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Re: [LPFM] LPFM] New LPFM Regs

Just back from a trip to Napier/Hastings.  Heard your transmission Graham for the 2 minutes I had free.

The usable frequencies are definitely 88.1,88.2,88.3 & 88.4.  The guardband is officially 88.0 to 88.5 but there is a limit on the field strength allowed outside the band.  I've only got the old RFS29 spec here but I doubt it has changed.

<quote>
Spurious emissions on any frequency not within the ranges of frequencies specified in
section (1) shall not exceed 60 dBmV/m at 10 metres (-55 dBW e.i.r.p.). The emissions shall be
measured with a spectrum analyser or test receiver, with a bandwidth conforming to the
following table:
Frequency Band Analyser/Receiver
Bandwidth
< 150 kHz           200 Hz
150 kHz to 30 MHz     9 kHz
30 MHz to 1 GHz     120 kHz (this is the one concerning us)
> 1 GHz               1 MHz

</quote>

Centering a carrier wave on 88.0, for example, would put way more than -55dBW at 87.880.

Cheers,
Ross.

SOUNDWAVE FM - Hawke's Bay's 88.40 & 107.30 FM in Napier. wrote:
Yes interesting situation.
 
I thought that the tawa station Generator was 88.50 as reported to me by one of my
presenters just before Christmas...although I stand to be corrected.
 
As I see it, you can read section 4: of the Notice 2003 two (2) ways, depending on
how you look at it:
1):    "Transmissions Must be contained within the following range of frequencies"
88.00 - 88.50 inclusive.
or
2):    "Transmissions Must be contained within the following range of frequencies"
at frequencies above 88.00 and below 88.50, based on the 0.1 seperation.
 
Urgent clarification is required on this point, as there is NO indication within the framework
of the Radiocommunications Act of 1989, and subsequent documents, that indicate that
you can, or can't use what is defined as a "Greyline" frequency ie) a frequency that is
used as a boundry indicator ie) 88.00.It is noted that Full and clear clarification was
issued in the document by Katherine Moody in May 2002, as regards to the actual frequencies
that can be used at the time June - Dec 2002.
This however has not been as clearcut in the "New" document released by Adam Freely on
the 4th Dec 2002, for the period Jan 1, 2003 - June 30th 2003.
 
Comments are most welcome
 
regards
 
Graham
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [LPFM] LPFM] New LPFM Regs

I think you'll find the tawa station is on 88.4 now. sorry, I can't confirm that though.
 
Like I said before though, to remain consistent, if they say we can use between (but not including) 88.0 88.5, then surely the same will apply at the upper end, too? IE: use of only 106.8, 106.9, 107.0, 107.1, 107.2, 107.3. Will we now loose 106.7 too?
 
Cheers,
Bryan.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [LPFM] LPFM] New LPFM Regs

Yes I agree
 
Don't The Generator operate on 88.50 from the Radio Training School, as well as Radio Lakeland
in Tokaroa, also why are there still a lot of Tourist Info stations still on the 100 - 101 Mhz Band ?
 
Carefull answers would be appreciatted.
 
Regards
 
Graham
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [LPFM] LPFM] New LPFM Regs

This is really quite interesting...
 
So, it could either mean the 88.0 + 88.5FM frequencies are now included, or (if I'm reading it right) that if the 88.0 + 88.5FM frequencies are excluded (as is currently the case, and was apparently always the case here in Wellington), to remain consistent that 106.7 is no longer available, but 107.4 is?
 
It seems as if 107.4 could either be used by a 300mW (LPFM), or 25mW(Real estate) device just by looking at the regs below... None of this seems to clear. It seems to be channel specific with 106.63, but all the other frequencies are rounded. So, maybe 106.7 isn't acceptable, but 106.75 might be (given the bandwidth, and channel spacings)? It's all a bit odd, really....
 
Maybe Andrew, our friend at RSM can help cast some light on this, if he's available to?
 
Cheers,
Bryan.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 7:00 AM
Subject: [LPFM] LPFM] New LPFM Regs

Try again..
 
Hi to you All
 
I noticed in the New Regs current till June 30th, 2003
 
that:
 
I note a couple of differences in the old freq Range for the Document issued May 2002
which says that the freq range shall be: 88.10 - 88.40
yet the new Doc issued Dec 2002 indicates 88.00 - 88.50
 
Is this correct ?

==========================

Radiocommunications Regulations (General User

Radio Licence for Low Power FM Broadcasting

Short Range Devices) Notice 2003

Pursuant to Regulation 9 of the Radiocommunications

Regulations 2001 ("the Regulations") made under section

116 (1) (b) of the Radiocommunications Act 1989, and

acting under delegated authority from the Chief Executive,

I give the following notice.

N o t i c e

1. Short title and commencement—(1) This notice is the

Radiocommunications Regulations (General User Radio

Licence for Low Power FM Broadcasting Short Range

Devices) Notice 2003.

(2) This notice comes into force on 1 January 2003.

2. General user radio licence—A general user radio

licence is granted for the transmission within the range

of frequencies specified in the licence by means of

radiocommunication transmitters known as "Low Power FM

Broadcasting Short Range Devices", "LPFM Broadcasting",

and "Real Estate Talking Homes" in accordance with the

terms, conditions and restrictions of this notice.

3. Terms, conditions and restrictions—(1) The ranges of

frequencies, and power of transmissions, permitted pursuant

to this licence are those prescribed in the Schedule to this

notice.

(2) Transmitters must conform to technical standards as

prescribed in notices made under Regulation 32 (1) (b) of

the Regulations.

(3) Frequency use is on a shared basis and the Chief

Executive does not accept liability under any circumstances

for any loss or damage of any kind occasioned by the

unavailability of frequencies, or interference to reception.

(4) Should interference occur to services licensed pursuant

to a radio licence or a spectrum licence, the Chief Executive

reserves the right to require and ensure that any transmission

pursuant to this general user radio licence change frequency,

reduce power or cease operation.

4. Period of validity of licence—This licence expires on

30 June 2003.

Schedule

Transmissions must be contained within the following

ranges of frequencies:

Frequency Maximum permitted radiated

(MHz) power (peak e.i.r.p.)

88.0 – 88.5 300 milliwatts

106.63 – 107.4 300 milliwatts

107.4 – 108.0 25 milliwatts

 

Dated at Wellington this Wednesday, the 4th day of

December 2002.

ADAM FEELEY, Acting Manager, Radio Spectrum

Management, Ministry of Economic Development.

Explanatory Note

(This note is not part of the notice, but is intended to

indicate its general effect).

This notice prescribes that, pursuant to regulation-making

powers of the Radiocommunications Act 1989, a general

user radio licence is granted for transmission on frequencies

specified in the licence by means of radiocommunication

transmitters known as "Low Power FM Broadcasting Short

Range Devices", "LPFM broadcasting", and "Real Estate

Talking Homes", in accordance with the terms, conditions,

and restrictions of this notice. This notice comes into force

on 1 January 2003 and expires on 30 June 2003.

=====================
 
Regards
 
Graham J Barclay
SOUNDWAVE FM
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P.O Box 3103
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Yes I agree Don't The Generator operate on 88.50 from the Radio Training School, as well as Radio Lakeland in Tokaroa, also why are there still a lot of...
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I think 88.0 to 88.5, means inbetween doesn't it? like it is at the moment, the actual nominated channels at 88.1, 88.2, 88.3 and 88.4 within the 88 to 88.5...
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Didn't the previou regs (or 2 ago ) say "frequency range - 88.0 to 88.5" Meaning between... If the new one doesn't specify range, then the obvious assumption...
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Yes interesting situation. I thought that the tawa station Generator was 88.50 as reported to me by one of my presenters just before Christmas...although I...
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Hi Guys Yes they did up till May 2002, Changed and became clearer in May 2002, but have now once again become unclear as of Jan 1st 2003. Qn: Can we really...
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Just back from a trip to Napier/Hastings. Heard your transmission Graham for the 2 minutes I had free. The usable frequencies are definitely 88.1,88.2,88.3 &...
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Hi Guys, Its up to RSM to Clarify not for us to lose any sleep, apathy seems to reign as far as 100.4 and 100.8 goes, do your best to comply with the law and...
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Hi everyone Happy New Year to you all. The frequency ranges indicate the absolute minimum and maximum frequency limits for each service, not the actual...
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Sounds like RSM need to send out the enforcement squad to have a word to them! There are some services already licensed in the 100-101MHz band, which should...
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