Christians," said Mr Wadsworth.
>
> He said if One Christian Radio changed its frequency to 107FM their
> competing signals would not overpower each other but the new station
> has refused to do so. "They can spread their good word. I don't give a
> damn about that but these guys are acting more like stormtroopers than
> disciples," Mr Wadsworth said.
>
> One Christian Radio managing director James Cope said the Liardet St
> station was doing nothing wrong or illegal by broadcasting on the
> 106.9 frequency, which had been chosen in accordance with expert
> advice. "I was in HR (human resources) for 35 years. I do everything
> by the book."
>
> He said he was disappointed some people wanted to disrupt what he
> described as a community station and claimed an anonymous phone call
> by a hungover man proved Mr Wadsworth was out to get him.
>
> "This is fact. He (Mr Wadsworth) said to guys over a bunch of beers
> that we're going to find a way to bring down One Christian Radio."
>
> He said other callers had questioned whether he was acting in a manner
> befitting a Christian.
>
> Mr Wadsworth said he was not responsible for what other people had
> said and would never have condoned such phone calls.
>
> However, he said he had passed Mr Cope's contact details on to some
> disgruntled listen-ers.
>
> Regardless of who is right in this CBD melee Liardet St pensioner Rose
> Procter, 82, is having to do without American tenor and Hollywood hunk
> Mario Lanza.
>
> She says the now dead singer is the love of her life and the only
> radio station on which she could hear his powerfully masculine voice
> was on 106.7FM.
>
> "I'm dead miserable," she said.
>
> Ministry of Economic Development Radio Spectrum Management compliance
> manager Chris Brennan said the terms of the low-powered FM licence
> clearly stated there was no interference protection and two stations
> could broadcast on exactly the same frequency if they wanted.
>
> He said they tried to encourage a level of co-ordination among
> stations, but that co-ordination appeared to have failed in New
Plymouth.
>
> ------------------------------
>





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FYI, this email sent out to the LPFM distribution group: To: LPFM Group2 Subject: (fwd) Story in TDN: Tune in, turn on, get miffed - 20081014-One Christian...
Peter Shaw
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Oct 14, 2008
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Ahhh, such is the nature of LPFM... IMHO he's doing nothing wrong legally. Morally? Prolly not either. Me thinks that's the risk you take being on LPFM. Want...
Herb
lpfm_bandit
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Oct 15, 2008
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Well, this has been my point all along. RSM effectively says "Free for all" on the FM band and you have every operator in creation firing up a cheap...
wireless.radio
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Oct 15, 2008
6:41 am

Hi Herb As the effected party, I'll fill you in on the details. The Christian station set up on 106.9 and effectively wiped out a large part of our listening...
Denis Wadsworth
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Oct 16, 2008
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Ah, that's the god-botherers for you .. think they have some kind of "divine" right. ... Christian station set up on 106.9 and effectively wiped out a large ...
ceejay7777
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Oct 17, 2008
3:28 am

Hi all, Sounds ok to blame the "god-botherers" lol, just don't blame God - He probably was not even asked for his permission and he certainly would not have...
averagesteward
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Oct 17, 2008
3:54 am

They probably have more of a divine right than the agnostics and atheist minority....
Edwin Hermann
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Oct 17, 2008
5:04 am

Ah, I see. So, according to you, if you believe in one particular form of god, you have more right to slam your message across the airwaves than anybody else? ...
ceejay7777
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Oct 18, 2008
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I was feeding the Troll, ceejay. Feeding the Troll who is obviously ignorant and makes sweeping generalisations. I've proved my point. Now how about you go and...
Edwin Hermann
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Oct 18, 2008
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A phrase with the words pot .. kettle ..black comes to mind. Wonder why?...
ceejay7777
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Oct 18, 2008
6:38 am

Hi Denis, Thanks for that. However, it still doesn't change my position (or the law). LPFM is unlicensed, and therefore anyone could set-up anywhere in the ...
Herb
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Oct 17, 2008
10:12 am

I thought there were rules about broadcasting the same program on another frequency with in a certain radius of the first one. In some areas there have been...
Keith
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Oct 17, 2008
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Clause 3(1) "From 1 October 2003, within a 25km radius of any broadcast transmitter there must be no more than one low power FM transmitter broadcasting...
wireless.radio
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Oct 17, 2008
8:53 am

Denis I am not familiar with the lie of the land etc but a few points do come to mind. One, ,Is it possible to shift your transmitter to higher ground, a...
Charles Graves
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Oct 18, 2008
1:56 am

That's a shame that it came to a stalemate. Someone professing to be Christian should be thinking about how to best solve a dispute like this, not leave it as...
Gavin Stephens
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Oct 18, 2008
2:37 am

Someone professing to be Christian should be thinking about how to best solve a dispute like this, not leave it as is (if one is living by spirit/faith and not...
Herb
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Oct 19, 2008
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Likewise. ... From: averagesteward To: LPFM_Radio@... Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 4:54 PM Subject: [LPFM] Re: Story in TDN: Tune in, turn on,...
Gavin Stephens
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Oct 18, 2008
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I would just like to point out that if the Christian station was a death metal format the same problem would exist. The fact that one party of this dispute is...
Adam Rubie
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Oct 18, 2008
5:33 am

I haven't heard Luke 12:51 in a while. Thanks for mentioning that Herb. Well I know Jesus didn't come to divide and destroy his fathers kingdom. If you take...
Gavin Stephens
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