Something that I feel has been overlooked is the different "purposes"
that LPFM radio stations have.

Not all stations are there to let every man and his dog have "a go" on
the mic.  That's not to say there's adversity to this idea; on the
contrary this is a very good thing and often student radio stations have
this philosophy (typically high school and university).  Good on them, I
think this is great.

However, there are - and should be - other purposes for the existance of
LPFM radio stations.  I can only speak for myself but others may fit
into a similar category.

I imagine that Mix FM is one which you might call something that sounds
"just like a commercial station" and perhaps one with "cheesy american
stings" (note: it has British ones too!).

Firstly, the purpose of Mix FM is not necesarily to act as an "access
Radio" where random jocks have random shows.  Good for those stations
who do, but not Mix FM.
Mix FM is not necessarily one which caters to a small,
previously-uncatered-for minority.  Again, good for those stations who
do, but not Mix FM.

So what is it about then?  Mix FM is about being fun to listen to, easy
to listen to, and sound professional.

I accept that the live content on Mix FM is a less than that on Munt FM
which Claire runs.  However, we have developed what I believe to be an
entertaining and "more-ish" breakfast show (no I don't mean like More
FM, I mean more-ish as in people want more!).  It's been the focus of
the radio station for some time.

Yes, I accept that American accents don't go down too well on kiwi
radio.  Try to concentrate on the British ones...

Mix FM gives the community something that has not been there before:  a
professional-sounding radio station, that plays music everone knows,
without commcercial interruptions.  It's certainly unique in the LPFM world.

I've mentioned "professional" a few times already.  This is the base on
which Mix FM was designed.  It was my observation that - with the
exception of Kix FM and Groove FM - that most LPFM stations sounded very
unprofessional.  It was often a combination of unprofessional-sounding
jocks with music that caters for a tiny fraction of the population.

I respect this, and that is what those stations choose to do.  However,
I wanted Mix FM to be different, and perhaps this is why some might say
it sounds like a commercial station.

Don't get me wrong - I don't consider myself to be a "pro" - not in the
least bit, and not even after doing amateur announcing since 1991.
However, my AIM is to TRY to make Mix FM sound more professinal, and I
believe we're on the right track.  Not just from my own observations but
from the (many) comments I have received.

Lastly, I would love to see LPFM restricted to zero-revenue operations.
   I am a believer that this free public resource should not be used for
stations seeking to make money or even to cover costs.  Be that as it
may, the RSM rules as such don't stipulate this, so I'm not going to go
round sending emails to mailing lists suggesting that stations should
fit this model.


Edwin



claire medcalf wrote:

> Interesting discussion!
>
> Dubber - I wholeheartedly agree with you and I would encourage some stations
> to put more energy into activities that will differentiate themselves from
> the others.
>
> When I hear an LPFM station with cheesy american stings, sounding just like
> a commercial station, it makes me cringe. LPFM is and should stay
> "underground" and unique.
>
> While I am aware many mainstream stations pre-record their shows, and
> acknowlege that this saves some poor dj having to do a graveyard shift, I
> feel that some stations on the LPFM are sadly lacking ANY kind of
> pre-recorded jock.
>
> Another issue I have, while Im having a rant, is the re-transmission of
> Auckland stations in Wellington, specifically George Fm. This OBVIOUSLY
> commercial station, uses precious guardband, pumping out Auckland based ads
> and news. Surely this is against the rules (the non-commercial rule) and
> MSD, if your out there, I would encourage you to look at adding in a "local
> only" clause into the GURL regs.
>
> Fleet, while I cant pick you up from where I am, I applaud your efforts to
> make your station more locally relavent for us Wellingtonians - More please
> - a couple of shows aint enough
>
> and Groove - your sounding awesome  dispite being automated most of the
> time, your production is first class and you obviously put some real thought
> into your playlisting which is refreshing.
>
>
> Claire Medcalf
> Munt Fm 88.5 WTGN
> www.muntfm.co.nz

On Thu, 5 Aug 2004, claire medcalf wrote:

> Another issue I have, while Im having a rant, is the re-transmission of
> Auckland stations in Wellington, specifically George Fm. This OBVIOUSLY
> commercial station, uses precious guardband, pumping out Auckland based ads
> and news. Surely this is against the rules (the non-commercial rule) and
> MSD, if your out there, I would encourage you to look at adding in a "local
> only" clause into the GURL regs.

George is certainly a commercial station (they are full-power or near here
in Auckland, using one of the Maori frequencies).

However there is no rule in the GURL which says that a LPFM station has to
be non-commercial.

UpFM has operated in Auckland for quite some time now as a commercial
station, as does the new BaseFM now. (I beleive)

Some of us try and get sponsors and things to help cover expenses which
might well make us 'commercial' too I guess.

Several people have called for the GURL to specify non-commercial which is
all well and good, as long as there is somewhere for the semi-commercial,
the small commercial, (or even just the stations who want to be able to
provide more than a pc and winamp) stations to go without having to shell
out $6.5million for a frequency.

I would love to remain 100% commercial free on Twisted, but as you
mentioned in a previous email, one of our goals is providing new and
upcoming dj's and jocks with a place to get on air where they otherwise
wouldn't be able to... and unfortunately that takes money.

---
Matt Camp
Station Manager
Twisted Radio 107.7FM

Can I ask what frequency you plan on using?

You should definitely become involved with the new LPFM society we have
now formed as it is certainly the best way to find a frequency without
unnecessary headaches.

On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Dave Smith wrote:

>
> We have secured a site in the Auckland CBD on a highrise..All we need to
> do now is to action our plans
>
> Dave
>
> >From: Michael and Ross <alnairgrus@...>
> >Reply-To: LPFM_Radio@...
> >To: LPFM_Radio@...
> >Subject: RE: [LPFM] Devils Advocate
> >Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 12:35:02 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Why can't we hear your in Auckland????
> >
> >Dave Smith <radiopegasus@...> wrote:
> >Further to my earlier post.
> >
> >Our announcers are based in Christchurch - London - Auckland and
> Timaru..
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Interesting discussion!

Dubber - I wholeheartedly agree with you and I would encourage some stations
to put more energy into activities that will differentiate themselves from
the others.

When I hear an LPFM station with cheesy american stings, sounding just like
a commercial station, it makes me cringe. LPFM is and should stay
"underground" and unique.

While I am aware many mainstream stations pre-record their shows, and
acknowlege that this saves some poor dj having to do a graveyard shift, I
feel that some stations on the LPFM are sadly lacking ANY kind of
pre-recorded jock.

Another issue I have, while Im having a rant, is the re-transmission of
Auckland stations in Wellington, specifically George Fm. This OBVIOUSLY
commercial station, uses precious guardband, pumping out Auckland based ads
and news. Surely this is against the rules (the non-commercial rule) and
MSD, if your out there, I would encourage you to look at adding in a "local
only" clause into the GURL regs.

Fleet, while I cant pick you up from where I am, I applaud your efforts to
make your station more locally relavent for us Wellingtonians - More please
- a couple of shows aint enough

and Groove - your sounding awesome  dispite being automated most of the
time, your production is first class and you obviously put some real thought
into your playlisting which is refreshing.





Claire Medcalf
Munt Fm 88.5 WTGN
www.muntfm.co.nz

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----- Original Message -----

From: Dave Smith

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 12:25 AM

Subject: RE: [LPFM] Devils Advocate

We have secured a site in the Auckland CBD on a highrise..All we need to do now is to action our plans

Dave

At the risk of being controversial, I have to say I have some sympathy
for a part of (fantastic) Claire's position in that there is a lot of
duplication in the LPFM band, especially here in Auckland.

While there are genres and subgenres of music (mostly either dance or
nostalgia) there is very little in the way of actual format
differentiation. A genre is not a format and vice-versa.

In that respect, I would say that Apna, Chomsky and The Flea are more
different from each other than, say, Julia, Base, Up, Twisted, Fleet
and Static are.

It has little to do with what you're allowed to do, or how
under-represented you believe your subgenre of popular music to be -
or even the value of those stations. Just that there is surprisingly
little difference in actual format.

Rather than just a stepping stone into a career as a liner card jock,
or the opportunity to play your favourite artists on the wireless,
there are other possibilities for LPFM radio that are not examined
anywhere in this deregulated market. It's not just about DJs and
different slices of popular mainstream music (from whatever decade or
of whatever bpm).

There are no kids stations. There are no local political talk stations
(Chomsky is an alternative viewpoint, but is neither live, local nor
interactive). There are no stations that feature live performances by
local artists, nor are there LPFM community access stations that
empower and train people to make their own documentaries or reports.

That's not to find fault with any of the stations. Several of my
favourite radio stations are music-based Auckland CBD LPFM music
stations. It is pretty much entirely a money thing.

Radio that could make a genuine difference to people's lives by using
the full potential of low power broadcasting is expensive to produce
and is incredibly time consuming. But, if anyone wanted to examine it,
I thoroughly recommend www.transom.org as a starting point to get a
glimpse of what might be possible.

Imagine: Local public radio by, as well as for, the local public. A
conversation. The Flea goes some way towards that by including local
voices and music from the community, but there is also so much room
for so much more.

There's nothing really ultimately wrong with having multiple jukeboxes
(with or without announcers) with 500mW transmitters attached to them.
Let's just not fool ourselves that this is all that LPFM radio can be.

Cheers,

Dubber
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Hi all, I am working with someone who is interested in setting up an
LPFM. It's been four years now since I had to shop around for a TX. What
are people recommending these days in terms of stability, quality and
value for money? I have seen references here to the NRG and Veronica
units, are there people on the list who can rate one over the other?
Also are there other brands worth considering?

Thanks in advance for any info. He's not on the Net believe it or not
but I will pass the info on.

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Hmm. What an interesting thread that was.  Here's my two sense.  I
happen to have two syndicated programs.  My shows are not live, as
there is not an inexpensive way to do live worldwide radio other
than internet broadcasting.  It is not fiscally responsible to do
such a program.  However, I am also a 'live' personality with
a 'real radio job' as well.

The LPFM situation in NZ is second to none in the world.  I am not
sure in NZ, but speaking from a US point of view, our big stations
are 'automated' often times without anyone knowing.  Even MY station
is live only for morning drive, and my show- evening drive.  The
rest is all automated and voice over, and we even have different
jocks.  In fact, I haven't ever met the guy who does late nights and
weekends.  He doesn't live within 1,000 KM of me!

I don't think it takes away from the broadcast to do a good program
be it live or 'live' to disk.  Good broadcasts are good, and then
there are...the rest.

Have a GREAT August Mates!

Cheers,

Marc

Hmm. What an interesting thread that was.  Here's my two sense.  I
happen to have two syndicated programs.  My shows are not live, as
there is not an inexpensive way to do live worldwide radio other
than internet broadcasting.  It is not fiscally responsible to do
such a program.  However, I am also a 'live' personality with
a 'real radio job' as well.

The LPFM situation in NZ is second to none in the world.  I am not
sure, but speaking from a US point of view, our big stations
are 'automated' often times without anyone knowing.  Even MY station
is live only for morning drive, and my show- evening drive.  The
rest is all automated and voice over, and we even have different
jocks.  In fact, I haven't ever met the guy who does late nights and
weekends.  He doesn't live within 1,000 KM of me!

I don't think it takes away from the broadcast to do a good program
be it live or 'live' to disk.  Good broadcasts are good, and then
there are...the rest.

Have a GREAT August Mates!

Cheers,

Marc

--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Peter Shaw" <akwccr@y...> wrote:
>
> The "TLC Radio" network offers New Zealand C&W artists an airing in
> Stratford, Otahuhu and Te Atatu South that they would not otherwise
> get. And even if the station *is* automated, continuity announcements
> ensure that the audience (be it one, two, or dozens of people, who
> knows) are told who they are listening to. The other C&W stables do a
> mighty fine job as well, I might add. Some of us do it for the love of
> it and hold down real jobs, others have higher aspirations and a
> budget to match, but there seems to be room for all of us.
>

I wish to state that my choice of words "hold down real jobs" was
unfortunate. I should have said "other jobs" or "work in another job
to earn a living". The implication that DJ work and running a Radio
Station is not a real job is *not* what I intended.

-P.

--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "claire medcalf"
<fantasticclaire@h...> wrote:
> I have lurked this list for over a year now, and it seems that many
of the
> LPFM stations in existance simply setup a computer and a transmitter
and
> make a few stings and run with very few real DJ's.

Thanks Matt for your defence of those who set up a station, pay for it
themselves, try to play by the rules and offer a genre that has been
ignored by the mainstream media for years.

The "TLC Radio" network offers New Zealand C&W artists an airing in
Stratford, Otahuhu and Te Atatu South that they would not otherwise
get. And even if the station *is* automated, continuity announcements
ensure that the audience (be it one, two, or dozens of people, who
knows) are told who they are listening to. The other C&W stables do a
mighty fine job as well, I might add. Some of us do it for the love of
it and hold down real jobs, others have higher aspirations and a
budget to match, but there seems to be room for all of us.

Now, tell me that we have no right to be there as well as the "Live
DJ" stations.

-P.

A large amount of what you hear on comercial stations is prerecorded
and stuffed onto their expensive automation software anyway, alot of
it ain't live. DJ comes in records their voice breaks, loads up
their show based on a predefined playlist and then is off to do
other station promo stuff. Two hour show done in half an hour, keeps
the penny counters happy.
I remember once passing a DJ in one of there mobile units doing a
voice break in the empty Radio Networks carpark "Come on do
to 'insert name here', there's a large crowd and heaps happening..."

Most of us LPFMers have day jobs and someones gotta hold the fort
while noones in the studio and the easiest way is using a computer
loaded with mp3s.




--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "claire medcalf"
<fantasticclaire@h...> wrote:
> I have lurked this list for over a year now, and it seems that
many of the
> LPFM stations in existance simply setup a computer and a
transmitter and
> make a few stings and run with very few real DJ's.
>
> Can you justify to my why you should be taking up airspace that
other
> stations, with real life DJ's could be using.
>
> LPFM prvides a great stepping stone for new DJ's to get a taste of
radio.
>
> Claire Medcalf
> President
> M@WSA
> Po Box 756
> Wellington
> 0274 779626
> 8012540
> www.muntfm.co.nz
> www.mawsa.org.nz
>
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Personally, because these formats are so niche - an announcer with
*some* form of in-depth knowledge of the music would be great. We
could actualy learn something about the genre, it's history, it's
future. Not to mention this would add value to your 'brand' and
therefore help with credibility (and sales if you're that way
inclined). Even the big stations may listen to yours and like it.

Theres so much potential in LPFM, although sometimes a jukebox is all
you really require.

Clare, you are fantastic.

R.

--- In LPFM_Radio@..., Matt Camp <matt@t...> wrote:
>
> One of the great things about radio, and the guardband in particular, is
> that you don't HAVE to stick to any particular format, especially
the old
> classic 'live djs doing shows'.
>
> Sure, it might be the most well-proven way to make money, but anyone who
> is running an LPFM station with the goal of making money needs their
head
> examined.
>
> So really, they don't have to justify it. The Licence doesn't say the
> spectrum needs to be used for traditional shows, and thats a great
thing,
> as it lets people get their own message on the airwaves without
having to
> spend $6,000,000.
>
> Other people could easily ask the Dj-Show format LPFM stations to
justify
> their use of the spectrum to do the same thing that hundreds of
commercial
> stations already do...
>
> And anyway, in Auckland at least, there are enough LPFM stations now
> covering just about any genre that getting a show isn't really a
problem.
>
> If there IS someone out there who doesn't have a slot and really wants a
> show to get into radio, by all means email me... we have free dj
slots and
> will let people play pretty much whatever they want really.
>
> On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, claire medcalf wrote:
>
> > I have lurked this list for over a year now, and it seems that
many of the
> > LPFM stations in existance simply setup a computer and a
transmitter and
> > make a few stings and run with very few real DJ's.
> >
> > Can you justify to my why you should be taking up airspace that other
> > stations, with real life DJ's could be using.
> >
> > LPFM prvides a great stepping stone for new DJ's to get a taste of
radio.
> >
> > Claire Medcalf
> > President
> > M@WSA
> > Po Box 756
> > Wellington
> > 0274 779626
> > 8012540
> > www.muntfm.co.nz
> > www.mawsa.org.nz
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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> > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
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> Station Manager
> Twisted Radio 107.7FM

----- Original Message -----

From: claire medcalf

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 9:09 AM

Subject: [LPFM] Devils Advocate

I have lurked this list for over a year now, and it seems that many of the
LPFM stations in existance simply setup a computer and a transmitter and
make a few stings and run with very few real DJ's.

Can you justify to my why you should be taking up airspace that other
stations, with real life DJ's could be using.

LPFM prvides a great stepping stone for new DJ's to get a taste of radio.

Claire Medcalf
President
M@WSA
Po Box 756
Wellington
0274 779626
8012540
www.muntfm.co.nz
www.mawsa.org.nz

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One of the great things about radio, and the guardband in particular, is
that you don't HAVE to stick to any particular format, especially the old
classic 'live djs doing shows'.

Sure, it might be the most well-proven way to make money, but anyone who
is running an LPFM station with the goal of making money needs their head
examined.

So really, they don't have to justify it. The Licence doesn't say the
spectrum needs to be used for traditional shows, and thats a great thing,
as it lets people get their own message on the airwaves without having to
spend $6,000,000.

Other people could easily ask the Dj-Show format LPFM stations to justify
their use of the spectrum to do the same thing that hundreds of commercial
stations already do...

And anyway, in Auckland at least, there are enough LPFM stations now
covering just about any genre that getting a show isn't really a problem.

If there IS someone out there who doesn't have a slot and really wants a
show to get into radio, by all means email me... we have free dj slots and
will let people play pretty much whatever they want really.

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, claire medcalf wrote:

> I have lurked this list for over a year now, and it seems that many of the
> LPFM stations in existance simply setup a computer and a transmitter and
> make a few stings and run with very few real DJ's.
>
> Can you justify to my why you should be taking up airspace that other
> stations, with real life DJ's could be using.
>
> LPFM prvides a great stepping stone for new DJ's to get a taste of radio.
>
> Claire Medcalf
> President
> M@WSA
> Po Box 756
> Wellington
> 0274 779626
> 8012540
> www.muntfm.co.nz
> www.mawsa.org.nz
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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> http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>

---
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Twisted Radio 107.7FM

I have lurked this list for over a year now, and it seems that many of the
LPFM stations in existance simply setup a computer and a transmitter and
make a few stings and run with very few real DJ's.

Can you justify to my why you should be taking up airspace that other
stations, with real life DJ's could be using.

LPFM prvides a great stepping stone for new DJ's to get a taste of radio.

Claire Medcalf
President
M@WSA
Po Box 756
Wellington
0274 779626
8012540
www.muntfm.co.nz
www.mawsa.org.nz

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Tip: give yourself 0.2MHz distance from any other LPFM operator as an
absolute minimum, ideally you want 0.4MHz, but that is often not
attainable due to the amount of stations occupying the band.

Try and keep your antenna at least 1km away from any other LPFM
transmit antenna to minimise intermod

And frequency stability is a given :-)

Jochen

>>> matrix1075fm@... 3/08/04 >>>
Hello,

I just want to give you a brief history of Matrix
107.5FM
We have been testing since February and in May found a
good spot for the TX.
I am the person responsible for the hardware and some
of the programming. Since I had to leave town for a
while, I left the station in the hands of people that
only had to make sure that the TX is on air and
broadcasting. Station ID was to be done in my absence.
I don't know what went on while I was away, but it
doesn't matter now.
Groove FM is obviously transmitting from a very good
location up The Terrace I guess.
Fleet FM is close to Matrix FM on the other side of
town.
It may be too close for comfort. We'll see.
When we first tested, 107.4 didn't work well.
Trust me, there was a lot of testing...
There was for example a strong carrier nearby that
obliterated our signal, but one day disappeared.
Of course I didn't know about this group.
As it is now, we just have to live together, using
frequency stable transmitters and enjoy the freedom of
LPFM.
Im am currently in the process of optimizing the
signal.
Just testing Winamp with the Audiostocker plugin.

All The Best

Peter





--- Jamie Connor <jamie@...> wrote:

> Jamie from Fleet FM here.
>
> > To be honest, I think that wholesale
> re-broadcasting of a LPFM station at
> > the other end of the country goes against the
> spirit of LPFM. In my
> opinion
> > it should be local as much as poss. There is so
> little local radio around
> > these days. What is the point, really? If other
> operators run a similar
> > format and you are not selling advertising
> there...
>
> I totally agree with what you say. I think that
> getting heaps of coverage by
> rebroadcasting beyond the boundaries of a lpfm
> station's community can start
> to get  a bit greedy. What we are trying to do with
> our Wellington
> connection is get content from both communities. We
> are not just
> broadcasting Auckland's material, we are also
> getting shows from Wellington
> and broadcasting them in Auckland. Admittedly this
> is only on Saturday night
> at the moment, but once our connection is more
> stable we plan on making it a
> more regular feature. I really want to avoid the
> feeling of an Auckland
> station just rebroadcasting in Wellington.
>
> I did a lot of checking to make sure that we
> wouldn't step on anyones toes.
> I tried my hardest to find out who was running
> intermittantly on 107.5 FM
> but there was no contact details given or a call
> sign or anything on air.
>
> Cheers,
> Jamie
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Groove 107.7FM" <dean.c@...>
> To: <LPFM_Radio@...>
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 6:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [LPFM] Matrix 107.5 FM
>
>
> > Hello Matrix
> >
> > Nice to put a name to the frequency (although is
> there a name for the
> person
> > behind it???).
> > I think that the spoken programs you broadcast are
> definately worthy of
> > airplay but...
> > I wish you had checked with us before firing up as
> I would have
> reccomended
> > using 107.4FM which would have been clean as a
> bell.
> > Unfortunately... (1) You will be getting a bit of
> interference from us on
> > 107.7FM (although that hasn't changed for 10
> months or so and you are
> > interfering with our signal the same way)
> > and (2) You will be getting interference from
> Fleet FM's new Wgtn Tx on
> > 107.3FM. He asked me about the Wgtn situation a
> couple of months ago. I'm
> > now thinking that I should have discouraged them
> from using that freq. At
> > the time I think that you guys had gone off air
> for a couple of weeks.
> >
> > To be honest, I think that wholesale
> re-broadcasting of a LPFM station at
> > the other end of the country goes against the
> spirit of LPFM. In my
> opinion
> > it should be local as much as poss. There is so
> little local radio around
> > these days. What is the point, really? If other
> operators run a similar
> > format and you are not selling advertising
> there...
> > Just my thoughts.
> > If either of you want to chat about the situation,
> my number is: 021-457
> > 368, our studio no. is 04-381 GROOVE (381 4766).
> >
> > Cheers
> > Dean Conland
> > Groove 107.7FM
> > Wgtn
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: matrix1075fm <matrix1075fm@...>
> > To: <LPFM_Radio@...>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 9:53 PM
> > Subject: [LPFM] Matrix 107.5 FM
> >
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > after some testing we are finally on air
> permanently.
> > > We are currently running a 130 hr playlist on
> repeat with a station ID
> > > thrown in at various intervals.
> > > The format is similar to Radio Chomsky, but
> there is music too.
> > > We provide space for local musicians and DJs
> between 8 and 10 pm every
> day
> > and can expand the slot if required.
> > > It is early days yet, but the Matrix could be
> filling a gap.
> > > We hope that the station will grow into a
> veritable information and
> local
> > culture platform.
> > > We are using a very stable low power Veronica
> transmitter that until
> > recently covered most of Wellington City.
> > > Right now we are encountering some problems.
> > > It seems that some transmitter close to us jams
> our signal.
> > > We are in Wellington near the Basin Reserve.
> > > Tune in and check us out.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
---------------------------------------------------------
> > > LPFM Website:
> http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LPFM_Radio
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
---------------------------------------------------------
> > LPFM Website:
> http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LPFM_Radio
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
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>
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<<<< GWAVASIG >>>>

Hello,

I just want to give you a brief history of Matrix
107.5FM
We have been testing since February and in May found a
good spot for the TX.
I am the person responsible for the hardware and some
of the programming. Since I had to leave town for a
while, I left the station in the hands of people that
only had to make sure that the TX is on air and
broadcasting. Station ID was to be done in my absence.
I don't know what went on while I was away, but it
doesn't matter now.
Groove FM is obviously transmitting from a very good
location up The Terrace I guess.
Fleet FM is close to Matrix FM on the other side of
town.
It may be too close for comfort. We'll see.
When we first tested, 107.4 didn't work well.
Trust me, there was a lot of testing...
There was for example a strong carrier nearby that
obliterated our signal, but one day disappeared.
Of course I didn't know about this group.
As it is now, we just have to live together, using
frequency stable transmitters and enjoy the freedom of
LPFM.
Im am currently in the process of optimizing the
signal.
Just testing Winamp with the Audiostocker plugin.

All The Best

Peter





--- Jamie Connor <jamie@...> wrote:

> Jamie from Fleet FM here.
>
> > To be honest, I think that wholesale
> re-broadcasting of a LPFM station at
> > the other end of the country goes against the
> spirit of LPFM. In my
> opinion
> > it should be local as much as poss. There is so
> little local radio around
> > these days. What is the point, really? If other
> operators run a similar
> > format and you are not selling advertising
> there...
>
> I totally agree with what you say. I think that
> getting heaps of coverage by
> rebroadcasting beyond the boundaries of a lpfm
> station's community can start
> to get  a bit greedy. What we are trying to do with
> our Wellington
> connection is get content from both communities. We
> are not just
> broadcasting Auckland's material, we are also
> getting shows from Wellington
> and broadcasting them in Auckland. Admittedly this
> is only on Saturday night
> at the moment, but once our connection is more
> stable we plan on making it a
> more regular feature. I really want to avoid the
> feeling of an Auckland
> station just rebroadcasting in Wellington.
>
> I did a lot of checking to make sure that we
> wouldn't step on anyones toes.
> I tried my hardest to find out who was running
> intermittantly on 107.5 FM
> but there was no contact details given or a call
> sign or anything on air.
>
> Cheers,
> Jamie
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Groove 107.7FM" <dean.c@...>
> To: <LPFM_Radio@...>
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 6:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [LPFM] Matrix 107.5 FM
>
>
> > Hello Matrix
> >
> > Nice to put a name to the frequency (although is
> there a name for the
> person
> > behind it???).
> > I think that the spoken programs you broadcast are
> definately worthy of
> > airplay but...
> > I wish you had checked with us before firing up as
> I would have
> reccomended
> > using 107.4FM which would have been clean as a
> bell.
> > Unfortunately... (1) You will be getting a bit of
> interference from us on
> > 107.7FM (although that hasn't changed for 10
> months or so and you are
> > interfering with our signal the same way)
> > and (2) You will be getting interference from
> Fleet FM's new Wgtn Tx on
> > 107.3FM. He asked me about the Wgtn situation a
> couple of months ago. I'm
> > now thinking that I should have discouraged them
> from using that freq. At
> > the time I think that you guys had gone off air
> for a couple of weeks.
> >
> > To be honest, I think that wholesale
> re-broadcasting of a LPFM station at
> > the other end of the country goes against the
> spirit of LPFM. In my
> opinion
> > it should be local as much as poss. There is so
> little local radio around
> > these days. What is the point, really? If other
> operators run a similar
> > format and you are not selling advertising
> there...
> > Just my thoughts.
> > If either of you want to chat about the situation,
> my number is: 021-457
> > 368, our studio no. is 04-381 GROOVE (381 4766).
> >
> > Cheers
> > Dean Conland
> > Groove 107.7FM
> > Wgtn
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: matrix1075fm <matrix1075fm@...>
> > To: <LPFM_Radio@...>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 9:53 PM
> > Subject: [LPFM] Matrix 107.5 FM
> >
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > after some testing we are finally on air
> permanently.
> > > We are currently running a 130 hr playlist on
> repeat with a station ID
> > > thrown in at various intervals.
> > > The format is similar to Radio Chomsky, but
> there is music too.
> > > We provide space for local musicians and DJs
> between 8 and 10 pm every
> day
> > and can expand the slot if required.
> > > It is early days yet, but the Matrix could be
> filling a gap.
> > > We hope that the station will grow into a
> veritable information and
> local
> > culture platform.
> > > We are using a very stable low power Veronica
> transmitter that until
> > recently covered most of Wellington City.
> > > Right now we are encountering some problems.
> > > It seems that some transmitter close to us jams
> our signal.
> > > We are in Wellington near the Basin Reserve.
> > > Tune in and check us out.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
---------------------------------------------------------
> > > LPFM Website:
> http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LPFM_Radio
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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> http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LPFM_Radio
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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The Society of Low Power FM Broadcasters Inc -
Formation and Inaugural AGM
===============================================

All parties in the Auckland region with an interest in joining The
Society of Low Power FM Broadcasters Incorporated are invited to a
meeting to be held at:

Blue Star Lodge & Conference Centre
100 Great South Road
Newmarket

at 18:00 on Wednesday 4th August 2004

It is easy to find. If you proceed down Great South Road from
Newmarket, look for it on your left. If you reach Market Road you
have gone too far. There is quite a lot of parking available there.
The Conference Centre is at the back of the courtyard on the right.
=============================

The meeting is intended to formalise the Society. The draft rules
will be considered, and adopted by vote.

The following Society offices will be filled by nomination and vote:

Chairperson
Secretary
Treasurer
Executive Committee (4 or more positions anticipated)

Fees will be asked for ($75.00 per annum for full membership). Full
Membership limited to one (vote) per station and is limited to an
actual broadcaster, but associate (non-voting) membership is
available for anyone else ($25.00 Annual fee).

Following formal adoption of the rules and election of people to the
various offices, it is intended to conduct the Inaugural Annual
General Meeting under the newly elected Chairperson.

End of message.
Peter Shaw
Interim Secretary

Jamie from Fleet FM here.

> To be honest, I think that wholesale re-broadcasting of a LPFM station at
> the other end of the country goes against the spirit of LPFM. In my
opinion
> it should be local as much as poss. There is so little local radio around
> these days. What is the point, really? If other operators run a similar
> format and you are not selling advertising there...

I totally agree with what you say. I think that getting heaps of coverage by
rebroadcasting beyond the boundaries of a lpfm station's community can start
to get  a bit greedy. What we are trying to do with our Wellington
connection is get content from both communities. We are not just
broadcasting Auckland's material, we are also getting shows from Wellington
and broadcasting them in Auckland. Admittedly this is only on Saturday night
at the moment, but once our connection is more stable we plan on making it a
more regular feature. I really want to avoid the feeling of an Auckland
station just rebroadcasting in Wellington.

I did a lot of checking to make sure that we wouldn't step on anyones toes.
I tried my hardest to find out who was running intermittantly on 107.5 FM
but there was no contact details given or a call sign or anything on air.

Cheers,
Jamie


----- Original Message -----
From: "Groove 107.7FM" <dean.c@...>
To: <LPFM_Radio@...>
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [LPFM] Matrix 107.5 FM


> Hello Matrix
>
> Nice to put a name to the frequency (although is there a name for the
person
> behind it???).
> I think that the spoken programs you broadcast are definately worthy of
> airplay but...
> I wish you had checked with us before firing up as I would have
reccomended
> using 107.4FM which would have been clean as a bell.
> Unfortunately... (1) You will be getting a bit of interference from us on
> 107.7FM (although that hasn't changed for 10 months or so and you are
> interfering with our signal the same way)
> and (2) You will be getting interference from Fleet FM's new Wgtn Tx on
> 107.3FM. He asked me about the Wgtn situation a couple of months ago. I'm
> now thinking that I should have discouraged them from using that freq. At
> the time I think that you guys had gone off air for a couple of weeks.
>
> To be honest, I think that wholesale re-broadcasting of a LPFM station at
> the other end of the country goes against the spirit of LPFM. In my
opinion
> it should be local as much as poss. There is so little local radio around
> these days. What is the point, really? If other operators run a similar
> format and you are not selling advertising there...
> Just my thoughts.
> If either of you want to chat about the situation, my number is: 021-457
> 368, our studio no. is 04-381 GROOVE (381 4766).
>
> Cheers
> Dean Conland
> Groove 107.7FM
> Wgtn
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: matrix1075fm <matrix1075fm@...>
> To: <LPFM_Radio@...>
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 9:53 PM
> Subject: [LPFM] Matrix 107.5 FM
>
>
> > Hello,
> > after some testing we are finally on air permanently.
> > We are currently running a 130 hr playlist on repeat with a station ID
> > thrown in at various intervals.
> > The format is similar to Radio Chomsky, but there is music too.
> > We provide space for local musicians and DJs between 8 and 10 pm every
day
> and can expand the slot if required.
> > It is early days yet, but the Matrix could be filling a gap.
> > We hope that the station will grow into a veritable information and
local
> culture platform.
> > We are using a very stable low power Veronica transmitter that until
> recently covered most of Wellington City.
> > Right now we are encountering some problems.
> > It seems that some transmitter close to us jams our signal.
> > We are in Wellington near the Basin Reserve.
> > Tune in and check us out.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > LPFM Website: http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LPFM_Radio
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> LPFM Website: http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LPFM_Radio
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Hello Matrix

Nice to put a name to the frequency (although is there a name for the person
behind it???).
I think that the spoken programs you broadcast are definately worthy of
airplay but...
I wish you had checked with us before firing up as I would have reccomended
using 107.4FM which would have been clean as a bell.
Unfortunately... (1) You will be getting a bit of interference from us on
107.7FM (although that hasn't changed for 10 months or so and you are
interfering with our signal the same way)
and (2) You will be getting interference from Fleet FM's new Wgtn Tx on
107.3FM. He asked me about the Wgtn situation a couple of months ago. I'm
now thinking that I should have discouraged them from using that freq. At
the time I think that you guys had gone off air for a couple of weeks.

To be honest, I think that wholesale re-broadcasting of a LPFM station at
the other end of the country goes against the spirit of LPFM. In my opinion
it should be local as much as poss. There is so little local radio around
these days. What is the point, really? If other operators run a similar
format and you are not selling advertising there...
Just my thoughts.
If either of you want to chat about the situation, my number is: 021-457
368, our studio no. is 04-381 GROOVE (381 4766).

Cheers
Dean Conland
Groove 107.7FM
Wgtn

----- Original Message -----
From: matrix1075fm <matrix1075fm@...>
To: <LPFM_Radio@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 9:53 PM
Subject: [LPFM] Matrix 107.5 FM


> Hello,
> after some testing we are finally on air permanently.
> We are currently running a 130 hr playlist on repeat with a station ID
> thrown in at various intervals.
> The format is similar to Radio Chomsky, but there is music too.
> We provide space for local musicians and DJs between 8 and 10 pm every day
and can expand the slot if required.
> It is early days yet, but the Matrix could be filling a gap.
> We hope that the station will grow into a veritable information and local
culture platform.
> We are using a very stable low power Veronica transmitter that until
recently covered most of Wellington City.
> Right now we are encountering some problems.
> It seems that some transmitter close to us jams our signal.
> We are in Wellington near the Basin Reserve.
> Tune in and check us out.
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> LPFM Website: http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LPFM_Radio
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

Just catching up on all the e-mails.
The situation below is certainly what we found in Taupo on 94.3FM The Fish
which was a full power but fairly alternative station.
We had a 15-35 yr target demograph but used to play a 'feature track' once
per hour (jazz/blues/comedy/celtic/funk/classical even). I was a bit worried
that this would put the kids off but surprise, surprise; they were impressed
that we had the guts to play something different and the local record stores
were blown away by the change in peoples CD buying habits. They went as far
as to say that they would have gone under if it wasn't for us broadening
peoples tastes.
Pity WE went under!

Dean
Groove 107.7FM

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Shaw <akwccr@...>
To: <LPFM_Radio@...>
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 7:57 PM
Subject: [LPFM] Re: Saying Hi - Regulators


> --- In LPFM_Radio@..., Andrew Dubber <dubber@g...>
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > One of the more sensible voices on the LPFM front in the US is a
> guy
> > called Pete Tridish (he says 'Petri Dish') from the Prometheus
> Radio
> > Project. I met up with him when I was in the States last year, and
>
> ---SNIP---
>
> >
> > Interview with Petri:
> > http://www.cjr.org/issues/2003/5/qa-kelliher.asp
> >
>
> I loved this answer given by Petri in the interview at
> http://www.cjr.org/issues/2003/5/qa-kelliher.asp
>
> "What can a low-power FM station accomplish in a community that
> commercial radio isn't accomplishing?
>
> Community radio believes that part of its mission is to broaden and
> deepen the listening experience of its audience. If you ask
> teenagers on the street what kind of music they want they will
> probably say Britney Spears. But they want to hear Britney Spears
> because that's what they've heard. That doesn't mean they wouldn't
> appreciate music from Kenya. It's really a question of what people
> are exposed to and what their options are. It really is very
> important for there to be place on the dial that in some ways is
> less successful, that presents programs that are not going to be as
> popular - but is a place where you can go when your ear grows past
> the bubble-pop of our culture. I think those are sort of the green
> spaces - the common public spaces - that we need to be thinking
> about as a culture. They have an effect that goes beyond the
> audience numbers."
>
> Pretty much sums it up for me.
> -P.
>
>
>
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