Hi all

I have a NRG 1 watt PLL PRO 3 FM EXCITER for sale. I imported it
into NZ as a 300mW Tx kitset and built it up. To convert it back to
500mW as the regs say it requires 2 resistors to be replace.
Also for sale is a NRG PRO III STEREO LIMITER COMPRESSOR... and
a NRG PRO III STEREO CODER. All are mounted in Aluminium cases.
Anyone interested or know of anyone interested please let me know
Regards
alan

Hi Ethan
People laugh at me when I tell them this but I use an old VHS Video Recorder
for my limiting and compression on my Audio Stream/Transmission.
The model I use is an old Sharp VC386 Stereo video, its heads are worn out so
it won't play tapes anymore .....It has a 5 pin din plug for the Audio... I
switch the audio to Auxilairy in ... I feed the audio in on one side of the
din plug, from my mixer... and take it out of the other side, and feed that
into my streaming computer as well as the transmitter. My Transmitter has a
VU meter and it never peaks too high or low... its great.
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:40, Ethan.L. wrote:
> Hi Everyone
>
> I am starting a Hit Music FM station and im using SAM3 Broadcaster... Does
> anyone have any good tips / compressor / limiter settings for a good sound?
>
>
> Regards,
> Ethan
>
> www.lfmonline.org
>

Cheers Geoff Barkman 	 ZL4TUX
--

Its not realeased yet, will be tommorow...  (I was part of the BETA team)

Ethan

On 10 Nov 2004 at 15:17, Ross Levis wrote:

>
> I can't answer your question, but I didn't realize SAM3 was out. Is there a
list of the changes
> from SAM2 anywhere do you know?
>     ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ethan.L.
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> Subject: [LPFM] Compressor....
>
> Hi Everyone
>
> I am starting a Hit Music FM station and im using SAM3 Broadcaster... Does
> anyone have any good tips / compressor / limiter settings for a good sound?
>
>
> Regards,
> Ethan
>
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----- Original Message -----

From: Ethan.L.

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:40 AM

Subject: [LPFM] Compressor....

Hi Everyone

I am starting a Hit Music FM station and im using SAM3 Broadcaster... Does anyone have any good tips / compressor / limiter settings for a good sound?


Regards,
Ethan

www.lfmonline.org

Hi Everyone

I am starting a Hit Music FM station and im using SAM3 Broadcaster... Does
anyone have any good tips / compressor / limiter settings for a good sound?


Regards,
Ethan

www.lfmonline.org

Hi Maurice,
Thats a noble concept you've been doing for the 600 people of Seddon.
You mention that it is beneficial not to "slug it out in a big city
against wannabe commercial operators". I completely understand your
position from a rural perspective and agree, but you say wannabe
commercial operators. That is incorrect.

A lot of these operators are successful (some VERY) in a lot of
different ways on a much larger scale, therefore much more
responsibility is needed which is why the majority of us set up the
LPFM Society eariler this year to manage it.

Auckland central alone has around 400,000 people to break out into a
bucketload of different listening groups. This enables those
commercial LPFM operators to target them, make a profit and earn a
living from it. Not only that, all reports of clashing operators is
handled by the LPFM Society to manage (members or not). Auckland LPFM
is very healthy and roaring because of it. MED are intimately aware of
this.

Just my opinion.
Richard

--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "M.B & J.D Duffy"
<DuffyFamily@x> wrote:
> Seddon is a small rural town of 600 people between Blenheim and
Kaikoura.
> Some times it is most beneficial not to have to slug it out in a big
city
> where LPFM seems to be becoming the preserve of  wannabe commercial
> operators rather than an outlet for the alternative or marginalised
which
> was both the intent and spirit of LPFM when I started.
> Just my opinion
> Maurice 88.1 CPRfm

If you're going to serve only 500 or fewer people why not apply for
a "Low Value License"?  This would give you a frequency you own,
protection from interference and way more than 1/2 watt of power.  If
I remember correctly Low Value Licenses are $500 plus engineering
costs - great value for what you end up with.

John

I like you self have been in the same position for some 5 years now. It
seems hard to believe but we started broadcasting on October 31st 1999 in
Seddon.
Seddon is a small rural town of 600 people between Blenheim and Kaikoura.
Because of where we are (In a valley) I have an almost captive audience as
commercial FM, with the exception of More FM just can't get in here.
Although I built the 4 watt pro 3 kit I only run 1 watt into a folded dipole
and cover all of the town and surrounding area so there is no need for xtra
power. It just is not worth the risk of running more, regardless of where
you live RSM will hunt you down.
I have only ever had 1 visit from RSM, he was a nice chap , very helpfull,
said I had the modulation of concert fm then tweaked my output up with his
gear.
Some times it is most beneficial not to have to slug it out in a big city
where LPFM seems to be becoming the preserve of  wannabe commercial
operators rather than an outlet for the alternative or marginalised which
was both the intent and spirit of LPFM when I started.
Just my opinion
Maurice 88.1 CPRfm
----- Original Message -----
From: "philip_crookes" <philip@...>
To: <LPFM_Radio@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: [LPFM] Looking for some equipment and advice


>
>
> Many thanks to all the group members who took the trouble to reply to
> my original post.
>
> Thanks to your advice, I reckon I'll be starting 1ZZ test
> transmissions before Christmas.
>
> Now the next question: is there any experience of the authorities
> being willing to allow higher power in remote areas?
>
> If I opened an LPFM in Karori or Epsom I would have around 50 000
> listeners available, while if I do the same in Waimate North I'll have
> around 400.
>
> Has anyone ever successfully argued sparse population as a reason to
> allow higher power, like 5 or 10 watts?
>
> It would be easy enough to define the geography: any LPFM inside 50km
> from a population centre of 20 000 or more must stick with the
> half-watt power - while those of us really out in the bush could push
> the barriers a little.
>
> I bet I'm not the first to think like this: what's the collective
> experience so far?
>
> Philip
>
> - Primetime 1ZZ : the soundtrack of your life -
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I would think the MED would not make any exceptions to the regulations
due to your geographic location

the regulations are in force on a national basis

Cheers, Jochen

>>> philip@... 10/11/04 >>>


Many thanks to all the group members who took the trouble to reply to
my original post.

Thanks to your advice, I reckon I'll be starting 1ZZ test
transmissions before Christmas.

Now the next question: is there any experience of the authorities
being willing to allow higher power in remote areas?

If I opened an LPFM in Karori or Epsom I would have around 50 000
listeners available, while if I do the same in Waimate North I'll have
around 400.

Has anyone ever successfully argued sparse population as a reason to
allow higher power, like 5 or 10 watts?

It would be easy enough to define the geography: any LPFM inside 50km
from a population centre of 20 000 or more must stick with the
half-watt power - while those of us really out in the bush could push
the barriers a little.

I bet I'm not the first to think like this: what's the collective
experience so far?

Philip

- Primetime 1ZZ : the soundtrack of your life -






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<<<< GWAVASIG >>>>

Many thanks to all the group members who took the trouble to reply to
my original post.

Thanks to your advice, I reckon I'll be starting 1ZZ test
transmissions before Christmas.

Now the next question: is there any experience of the authorities
being willing to allow higher power in remote areas?

If I opened an LPFM in Karori or Epsom I would have around 50 000
listeners available, while if I do the same in Waimate North I'll have
around 400.

Has anyone ever successfully argued sparse population as a reason to
allow higher power, like 5 or 10 watts?

It would be easy enough to define the geography: any LPFM inside 50km
from a population centre of 20 000 or more must stick with the
half-watt power - while those of us really out in the bush could push
the barriers a little.

I bet I'm not the first to think like this: what's the collective
experience so far?

Philip

- Primetime 1ZZ : the soundtrack of your life -

Dear Pirate,
   I tHink the Govt are Keen to make LPFM Work ! The Latest Licence was July
2003
   Sure there are Problems but we have Alot of Operaters and if we live in
the Same Town you may upset somone but here is the Licence

   Radiocommunications Regulations (General User Radio Licence for Low Power
FM Broadcasting Short Range Devices) Notice 2003 No. 2
   Pursuant to Regulation 9 of the Radiocommunications Regulations 2001 ("the
Regulations") made under section 116 (1) (b) of the Radiocommunications Act
1989 ("the Act"), and acting under delegated authority from the Chief
Executive, I give the following notice.

   Notice
   1. Short title and commencement
     1.. This notice is the Radiocommunications Regulations (General User
Radio Licence for Low Power FM Broadcasting Short Range Devices) Notice 2003
No. 2.
     2.. This notice comes into force on 1 July 2003.
   2. General user radio licence
   A general user radio licence is granted for the transmission on the
frequencies specified in the licence by means of radiocommunication
transmitters intended for local-area broadcasting and known as "Lower Power
FM Broadcasting Short Range Devices", or LPFM Broadcast, in accordance with
the terms, conditions and restrictions of this notice.

   3. Terms, conditions and restrictions
     1.. From 1 October 2003, within a 25km radius of any broadcast
transmitter there must be no more than one low power FM transmitter
broadcasting substantially the same programme (including simulcast or
re-transmission) as that broadcast transmitter.  Broadcast transmitter means
a low power FM transmitter or any broadcast transmitter licensed pursuant to
sections 48 or 116 of the Radiocommunications Act 1989.
     2.. Low Power FM transmitter operators, at least once every three hours,
must broadcast the contract details of the person responsible for the
transmissions.
     3.. Only transmissions that are broadcasting, as defined in the
Broadcasting Act 1989, are permitted.
     4.. Transmitters must conform to the Schedule to this notice and the
requirements prescribed in notices made under Regulation 32 (1) (b) of the
Regulations.
     5.. Frequency use is on a shared basis and the chief executive does not
accept liability under any circumstances for any loss or damage of any kind
occasioned by the unavailability of frequencies or degradation to reception
from other transmissions.
     6.. Should interference occur to services licensed pursuant to a radio
licence or a spectrum licence, including wireless public address systems,
the chief executive reserves the right to require and ensure that any
transmission pursuant to this general user radio licence change frequency,
reduce power or cease operation.





   Schedule
     1.. The permitted transmitter carrier frequencies are:

         Lower FM Band:

         88.1 MHz
        88.2 MHz
        88.3 MHz
        88.4 MHz

         88.5 MHz
        88.6 MHz
        88.7MHz








     2..


         Upper FM Band:

         106.7 MHz
        106.8 MHz
        106.9 MHz
        107.0 MHz

         107.1 MHz
        107.2 MHz
        107.3 MHz
        107.4 MHz

         107.5 MHz
        107.6 MHz
        107.7 MHz








     3.. Transmissions on the frequencies 88.5 MHz, 88.6 MHz and 88.7 MHz are
not permitted within 120 km of Auckland Skytower.
     4.. The permitted designations of emissions are:
     256KF8EHF (stereo)
     180KF3EGN (mono)
     5.. The maximum peak radiated power must not exceed -3 dBW (500mW)
e.i.r.p.
     6.. Notwithstanding the provisions of (4), the field strength must not
exceed 112 dBµV/m based on a measurement bandwidth of  100 kHz and a
reference distance of 10 metres.
     7.. Transmitter carrier stability (frequency tolerance) must be
maintained within +/- 5kHz.
     8.. External controls for the adjustment of the transmitter power are
not permitted.
   Dated at Wellington this Friday 20th day of June 2003.
   SANJAI RAJ, Manager, Business Services, Radio Spectrum Management,
Ministry of Economic Development.



   Explanatory Note
   (This note is not part of the notice, but is intended to indicate its
general effect).

   This notice prescribes that, pursuant to regulation-making powers of the
Radiocommunications Act 1989, a general user radio licence is granted for
the transmission on the frequencies specified in the licence by means of
radiocommunication transmitters intended for local-area broadcasting and
known as "Low Power FM Broadcasting Short Range Devices", or LPFM Broadcast,
in accordance with the terms, conditions and restrictions of this notice.
   This notice comes into force on 1 July 2003.







         1. Application of "25 km" Rule
         Clause 3(1) "From 1 October 2003, within a 25km radius of any
broadcast transmitter there must be no more than one low power FM
transmitter broadcasting substantially the same programme (including
simulcast or re-transmission) as that broadcast transmitter. Broadcast
transmitter means a low power FM transmitter, or any broadcast transmitter
licensed pursuant to sections 48 or 116 of the Radiocommunications Act
1989."

           1.. A broadcast transmitter licensed under section 48 refers to a
spectrum licence for a frequency that is within a frequency band that is
subject to a management right. A transmitter licensed under section 116
refers to a radio licence for a frequency that is within a frequency band
that is not subject to a management right.
           2.. Without limiting the provision, the 25km rule applies as
follows:
             1.. within 25km of any low power FM transmitter, there may be no
more than one other low power FM transmitter; and
             2.. within 25km of a spectrum/radio licence transmitter, there
may be no more than one low power FM transmitter;
         broadcasting substantially the same programme.

         2. Application of "Substantially the Same Programme" Rule
         Clause 3(1) ".substantially the same programme (including simulcast
or re-transmission)."

         This clause uses the term "substantially the same programme" to
allow the clause to apply sensibly to a variety of situations. For example:

           1.. if the same source material is used for a fairly short
periods, or two stations of the same genre have partially over-lapping
play-lists, this is unlikely to amount to being "substantially the same
programme".
           2.. broadcasters are unlikely to circumvent the requirement, for
example, by randomising a play list from separate locations. In borderline
cases what amounts to 'substantial' will be a matter of common sense
judgement.





         3. Application of the "Notification" Rule
         Clause 3(2) "Low Power FM transmitter operators, at least once every
three hours, must broadcast the contact details of the person responsible
for the transmissions."

         This requirement could be met by a spoken announcement of the name
by which the station is identified, or the name of the person responsible
for the establishment and operation of the transmitter, where that name is
the subject of a current telephone directory listing.

         If there is no telephone directory listing, the requirement could be
met by including one of the following in the announcement:

           a.. a business telephone number
           b.. a business address
           c.. a residential telephone number
           d.. a residential address
           e.. a valid e-mail address
           f.. a postal address
         4. Frequency Coordination
         Frequency use is on a shared basis and the Ministry does not accept
liability under any circumstances for any loss or damage of any kind
occasioned by the unavailability of frequencies, or interference to
reception. Nevertheless, the Ministry recognises that coordination between
users can minimise the risk of interference between services.

         The Ministry therefore encourages the establishment of user groups
or associations to coordinate installations for the equitable utilisation by
all users of the available frequencies.

         A discussion group devoted to low power broadcasting in New Zealand
is available (open access, membership required to post) as is a directory of
LPFM broadcasters (details are provided on a voluntary basis). The Ministry
is not responsible for the contents or reliability of the linked websites
and does not necessarily endorse the views expressed within them. Listing
shall not be taken as endorsement of any kind. We cannot guarantee that
these links will work all of the time and we have no control over
availability of the linked pages.





   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "piratefm2001" <piratefm2001@...>
   To: <LPFM_Radio@...>
   Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 7:14 PM
   Subject: [LPFM] are we here to stay?


   >
   >
   > hi group :) , ive heard lots of talk about the gaurd band and such,
   > in relation to the goverment and what have you.
   > do you think the LPFM bands are going to be closed down????? , for
   > what ever reason, namely over use and cross mod between stations,
   > OR , do you think it will get expanded to cope with the demand???, i
   > cant seem to get an answer out of any avenue i have explored, what
   > does the group think????, kindest regards andy
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
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   > Yahoo! Groups Links
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >

hi group :) , ive heard lots of talk about the gaurd band and such,
in relation to the goverment and what have you.
do you think the LPFM bands are going to be closed down????? , for
what ever reason, namely over use and cross mod between stations,
OR , do you think it will get expanded to cope with the demand???, i
cant seem to get an answer out of any avenue i have explored, what
does the group think????, kindest regards andy

"I'm sure our resident BCL guru Jochen will be glad to do a pitch
here."

Are we playing baseball ?

Pitch - you're out!

<grin>

Seriously, I did - see my other posting

J
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<<<< GWAVASIG >>>>

For antennas try Steve Fogerty   Tennatron@...

He makes good products, and he's a kiwi, and it's all locally built.
And guarranteed..

For STLs, it can be whatever your budget is....

From a 2.4GHz spread spectrum link for only a few hundred $$ up to a
professional Marti link for around $15,000

You're better of to state your problem (length of link, whether it's
line of sight, whether you want to make an analogue or digital STL) and
then let the group suggest solutions.

Some people use an FM transmitter in the LPFM space and a domestic
receiver to provide the STL

Cheers, Jochen


>>> philip@... 7/11/04 >>>


Hi all.

On air date for 1ZZ in the Bay of Islands is just 12 weeks away!

I have almost everything I need but am still lacking a mixer panel (do
I need this if I am runing off a computer?) and a transmitting
antenna. Suppliers of these items, anyone?

Where would I get a half-wave dipole for 107.7? Is this something I
should be able to make with a length of No 8 fencing wire?

STL. This is a mystery to me. How does it work / what does it cost /
how far can it reach / does it have to be line of sight?

What sustaining programs do we know about? I'm particularly thinking
of overnights. In UK at The Howl FM I used WRN off the Astra
satellites, but where I am in NZ (Bay of Islands) this would need
something like a 3 metre satellite dish and a low look angle to pick
up Asiasat 2, both of which I could do where I live but not where I
aim to broadcast from. Is anyone using feeds from other international
broadcasters, like VOA, NPR, BBC, DW etc? How are you receiving them,
bearing in mind that we still have third world internet up here.

Is there any NZ news feed we could take without having to pay for it?
I guess we could get our computer vocaloid to read the front page of
the online Herald... which might provoke a nasty letter from Messrs
Sue Grabbitt & Runne

What are people using to play CDs? And where are they buying it?

I'd like to do live OBs (remotes / nemos / location broadcasts -
what's the terminology here?) around town. Anyone else doing this? How
are people feeding the signal back to base?

How do I get internet astreaming access? Seems to me this would be
very costly - unless someone knows different.

That's enough for starters.

Philip

---Primetime Radio 1ZZ - 107.7, on the air on January 28th.---











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<<<< GWAVASIG >>>>

--- In LPFM_Radio@..., Mix FM <mixfm@c...> wrote:
> ANTENNAS:
>

I would strongly recommend you contacted NZ's guru for commercial and
LPFM antennas.

Steve Fogerty   Tennatron@...

You may be very surprised how well priced such a fully tuned antenna
can be,   delivered to your door.

His knowledge along with his made to order product range is impressive.

Wishing you all the best in your venture.


Robert
Moutainside fm.

ANTENNAS:

I strongly recommend Veronica.  It's a UK-based company (see
veronica.co.uk).

I imported a tuned dipole antenna from them (this one:
http://www.veronica.co.uk/tda.htm) and as you can see on that page it
only costs about $110 NZ (delivered from the UK to your door!).

I actually recommend a stacked dipole if you have the room (see
http://www.veronica.co.uk/2tda.htm) which sets you back only $240 NZ.


NEWS FEED:

I looked as well for a free or a cheap one.  Couldn't find anything -
but if you do, let us all know here!

You may be interested to know that IRN offered me their feed at
$400/month.  Guess that's a fair price as it's 6am-midnight, on the
hour, every hour, and I think every 30 mins (or 15 mins) during breakfast.


STREAMING:

Not only is the streaming expensive, but so are the licences.  The
licence (ie: to cover copyright) are separate from and a lot more
expensive than the FM broadcast ones.


Edwin.
Mix FM


PS: You can blame Telecom NZ for our 3rd world Internet :-)



philip_crookes wrote:
>
> Hi all.
>
> On air date for 1ZZ in the Bay of Islands is just 12 weeks away!
>
> I have almost everything I need but am still lacking a mixer panel (do
> I need this if I am runing off a computer?) and a transmitting
> antenna. Suppliers of these items, anyone?
>
> Where would I get a half-wave dipole for 107.7? Is this something I
> should be able to make with a length of No 8 fencing wire?
>
> STL. This is a mystery to me. How does it work / what does it cost /
> how far can it reach / does it have to be line of sight?
>
> What sustaining programs do we know about? I'm particularly thinking
> of overnights. In UK at The Howl FM I used WRN off the Astra
> satellites, but where I am in NZ (Bay of Islands) this would need
> something like a 3 metre satellite dish and a low look angle to pick
> up Asiasat 2, both of which I could do where I live but not where I
> aim to broadcast from. Is anyone using feeds from other international
> broadcasters, like VOA, NPR, BBC, DW etc? How are you receiving them,
> bearing in mind that we still have third world internet up here.
>
> Is there any NZ news feed we could take without having to pay for it?
> I guess we could get our computer vocaloid to read the front page of
> the online Herald... which might provoke a nasty letter from Messrs
> Sue Grabbitt & Runne
>
> What are people using to play CDs? And where are they buying it?
>
> I'd like to do live OBs (remotes / nemos / location broadcasts -
> what's the terminology here?) around town. Anyone else doing this? How
> are people feeding the signal back to base?
>
> How do I get internet astreaming access? Seems to me this would be
> very costly - unless someone knows different.
>
> That's enough for starters.
>
> Philip
>
> ---Primetime Radio 1ZZ - 107.7, on the air on January 28th.---
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> LPFM Website: http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LPFM_Radio
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 21:06, philip_crookes wrote:

I believe if you can get hold of one of those Satalite Dishes like Sky TV
uses... there is several free to view channels of both TV and Radio
available... I think you can get Satalite decoders, for the free stuff, for
several hundred dollars... just point then in a northerly direction... I
believe you can get the BBC from there.... But you'd need permission from the
BBC of course.

If you have access to a broadband internet connection of say 128k or faster
there is many Audio streams available of radio shows and you could
rebroadcast them with Permission too... eg George Fm, Life Fm, ZM etc... the
list goes on...

> What sustaining programs do we know about? I'm particularly thinking
> of overnights. In UK at The Howl FM I used WRN off the Astra
> satellites, but where I am in NZ (Bay of Islands) this would need
> something like a 3 metre satellite dish and a low look angle to pick
> up Asiasat 2, both of which I could do where I live but not where I
> aim to broadcast from. Is anyone using feeds from other international
> broadcasters, like VOA, NPR, BBC, DW etc? How are you receiving them,
> bearing in mind that we still have third world internet up here.
>
> Is there any NZ news feed we could take without having to pay for it?
> I guess we could get our computer vocaloid to read the front page of
> the online Herald... which might provoke a nasty letter from Messrs
> Sue Grabbitt & Runne


Cheers Geoff Barkman 	 ZL4TUX
--

> Hi all.
>
> On air date for 1ZZ in the Bay of Islands is just 12 weeks away!
>
> I have almost everything I need but am still lacking a mixer panel (do
> I need this if I am runing off a computer?) and a transmitting
> antenna. Suppliers of these items, anyone?

> Where would I get a half-wave dipole for 107.7? Is this something I
> should be able to make with a length of No 8 fencing wire?

A South Island Supplier Hi Tec makes a nice 5/8 whip antenna and/or a folded
diople (antenna) around $250 delivered  03 3843375.  Talk to Greg Harris.
AVW supply a very nice broadcast desk
http://www.axeldigital.com/images/pro/oxygen3st.jpg  available from
http://www.avw.co.nz/supplier_link.htm  0800 474873   Talk to Murray Hunt

> STL. This is a mystery to me. How does it work
A good place to start http://www.martielectronics.com/products/STL_20C.html

> what does it cost /
Lots.   Good doesn't come cheap.  Moderator Ross was looking at 72mHz ish.
??

> how far can it reach
Up to 50 kms in our case

  / does it have to be line of sight?
Generally. Yes
>
> What sustaining programs do we know about? I'm particularly thinking
> of overnights.
BBC World Service (Their current contact is in Sydney I believe. Its's been
13 years since contacted and then they were in Auckland)

In UK at The Howl FM I used WRN off the Astra
> satellites, but where I am in NZ (Bay of Islands) this would need
> something like a 3 metre satellite dish and a low look angle to pick
> up Asiasat 2, both of which I could do where I live but not where I
> aim to broadcast from. Is anyone using feeds from other international
> broadcasters, like VOA, NPR, BBC, DW etc? How are you receiving them,
> bearing in mind that we still have third world internet up here.
>
> Is there any NZ news feed we could take without having to pay for it?

No... All TRN/IRN/RNZ/Radioworks material is subject to strict copyright.
and so is all material owned and produced by newspapers.  This is absolute!
BBC World service have a stream updated hourly but it's inconsistent.  There
has been much discussion in the past about LPFM'ers creating their own news
service.  A starting point might be to contact Ian Cunningham 03 485 9884
(Goldrush Radio, Lawrence, South Otago)  and an LPFM'er (Rob Walker I think)
on the Kapiti coast but he got a job at Radioworks I believe (Scoundrel)

> I guess we could get our computer vocaloid to read the front page of
> the online Herald... which might provoke a nasty letter from Messrs
> Sue Grabbitt & Runne

News media lawyers have a very itchy trigger fingers $$!!
>
> What are people using to play CDs? And where are they buying it?

What's a CD?  Most, if not all LPFM's are playing music off hard drive from
places like http://www.bsiusa.com/accessories/musicstore/musicstore.htm
or from us, ASSC.  Talk to us.   We can help.  We are in touch with a
company which has a music library of 1930's to 2004 including a very
comprehensive KIWI component with every genre catered for and all material
is mastered as uncompressed .wav and can be rendered down to any format.
(mp3, mp2, Ogg, ADPCM, ACM, mp3pro...etc etc) There are licensing
considerations.

> I'd like to do live OBs (remotes / nemos / location broadcasts -
> what's the terminology here?) around town. Anyone else doing this? How
> are people feeding the signal back to base?

TRN vernacular is/was OB's.  See
http://www.martielectronics.com/products/one_way_packages.html   Generally
RSM licence 159-169mHz for their Radio Reporter (OB) service which will give
you about a 7.5kHz audio path.  OK for voice remotes and medium to low
fidelity music. There are a number of other options as well.   (I'm sure our
resident BCL guru Jochen will be glad to do a pitch here.)
>
> How do I get internet streaming access? Seems to me this would be
> very costly - unless someone knows different.

http://www.woosh.com/UserInterface/Woosh/Static/Homepage/Home.aspx  is
satisfactory for download but has some upload issues (latency)
>
> That's enough for starters.
>
> Philip
>
> ---Primetime Radio 1ZZ - 107.7, on the air on January 28th.---

Keep us posted
Good luck

Hi all.

On air date for 1ZZ in the Bay of Islands is just 12 weeks away!

I have almost everything I need but am still lacking a mixer panel (do
I need this if I am runing off a computer?) and a transmitting
antenna. Suppliers of these items, anyone?

Where would I get a half-wave dipole for 107.7? Is this something I
should be able to make with a length of No 8 fencing wire?

STL. This is a mystery to me. How does it work / what does it cost /
how far can it reach / does it have to be line of sight?

What sustaining programs do we know about? I'm particularly thinking
of overnights. In UK at The Howl FM I used WRN off the Astra
satellites, but where I am in NZ (Bay of Islands) this would need
something like a 3 metre satellite dish and a low look angle to pick
up Asiasat 2, both of which I could do where I live but not where I
aim to broadcast from. Is anyone using feeds from other international
broadcasters, like VOA, NPR, BBC, DW etc? How are you receiving them,
bearing in mind that we still have third world internet up here.

Is there any NZ news feed we could take without having to pay for it?
I guess we could get our computer vocaloid to read the front page of
the online Herald... which might provoke a nasty letter from Messrs
Sue Grabbitt & Runne

What are people using to play CDs? And where are they buying it?

I'd like to do live OBs (remotes / nemos / location broadcasts -
what's the terminology here?) around town. Anyone else doing this? How
are people feeding the signal back to base?

How do I get internet astreaming access? Seems to me this would be
very costly - unless someone knows different.

That's enough for starters.

Philip

---Primetime Radio 1ZZ - 107.7, on the air on January 28th.---

We have moved from 88.2 to 88.3.
This is from the mast on the Panmure RSA.
I hope this change helps with the ideals of using uneven numbered freq.
where ever possible.

Robert Houison.

Thanks people this has been a great help
now i actually have a better idea where to start with this stuff

rgds
Corey Shelton

I believe that was the original idea behind LPFM - for A&P Shows and
the like.

Years ago at the last Hero Parade, when at George FM (back in the
early days), we managed to get permission to broadcast 5 watts to
cover the event for about a month or so coz it was a cultural event,
and that was a quite a liberating feeling (the output tx power, not
the hero parade per se!).

You shouldnt have any problems with intereference out in the sticks.

R.

--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Jochen Siegenthaler"
<Jochen.Siegenthaler@b...> wrote:
> I don't believe there is anything in the licence to prevent mobile
> operation, as long as all licence conditions are adhered to (eg:
> identifying station with contact details etc)

> I'm not actually certain the licence allows for mobile LPFM
> transmitters
> as such though... anyone know this one?

> Corey Shelton wrote:
> >basically there are a couple of events that i help organise and
> >would like information about whats going on to be broadcast to ppl
> >in the area with out having to use loud and annoying PA systems.
> >Most of the areas are in the back country and away from major
> >cities.

I don't believe there is anything in the licence to prevent mobile
operation, as long as all licence conditions are adhered to (eg:
identifying station with contact details etc)

As LPFM band use is on a shared basis, the requirement to prevent
interference is one of common courtesy, rather than a licence issue

Jochen


>>> matt@... 4/11/04 >>>


Hi Corey,

I'm actually working on some pages for the LPFM website which will
cover
some of this, but here's the answers in shorter form:

Copyright:
----------------
APRA cover most artists, and if you are Low Power and don't have too
much advertising revenue, then you can get a basic yearly APRA licence

for around $200 which lets you play most music out there. Some stuff
isn't covered and in some cases you should contact the copyright
holders
directly, but APRA will cover most bases.

You should also get a RIANZ contract to cover NZ artists... this costs

around $100ish per year.

Remote Broadcast
---------------------------
It should be very easy to set up a mobile transmitter.... 12v to 230v
inverters are readily available and fairly cheap nowadays, and the
majority of transmitters and stuff actually runs off 12v anyway
(although you might want something to smooth the power out a little if

its from a car/van)

You'd just have to be very careful that you don't interfere with
anyone.

I'm not actually certain the licence allows for mobile LPFM
transmitters
as such though... anyone know this one?


Corey Shelton wrote:

>Hi Guys
>my name is Corey and i/m based in chch.I am really new to this and
>as yet I haven't a LPFM station or any equip.
>
>i have a couple of questions though
>
>firstly how do you get around the copyright licencing for music etc
>or do you get around it?
>
>Secoundly how hard is it to set up a mobile broadcast station like
>from a truck/campervan type setup using a laptop to run the basics -
>what type of power would it need etc
>
>basically there are a couple of events that i help organise and
>would like information about whats going on to be broadcast to ppl
>in the area with out having to use loud and annoying PA systems.
>Most of the areas are in the back country and away from major
>cities.
>
>hope you can help
>
>Corey Shelton
>skylark_28@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi Corey,

I'm actually working on some pages for the LPFM website which will cover
some of this, but here's the answers in shorter form:

Copyright:
----------------
APRA cover most artists, and if you are Low Power and don't have too
much advertising revenue, then you can get a basic yearly APRA licence
for around $200 which lets you play most music out there. Some stuff
isn't covered and in some cases you should contact the copyright holders
directly, but APRA will cover most bases.

You should also get a RIANZ contract to cover NZ artists... this costs
around $100ish per year.

Remote Broadcast
---------------------------
It should be very easy to set up a mobile transmitter.... 12v to 230v
inverters are readily available and fairly cheap nowadays, and the
majority of transmitters and stuff actually runs off 12v anyway
(although you might want something to smooth the power out a little if
its from a car/van)

You'd just have to be very careful that you don't interfere with anyone.

I'm not actually certain the licence allows for mobile LPFM transmitters
as such though... anyone know this one?


Corey Shelton wrote:

>Hi Guys
>my name is Corey and i/m based in chch.I am really new to this and
>as yet I haven't a LPFM station or any equip.
>
>i have a couple of questions though
>
>firstly how do you get around the copyright licencing for music etc
>or do you get around it?
>
>Secoundly how hard is it to set up a mobile broadcast station like
>from a truck/campervan type setup using a laptop to run the basics -
>what type of power would it need etc
>
>basically there are a couple of events that i help organise and
>would like information about whats going on to be broadcast to ppl
>in the area with out having to use loud and annoying PA systems.
>Most of the areas are in the back country and away from major
>cities.
>
>hope you can help
>
>Corey Shelton
>skylark_28@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
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>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi Guys
my name is Corey and i/m based in chch.I am really new to this and
as yet I haven't a LPFM station or any equip.

i have a couple of questions though

firstly how do you get around the copyright licencing for music etc
or do you get around it?

Secoundly how hard is it to set up a mobile broadcast station like
from a truck/campervan type setup using a laptop to run the basics -
what type of power would it need etc

basically there are a couple of events that i help organise and
would like information about whats going on to be broadcast to ppl
in the area with out having to use loud and annoying PA systems.
Most of the areas are in the back country and away from major
cities.

hope you can help

Corey Shelton
skylark_28@...

Saw this in the RSM annual report:

"72 Infringement Notices were issued during the year. The primary area
of
concern was radio transmissions that did not comply with licence
conditions
(58 Notices). Of those 58 Infringement Notices, 25 were issued to a
variety of
landmobile radiotelephone service users, 22 to Low Power FM
Broadcasting
users, and 6 to fixed service users. Commercial high-power
broadcasting
had relatively few issues, with 3 FM broadcasting and 2 television
broadcasting
offences.

A concern with the high number of LPFM offences is that this non-fee
paying
General Licence area has been costly in RSM resource, and is the only
service
that has required search warrant action (3 warrants executed). It
appears likely
that users of this band will continue to push beyond licence limits as
long as
they gain significant commercial advantage from increasing advertising
coverage and revenue."


Jochen
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----- Original Message -----

From: Ross Levis

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 10:58 PM

Subject: Re: [LPFM] New Commercial Radio Ventures

A change of government will not make any difference.  National would likely have less interest in matters of culture and community than Labour.  The Greens seem to me to be the only party that think outside the square and may re-think this policy.  I'm not saying the Greens should take over the country, however.  Let's not get into a political debate.

 

No, the only option is to write a letter to your local MP, the Minister of Broadcasting, and individual letters to all staff at RSM.

 

Ross.

----- Original Message -----

From: andyp@...

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:33 AM

Subject: [LPFM] New Commercial Radio Ventures

The problem with this is that there is currently no allocated spectrum available, and Mr Maharey is unprepared to review the current environment to allow new broadcasters access to the licenced airwaves.

 

Which means people who are wanting to create a brand that is more than a hobby station, and would like to provide employment and contribute to the economy is unable to do so, purely due to the current Government's policy.

 

Hmmm... time to think about who you're voting for, maybe?!

 

If this was able to change, and a reasonably low power registered frequency was available for new upstarts in each region (say 100w for $50,000 PA), the people trying to offer a legitimate new format to the airwaves could give it a crack, and the hobbyists could be hobbyists, without conflict. They could allocate 3 or 4 of these frequencies, available on an annual basis.

 

How nice would that be.

 

Andy

PULZAR FM, Chch

 

---

From: Dave Smith [mailto:radiopegasus@...]
Sent: 30 October 2004 11:40 pm
To: LPFM_Radio@...
Subject: Re: [LPFM] RSM Meeting in Auckland held Tuesday 21st September 2004

For those who want to make money frequencies should be available in other parts of the spectru and those who want to run adverts should pay for the use of

>From: "Richard Phelps" <retrohitradio@...>

>Reply-To: LPFM_Radio@...

>To: LPFM_Radio@...

>Subject: Re: [LPFM] RSM Meeting in Auckland held Tuesday 21st September 2004

>Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:35:56 -0000

>

>

>Hi Ross,

>

>Exactly right. This new legislation will not be able to cover every

>LPFM broadcaster as some a hobbyists, and some like to make a

>(serious) living from it. Those who do may just lift their overheads -

>  and force a loss.

>

>This is what the society is for - to help everyone to commit to

>preserving common interests after good discussion.

>

>Roll on the mext full meeting.

>

>Richard.

>

>by the way Ross, I looked at Station Playlist last night and will be

>in touch, as a friend of mine is setting up his own LPFM (OUSIDE OF

>AUCKLAND if you all must know!). It looks like a comprehensive yet

>simple system.

>

>

>--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Ross Levis" <ross@s...> wrote:

> > I believe a non-commercial status was discussed in the last RSM

>discussion paper involving LPFM.

> >

> >   However there is a big difference between Profit and Non-Profit

> >   organisations, and thats what the RSM were actually talking about.

>

>

>

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--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Dave Smith"
<radiopegasus@h...> wrote:
> Who Owns LBC then

----- Original Message -----

From: andyp@...

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:33 AM

Subject: [LPFM] New Commercial Radio Ventures

The problem with this is that there is currently no allocated spectrum available, and Mr Maharey is unprepared to review the current environment to allow new broadcasters access to the licenced airwaves.

 

Which means people who are wanting to create a brand that is more than a hobby station, and would like to provide employment and contribute to the economy is unable to do so, purely due to the current Government's policy.

 

Hmmm... time to think about who you're voting for, maybe?!

 

If this was able to change, and a reasonably low power registered frequency was available for new upstarts in each region (say 100w for $50,000 PA), the people trying to offer a legitimate new format to the airwaves could give it a crack, and the hobbyists could be hobbyists, without conflict. They could allocate 3 or 4 of these frequencies, available on an annual basis.

 

How nice would that be.

 

Andy

PULZAR FM, Chch

 

---

From: Dave Smith [mailto:radiopegasus@...]
Sent: 30 October 2004 11:40 pm
To: LPFM_Radio@...
Subject: Re: [LPFM] RSM Meeting in Auckland held Tuesday 21st September 2004

For those who want to make money frequencies should be available in other parts of the spectru and those who want to run adverts should pay for the use of

>From: "Richard Phelps" <retrohitradio@...>

>Reply-To: LPFM_Radio@...

>To: LPFM_Radio@...

>Subject: Re: [LPFM] RSM Meeting in Auckland held Tuesday 21st September 2004

>Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 05:35:56 -0000

>

>

>Hi Ross,

>

>Exactly right. This new legislation will not be able to cover every

>LPFM broadcaster as some a hobbyists, and some like to make a

>(serious) living from it. Those who do may just lift their overheads -

>  and force a loss.

>

>This is what the society is for - to help everyone to commit to

>preserving common interests after good discussion.

>

>Roll on the mext full meeting.

>

>Richard.

>

>by the way Ross, I looked at Station Playlist last night and will be

>in touch, as a friend of mine is setting up his own LPFM (OUSIDE OF

>AUCKLAND if you all must know!). It looks like a comprehensive yet

>simple system.

>

>

>--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Ross Levis" <ross@s...> wrote:

> > I believe a non-commercial status was discussed in the last RSM

>discussion paper involving LPFM.

> >

> >   However there is a big difference between Profit and Non-Profit

> >   organisations, and thats what the RSM were actually talking about.

>

>

>

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