The bulletins have national and international news, as we are based in
the South Island its unlikelt to be only North Island News.
The bulletins are ID'd as Independent Network News at the front and
INN at the end with no ads or sponsorship announcements. News and
Sports files are separate so stations can either run them together or
separate them with their own programming or announcements etc.
I have uploaded on of this mornings bulletins as a demo.
Thanks
Ian
--- In LPFM_Radio@..., Johnno <valentine@x...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Are these news bulletins country wide or will in only have north island
> news?
>
> Are these bulletins going to be fill with sponsorship messages?
>
> Is there a Demo around so I can check out the quality?
>
> Many Thanks
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "aggelon2000"
> To: <LPFM_Radio@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:59 PM
> Subject: [LPFM] News
>
>
> > Hi
> >
> > We are now providing news bulletins that would be available to LPFM
> > and independent stations in NZ.
> >
> > They are updated to be ready for broadcast at 0600, 0800, 1000, 1300
> > and 1700 Monday to Friday with one bulletin on Saturdays for 0700
> > This will be increased when demand reaches a critical level.
> >
> > The bulletins are 2'30" with 1'30" of Sport.
> >
> > The cost to non-commercial LPFM is $50 per month and on a sliding
> > scale for commercial operators.
> >
> > Anyone interested please get in touch.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > LPFM Website: http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LPFM_Radio
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
Hi,
Just thought I'd pass this along. Kate's a colleague and friend who
works closely with Pete Tridish in the Prometheus Radio Project, which
I'm sure many of you will have heard of. Not particularly to do with
NZ LPFM - but I know some of you will find this interesting and/or
have contacts that may be able to make use of this opportunity.
Cheers,
Dubber
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Kate Coyer <k.coyer@...>
Date: Mar 15, 2006 8:18 AM
Subject: [RADIO-STUDIES] rare radio licensing opportunity in US
To: RADIO-STUDIES@...
Greetings,
Though this is of particular interest to people in the US, I wanted to
send it along. In short, the FCC is opening up a rare, rare window for
non-profit groups to apply for full power, educational radio stations in
the US. Such an opportunity has not come up in almost 20 years and it
REALLY needs to be taken advantage of!
Please forward this on to anyone you think might be interested or who
knows someone who might be interested, or who knows someone who knows
someone, or might know someone. It has not been easy to reach all the
local community groups who might not already be linked up with national
and international media organisations and academic groups, and thus won't
find out about this rare, rare opportunity until it is too late.
The following email is from the Prometheus Radio Project and outlines some
of the reality of what is involved, especially resources like money and
time. But think about how important Pacifica Radio has been. Local
public radio stations. Democracy Now!. College radio. Community access
radio stations. Open access community stations offer training and
resources to the neighborhood. And some stations just provide a valuable
space for local residents to play their record albums or promote
neighborhood musicians and artists. Not to mention the value of
community-based news. But these stations are the minority.
I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but as we are actively involved in
studying and promoting interest in radio, even we sometimes need a
reminder of how much further we need to spread the word about
opportunities like this. I know for example in Britain, if it weren't for
the Community Media Association, many groups would never had known about
the chance to apply for community licenses. But even still, word needs to
be spread a lot further afield, especially to groups that might not have
thought about running a radio station before because they had no idea it
was an option.
Though this licensing opportunity doesn't help any of us living in the
largest cities, or even medium sized cities, there's no lack of need and
interest in the smaller towns for community radio.
So with that said, I really would like to encourage people with contacts
in the states to send this email on and help spread the word.
(BTW, it is also interesting to read the email below as a case study in
how the US system of licensing works. What a mess!)
Best,
Kate Coyer
*****
Greetings from the Prometheus Radio Project! This note is to inform you
that the FCC is preparing to open a FULL POWER
NON-COMMERCIAL/EDUCATIONAL licensing window.
Non-Commercial Educational (NCE) full power radio licensing had been
hopelessly complicated for the past 15 years, and frozen for more than
five. The FCC has finally made improvements to the application system,
and the first real opportunity to apply since the late 80's will be
coming up soon.
The lay of the land:
-- Very soon, the FCC will open a window for new, full power
non-commercial educational (NCE) radio frequencies.
-- We don.t know yet exactly when, but there will be some warning --
The FCC will give notice announcing when the window will be open,
typically 30 to 60 days in advance.
-- The window itself will last five days.
-- You can only file your application during this 5-day window, so
everything needs to be ready to go.
-- If you do not apply now, it will probably be many, many years before
there will be another chance. To make matters worse, any frequency
worth having will probably be taken in this window of opportunity.
-- The NCE window will probably open sometime in the next 6 months, so
start preparing now. You can not apply before this window of
opportunity, and you can not apply after -- you can only apply while the
window is open. If you want to apply for a full power non-commercial
radio station, this is the one chance for the foreseeable future. Even
the President of the United States, the Supreme Court, and a Fleet of
Martian Space Invaders all working together can not change that. So
take heed --it's now or never!
Applying for full power stations is similar to applying for low power
stations, but there are more rules to follow and it is more complex.
-- The only eligible channels distributed in this window are between
88.1 MHz and 91.9 MHz on the FM dial.
-- Full power stations must be 100 watts or more, up to the 100,000
watt range (depending on your geographic location)!
-- Unlike with low power FM, you must submit an engineering exhibit
proving that your proposed station will cause no interference to
existing radio stations. In low power, the FCC does this for you with
an online channel finder tool that tells you whether a given location
has interference free channels available.
You will need a good frequency!
You can only apply for an open frequency in your geographic region that
does not conflict with any existing stations -- based on the FCC
interference rules. To locate such a frequency, you will need an
engineer to help you do a "frequency search" using the most up-to-date
database from the FCC.
*** This will cost some money. *** A preliminary check for frequency
availability generally costs about $100, a more detailed search is
around $250, and the full engineering exhibit you would be required to
submit to the FCC can cost $2000 -- $3000 to prepare. {Note --
Prometheus is considering buying some of these services in bulk to lower
costs, but applicants should be clear that this process will definitely
cost you some money. There will be many engineers ready to help out.}
Unfortunately, there is no chance in hell that you are eligible for a
full power NCE radio license if you are within 20 miles of the 50
largest cities in the United States, and very little chance if you are
within 30 miles of the largest 100 cities.
So if you call us about this from New York City, LA, or Chicago we will
tell you that you are wasting our time and yours, and hang up. We know
a million people in those places that want a full power radio station.
A full power NCE application, for big city slickers, is barking up the
wrong tree. You should have applied thirty years ago. Sadly, most full
power frequencies in major cities are long gone and today open
frequencies only remain in smaller towns and rural areas. The biggest
city we have found so far with a frequency possibility is a city of
500,000, though many cities that size do not have channels available.
Now, some more background on getting ready to apply:
-- There is no application fee at the FCC, since the service is
non-commercial.
-- You can not apply as an individual -- the applicant must be an
organization with an educational mission.
-- You should be incorporated, but you do not need 501(c)3 (tax-exempt)
status to qualify.
-- You do not have to be a school to have an educational mission, and
there is no requirement for how long your organization has existed.
The FCC does not evaluate the educational mission of applicants - your
educational mission could be "to educate the public about the virtues of
the music of Ozzy Osbourne," and the FCC will essentially interpret that
educational mission as an expression of your freedom of speech. {We
actually wish there were slightly higher standards about this, because
your community organization with all of its local work could easily lose
out to the "Society for the Appreciation of Tomb Raider(tm) Gaming and
Cinema." Unfortunately, there are not higher standards and even the
President of the United States, the Supreme Court, and a Fleet of
Martian Space Invaders all working together can not change that. There
are no sociologists at the FCC, they do not care about the merits of
your idea for a radio station or who it is that is not getting served in
your town.}
-- You definitely will need to hire an engineer to pull this off. {see
above?
-- You will almost certainly need an attorney who practices
communications law. If you are in an area with any population there will
almost certainly be competition for the frequency you are applying for,
and you will need good legal advice, knowledgeable about the workings of
the FCC, to win in that circumstance. You may think you are out in the
sticks, but you are likely in for a surprise when you put in the
application and find yourself up against a church, a school district, a
highway authority or a Charlie's Angels fan club.
-- You also need to demonstrate that you have access to the cash to
construct and operate the station without income for the first 6
months. Depending on the size of the transmitter and other factors,
you may need between $25,000 -- $200,000 to build and operate.
This could be in the form of a building on which a loan could be taken
out on as collateral, or already have the budget of a large organization
(such as a college) that could clearly afford to operate a radio
station, or like many groups, do a lot of fundraising.
-- This can be complicated, but don't be intimidated. There are a lot
of ways to make the finances work. If the past is any indication, it
could take the FCC several years to process your application, giving you
quite a lot of time to build. So in reality you will probably have
plenty of time to raise the cash.
-- Putting in an application will be demanding, and if you really want
a station, be prepared to make an investment in time, effort, and money.
But the prize is worth it.
Prometheus can offer some advice on the application process, but we are
not allocations engineers or lawyers. Give us a call to talk with us
about how we can help. We will try to get you started and point you
towards the assistance you need. But we are a small organization with
limited staff, so if your situation is really complicated (not something
we know off the top of our head) and we have to do significant research
ourselves, we will have to bill you by the hour.
There are some other groups, too, that will be helping groups prepare
applications:
-- National Federation of Community Broadcasters (http://www.nfcb.org)
may be able to help if you join and become a member.
-- Public Radio Capital (http://www.pubcap.org/) is a consultancy that
helps groups find financing for new frequencies. They charge for their
services, but may be able to help you figure out how to find money for
the process.
-- We can also recommend engineers and lawyers directly, but call us
first. Their time is expensive and we can save you some of those
"billable hours (think $200, $300, or $400 dollars an hour) by helping
you figure out what professional assistance you really need.
Don't be discouraged -- be excited!! While this process can be
intimidating, there is nothing mysterious about it and you have as good
a chance of getting a license as anyone else!! We'll do everything we
can to provide you with help and support, and you will have lots of
company.
So sharpen your pencils, the time is at hand, radio station builders!
To get started, you can join our mailing list for the most useful
information on applying for full power stations. Just tell us where
you are, your email and mailing address, the name and website of your
organization, and your goals for the radio station.
And we'll help you go for it!!
Contact:
Pete Tridish, petri@...
Andy Gunn, andy@...
Prometheus Radio Project
http://www.prometheusradio.org
--
-----
hannah sassaman
prometheusradioproject
building radio stations = awesome
http://www.prometheusradio.org
215-727-9620
--
Kate Coyer
Department of Mass Communications
Visiting Lecturer
University of California, Berkeley
www.radiostudiesnetwork.org.uk
--
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Probably for the same reason I started the
station in the first place – so there would always be music on the radio
that I liked – haha. And with streaming, my listeners can listen at work
too ;)
-----Original Message----- From:
LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of Richard Phelps Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006
6:53 PM To: LPFM_Radio@... Subject: [LPFM] Re: Internet
streaming
Hi Thom
Im simply pondering the point of a low powered
community broadcaster streaming on the net. Im not talking about
'brands' that use LPFM spectrum.
If local XYZ-LPFM is reaching a community already,
why bog yourself in extra costs by streaming?
Isolation is true localisation.
RP
--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "VBC
Planning" <vbcplanning@g...> wrote: > > how can you define your own community without
access to others, and in turn > others having access to yours? if you're
treating community radio as a > cultural or academic pursuit, surely a sense
of context is important to the > scope of your own understanding? > > isolation is death. > > thom. > >
Hi Thom
Im simply pondering the point of a low powered community broadcaster
streaming on the net. Im not talking about 'brands' that use LPFM
spectrum.
If local XYZ-LPFM is reaching a community already, why bog yourself
in extra costs by streaming?
Isolation is true localisation.
RP
--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "VBC Planning"
<vbcplanning@g...> wrote:
>
> how can you define your own community without access to others,
and in turn
> others having access to yours? if you're treating community radio
as a
> cultural or academic pursuit, surely a sense of context is
important to the
> scope of your own understanding?
>
> isolation is death.
>
> thom.
>
>
I would be interested in a demo also.
RP
--- In LPFM_Radio@..., Johnno <valentine@x...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Are these news bulletins country wide or will in only have north
island
> news?
>
> Are these bulletins going to be fill with sponsorship messages?
>
> Is there a Demo around so I can check out the quality?
>
> Many Thanks
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "aggelon2000"
> To: <LPFM_Radio@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:59 PM
> Subject: [LPFM] News
>
>
> > Hi
> >
> > We are now providing news bulletins that would be available to
LPFM
> > and independent stations in NZ.
> >
> > They are updated to be ready for broadcast at 0600, 0800, 1000,
1300
> > and 1700 Monday to Friday with one bulletin on Saturdays for 0700
> > This will be increased when demand reaches a critical level.
> >
> > The bulletins are 2'30" with 1'30" of Sport.
> >
> > The cost to non-commercial LPFM is $50 per month and on a sliding
> > scale for commercial operators.
> >
> > Anyone interested please get in touch.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > LPFM Website: http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LPFM_Radio
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
how can you define your own community without access to others, and in turn others having access to yours? if you're treating community radio as a cultural or academic pursuit, surely a sense of context is important to the scope of your own understanding?
I've had many listeners to my LPFM station ask if I stream.
Now, I understand streaming. I understand you can reach a global
audience. I understand you can make money from it, and do all sorts of clever marketing with it.
What I dont understand is why would a community based lpfm stream on the net? ...is this missing the point completely?
Hello,
Are these news bulletins country wide or will in only have north island
news?
Are these bulletins going to be fill with sponsorship messages?
Is there a Demo around so I can check out the quality?
Many Thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: "aggelon2000"
To: <LPFM_Radio@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:59 PM
Subject: [LPFM] News
> Hi
>
> We are now providing news bulletins that would be available to LPFM
> and independent stations in NZ.
>
> They are updated to be ready for broadcast at 0600, 0800, 1000, 1300
> and 1700 Monday to Friday with one bulletin on Saturdays for 0700
> This will be increased when demand reaches a critical level.
>
> The bulletins are 2'30" with 1'30" of Sport.
>
> The cost to non-commercial LPFM is $50 per month and on a sliding
> scale for commercial operators.
>
> Anyone interested please get in touch.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> LPFM Website: http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LPFM_Radio
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Hi
We are now providing news bulletins that would be available to LPFM
and independent stations in NZ.
They are updated to be ready for broadcast at 0600, 0800, 1000, 1300
and 1700 Monday to Friday with one bulletin on Saturdays for 0700
This will be increased when demand reaches a critical level.
The bulletins are 2'30" with 1'30" of Sport.
The cost to non-commercial LPFM is $50 per month and on a sliding
scale for commercial operators.
Anyone interested please get in touch.
What about antennas that use reflectors? How do you measure the
eirp? Is it the maximum power at any given point or the average from
several points?
- Mike.
--- In LPFM_Radio@..., Johnno <valentine@x...> wrote:
>
> Ok thanks for that, Most of the LPFM Radio stations here seem to
use the
> 5/8..
>
> I was looking at a 5/8 being the fact then the wind hits it, it is
not top
> heavy like the dipole..
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jochen Siegenthaler"
> To: <LPFM_Radio@...>;
> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [LPFM] Antenna's
>
>
> No, you cannot get more coverage with a 5/8 on LPFM
>
> The licence restricts your radiated power, so regardless of your
antenna,
> the
> radiated signal is not allowed to be more than 500mW
>
> All that happens with a 5/8 is that you have to wind down your
transmitter
> power.
>
> You're better off staying with a dipole
>
> Jochen
>
>
> >>> Johnno 14/03/2006 9:40 a.m. >>>
> Hello All,
>
> What is the best Antenna To use a Dipole or 5/8 Wave?
>
> I am using a dipole at the moment, but have heard a 5/8 Antenna
hive you
> more coverage.. is this so??
>
> Many Thanks.
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> LPFM Website: http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/LPFM_Radio
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
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Wind load = a valid reason to use a 5/8, but is not related to coverage or signal strength
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>>> Johnno 14/03/2006 2:12 p.m. >>> Ok thanks for that, Most of the LPFM Radio stations here seem to use the 5/8..
I was looking at a 5/8 being the fact then the wind hits it, it is not top heavy like the dipole..
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jochen Siegenthaler" To: <LPFM_Radio@... >; Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [LPFM] Antenna's
No, you cannot get more coverage with a 5/8 on LPFM
The licence restricts your radiated power, so regardless of your antenna, the radiated signal is not allowed to be more than 500mW
All that happens with a 5/8 is that you have to wind down your transmitter power.
You're better off staying with a dipole
Jochen
>>> Johnno 14/03/2006 9:40 a.m. >>> Hello All,
What is the best Antenna To use a Dipole or 5/8 Wave?
I am using a dipole at the moment, but have heard a 5/8 Antenna hive you more coverage.. is this so??
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Ok thanks for that, Most of the LPFM Radio stations here seem to use the
5/8..
I was looking at a 5/8 being the fact then the wind hits it, it is not top
heavy like the dipole..
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jochen Siegenthaler"
To: <LPFM_Radio@...>;
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [LPFM] Antenna's
No, you cannot get more coverage with a 5/8 on LPFM
The licence restricts your radiated power, so regardless of your antenna,
the
radiated signal is not allowed to be more than 500mW
All that happens with a 5/8 is that you have to wind down your transmitter
power.
You're better off staying with a dipole
Jochen
>>> Johnno 14/03/2006 9:40 a.m. >>>
Hello All,
What is the best Antenna To use a Dipole or 5/8 Wave?
I am using a dipole at the moment, but have heard a 5/8 Antenna hive you
more coverage.. is this so??
Many Thanks.
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No, you cannot get more coverage with a 5/8 on LPFM
The licence restricts your radiated power, so regardless of your antenna, the radiated signal is not allowed to be more than 500mW
All that happens with a 5/8 is that you have to wind down your transmitter power.
You're better off staying with a dipole
Jochen
>>> Johnno 14/03/2006 9:40 a.m. >>> Hello All,
What is the best Antenna To use a Dipole or 5/8 Wave?
I am using a dipole at the moment, but have heard a 5/8 Antenna hive you more coverage.. is this so??
Hello All,
What is the best Antenna To use a Dipole or 5/8 Wave?
I am using a dipole at the moment, but have heard a 5/8 Antenna hive you
more coverage.. is this so??
Many Thanks.
Hi everyone
I've had many listeners to my LPFM station ask if I stream.
Now, I understand streaming. I understand you can reach a global
audience. I understand you can make money from it, and do all sorts of
clever marketing with it.
What I dont understand is why would a community based lpfm stream on
the net? ...is this missing the point completely?
just a thought.
RP
You password should be secret. Port number is up to you. The default is 8000 I believe. As long as the encoder and server match, it should work.
If you don't have a web server on the same IP, you could use port 80 which can have advantages. Some corporate firewalls do not allow access to non-standard ports, so using port 80 (HTTP port) can often overcome this issue.
Regards,
Ross.
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-----Original Message----- From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...]On Behalf Of Ross Levis Sent: Monday, 13 March 2006 12:21 p.m. To: LPFM_Radio@... Subject: Re: [LPFM] Internet streaming: how to do it?
I've set up some Shoutcast servers in the past and connected with Shoutcast DSP/Winamp, no problems. It does require some minor changes in the Shoutcast server configuration file. Only the password and port number comes to mind.
A better alternative (in my opinion) is to use Icecast2 server and Oddcast.
Same sort of server configuration issues, but supports encoding MP3 (Lame_Enc.dll), Ogg Vorbis, and AAC Plus streams.
Regards,
Ross.
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Subject: RE: [LPFM] Internet streaming: how to do it?
Has anyone had any success with using shoutcast/winamp - I have tried using it on several P.C's in different locations with no success. It just does not want to connect to the shoutcast server.
Russ
-----Original Message----- From:LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...]On Behalf Of Ross Levis Sent: Monday, 13 March 2006 11:03 a.m. To: LPFM_Radio@... Subject: Re: [LPFM] Internet streaming: how to do it?
I was going to say that 35 to 40GB a month seems much too high for 64kb/s. My 32kb/s stream uses about 10GB a month. I use www.world-net.co.nz as my ISP which provides 20GB traffic/month, 256k download, 128k upload ADSL plan for $49 a month.
This is fine as long as you use an inexpensive US based stream hosting company. I use www.mediacast1.com which costs me around US$20 a month for a max of 25 listeners at any one time.
If you choose to stream in AAC Plus format, Mediacast1 have a current special at US$11.25 a month for 25 listeners (at 32kb/s). Double that for 50 listeners.
Philip, you can stream encode from StationPlaylist Studio directly using the same PC. Contact me privately for details.
Regards,
Ross.
====================================== StationPlaylist.com http://www.stationplaylist.com Low-cost music scheduling, live assist & automation software for radio broadcasting, internet streaming, & in-store music systems. Discussion Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/StationPlaylist ======================================
Subject: RE: [LPFM] Internet streaming: how to do it?
Here's a simple way to work out your monthly data total:
Take your kbps streaming rate, multiply by 324 to get your monthly total in Mbps
So streaming at 64kb/s x 324 = 20,736 Mbytes streamed per month, or 20.7GB
J
>>> elw 13/03/2006 7:57 a.m. >>>
You could try sending it direct to your listeners yourself but yes, you would need a major connection at considerable expense (10 gig pipe and huge traffic limits to overseas maybe). Another option would be to relay your signal to another provider which then sends your signal to your listeners. There are quite a few companies that offer this service like mediacast (I think Ross uses them) but you will need a lot of bandwidth to relay to overseas - I have found it uses somewhere around 35-40 Gig a month to relay Heaven FM in 64Kb Ogg Vorbis 24/7. The only feasible way I found at this stage was to relay to a NZ streaming company using a Telstra 2Meg connection (one tenth bandwidth usage for local traffic) and let them send it out to your listeners. If you're still interested after all that, drop this guy a line - tell him I sent you (hehe), and he may be able to hook you up with an NZ based relay service for around $50-60 month ;) barry@...
Just drop me a line if you got any other questions...
Cheers
Leigh
www.HeavenFM.com
-----Original Message----- From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of philip_crookes Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:03 AM To: LPFM_Radio@... Subject: [LPFM] Internet streaming: how to do it?
I'm looking for any information on how to set up Internet streaming.
What do I need - do I have to buy another computer - do I need another sound card - do I just send it out and tell people my IP address - are there any hidden zraps.
I'm in New Zealand, where our broadband is more fraudband, with a monopoly telco mandating tiny down- and upload caps (the worst plan is limited to 200 MB/month!) and slow slow upload speeds at 128 Kbit/sec.
How would I get onto Shoutcast, and does that make me subject to strange and annoying US regulations?
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I've set up some Shoutcast servers in the past and connected with Shoutcast DSP/Winamp, no problems. It does require some minor changes in the Shoutcast server configuration file. Only the password and port number comes to mind.
A better alternative (in my opinion) is to use Icecast2 server and Oddcast.
Same sort of server configuration issues, but supports encoding MP3 (Lame_Enc.dll), Ogg Vorbis, and AAC Plus streams.
Regards,
Ross.
====================================== StationPlaylist.com http://www.stationplaylist.com Low-cost music scheduling, live assist & automation software for radio broadcasting, internet streaming, & in-store music systems. Discussion Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/StationPlaylist ======================================
Subject: RE: [LPFM] Internet streaming: how to do it?
Has anyone had any success with using shoutcast/winamp - I have tried using it on several P.C's in different locations with no success. It just does not want to connect to the shoutcast server.
Russ
-----Original Message----- From:LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...]On Behalf Of Ross Levis Sent: Monday, 13 March 2006 11:03 a.m. To: LPFM_Radio@... Subject: Re: [LPFM] Internet streaming: how to do it?
I was going to say that 35 to 40GB a month seems much too high for 64kb/s. My 32kb/s stream uses about 10GB a month. I use www.world-net.co.nz as my ISP which provides 20GB traffic/month, 256k download, 128k upload ADSL plan for $49 a month.
This is fine as long as you use an inexpensive US based stream hosting company. I use www.mediacast1.com which costs me around US$20 a month for a max of 25 listeners at any one time.
If you choose to stream in AAC Plus format, Mediacast1 have a current special at US$11.25 a month for 25 listeners (at 32kb/s). Double that for 50 listeners.
Philip, you can stream encode from StationPlaylist Studio directly using the same PC. Contact me privately for details.
Regards,
Ross.
====================================== StationPlaylist.com http://www.stationplaylist.com Low-cost music scheduling, live assist & automation software for radio broadcasting, internet streaming, & in-store music systems. Discussion Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/StationPlaylist ======================================
Subject: RE: [LPFM] Internet streaming: how to do it?
Here's a simple way to work out your monthly data total:
Take your kbps streaming rate, multiply by 324 to get your monthly total in Mbps
So streaming at 64kb/s x 324 = 20,736 Mbytes streamed per month, or 20.7GB
J
>>> elw 13/03/2006 7:57 a.m. >>>
You could try sending it direct to your listeners yourself but yes, you would need a major connection at considerable expense (10 gig pipe and huge traffic limits to overseas maybe). Another option would be to relay your signal to another provider which then sends your signal to your listeners. There are quite a few companies that offer this service like mediacast (I think Ross uses them) but you will need a lot of bandwidth to relay to overseas - I have found it uses somewhere around 35-40 Gig a month to relay Heaven FM in 64Kb Ogg Vorbis 24/7. The only feasible way I found at this stage was to relay to a NZ streaming company using a Telstra 2Meg connection (one tenth bandwidth usage for local traffic) and let them send it out to your listeners. If you're still interested after all that, drop this guy a line - tell him I sent you (hehe), and he may be able to hook you up with an NZ based relay service for around $50-60 month ;) barry@...
Just drop me a line if you got any other questions...
Cheers
Leigh
www.HeavenFM.com
-----Original Message----- From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of philip_crookes Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:03 AM To: LPFM_Radio@... Subject: [LPFM] Internet streaming: how to do it?
I'm looking for any information on how to set up Internet streaming.
What do I need - do I have to buy another computer - do I need another sound card - do I just send it out and tell people my IP address - are there any hidden zraps.
I'm in New Zealand, where our broadband is more fraudband, with a monopoly telco mandating tiny down- and upload caps (the worst plan is limited to 200 MB/month!) and slow slow upload speeds at 128 Kbit/sec.
How would I get onto Shoutcast, and does that make me subject to strange and annoying US regulations?
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Thanks buddy. Just changed servers and
the link wasn’t changed – is being sorted – should be back up
in an hour or two when the name propogates.
-----Original Message----- From:
LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of Ross Levis Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 11:05
AM To: LPFM_Radio@... Subject: Re: [LPFM] Internet
streaming: how to do it?
Leigh, I notice your stream is not
up or your link on your web page isn't working at the moment.
Subject: RE: [LPFM]
Internet streaming: how to do it?
You could try sending it
direct to your listeners yourself but yes, you would need a major connection at
considerable expense (10 gig pipe and huge traffic limits to overseas
maybe). Another option would be to relay your signal to another provider
which then sends your signal to your listeners. There are quite a few
companies that offer this service like mediacast (I think Ross uses them) but
you will need a lot of bandwidth to relay to overseas – I have found it uses
somewhere around 35-40 Gig a month to relay Heaven FM in 64Kb Ogg Vorbis
24/7. The only feasible way I found at this stage was to relay to a NZ
streaming company using a Telstra 2Meg connection (one tenth bandwidth usage
for local traffic) and let them send it out to your listeners. If
you’re still interested after all that, drop this guy a line – tell
him I sent you (hehe), and he may be able to hook you up with an NZ based relay
service for around $50-60 month ;) barry@...
Just drop me a line if
you got any other questions…
Has anyone had any success with using shoutcast/winamp - I have tried using it on several P.C's in different locations with no success. It just does not want to connect to the shoutcast server.
Russ
-----Original Message----- From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...]On Behalf Of Ross Levis Sent: Monday, 13 March 2006 11:03 a.m. To: LPFM_Radio@... Subject: Re: [LPFM] Internet streaming: how to do it?
I was going to say that 35 to 40GB a month seems much too high for 64kb/s. My 32kb/s stream uses about 10GB a month. I use www.world-net.co.nz as my ISP which provides 20GB traffic/month, 256k download, 128k upload ADSL plan for $49 a month.
This is fine as long as you use an inexpensive US based stream hosting company. I use www.mediacast1.com which costs me around US$20 a month for a max of 25 listeners at any one time.
If you choose to stream in AAC Plus format, Mediacast1 have a current special at US$11.25 a month for 25 listeners (at 32kb/s). Double that for 50 listeners.
Philip, you can stream encode from StationPlaylist Studio directly using the same PC. Contact me privately for details.
Regards,
Ross.
====================================== StationPlaylist.com http://www.stationplaylist.com Low-cost music scheduling, live assist & automation software for radio broadcasting, internet streaming, & in-store music systems. Discussion Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/StationPlaylist ======================================
Subject: RE: [LPFM] Internet streaming: how to do it?
Here's a simple way to work out your monthly data total:
Take your kbps streaming rate, multiply by 324 to get your monthly total in Mbps
So streaming at 64kb/s x 324 = 20,736 Mbytes streamed per month, or 20.7GB
J
>>> elw 13/03/2006 7:57 a.m. >>>
You could try sending it direct to your listeners yourself but yes, you would need a major connection at considerable expense (10 gig pipe and huge traffic limits to overseas maybe). Another option would be to relay your signal to another provider which then sends your signal to your listeners. There are quite a few companies that offer this service like mediacast (I think Ross uses them) but you will need a lot of bandwidth to relay to overseas - I have found it uses somewhere around 35-40 Gig a month to relay Heaven FM in 64Kb Ogg Vorbis 24/7. The only feasible way I found at this stage was to relay to a NZ streaming company using a Telstra 2Meg connection (one tenth bandwidth usage for local traffic) and let them send it out to your listeners. If you're still interested after all that, drop this guy a line - tell him I sent you (hehe), and he may be able to hook you up with an NZ based relay service for around $50-60 month ;) barry@...
Just drop me a line if you got any other questions...
Cheers
Leigh
www.HeavenFM.com
-----Original Message----- From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of philip_crookes Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:03 AM To: LPFM_Radio@... Subject: [LPFM] Internet streaming: how to do it?
I'm looking for any information on how to set up Internet streaming.
What do I need - do I have to buy another computer - do I need another sound card - do I just send it out and tell people my IP address - are there any hidden zraps.
I'm in New Zealand, where our broadband is more fraudband, with a monopoly telco mandating tiny down- and upload caps (the worst plan is limited to 200 MB/month!) and slow slow upload speeds at 128 Kbit/sec.
How would I get onto Shoutcast, and does that make me subject to strange and annoying US regulations?
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Subject: RE: [LPFM] Internet streaming: how to do it?
You could try sending it direct to your listeners yourself but yes, you would need a major connection at considerable expense (10 gig pipe and huge traffic limits to overseas maybe). Another option would be to relay your signal to another provider which then sends your signal to your listeners. There are quite a few companies that offer this service like mediacast (I think Ross uses them) but you will need a lot of bandwidth to relay to overseas – I have found it uses somewhere around 35-40 Gig a month to relay Heaven FM in 64Kb Ogg Vorbis 24/7. The only feasible way I found at this stage was to relay to a NZ streaming company using a Telstra 2Meg connection (one tenth bandwidth usage for local traffic) and let them send it out to your listeners. If you’re still interested after all that, drop this guy a line – tell him I sent you (hehe), and he may be able to hook you up with an NZ based relay service for around $50-60 month ;) barry@...
Just drop me a line if you got any other questions…
I was going to say that 35 to 40GB a month seems much too high for 64kb/s. My 32kb/s stream uses about 10GB a month. I use www.world-net.co.nz as my ISP which provides 20GB traffic/month, 256k download, 128k upload ADSL plan for $49 a month.
This is fine as long as you use an inexpensive US based stream hosting company. I use www.mediacast1.com which costs me around US$20 a month for a max of 25 listeners at any one time.
If you choose to stream in AAC Plus format, Mediacast1 have a current special at US$11.25 a month for 25 listeners (at 32kb/s). Double that for 50 listeners.
Philip, you can stream encode from StationPlaylist Studio directly using the same PC. Contact me privately for details.
Regards,
Ross.
====================================== StationPlaylist.com http://www.stationplaylist.com Low-cost music scheduling, live assist & automation software for radio broadcasting, internet streaming, & in-store music systems. Discussion Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/StationPlaylist ======================================
Subject: RE: [LPFM] Internet streaming: how to do it?
Here's a simple way to work out your monthly data total:
Take your kbps streaming rate, multiply by 324 to get your monthly total in Mbps
So streaming at 64kb/s x 324 = 20,736 Mbytes streamed per month, or 20.7GB
J
>>> elw 13/03/2006 7:57 a.m. >>>
You could try sending it direct to your listeners yourself but yes, you would need a major connection at considerable expense (10 gig pipe and huge traffic limits to overseas maybe). Another option would be to relay your signal to another provider which then sends your signal to your listeners. There are quite a few companies that offer this service like mediacast (I think Ross uses them) but you will need a lot of bandwidth to relay to overseas - I have found it uses somewhere around 35-40 Gig a month to relay Heaven FM in 64Kb Ogg Vorbis 24/7. The only feasible way I found at this stage was to relay to a NZ streaming company using a Telstra 2Meg connection (one tenth bandwidth usage for local traffic) and let them send it out to your listeners. If you're still interested after all that, drop this guy a line - tell him I sent you (hehe), and he may be able to hook you up with an NZ based relay service for around $50-60 month ;) barry@...
Just drop me a line if you got any other questions...
Cheers
Leigh
www.HeavenFM.com
-----Original Message----- From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of philip_crookes Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:03 AM To: LPFM_Radio@... Subject: [LPFM] Internet streaming: how to do it?
I'm looking for any information on how to set up Internet streaming.
What do I need - do I have to buy another computer - do I need another sound card - do I just send it out and tell people my IP address - are there any hidden zraps.
I'm in New Zealand, where our broadband is more fraudband, with a monopoly telco mandating tiny down- and upload caps (the worst plan is limited to 200 MB/month!) and slow slow upload speeds at 128 Kbit/sec.
How would I get onto Shoutcast, and does that make me subject to strange and annoying US regulations?
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It's not a monopoly - life is not just ADSL - you also have the option of
using the BCL Extend wireless platform, which is sold by a number of
providers.
It works really well, and has much less latency thatn Telecom's ADSL.
So you actually have around 5 different nationwide broadband providers (incl
Telecom) available in the Bay of Islands, plus whatever locals you have.
You can choose between different Extend products, with varying download and
upload speeds according to your budget.
Cheers, Jochen
>>> philip_crookes 13/03/2006 1:02 a.m. >>>
I'm looking for any information on how to set up Internet streaming.
What do I need - do I have to buy another computer - do I need another
sound card - do I just send it out and tell people my IP address -
are there any hidden zraps.
I'm in New Zealand, where our broadband is more fraudband, with a
monopoly telco mandating tiny down- and upload caps (the worst plan is
limited to 200 MB/month!) and slow slow upload speeds at 128 Kbit/sec.
How would I get onto Shoutcast, and does that make me subject to
strange and annoying US regulations?
What are the experiences of others?
Philip
Primetime 1ZZ
Bay of Islands
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It's not a monopoly - life is not just ADSL - you also have the option of using the BCL Extend wireless platform, which is sold by a number of providers.
It works really well, and has much less latency thatn Telecom's ADSL.
So you actually have around 5 different nationwide broadband providers (incl Telecom) available in the Bay of Islands, plus whatever locals you have.
You can choose between different Extend products, with varying download and upload speeds according to your budget.
Cheers, Jochen
>>> philip_crookes 13/03/2006 1:02 a.m. >>> I'm looking for any information on how to set up Internet streaming.
What do I need - do I have to buy another computer - do I need another sound card - do I just send it out and tell people my IP address - are there any hidden zraps.
I'm in New Zealand, where our broadband is more fraudband, with a monopoly telco mandating tiny down- and upload caps (the worst plan is limited to 200 MB/month!) and slow slow upload speeds at 128 Kbit/sec.
How would I get onto Shoutcast, and does that make me subject to strange and annoying US regulations?
Here's a simple way to work out your monthly data total:
Take your kbps streaming rate, multiply by 324 to get your monthly total in
Mbps
So streaming at 64kb/s x 324 = 20,736 Mbytes streamed per month, or 20.7GB
J
>>> elw 13/03/2006 7:57 a.m. >>>
You could try sending it direct to your listeners yourself but yes, you would
need a major connection at considerable expense (10 gig pipe and huge traffic
limits to overseas maybe). Another option would be to relay your signal to
another provider which then sends your signal to your listeners. There are
quite a few companies that offer this service like mediacast (I think Ross
uses them) but you will need a lot of bandwidth to relay to overseas - I have
found it uses somewhere around 35-40 Gig a month to relay Heaven FM in 64Kb
Ogg Vorbis 24/7. The only feasible way I found at this stage was to relay to a
NZ streaming company using a Telstra 2Meg connection (one tenth bandwidth
usage for local traffic) and let them send it out to your listeners. If you're
still interested after all that, drop this guy a line - tell him I sent you
(hehe), and he may be able to hook you up with an NZ based relay service for
around $50-60 month ;) barry@...
Just drop me a line if you got any other questions...
Cheers
Leigh
www.HeavenFM.com
-----Original Message-----
From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On
Behalf Of philip_crookes
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:03 AM
To: LPFM_Radio@...
Subject: [LPFM] Internet streaming: how to do it?
I'm looking for any information on how to set up Internet streaming.
What do I need - do I have to buy another computer - do I need another
sound card - do I just send it out and tell people my IP address -
are there any hidden zraps.
I'm in New Zealand, where our broadband is more fraudband, with a
monopoly telco mandating tiny down- and upload caps (the worst plan is
limited to 200 MB/month!) and slow slow upload speeds at 128 Kbit/sec.
How would I get onto Shoutcast, and does that make me subject to
strange and annoying US regulations?
What are the experiences of others?
Philip
Primetime 1ZZ
Bay of Islands
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Here's a simple way to work out your monthly data total:
Take your kbps streaming rate, multiply by 324 to get your monthly total in Mbps
So streaming at 64kb/s x 324 = 20,736 Mbytes streamed per month, or 20.7GB
J
>>> elw 13/03/2006 7:57 a.m. >>>
You could try sending it direct to your listeners yourself but yes, you would need a major connection at considerable expense (10 gig pipe and huge traffic limits to overseas maybe). Another option would be to relay your signal to another provider which then sends your signal to your listeners. There are quite a few companies that offer this service like mediacast (I think Ross uses them) but you will need a lot of bandwidth to relay to overseas - I have found it uses somewhere around 35-40 Gig a month to relay Heaven FM in 64Kb Ogg Vorbis 24/7. The only feasible way I found at this stage was to relay to a NZ streaming company using a Telstra 2Meg connection (one tenth bandwidth usage for local traffic) and let them send it out to your listeners. If you're still interested after all that, drop this guy a line - tell him I sent you (hehe), and he may be able to hook you up with an NZ based relay service for around $50-60 month ;) barry@...
Just drop me a line if you got any other questions...
-----Original Message----- From: LPFM_Radio@...[mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of philip_crookes Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:03 AM To: LPFM_Radio@... Subject: [LPFM] Internet streaming: how to do it?
I'm looking for any information on how to set up Internet streaming.
What do I need - do I have to buy another computer - do I need another sound card - do I just send it out and tell people my IP address - are there any hidden zraps.
I'm in New Zealand, where our broadband is more fraudband, with a monopoly telco mandating tiny down- and upload caps (the worst plan is limited to 200 MB/month!) and slow slow upload speeds at 128 Kbit/sec.
How would I get onto Shoutcast, and does that make me subject to strange and annoying US regulations?
You could try sending it direct to your
listeners yourself but yes, you would need a major connection at considerable
expense (10 gig pipe and huge traffic limits to overseas maybe). Another
option would be to relay your signal to another provider which then sends your
signal to your listeners. There are quite a few companies that offer this
service like mediacast (I think Ross uses them) but you will need a lot of
bandwidth to relay to overseas – I have found it uses somewhere around
35-40 Gig a month to relay Heaven FM in 64Kb Ogg Vorbis 24/7. The only
feasible way I found at this stage was to relay to a NZ streaming company using
a Telstra 2Meg connection (one tenth bandwidth usage for local traffic) and let
them send it out to your listeners. If you’re still interested
after all that, drop this guy a line – tell him I sent you (hehe), and he
may be able to hook you up with an NZ based relay service for around $50-60
month ;) barry@...
Just drop me a line if you got any other
questions…
-----Original Message----- From:
LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of philip_crookes Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:03
AM To: LPFM_Radio@... Subject: [LPFM] Internet
streaming: how to do it?
I'm looking for any information on how to set up
Internet streaming.
What do I need - do I have to buy another computer
- do I need another sound card - do I just send it out and tell
people my IP address - are there any hidden zraps.
I'm in New Zealand, where our broadband is more
fraudband, with a monopoly telco mandating tiny down- and upload
caps (the worst plan is limited to 200 MB/month!) and slow slow upload
speeds at 128 Kbit/sec.
How would I get onto Shoutcast, and does that make
me subject to strange and annoying US regulations?
I'm looking for any information on how to set up Internet streaming.
What do I need - do I have to buy another computer - do I need another
sound card - do I just send it out and tell people my IP address -
are there any hidden zraps.
I'm in New Zealand, where our broadband is more fraudband, with a
monopoly telco mandating tiny down- and upload caps (the worst plan is
limited to 200 MB/month!) and slow slow upload speeds at 128 Kbit/sec.
How would I get onto Shoutcast, and does that make me subject to
strange and annoying US regulations?
What are the experiences of others?
Philip
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