----- Original Message -----

From: Edwin Hermann

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 6:55 PM

Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [LPFM] re LPFM

I tend to agree with Jochen.  We did well out of it.  Twice the power,
more frequencies.

Sure, we'd all love 10 watts and even more frequencies such as taking up
some of the unused space in the 100-108 MHz part of the band, but let's
be realistic.  We pay nothing for this and every so often there's an
improvement.

Remember going from 300 mW to 500 mW?  And from 88.1-88.4 to 88.1-88.7?
  And the maximum of 2 transmitters in 25 km radius rule? (which is good
because it keeps out those trying to "blanket" the area).  Now we have
more frequencies and doubling of power.  Let's be a little grateful :)

There also seems to be a lot of speculation.  It's great to see such
enthusiasm, but is it really helpful to hound MED staff for details?
Why not just wait until the GURL is published or an announcement made by
MED?

I tend to agree with Jochen.  We did well out of it.  Twice the power,
more frequencies.

Sure, we'd all love 10 watts and even more frequencies such as taking up
some of the unused space in the 100-108 MHz part of the band, but let's
be realistic.  We pay nothing for this and every so often there's an
improvement.

Remember going from 300 mW to 500 mW?  And from 88.1-88.4 to 88.1-88.7?
   And the maximum of 2 transmitters in 25 km radius rule? (which is good
because it keeps out those trying to "blanket" the area).  Now we have
more frequencies and doubling of power.  Let's be a little grateful :)

There also seems to be a lot of speculation.  It's great to see such
enthusiasm, but is it really helpful to hound MED staff for details?
Why not just wait until the GURL is published or an announcement made by
MED?




kiwihamsteve wrote:
> Re Comments
>
> 500mW to 1 watt, well big deal !! Gosh they are generous ! it might
> give you a few percent extra coverage  most wont notice any
> difference !!
> The extended freq range will benefit on the Kapiti Coast now that
> 88.6 is A high Power commercial channel here for a local station that
> was moved off a freq last month owned by another licence holder .
>
> Steve J
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

kiwihamsteve wrote:

> Yes Height of a LPFM Antenna makes a huge increase in coverage if its
> high. I remember when Turoa Skifields ran an 88 Mhz one in past years
> from the Ticket Office area   altitute aprox 1620 metres.  Coverage
> was huge to the South / South West area !!
>
> SteveJ

Hi Steve and all Group members

Acting as the chairman of The Society of Low Power FM Broadcasters
Incorporated, I have spent some time this afternoon trying to contact
MED / RSM to seek some clarification on the "height" situation.

So far I have not had any luck, but will continue to try and contact
various people and will post here if / when I have more information.

Regards
DaveD

The aerial height has to be defined as above some reference point simply
because New Zealand isn't flat.

As an example, our Stratford aerial is about 12 metres above ground and only 2
metres above the building it is on, but the ground is approx 300 metres above
sea level, and Stratford is sort of flat with no hill, apart for the one
several kilometres to the west.

Our Napier aerial is 6 metres above the building it is on and approx 25 metres
above ground on the top of a hill that is about 60 metres above sea level.
Napier is also relatively flat with the except of the hill that we are
transmitting from .

So, let's sit back and wait for RSM to try and define just what is aerial
height, and then we can get excited and argue about how fair we think it is
then.

On 4 Oct 2006 at 15:21, Matt Camp wrote:

>
> You're missing the option for "It's fine - Leave it alone."
>
> Enforcing height restrictions is just going to cost the RSM money that
> they will never recover from LPFM broadcasters... given the efforts we've
> gone to in recent past to reduce RSM's costs relating to LPFM (ie, forming
> a society to resolve disputes), it's disappointing that they may now add
> additional restrictions... I wasn't even aware they were worried about tx
> height previously.
>
> Until they release more firm info there is no point getting all excited
> about it anyway.

----- Original Message -----

From: Ross Levis

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 2:53 PM

Subject: [LPFM] re: LPFM height restriction

I'm guessing that the height restriction would have to be the height of the antenna above the ground.  Someone situated in a gully is basically stuffed.  No point in starting a station at all, unless 50 listeners is all you are after.  Those living in higher areas have an unfair advantage.

 

There is no mention of making links illegal, so there is nothing stopping anyone from linking to a site on a hill or mountain.  This is what those in low areas will now be forced to do.  Just extra expense for no good reason.

 

Ross.

----- Original Message -----

From: Richard Phelps

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 2:12 PM

Subject: [LPFM] re: LPFM height restriction

Hi group,

I support height restriction for LPFM.

Many LPFMers who are fortunate to either live on the side of a hill
overlooking some of their broadcast area, or using a friends
place/site on a hill will no doubt NOT like height restriction.

Even those broadcasters who have gone through strenuous effort to buy
filtering equipment or constructing transmitter towers to best reach
their indended community of people, while being mindful of the
volatile LPFM environment may disagree, but I believe they are the
ones that need to be applauded and I'd expect the govt to consider
them first when it comes to applications for community licenses.

NZ is geographically hilly, so yes, height restrictions would limit
the range for most LPFM operators, yet the doubling of power would
increase the signal strength to the broadcast area instead. Thats the
pressing topic from half the correspondence I get from listeners!
"when are you increasing your power?". While it won't give us bigger
reach, our signal will me much easier to pick up (within the intended
b/c area).

Some areas/towns in NZ are elevated like Titirangi, so height
restriction may not be the best idea for this area, nor would a
community license do anyone any favours because of the altitude (and
leaking coverage into other community licensed co-channel zones).
However, neighbouring Piha is geographically tricky, but because it is
isolated, something like a community license would benefit. I feel if
things were dealt on a case by case basis, it would be the best way to
tackle power issues. Licensing (even if it results with a special
granted MPFM frequency, for example) would be the way forward for
those affected by a height restriction.

cheers,

Richard

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Yes Height of a LPFM Antenna makes a huge increase in coverage if its
high. I remember when Turoa Skifields ran an 88 Mhz one in past years
from the Ticket Office area   altitute aprox 1620 metres.  Coverage
was huge to the South / South West area !!

SteveJ

You're missing the option for "It's fine - Leave it alone."

Enforcing height restrictions is just going to cost the RSM money that
they will never recover from LPFM broadcasters... given the efforts we've
gone to in recent past to reduce RSM's costs relating to LPFM (ie, forming
a society to resolve disputes), it's disappointing that they may now add
additional restrictions... I wasn't even aware they were worried about tx
height previously.

Until they release more firm info there is no point getting all excited
about it anyway.


>
> Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
> LPFM_Radio group:
>
> What height restriction do you think the govt would set for the GURL?
> As a reference...
> Mt Maunganui: 230m
> Auckland Skytower: 328m
> Sugarloaf Christchurch: 496m
> Dunedin's Mt Cargill: 785m
> Mt Te Aroha: 952m (excluding the tx site!)
>
>   o 1-10m
>   o 10-50m
>   o 50-100m
>   o 100-200m
>   o 200-500m
>
>
> To vote, please visit the following web page:
>
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>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
LPFM_Radio group:

What height restriction do you think the govt would set for the GURL?
As a reference...
Mt Maunganui: 230m
Auckland Skytower: 328m
Sugarloaf Christchurch: 496m
Dunedin's Mt Cargill: 785m
Mt Te Aroha: 952m (excluding the tx site!)

   o 1-10m
   o 10-50m
   o 50-100m
   o 100-200m
   o 200-500m


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----- Original Message -----

From: Richard Phelps

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 2:12 PM

Subject: [LPFM] re: LPFM height restriction

Hi group,

I support height restriction for LPFM.

Many LPFMers who are fortunate to either live on the side of a hill
overlooking some of their broadcast area, or using a friends
place/site on a hill will no doubt NOT like height restriction.

Even those broadcasters who have gone through strenuous effort to buy
filtering equipment or constructing transmitter towers to best reach
their indended community of people, while being mindful of the
volatile LPFM environment may disagree, but I believe they are the
ones that need to be applauded and I'd expect the govt to consider
them first when it comes to applications for community licenses.

NZ is geographically hilly, so yes, height restrictions would limit
the range for most LPFM operators, yet the doubling of power would
increase the signal strength to the broadcast area instead. Thats the
pressing topic from half the correspondence I get from listeners!
"when are you increasing your power?". While it won't give us bigger
reach, our signal will me much easier to pick up (within the intended
b/c area).

Some areas/towns in NZ are elevated like Titirangi, so height
restriction may not be the best idea for this area, nor would a
community license do anyone any favours because of the altitude (and
leaking coverage into other community licensed co-channel zones).
However, neighbouring Piha is geographically tricky, but because it is
isolated, something like a community license would benefit. I feel if
things were dealt on a case by case basis, it would be the best way to
tackle power issues. Licensing (even if it results with a special
granted MPFM frequency, for example) would be the way forward for
those affected by a height restriction.

cheers,

Richard

Re Height restrictions . Is it SITE Height or Antenna Height ? or Both
you could take that either way unless it is stated in the GURL   and I
havent seen a GURL Update !!

SteevJ

Hi group,

I support height restriction for LPFM.

Many LPFMers who are fortunate to either live on the side of a hill
overlooking some of their broadcast area, or using a friends
place/site on a hill will no doubt NOT like height restriction.

Even those broadcasters who have gone through strenuous effort to buy
filtering equipment or constructing transmitter towers to best reach
their indended community of people, while being mindful of the
volatile LPFM environment may disagree, but I believe they are the
ones that need to be applauded and I'd expect the govt to consider
them first when it comes to applications for community licenses.

NZ is geographically hilly, so yes, height restrictions would limit
the range for most LPFM operators, yet the doubling of power would
increase the signal strength to the broadcast area instead. Thats the
pressing topic from half the correspondence I get from listeners!
"when are you increasing your power?". While it won't give us bigger
reach, our signal will me much easier to pick up (within the intended
b/c area).

Some areas/towns in NZ are elevated like Titirangi, so height
restriction may not be the best idea for this area, nor would a
community license do anyone any favours because of the altitude (and
leaking coverage into other community licensed co-channel zones).
However, neighbouring Piha is geographically tricky, but because it is
isolated, something like a community license would benefit. I feel if
things were dealt on a case by case basis, it would be the best way to
tackle power issues. Licensing (even if it results with a special
granted MPFM frequency, for example) would be the way forward for
those affected by a height restriction.

cheers,

Richard


--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Groove 107.7FM" <dean.c@p...>
wrote:
>
> I too am concearned about the height. Without our current height our
signal would be gobbled up by the neighbours.
>
> Dean
> Groove 107.7FM
> Wellington
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Ross Levis
>   To: LPFM_Radio@...
>   Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 5:00 PM
>   Subject: Re: [LPFM]
>
>
>   A measly 1 watt.  Well better than nothing I suppose.
>
>   But I'm concerned about the transmitter height.  Do they mean
antenna height above the ground where the transmitter resides?  I'm a
bit worried about this one.

Does anyone know when the MED?/RSM  GURL for LowPower FM will be
updated so we can increase power to the new level ??

Thanks
Steve

Come on guys, what did you really expect.

LPFM has ever only been intended as a means of local broadcasting.

I know a lot of us do push the boundaries to their limits, and beyond.

LPFM is not, and never will be, a way of making money in broadcasting.

Lets be grateful to what the government has agreed to for now and through the
society lets lobby them for better conditions that will help improve on what we
have.

Robert
TLC Radio.

On 4 Oct 2006 at 7:08, Brian Gallagher wrote:

> Huh?
>   Some enhancement!
>
> Jesse Archer <jesse.archer@...> wrote:
>                 “Community broadcasting will also be enhanced through a modest
>                 increase in power for users of Low Power FM Broadcasting.
These
>                 users generally serve local neighbourhoods and niche
audiences.”
>
>   http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0610/S00043.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> On Yahoo!7
>   Caller tones: Replace your ring tone with your favourite sound clip!

“Community broadcasting will also be enhanced through a modest increase in power for users of Low Power FM Broadcasting. These users generally serve local neighbourhoods and niche audiences.”

 

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0610/S00043.htm

 

 

  

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----- Original Message -----

From: Jochen Siegenthaler

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:56 PM

Subject: RE: [LPFM]

You got a doubling of your power levels

 

Whilst the net amount is still low, a 3dB increase is still a 3dB increase, and it is still a  doubling of your power.

 

You got the extended frequency range as well, to allow for more stations on 87.5 to 88.4

 

88.4 to 88.8 becomes fully commercial, so will be closed off to LPFM.

This will be effective latest 1 Jan 2009, or possibly earlier if the land mobile can be cleared out of 87.5 to 88.4 earlier.

 

This means the Mai FM LPFM restriction will cease to exist, and Auckland will now have the same amount of LPFM space as every other city, another big win for Auckland

 

I'd say LPFM did quite well out of this.

--

Jochen Siegenthaler

Account Manager

 

t: 09-916 6439 / m: 021-245 6243

 

---

From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of Aaron
Sent: Tuesday, 3 October 2006 2:33 p.m.
To: LPFM_Radio@...
Subject: Re: [LPFM]

So commercial radio got what it wanted (which is a new regulation they can use to strangle us with) and the minister got to say he gave us a 'modest' increase (which will make amost no noticeable difference).

 

In other words it's business as usual

 

or in some more other words; We was shafted (which is the same thing)

 

Aaron

----- Original Message -----

From: Tony Katavich

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:06 PM

Subject: Re: [LPFM]

this is more useful -

 

http://www.rsm.govt.nz/spp/vhf-fm/cab-minute-20060726/index.html

 

and in particular

 

Low Power FM Broadcasting (LPFM)

1. 10. noted that the Ministry of Economic Development (MED) considers that the proposal to increase the power limit for LPFM broadcasts from 0.5 to 5.0 watts in part of the band is not appropriate, although widely supported, due to wider considerations of equity and competition with existing broadcasters;
2. 11. noted the MED considers that a minor increase in power for LPFM broadcasting to 1 watt with restrictions on transmitter height is more appropriate, and proposes to amend the General User LPFM licence accordingly;

 

 

Tony

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Phil Grey

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:48 PM

Subject: RE: [LPFM]

Well, so far there’s this, which tells us five-eighths of f – all regarding LPFM.

 

http://www.rsm.govt.nz/spp/vhf-fm/media/minister-20061003.html

 

 

 

Phil Grey

General Manager

Community Radio Hamilton FM 106.7 / AM 1206

ddi 07 8342170   cell 021 710 705

www.communityradio.co.nz

---

From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of Ross Levis
Sent: Tuesday, 3 October 2006 1:05 p.m.
To: LPFM_Radio@...
Subject: Re: [LPFM]

 

Please keep us informed.

----- Original Message -----

From: Phil Grey

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:21 AM

Subject: RE: [LPFM]

 

I have tuned in, and contributed to, the announcement and talkback on Wellington Access Radio. Yes, an increase in LPFM power, but no mention by Cunliffe of what the new level will be. I expect to receive the hard copy shortly.

 

 

Phil Grey

General Manager

Community Radio Hamilton FM 106.7 / AM 1206

ddi 07 8342170   cell 021 710 705

www.communityradio.co.nz

---

From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of DuffyFamily
Sent: Tuesday, 3 October 2006 10:12 a.m.
To: LPFM_Radio@...
Subject: [LPFM]

 

So the Govt. has just announced an increase, sorry modest increase in the lpfm power output. I missed just how modest. Does anyone know or heard it on the radio.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Ross Levis

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 5:00 PM

Subject: Re: [LPFM]

A measly 1 watt.  Well better than nothing I suppose.

 

But I'm concerned about the transmitter height.  Do they mean antenna height above the ground where the transmitter resides?  I'm a bit worried about this one.

 

You mention 88.4 being both commercial and for LPFM.  Which is it?  If it was done logically, LPFM would be 87.5 to 88.4, with the first commercial FM at 88.6.  Hopefully that's the situation.

 

Ross.

----- Original Message -----

From: Jochen Siegenthaler

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:56 PM

Subject: RE: [LPFM]

You got a doubling of your power levels

 

Whilst the net amount is still low, a 3dB increase is still a 3dB increase, and it is still a  doubling of your power.

 

You got the extended frequency range as well, to allow for more stations on 87.5 to 88.4

 

88.4 to 88.8 becomes fully commercial, so will be closed off to LPFM.

This will be effective latest 1 Jan 2009, or possibly earlier if the land mobile can be cleared out of 87.5 to 88.4 earlier.

 

This means the Mai FM LPFM restriction will cease to exist, and Auckland will now have the same amount of LPFM space as every other city, another big win for Auckland

 

I'd say LPFM did quite well out of this.

--

Jochen Siegenthaler

Account Manager

 

t: 09-916 6439 / m: 021-245 6243

 

---

From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of Aaron
Sent: Tuesday, 3 October 2006 2:33 p.m.
To: LPFM_Radio@...
Subject: Re: [LPFM]

So commercial radio got what it wanted (which is a new regulation they can use to strangle us with) and the minister got to say he gave us a 'modest' increase (which will make amost no noticeable difference).

 

In other words it's business as usual

 

or in some more other words; We was shafted (which is the same thing)

 

Aaron

----- Original Message -----

From: Tony Katavich

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:06 PM

Subject: Re: [LPFM]

this is more useful -

 

http://www.rsm.govt.nz/spp/vhf-fm/cab-minute-20060726/index.html

 

and in particular

 

Low Power FM Broadcasting (LPFM)

1. 10. noted that the Ministry of Economic Development (MED) considers that the proposal to increase the power limit for LPFM broadcasts from 0.5 to 5.0 watts in part of the band is not appropriate, although widely supported, due to wider considerations of equity and competition with existing broadcasters;
2. 11. noted the MED considers that a minor increase in power for LPFM broadcasting to 1 watt with restrictions on transmitter height is more appropriate, and proposes to amend the General User LPFM licence accordingly;

 

 

Tony

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Phil Grey

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:48 PM

Subject: RE: [LPFM]

Well, so far there’s this, which tells us five-eighths of f – all regarding LPFM.

 

http://www.rsm.govt.nz/spp/vhf-fm/media/minister-20061003.html

 

 

 

Phil Grey

General Manager

Community Radio Hamilton FM 106.7 / AM 1206

ddi 07 8342170   cell 021 710 705

www.communityradio.co.nz

---

From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of Ross Levis
Sent: Tuesday, 3 October 2006 1:05 p.m.
To: LPFM_Radio@...
Subject: Re: [LPFM]

 

Please keep us informed.

----- Original Message -----

From: Phil Grey

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:21 AM

Subject: RE: [LPFM]

 

I have tuned in, and contributed to, the announcement and talkback on Wellington Access Radio. Yes, an increase in LPFM power, but no mention by Cunliffe of what the new level will be. I expect to receive the hard copy shortly.

 

 

Phil Grey

General Manager

Community Radio Hamilton FM 106.7 / AM 1206

ddi 07 8342170   cell 021 710 705

www.communityradio.co.nz

---

From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of DuffyFamily
Sent: Tuesday, 3 October 2006 10:12 a.m.
To: LPFM_Radio@...
Subject: [LPFM]

 

So the Govt. has just announced an increase, sorry modest increase in the lpfm power output. I missed just how modest. Does anyone know or heard it on the radio.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Jochen Siegenthaler

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:56 PM

Subject: RE: [LPFM]

You got a doubling of your power levels

 

Whilst the net amount is still low, a 3dB increase is still a 3dB increase, and it is still a  doubling of your power.

 

You got the extended frequency range as well, to allow for more stations on 87.5 to 88.4

 

88.4 to 88.8 becomes fully commercial, so will be closed off to LPFM.

This will be effective latest 1 Jan 2009, or possibly earlier if the land mobile can be cleared out of 87.5 to 88.4 earlier.

 

This means the Mai FM LPFM restriction will cease to exist, and Auckland will now have the same amount of LPFM space as every other city, another big win for Auckland

 

I'd say LPFM did quite well out of this.

--

Jochen Siegenthaler

Account Manager

 

t: 09-916 6439 / m: 021-245 6243

 

---

From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of Aaron
Sent: Tuesday, 3 October 2006 2:33 p.m.
To: LPFM_Radio@...
Subject: Re: [LPFM]

So commercial radio got what it wanted (which is a new regulation they can use to strangle us with) and the minister got to say he gave us a 'modest' increase (which will make amost no noticeable difference).

 

In other words it's business as usual

 

or in some more other words; We was shafted (which is the same thing)

 

Aaron

----- Original Message -----

From: Tony Katavich

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:06 PM

Subject: Re: [LPFM]

this is more useful -

 

http://www.rsm.govt.nz/spp/vhf-fm/cab-minute-20060726/index.html

 

and in particular

 

Low Power FM Broadcasting (LPFM)

1. 10. noted that the Ministry of Economic Development (MED) considers that the proposal to increase the power limit for LPFM broadcasts from 0.5 to 5.0 watts in part of the band is not appropriate, although widely supported, due to wider considerations of equity and competition with existing broadcasters;
2. 11. noted the MED considers that a minor increase in power for LPFM broadcasting to 1 watt with restrictions on transmitter height is more appropriate, and proposes to amend the General User LPFM licence accordingly;

 

 

Tony

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Phil Grey

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:48 PM

Subject: RE: [LPFM]

Well, so far there’s this, which tells us five-eighths of f – all regarding LPFM.

 

http://www.rsm.govt.nz/spp/vhf-fm/media/minister-20061003.html

 

 

 

Phil Grey

General Manager

Community Radio Hamilton FM 106.7 / AM 1206

ddi 07 8342170   cell 021 710 705

www.communityradio.co.nz

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From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of Ross Levis
Sent: Tuesday, 3 October 2006 1:05 p.m.
To: LPFM_Radio@...
Subject: Re: [LPFM]

 

Please keep us informed.

----- Original Message -----

From: Phil Grey

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:21 AM

Subject: RE: [LPFM]

 

I have tuned in, and contributed to, the announcement and talkback on Wellington Access Radio. Yes, an increase in LPFM power, but no mention by Cunliffe of what the new level will be. I expect to receive the hard copy shortly.

 

 

Phil Grey

General Manager

Community Radio Hamilton FM 106.7 / AM 1206

ddi 07 8342170   cell 021 710 705

www.communityradio.co.nz

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From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of DuffyFamily
Sent: Tuesday, 3 October 2006 10:12 a.m.
To: LPFM_Radio@...
Subject: [LPFM]

 

So the Govt. has just announced an increase, sorry modest increase in the lpfm power output. I missed just how modest. Does anyone know or heard it on the radio.

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500mW to 1 watt, well big deal !! Gosh they are generous ! it might
give you a few percent extra coverage  most wont notice any
difference !!
The extended freq range will benefit on the Kapiti Coast now that
88.6 is A high Power commercial channel here for a local station that
was moved off a freq last month owned by another licence holder .

Steve J

----- Original Message -----

From: Tony Katavich

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:06 PM

Subject: Re: [LPFM]

this is more useful -

 

http://www.rsm.govt.nz/spp/vhf-fm/cab-minute-20060726/index.html

 

and in particular

 

Low Power FM Broadcasting (LPFM)

1. 10. noted that the Ministry of Economic Development (MED) considers that the proposal to increase the power limit for LPFM broadcasts from 0.5 to 5.0 watts in part of the band is not appropriate, although widely supported, due to wider considerations of equity and competition with existing broadcasters;
2. 11. noted the MED considers that a minor increase in power for LPFM broadcasting to 1 watt with restrictions on transmitter height is more appropriate, and proposes to amend the General User LPFM licence accordingly;

 

 

Tony

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Phil Grey

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:48 PM

Subject: RE: [LPFM]

Well, so far there’s this, which tells us five-eighths of f – all regarding LPFM.

 

http://www.rsm.govt.nz/spp/vhf-fm/media/minister-20061003.html

 

 

 

Phil Grey

General Manager

Community Radio Hamilton FM 106.7 / AM 1206

ddi 07 8342170   cell 021 710 705

www.communityradio.co.nz

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From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of Ross Levis
Sent: Tuesday, 3 October 2006 1:05 p.m.
To: LPFM_Radio@...
Subject: Re: [LPFM]

 

Please keep us informed.

----- Original Message -----

From: Phil Grey

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:21 AM

Subject: RE: [LPFM]

 

I have tuned in, and contributed to, the announcement and talkback on Wellington Access Radio. Yes, an increase in LPFM power, but no mention by Cunliffe of what the new level will be. I expect to receive the hard copy shortly.

 

 

Phil Grey

General Manager

Community Radio Hamilton FM 106.7 / AM 1206

ddi 07 8342170   cell 021 710 705

www.communityradio.co.nz

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From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of DuffyFamily
Sent: Tuesday, 3 October 2006 10:12 a.m.
To: LPFM_Radio@...
Subject: [LPFM]

 

So the Govt. has just announced an increase, sorry modest increase in the lpfm power output. I missed just how modest. Does anyone know or heard it on the radio.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Tony Katavich

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:06 PM

Subject: Re: [LPFM]

this is more useful -

 

http://www.rsm.govt.nz/spp/vhf-fm/cab-minute-20060726/index.html

 

and in particular

 

Low Power FM Broadcasting (LPFM)

1. 10. noted that the Ministry of Economic Development (MED) considers that the proposal to increase the power limit for LPFM broadcasts from 0.5 to 5.0 watts in part of the band is not appropriate, although widely supported, due to wider considerations of equity and competition with existing broadcasters;
2. 11. noted the MED considers that a minor increase in power for LPFM broadcasting to 1 watt with restrictions on transmitter height is more appropriate, and proposes to amend the General User LPFM licence accordingly;

 

 

Tony

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Phil Grey

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:48 PM

Subject: RE: [LPFM]

Well, so far there’s this, which tells us five-eighths of f – all regarding LPFM.

 

http://www.rsm.govt.nz/spp/vhf-fm/media/minister-20061003.html

 

 

 

Phil Grey

General Manager

Community Radio Hamilton FM 106.7 / AM 1206

ddi 07 8342170   cell 021 710 705

www.communityradio.co.nz

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From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of Ross Levis
Sent: Tuesday, 3 October 2006 1:05 p.m.
To: LPFM_Radio@...
Subject: Re: [LPFM]

 

Please keep us informed.

----- Original Message -----

From: Phil Grey

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:21 AM

Subject: RE: [LPFM]

 

I have tuned in, and contributed to, the announcement and talkback on Wellington Access Radio. Yes, an increase in LPFM power, but no mention by Cunliffe of what the new level will be. I expect to receive the hard copy shortly.

 

 

Phil Grey

General Manager

Community Radio Hamilton FM 106.7 / AM 1206

ddi 07 8342170   cell 021 710 705

www.communityradio.co.nz

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From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of DuffyFamily
Sent: Tuesday, 3 October 2006 10:12 a.m.
To: LPFM_Radio@...
Subject: [LPFM]

 

So the Govt. has just announced an increase, sorry modest increase in the lpfm power output. I missed just how modest. Does anyone know or heard it on the radio.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Phil Grey

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:48 PM

Subject: RE: [LPFM]

Well, so far there’s this, which tells us five-eighths of f – all regarding LPFM.

 

http://www.rsm.govt.nz/spp/vhf-fm/media/minister-20061003.html

 

 

 

Phil Grey

General Manager

Community Radio Hamilton FM 106.7 / AM 1206

ddi 07 8342170   cell 021 710 705

www.communityradio.co.nz

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From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of Ross Levis
Sent: Tuesday, 3 October 2006 1:05 p.m.
To: LPFM_Radio@...
Subject: Re: [LPFM]

 

Please keep us informed.

----- Original Message -----

From: Phil Grey

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:21 AM

Subject: RE: [LPFM]

 

I have tuned in, and contributed to, the announcement and talkback on Wellington Access Radio. Yes, an increase in LPFM power, but no mention by Cunliffe of what the new level will be. I expect to receive the hard copy shortly.

 

 

Phil Grey

General Manager

Community Radio Hamilton FM 106.7 / AM 1206

ddi 07 8342170   cell 021 710 705

www.communityradio.co.nz

---

From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of DuffyFamily
Sent: Tuesday, 3 October 2006 10:12 a.m.
To: LPFM_Radio@...
Subject: [LPFM]

 

So the Govt. has just announced an increase, sorry modest increase in the lpfm power output. I missed just how modest. Does anyone know or heard it on the radio.

----- Original Message -----

From: Phil Grey

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:21 AM

Subject: RE: [LPFM]

I have tuned in, and contributed to, the announcement and talkback on Wellington Access Radio. Yes, an increase in LPFM power, but no mention by Cunliffe of what the new level will be. I expect to receive the hard copy shortly.

 

 

Phil Grey

General Manager

Community Radio Hamilton FM 106.7 / AM 1206

ddi 07 8342170   cell 021 710 705

www.communityradio.co.nz

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From: LPFM_Radio@... [mailto:LPFM_Radio@...] On Behalf Of DuffyFamily
Sent: Tuesday, 3 October 2006 10:12 a.m.
To: LPFM_Radio@...
Subject: [LPFM]

 

So the Govt. has just announced an increase, sorry modest increase in the lpfm power output. I missed just how modest. Does anyone know or heard it on the radio.

Here you go


Hon David Cunliffe

3/10/2006
Four new FM stations likely in each region
Government decisions announced today will provide for up to four new
FM radio stations in each region, and strengthen the role of local
broadcasters, say Broadcasting Minister Steve Maharey and
Communications Minister David Cunliffe.

The announcement follows a review of FM frequencies and approval of a
new policy framework to promote local broadcasting.

"The government is committed to supporting local broadcasters in
establishing stations that reflect the interests and diversity of
their community," Steve Maharey said. "In most regions there will be
two non-commercial licenses and two community-based commercial
licenses available."

David Cunliffe said the allocation arrangements underlined Labour's
commitment to broadcasting that reaches people across all New Zealand
communities

"The new arrangements will strengthen both commercial and
non-commercial local broadcasting," he said. "This announcement
carries through a pre-election commitment to make more frequencies
available throughout New Zealand."

"We expect to finalise allocation conditions by early next year.
Non-commercial licenses will then be allocated through an application
process and commercial licenses by auction."

Up to two licenses will generally be made available for local new
entrant commercial broadcasting and two for local non-commercial
broadcasting. Any further available licenses will be used for future
public broadcasting requirements, and unrestricted commercial
broadcasting.

Community broadcasting will also be enhanced through a modest increase
in power for users of Low Power FM Broadcasting. These users generally
serve local neighbourhoods and niche audiences.

Steve Maharey said the new policy framework would help to promote a
diverse range of content and formats in every community.

"It is important that local communities have access to new formats and
technologies as they become available so they continue to have a voice
on the airwaves. The new policy framework will ensure all government
decisions on broadcasting, for example on allocation of spectrum, take
local communities into account."












--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Phil Grey" <phil.grey@c...> wrote:
>
> I have tuned in, and contributed to, the announcement and talkback on
> Wellington Access Radio. Yes, an increase in LPFM power, but no
mention by
> Cunliffe of what the new level will be. I expect to receive the hard
copy
> shortly.
>
>
>
>
>
> Phil Grey
>
> General Manager
>
> Community Radio Hamilton FM 106.7 / AM 1206
>
> ddi 07 8342170   cell 021 710 705
>
> www.communityradio.co.nz
>
>   _____
>
> From: LPFM_Radio@...
[mailto:LPFM_Radio@...]
> On Behalf Of DuffyFamily
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 October 2006 10:12 a.m.
> To: LPFM_Radio@...
> Subject: [LPFM]
>
>
>
> So the Govt. has just announced an increase, sorry modest increase
in the
> lpfm power output. I missed just how modest. Does anyone know or
heard it on
> the radio.
>