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#5080 From: "Keith" <oldmill@...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:54 pm
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Re: Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM 		wantok.geo
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I made an original comment about coax length which was in relation to SWR,ie antenna matching and how good it was. The impedance of the antenna is repeated every 1/2 wavelength and if the SWR is high the length of the line can effect the SWR or match, presented to the transmitter if the coax happens to be other than a 1/2 wave multiple. If the SWR is low, then the coax length doesn't effect the match.
High SWR means high losses as well. Coax length effects the measured SWR as well which is why you should measure it as close to the antenna as possible.
K
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [LPFM] Re: Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM

you can up your TX power to overcome Coax loss
rem its the EIRP from Antenna that counts in the GURL  !!
so unless you have a very low power TX  I don't think coax loss
is really too important !
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:17 PM
Subject: [LPFM] Re: Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM

How so?

--- In LPFM_Radio@yahoogroups.com.au, Peter Winter <matrix1075fm@...>
wrote:
>
> Length of coax is crucial with LPFM!
> Best scenario is TX as close as possible to the aerial in
weatherproof shielded box.
>
> "wireless.radio" <happydayradio@...> wrote:

> Length of coax is irrelevant unless you are talking runs of 100 metres
> plus.
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#5079 From: "wireless.radio" <happydayradio@...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:46 am
Subject:: Re: Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM 		wireless.radio
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Quite true Steve, but I was curious to know why Peter made his
original comment.


--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Steve Jepson"
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>
> you can up your TX power to overcome Coax loss
> rem its the EIRP from Antenna that counts in the GURL  !!
> so unless you have a very low power TX  I don't think coax loss
> is really too important !
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: wireless.radio
>   To: LPFM_Radio@...
>   Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:17 PM
>   Subject: [LPFM] Re: Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM
>
>
>   How so?
>
>   --- In LPFM_Radio@..., Peter Winter <matrix1075fm@>
>   wrote:
>   >
>   > Length of coax is crucial with LPFM!
>   > Best scenario is TX as close as possible to the aerial in
>   weatherproof shielded box.
>   >
>   > "wireless.radio" <happydayradio@> wrote:
>
>   > Length of coax is irrelevant unless you are talking runs of 100
metres
>   > plus.
>   >
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#5078 From: "Steve Jepson" <steve.jepson@...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:28 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Re: Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM 		kiwihamsteve
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you can up your TX power to overcome Coax loss
rem its the EIRP from Antenna that counts in the GURL  !!
so unless you have a very low power TX  I don't think coax loss
is really too important !
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:17 PM
Subject: [LPFM] Re: Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM

How so?

--- In LPFM_Radio@yahoogroups.com.au, Peter Winter <matrix1075fm@...>
wrote:
>
> Length of coax is crucial with LPFM!
> Best scenario is TX as close as possible to the aerial in
weatherproof shielded box.
>
> "wireless.radio" <happydayradio@...> wrote:

> Length of coax is irrelevant unless you are talking runs of 100 metres
> plus.
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#5077 From: "wireless.radio" <happydayradio@...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:17 am
Subject:: Re: Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM 		wireless.radio
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How so?


--- In LPFM_Radio@..., Peter Winter <matrix1075fm@...>
wrote:
>
> Length of coax is crucial with LPFM!
> Best scenario is TX as close as possible to the aerial in
weatherproof shielded box.
>
> "wireless.radio" <happydayradio@...> wrote:

>  Length of coax is irrelevant unless you are talking runs of 100 metres
>  plus.
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#5076 From: Peter Winter <matrix1075fm@...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:41 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] 107.3 in Wellington 		matrix1075fm
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Hi Jamie,
can we get in touch before you move the TX to Mt Vic?
Just want to make sure that there won't be any issues.
If you want to get your gear checked before you go back on air,  I'd be more than happy to help you with it.
Cheers

Peter


Jamie Connor <jamie@...> wrote:
Just to let you all know, Fleet FM has temporarily stopped transmitting in Wellington. We will resume transmission next weekend from Mt. Victoria on 107.3. We are still getting live shows from Wellington but we have had to move studios and won't start up again till the 23rd.
Thanks,
Jamie


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#5075 From: Peter Winter <matrix1075fm@...>
Date: Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:13 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Re: Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM 		matrix1075fm
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Length of coax is crucial with LPFM!
Best scenario is TX as close as possible to the aerial in weatherproof shielded box.

"wireless.radio" <happydayradio@...> wrote:

Length of coax is irrelevant unless you are talking runs of 100 metres
plus.


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#5074 From: "Jamie Connor" <jamie@...>
Date: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:58 am
Subject:: 107.3 in Wellington 		jamie@...
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Just to let you all know, Fleet FM has temporarily stopped transmitting in Wellington. We will resume transmission next weekend from Mt. Victoria on 107.3. We are still getting live shows from Wellington but we have had to move studios and won't start up again till the 23rd.
Thanks,
Jamie


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#5073 From: "Steve Jepson" <steve.jepson@...>
Date: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:41 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Re: Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM 		kiwihamsteve
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Personally I prefer RFI or RFS  in stainless steel   but a bit of an overkill
for LPFM   !!  only needed in sites where high possibility of intermod exits  and  alloy corrosion is very high !!
 
Steve
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:47 AM
Subject: [LPFM] Re: Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM

Hi-Tec (Christchurch) antennas are the way to go, I install them in
commercial environments, repeater sites etc.
Spend the extra money and get a commercial series antenna with fitted
balun and a tail of around 30 metres of RG-8.
Length of coax is irrelevant unless you are talking runs of 100 metres
plus.

The two most important things in your system are the transmitter and
the antenna, everything else is secondary, so these are where the
money should be spent.
Nothing will let you down more however than a cheap antenna system.

With a commercial antenna you will not have to be spending time
adjusting it, maintaining it etc.

--- In LPFM_Radio@yahoogroups.com.au, "Steve Jepson"
<steve.jepson@...> wrote:
>
> Where are you located Callum ?
> then I can give you a few ideas
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Callum Thomas
> To: LPFM_Radio@yahoogroups.com.au
> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 5:46 PM
> Subject: [LPFM] Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM
>
>
> I'm in the market for a dipole antenna suitible for an LPFM station.
>
> I've had a few quotes - which all seem to be around the same
dollar mark - however I'm not sure how to choose. Are there particular
things that I should be asking about and comparing - materials,
technical specifications etc.
>
> It would be great to hear from anyone who's been down this path
before and could pass on a few quick words of wisdom.
>
> Thanks
> Callum
>


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#5072 From: "wireless.radio" <happydayradio@...>
Date: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:47 pm
Subject:: Re: Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM 		wireless.radio
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Hi-Tec (Christchurch) antennas are the way to go, I install them in
commercial environments, repeater sites etc.
Spend the extra money and get a commercial series antenna with fitted
balun and a tail of around 30 metres of RG-8.
Length of coax is irrelevant unless you are talking runs of 100 metres
plus.

The two most important things in your system are the transmitter and
the antenna, everything else is secondary, so these are where the
money should be spent.
Nothing will let you down more however than a cheap antenna system.

With a commercial antenna you will not have to be spending time
adjusting it, maintaining it etc.





--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Steve Jepson"
<steve.jepson@...> wrote:
>
> Where are you located Callum ?
> then I can give you a few ideas
>
> Steve
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Callum Thomas
>   To: LPFM_Radio@...
>   Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 5:46 PM
>   Subject: [LPFM] Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM
>
>
>   I'm in the market for a dipole antenna suitible for an LPFM station.
>
>   I've had a few quotes - which all seem to be around the same
dollar mark - however I'm not sure how to choose. Are there particular
things that I should be asking about and comparing - materials,
technical specifications etc.
>
>   It would be great to hear from anyone who's been down this path
before and could pass on a few quick words of wisdom.
>
>   Thanks
>   Callum
>

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#5071 From: "Keith" <oldmill@...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:11 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM 		wantok.geo
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The Hi-Tech dipole would be the one to go for. Tell them your frequency so they can tune it. The SWR has to be low, ie. the aerial has to be tuned. The coax is 50 ohm, and the best practical coax to use if the run is long is RG213. The dipole might come with 1/4in, coax fitted which is RG58. A short length of RG58 to connect to RG213 is ok. Use N connectors as they are weather proof as well and better quality.
 
The dipole should be mounted vertically and offset from the mast with a short length of pipe.
 
Get an SWR meter and check the standing waves as close to the antenna as possible for a more true reading. The coax should be a  multiple of a 1/2 wavelength long, but if the line is flat,(low SWR), then it won't matter.
 
KMCR
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Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [LPFM] Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM

I use RG213  and N connectors   loss is minimal in N connectors
Dipole I use is made by HiTech in Christchurch 
 
S
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [LPFM] Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM

The lower the standing wave ratio the better.
 
Some antenna's are a thinner aluminium dipole, others thicker and more stronger.
 
Try get one with a higher quality thicker coax fly lead than a thin coax lead. I'm getting slack, I've already forgotten the RG numbers in 50 ohm LPFM use, been trying to cram to much of the RG6 stuff and LMR numbers in lately.
 
If possible, get the coax length fitted to the antenna, to run back to the transmitter so there are no joins. More joins = more loss.
 
 
Gavin.
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 5:46 PM
Subject: [LPFM] Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM

I'm in the market for a dipole antenna suitible for an LPFM station.

I've had a few quotes - which all seem to be around the same dollar mark - however I'm not sure how to choose. Are there particular things that I should be asking about and comparing - materials, technical specifications etc.

It would be great to hear from anyone who's been down this path before and could pass on a few quick words of wisdom.

Thanks
Callum

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#5070 From: "Steve Jepson" <steve.jepson@...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:36 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM 		kiwihamsteve
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I use RG213  and N connectors   loss is minimal in N connectors
Dipole I use is made by HiTech in Christchurch 
 
S
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [LPFM] Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM

The lower the standing wave ratio the better.
 
Some antenna's are a thinner aluminium dipole, others thicker and more stronger.
 
Try get one with a higher quality thicker coax fly lead than a thin coax lead. I'm getting slack, I've already forgotten the RG numbers in 50 ohm LPFM use, been trying to cram to much of the RG6 stuff and LMR numbers in lately.
 
If possible, get the coax length fitted to the antenna, to run back to the transmitter so there are no joins. More joins = more loss.
 
 
Gavin.
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 5:46 PM
Subject: [LPFM] Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM

I'm in the market for a dipole antenna suitible for an LPFM station.

I've had a few quotes - which all seem to be around the same dollar mark - however I'm not sure how to choose. Are there particular things that I should be asking about and comparing - materials, technical specifications etc.

It would be great to hear from anyone who's been down this path before and could pass on a few quick words of wisdom.

Thanks
Callum


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#5069 From: "Gavin Stephens" <gstephens@...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:14 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM 		kiwi_rock_24
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The lower the standing wave ratio the better.
 
Some antenna's are a thinner aluminium dipole, others thicker and more stronger.
 
Try get one with a higher quality thicker coax fly lead than a thin coax lead. I'm getting slack, I've already forgotten the RG numbers in 50 ohm LPFM use, been trying to cram to much of the RG6 stuff and LMR numbers in lately.
 
If possible, get the coax length fitted to the antenna, to run back to the transmitter so there are no joins. More joins = more loss.
 
 
Gavin.
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 5:46 PM
Subject: [LPFM] Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM

I'm in the market for a dipole antenna suitible for an LPFM station.

I've had a few quotes - which all seem to be around the same dollar mark - however I'm not sure how to choose. Are there particular things that I should be asking about and comparing - materials, technical specifications etc.

It would be great to hear from anyone who's been down this path before and could pass on a few quick words of wisdom.

Thanks
Callum


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#5068 From: "Steve Jepson" <steve.jepson@...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:05 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM 		kiwihamsteve
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Callum
 
Depending how much you want to spend and quality etc   also Try
Strongline in Lower Hutt   and LincRad   ,  I think they are in Christchurch
the other suggestion is check on Trade Me   they often appear for sale
 
Steve
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 5:46 PM
Subject: [LPFM] Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM

I'm in the market for a dipole antenna suitible for an LPFM station.

I've had a few quotes - which all seem to be around the same dollar mark - however I'm not sure how to choose. Are there particular things that I should be asking about and comparing - materials, technical specifications etc.

It would be great to hear from anyone who's been down this path before and could pass on a few quick words of wisdom.

Thanks
Callum


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#5067 From: "Steve Jepson" <steve.jepson@...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:51 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM 		kiwihamsteve
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Where are you located Callum ?
then I can give you a few ideas

Steve
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 5:46 PM
Subject: [LPFM] Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM

I'm in the market for a dipole antenna suitible for an LPFM station.

I've had a few quotes - which all seem to be around the same dollar mark - however I'm not sure how to choose. Are there particular things that I should be asking about and comparing - materials, technical specifications etc.

It would be great to hear from anyone who's been down this path before and could pass on a few quick words of wisdom.

Thanks
Callum


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#5066 From: "Callum Thomas" <callumthomas@...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:46 am
Subject:: Purchasing dipole antenna for LPFM 		callumthomas@...
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I'm in the market for a dipole antenna suitible for an LPFM station.

I've had a few quotes - which all seem to be around the same dollar mark - however I'm not sure how to choose. Are there particular things that I should be asking about and comparing - materials, technical specifications etc.

It would be great to hear from anyone who's been down this path before and could pass on a few quick words of wisdom.

Thanks
Callum

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#5065 From: "ceejay7777" <ceejay7777@...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2007 12:37 am
Subject:: Re: Digital voice recorder 		ceejay7777
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Zoom H4. http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/products/h4/

--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "philip_crookes" <philip@...> wrote:
>
> What are people using to gather news and OB material? I need a small
> pocket audio recorder (DVR). preferably one that can accept a plug-in
> mic, and has a display I can read in bright sunlight.
>
> All suggestions (with NZ source where possible) will be welcome.
>
> Philip
> Primetime Radio 1ZZ
> Bay of Islands
>
> (who here now remembers the L2Bs and Uhers of the past, with their
> shoulder straps and battery bags - and the mike like a blunt intrument?)
>

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#5064 From: "Ross Levis" <ross@...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2007 7:20 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Digital voice recorder 		rosslevis
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I purchased a Sony MiniDisc several years ago and it's very good and compact.  Fits in my shirt pocket  The old one I have requires an external mic and it sounds excellent, but I'm not sure about reading the LCD display in bright sunshine.
 
Ross.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:33 PM
Subject: [LPFM] Digital voice recorder

What are people using to gather news and OB material? I need a small
pocket audio recorder (DVR). preferably one that can accept a plug-in
mic, and has a display I can read in bright sunlight.

All suggestions (with NZ source where possible) will be welcome.

Philip
Primetime Radio 1ZZ
Bay of Islands

(who here now remembers the L2Bs and Uhers of the past, with their
shoulder straps and battery bags - and the mike like a blunt intrument?)

.


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#5063 From: Brian Gallagher <brianislay@...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2007 6:56 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Digital voice recorder 		brianislay
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I still have an L2b and a Uher report 4000

philip_crookes <philip@...> wrote:
What are people using to gather news and OB material? I need a small
pocket audio recorder (DVR). preferably one that can accept a plug-in
mic, and has a display I can read in bright sunlight.

All suggestions (with NZ source where possible) will be welcome.

Philip
Primetime Radio 1ZZ
Bay of Islands

(who here now remembers the L2Bs and Uhers of the past, with their
shoulder straps and battery bags - and the mike like a blunt intrument?)


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#5062 From: Ethan L <Kead@...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2007 4:48 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Digital voice recorder 		ethannz2003
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Olympus Voice recorders are the way to go. I got a digital one for
atleast half the price that it would have cost to buy it here in nz on
ebay. Buy it on Ebay.

I got the ws-300m model and it works like a dream

Ethan

philip_crookes wrote:
> What are people using to gather news and OB material? I need a small
> pocket audio recorder (DVR). preferably one that can accept a plug-in
> mic, and has a display I can read in bright sunlight.
>
> All suggestions (with NZ source where possible) will be welcome.
>
> Philip
> Primetime Radio 1ZZ
> Bay of Islands
>
> (who here now remembers the L2Bs and Uhers of the past, with their
> shoulder straps and battery bags - and the mike like a blunt intrument?
>
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#5061 From: "philip_crookes" <philip@...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2007 4:33 am
Subject:: Digital voice recorder 		philip_crookes
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What are people using to gather news and OB material? I need a small
pocket audio recorder (DVR). preferably one that can accept a plug-in
mic, and has a display I can read in bright sunlight.

All suggestions (with NZ source where possible) will be welcome.

Philip
Primetime Radio 1ZZ
Bay of Islands

(who here now remembers the L2Bs and Uhers of the past, with their
shoulder straps and battery bags - and the mike like a blunt intrument?)

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#5060 From: "wireless.radio" <happydayradio@...>
Date: Sat Feb 3, 2007 10:17 pm
Subject:: [LPFM] Re: Over Modulation 		wireless.radio
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I'm an hour south of Auckland. Close enough for convenience, far
enough to be out of the noise and congestion!

I think $100 would be reasonable, for an hour of my time and a bit
towards the use of the equipment.
Oh, and cover my travel cost as well. :) As much as I'd like to do it
for nothing, fuel isn't cheap as everyone probably knows.

If there was a group of people in one area you could split the travel
cost.

At least it's something you'd really on need done once (unless you
make major changes to your setup).


--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Groove 107.7FM" <dean.c@...> wrote:
>
> Where is the RF doctor based???
>
> Dean
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: wireless.radio
>   To: LPFM_Radio@...
>   Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 2:41 AM
>   Subject: [Polesoft Antispam][Polesoft Antispam][LPFM] Re: Over
Modulation
>
>
>   Yes, it's 6RU high, and almost as deep.
>
>   In terms of monitoring, it's the best you can get in its class.
>   I've invested a substantial amount of money in this, and whilst I'm
>   not looking at making a profit with it, I need to try to cover costs,
>   so I have been thinking if people are prepared to pay a nominal fee, I
>   will bring it around, along with a Bird wattmeter, so you can see how
>   much power you are sending up the coax and what your mod levels are
>   like - and adjust them if need be.
>
>   "The RF doctor does house calls" :D
>
>   What do you think?
>
>   --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "grantthoms" <studio@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Wow, that's one big unit!
>   >
>   > I would certainly be interested, once you come up with a loaner
>   > solution, to borrow the unit to check I am within spec.
>   >
>   > Regards,
>   > Grant
>   >
>   > P.S I've created a new photo album for press clippings. Would be
>   > interested in seeing other LPFM stations who have been in the news.
>   >
>   > --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "wireless.radio"
>   > <happydayradio@> wrote:
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > Excessive over-mod will splatter any adjacent frequency with ease.
>   > > Receiver selectivity (more-so lack of it) means that 88.2 is
within
>   > > the "capture" window of 88.3.
>   > >
>   > > I have a rough idea of where Fleet transmit from, and it's a
>   > > reasonable elevation in the scheme of things. This is going to
cause
>   > > problems with anyone transmitting at a lower elevation on an
adjacent
>   > > frequency, whether Fleet are over-modulating or not.
>   > >
>   > > Mod levels are the responsibility of each and every operator,
and I
>   > > totally agree that there needs to be some resolve in sorting
out the
>   > > over-mod issue.
>   > >
>   > > There are a great many people who feel that radio is a toy and
that
>   > > "getting on the air" is a game to be taken lightly.
>   > >
>   > > Far from it. We are fortunate to have the use of parts of the
already
>   > > overcrowded FM spectrum, at little or no cost, and every
effort needs
>   > > to be taken to ensure that we are able to continue to use this.
>   > >
>   > > I have recently invested in a QEI FM modulation monitor (see
photos
>   > > section) and I've been thinking about how this could be used
for the
>   > > benefit of everyone who is on the air.
>   > >
>   > > If I come up with a plan I'll let you know.
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "bay107fm" <bay107fm@>
wrote:
>   > > >
>   > > > I have seen a lot of comment about the above subject. LPFM's
>   (and I'm
>   > > > one) need to take reponsibility to ensure that this issue is
>   sorted.
>   > > > How the RSM has not moved on a number of operators I'm not
sure?
>   > > >
>   > > > This morning I heard splatter from Fleet FM on 88.2FM. The
>   > interesting
>   > > > thing is that Fleet broadcast on 88.3FM and the splatter was in
>   > Esmond
>   > > > Road, Takapuna with Fleet operating from the Central City. A
>   distance
>   > > > of about 5km?
>   > > >
>   > > > When listening on 88.3FM the output was so over the top it was
>   hardly
>   > > > audible.
>   > > >
>   > > > This will only lead to other stations increasing
>   modulation/power to
>   > > > override this splatter and then the RSM will be over everybody.
>   > > >
>   > > > It's an issue needing some resolution!
>   > > >
>   > > > John
>   > > > BayFM and The Flea
>   > > >
>   > >
>   >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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#5059 From: "grantthoms" <studio@...>
Date: Sat Feb 3, 2007 11:07 am
Subject:: Re: Over Modulation 		grantthoms
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Sounds good. I guess it comes down to where in NZ you are located and
what the cost would be.

Cheers,
Grant


--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "wireless.radio"
<happydayradio@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, it's 6RU high, and almost as deep.
>
> In terms of monitoring, it's the best you can get in its class.
> I've invested a substantial amount of money in this, and whilst I'm
> not looking at making a profit with it, I need to try to cover costs,
> so I have been thinking if people are prepared to pay a nominal fee, I
> will bring it around, along with a Bird wattmeter, so you can see how
> much power you are sending up the coax and what your mod levels are
> like - and adjust them if need be.
>
> "The RF doctor does house calls" :D
>
> What do you think?
>
>
>

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#5058 From: "Groove 107.7FM" <dean.c@...>
Date: Sat Feb 3, 2007 2:43 am
Subject:: [LPFM] Re: Over Modulation 		groove_crew
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Where is the RF doctor based???
 
Dean
 
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Yes, it's 6RU high, and almost as deep.

In terms of monitoring, it's the best you can get in its class.
I've invested a substantial amount of money in this, and whilst I'm
not looking at making a profit with it, I need to try to cover costs,
so I have been thinking if people are prepared to pay a nominal fee, I
will bring it around, along with a Bird wattmeter, so you can see how
much power you are sending up the coax and what your mod levels are
like - and adjust them if need be.

"The RF doctor does house calls" :D

What do you think?

--- In LPFM_Radio@yahoogroups.com.au, "grantthoms" <studio@...> wrote:
>
> Wow, that's one big unit!
>
> I would certainly be interested, once you come up with a loaner
> solution, to borrow the unit to check I am within spec.
>
> Regards,
> Grant
>
> P.S I've created a new photo album for press clippings. Would be
> interested in seeing other LPFM stations who have been in the news.
>
> --- In LPFM_Radio@yahoogroups.com.au, "wireless.radio"
> <happydayradio@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Excessive over-mod will splatter any adjacent frequency with ease.
> > Receiver selectivity (more-so lack of it) means that 88.2 is within
> > the "capture" window of 88.3.
> >
> > I have a rough idea of where Fleet transmit from, and it's a
> > reasonable elevation in the scheme of things. This is going to cause
> > problems with anyone transmitting at a lower elevation on an adjacent
> > frequency, whether Fleet are over-modulating or not.
> >
> > Mod levels are the responsibility of each and every operator, and I
> > totally agree that there needs to be some resolve in sorting out the
> > over-mod issue.
> >
> > There are a great many people who feel that radio is a toy and that
> > "getting on the air" is a game to be taken lightly.
> >
> > Far from it. We are fortunate to have the use of parts of the already
> > overcrowded FM spectrum, at little or no cost, and every effort needs
> > to be taken to ensure that we are able to continue to use this.
> >
> > I have recently invested in a QEI FM modulation monitor (see photos
> > section) and I've been thinking about how this could be used for the
> > benefit of everyone who is on the air.
> >
> > If I come up with a plan I'll let you know.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In LPFM_Radio@yahoogroups.com.au, "bay107fm" <bay107fm@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have seen a lot of comment about the above subject. LPFM's
(and I'm
> > > one) need to take reponsibility to ensure that this issue is
sorted.
> > > How the RSM has not moved on a number of operators I'm not sure?
> > >
> > > This morning I heard splatter from Fleet FM on 88.2FM. The
> interesting
> > > thing is that Fleet broadcast on 88.3FM and the splatter was in
> Esmond
> > > Road, Takapuna with Fleet operating from the Central City. A
distance
> > > of about 5km?
> > >
> > > When listening on 88.3FM the output was so over the top it was
hardly
> > > audible.
> > >
> > > This will only lead to other stations increasing
modulation/power to
> > > override this splatter and then the RSM will be over everybody.
> > >
> > > It's an issue needing some resolution!
> > >
> > > John
> > > BayFM and The Flea
> > >
> >
>

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#5055 From: "wireless.radio" <happydayradio@...>
Date: Fri Feb 2, 2007 1:41 pm
Subject:: Re: Over Modulation 		wireless.radio
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Yes, it's 6RU high, and almost as deep.

In terms of monitoring, it's the best you can get in its class.
I've invested a substantial amount of money in this, and whilst I'm
not looking at making a profit with it, I need to try to cover costs,
so I have been thinking if people are prepared to pay a nominal fee, I
will bring it around, along with a Bird wattmeter, so you can see how
much power you are sending up the coax and what your mod levels are
like - and adjust them if need be.

"The RF doctor does house calls" :D

What do you think?



--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "grantthoms" <studio@...> wrote:
>
> Wow, that's one big unit!
>
> I would certainly be interested, once you come up with a loaner
> solution, to borrow the unit to check I am within spec.
>
> Regards,
> Grant
>
> P.S  I've created a new photo album for press clippings.  Would be
> interested in seeing other LPFM stations who have been in the news.
>
> --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "wireless.radio"
> <happydayradio@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Excessive over-mod will splatter any adjacent frequency with ease.
> > Receiver selectivity (more-so lack of it) means that 88.2 is within
> > the "capture" window of 88.3.
> >
> > I have a rough idea of where Fleet transmit from, and it's a
> > reasonable elevation in the scheme of things. This is going to cause
> > problems with anyone transmitting at a lower elevation on an adjacent
> > frequency, whether Fleet are over-modulating or not.
> >
> > Mod levels are the responsibility of each and every operator, and I
> > totally agree that there needs to be some resolve in sorting out the
> > over-mod issue.
> >
> > There are a great many people who feel that radio is a toy and that
> > "getting on the air" is a game to be taken lightly.
> >
> > Far from it. We are fortunate to have the use of parts of the already
> > overcrowded FM spectrum, at little or no cost, and every effort needs
> > to be taken to ensure that we are able to continue to use this.
> >
> > I have recently invested in a QEI FM modulation monitor (see photos
> > section) and I've been thinking about how this could be used for the
> > benefit of everyone who is on the air.
> >
> > If I come up with a plan I'll let you know.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "bay107fm" <bay107fm@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have seen a lot of comment about the above subject. LPFM's
(and I'm
> > > one) need to take reponsibility to ensure that this issue is
sorted.
> > > How the RSM has not moved on a number of operators I'm not sure?
> > >
> > > This morning I heard splatter from Fleet FM on 88.2FM. The
> interesting
> > > thing is that Fleet broadcast on 88.3FM and the splatter was in
> Esmond
> > > Road, Takapuna with Fleet operating from the Central City. A
distance
> > > of about 5km?
> > >
> > > When listening on 88.3FM the output was so over the top it was
hardly
> > > audible.
> > >
> > > This will only lead to other stations increasing
modulation/power to
> > > override this splatter and then the RSM will be over everybody.
> > >
> > > It's an issue needing some resolution!
> > >
> > > John
> > > BayFM and The Flea
> > >
> >
>

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#5054 From: "grantthoms" <studio@...>
Date: Fri Feb 2, 2007 11:04 am
Subject:: Re: Over Modulation 		grantthoms
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Wow, that's one big unit!

I would certainly be interested, once you come up with a loaner
solution, to borrow the unit to check I am within spec.

Regards,
Grant

P.S  I've created a new photo album for press clippings.  Would be
interested in seeing other LPFM stations who have been in the news.

--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "wireless.radio"
<happydayradio@...> wrote:
>
>
> Excessive over-mod will splatter any adjacent frequency with ease.
> Receiver selectivity (more-so lack of it) means that 88.2 is within
> the "capture" window of 88.3.
>
> I have a rough idea of where Fleet transmit from, and it's a
> reasonable elevation in the scheme of things. This is going to cause
> problems with anyone transmitting at a lower elevation on an adjacent
> frequency, whether Fleet are over-modulating or not.
>
> Mod levels are the responsibility of each and every operator, and I
> totally agree that there needs to be some resolve in sorting out the
> over-mod issue.
>
> There are a great many people who feel that radio is a toy and that
> "getting on the air" is a game to be taken lightly.
>
> Far from it. We are fortunate to have the use of parts of the already
> overcrowded FM spectrum, at little or no cost, and every effort needs
> to be taken to ensure that we are able to continue to use this.
>
> I have recently invested in a QEI FM modulation monitor (see photos
> section) and I've been thinking about how this could be used for the
> benefit of everyone who is on the air.
>
> If I come up with a plan I'll let you know.
>
>
>
>
> --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "bay107fm" <bay107fm@> wrote:
> >
> > I have seen a lot of comment about the above subject. LPFM's (and I'm
> > one) need to take reponsibility to ensure that this issue is sorted.
> > How the RSM has not moved on a number of operators I'm not sure?
> >
> > This morning I heard splatter from Fleet FM on 88.2FM. The
interesting
> > thing is that Fleet broadcast on 88.3FM and the splatter was in
Esmond
> > Road, Takapuna with Fleet operating from the Central City. A distance
> > of about 5km?
> >
> > When listening on 88.3FM the output was so over the top it was hardly
> > audible.
> >
> > This will only lead to other stations increasing modulation/power to
> > override this splatter and then the RSM will be over everybody.
> >
> > It's an issue needing some resolution!
> >
> > John
> > BayFM and The Flea
> >
>

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#5053 From: Brian Gallagher <brianislay@...>
Date: Fri Feb 2, 2007 6:55 am
Subject:: Suppliers of studio gear. 		brianislay
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Hello Gavin and Steve and Steve and Ethan and Kathy and Paul.
Thanks for replying to my call for info on studio gear suppliers.
This has all been helpful and I am putting together my wishlist from the information.
Brian

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#5052 From: Kathy and Paul <kathpaul@...>
Date: Thu Feb 1, 2007 7:28 pm
Subject:: Sources of new equipment 		zl3tx
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Elan has a range of broadcast products. Have installed several of their
desks with no problems.Quick service and good prices and  just accross
the ditch.
http://elan.com.au/

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#5051 From: "wireless.radio" <happydayradio@...>
Date: Thu Feb 1, 2007 10:16 am
Subject:: Re: Over Modulation 		wireless.radio
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Excessive over-mod will splatter any adjacent frequency with ease.
Receiver selectivity (more-so lack of it) means that 88.2 is within
the "capture" window of 88.3.

I have a rough idea of where Fleet transmit from, and it's a
reasonable elevation in the scheme of things. This is going to cause
problems with anyone transmitting at a lower elevation on an adjacent
frequency, whether Fleet are over-modulating or not.

Mod levels are the responsibility of each and every operator, and I
totally agree that there needs to be some resolve in sorting out the
over-mod issue.

There are a great many people who feel that radio is a toy and that
"getting on the air" is a game to be taken lightly.

Far from it. We are fortunate to have the use of parts of the already
overcrowded FM spectrum, at little or no cost, and every effort needs
to be taken to ensure that we are able to continue to use this.

I have recently invested in a QEI FM modulation monitor (see photos
section) and I've been thinking about how this could be used for the
benefit of everyone who is on the air.

If I come up with a plan I'll let you know.




--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "bay107fm" <bay107fm@...> wrote:
>
> I have seen a lot of comment about the above subject. LPFM's (and I'm
> one) need to take reponsibility to ensure that this issue is sorted.
> How the RSM has not moved on a number of operators I'm not sure?
>
> This morning I heard splatter from Fleet FM on 88.2FM. The interesting
> thing is that Fleet broadcast on 88.3FM and the splatter was in Esmond
> Road, Takapuna with Fleet operating from the Central City. A distance
> of about 5km?
>
> When listening on 88.3FM the output was so over the top it was hardly
> audible.
>
> This will only lead to other stations increasing modulation/power to
> override this splatter and then the RSM will be over everybody.
>
> It's an issue needing some resolution!
>
> John
> BayFM and The Flea
>

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#5050 From: "bay107fm" <bay107fm@...>
Date: Thu Feb 1, 2007 9:31 am
Subject:: Over Modulation 		bay107fm
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I have seen a lot of comment about the above subject. LPFM's (and I'm
one) need to take reponsibility to ensure that this issue is sorted.
How the RSM has not moved on a number of operators I'm not sure?

This morning I heard splatter from Fleet FM on 88.2FM. The interesting
thing is that Fleet broadcast on 88.3FM and the splatter was in Esmond
Road, Takapuna with Fleet operating from the Central City. A distance
of about 5km?

When listening on 88.3FM the output was so over the top it was hardly
audible.

This will only lead to other stations increasing modulation/power to
override this splatter and then the RSM will be over everybody.

It's an issue needing some resolution!

John
BayFM and The Flea

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#5049 From: Steve Boyd <steveboyd@...>
Date: Thu Feb 1, 2007 7:15 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Sources of new equipment 		nzsmee
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if you buy from globalmediapro and it breaks down, dont expect them to fix it. they wont be interested
 
 
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From: Ethan L
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [LPFM] Sources of new equipment

If you looking for basic mixers, check out global media pro www.globalmediapro.com/

Steve Jepson wrote:

Also have a Look at Bridge  in Wellington
 
 



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