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RE: [LPFM] Minimum 400kHz spacing now?

We also have a few instances of 400khz spacing in Tauranga where the broadcast sites are several km apart.  The Waikato and Tauranga are both serviced by Mount Te Aroha (the highest peak in the Kaimai ranges) with very high-power transmissions 40+kw.  Tauranga is also serviced by Kopukairua which is a big hill in Welcome Bay (a suburb).  Concert FM and the ZM network come from Te Aroha and there are stations all around these from Kopukairua at 400khz spacing.
 
As a matter of interest, I believe the ZM frequency (89.8) was the 3rd FM frequency commissioned in NZ and the first outside of Auckland well before the dereguation.  You could listen to the station driving in the car from the Bombays in Auckland to south of Taupo.
 
Ross.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Diack - Concerta Consultants [mailto:diack@...]
Sent: Monday, 10 February 2003 11:13
To: LPFM_Radio@...
Subject: Re: [LPFM] Minimum 400kHz spacing now?

Hi Team...   This is not new as I had an allocation in our area for 2
licences with the same parameters both geographically in the same province
but physically removed from the adjacent channel by about 50 or so
kilometers...   The case in point being: I was issued 94.4 at Oban on
Stewart Island, and Radio Pacific was on 94.0 from Mt Hedgehope and the next
adjacent channel was on 94.8 at a telecom site in Gore...  (see the reter
for exact details)  I'd be most interested in the implications too, where a
channel is moved into an existing band plan where geogaphically the distance
between two stations 400 kHz is less than say 20 km's. I imagine there are
some restrictions regarding antenna direction, EIRP, and potential
interference unless you're interfering with yourself???  I'm interested
nevertheless in the methodology the MED come up with on this one...
Chris Diack...


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert S Dew" <bob@...>
To: <LPFM_Radio@...>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [LPFM] Minimum 400kHz spacing now?


> I was wondering about that as well.  Was going to try and find out where
the
> transmitter was based as I'm very interested in re-re-reapplying for a
licence
> here in Auckland
>
> If our friend from RSM in available I would like to get his comments on
this
> one and just where it is intended it will lead.
>
> Robert
>
> On 10 Feb 2003 at 9:59, Bryan Heath wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Could one be forgiven for thinking that RSM have revised their 'minimum
600 kHz'
> > spacing between broadcast FM frequencies?
> >
> > I only ask this in the light of Canwest having obtained 93.8, a
low-powered
> > frequency previously assigned to Waiheke Island. It appears Canwest are
now
> > broadcasting 'Channel Z' on this frequency, and 'The Edge' are using
94.2. It's
> > interesting because now with 93.8 being re-asigned to metro Auckland
(I'm sure
> > Canwest wouldn't have been interested if it couldn't have been
re-asigned the
> > frequency) this now leaves a 400kHz spacing between the nearest other
station,
> > that being on 93.4 - another Canwest station.
> >
> > So, should we now consider a minimum of 400kHz now? I mean, one needs to
be
> > consistent, right?
> >
> > If this is indeed the case, LPFMer's nationwide should get very excited!
> > This should open quite a few more opportunities!
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Bryan.
> >
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Sun Feb 9, 2003 11:04 pm

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Hi all, Could one be forgiven for thinking that RSM have revised their 'minimum 600 kHz' spacing between broadcast FM frequencies? I only ask this in the light...
Bryan Heath
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Feb 9, 2003
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I was wondering about that as well. Was going to try and find out where the transmitter was based as I'm very interested in re-re-reapplying for a licence ...
Robert S Dew
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Hi Team... This is not new as I had an allocation in our area for 2 licences with the same parameters both geographically in the same province but physically...
Chris Diack - Concert...
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We also have a few instances of 400khz spacing in Tauranga where the broadcast sites are several km apart. The Waikato and Tauranga are both serviced by Mount...
Ross Levis
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Feb 9, 2003
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MessageBeing in the middle of no where and hedgehope, highpeak and cargil, the 96.9 we use here still doesn't interfere with 96.6 pacific and 97.2 the edge,...
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Feb 9, 2003
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That is true for a reasonable FM tuner or car stereo but I doubt you would be able to listen to one of those stations on a bedside alarm clock radio without...
Ross Levis
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Feb 10, 2003
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As far as I am aware and thru discussions with licensing in Wgtn there are no real 'spacing' parameters. Its calculated around the existing licenses 'maximum...
Teresa & Rob
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Feb 10, 2003
4:59 am

Hi guys The 400kHz licence for CanWest in Auckland is effectively a trial to see how well it works. As others have noted, it is not a unique situation but it...
Andrew Dyke
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Feb 11, 2003
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Thanx Andrew. Well guys.... this makes things very interesting and yet this group has gone quiet. Is everyone too busy now looking at the register for a 400k...
Teresa & Rob
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Feb 12, 2003
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Shesh, even I didn't think anything over 300W would be low power! Yeah you're smack on the nail Rob, the rules only apply to off shore cashflows, not real New...
Gavin Stephens
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Feb 12, 2003
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Hi Rob I doubt it will ever happen. It's only happening in this case because Canwest own the licences either side of the frequency. I wonder what will happen ...
Ross Levis
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Feb 12, 2003
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They wouldn't even get my vote! ... From: Gavin Stephens To: LPFM_Radio@... Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [LPFM]...
Andrew Dyke
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The 93.8 frequency that Canwest is using was originally assigned to Waiheke Island. A number of people have tried to bring it to the city by RSM have always...
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