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#5155 From: "wireless.radio" <happydayradio@...>
Date: Sun Apr 1, 2007 10:09 am
Subject:: Re: LPFM 15kHz low pass audio filters
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Hi Michael,

Buzz Audio of Wellington have a ready-to-go filter board, just what
you need. Take a look here >> http://www.buzzaudio.co.nz/oemprod.htm

The BE74 is what you need. Easier and cheaper IMO to go with one of
these - added bonus, comes with a pre-emphasis network.

Cheers.



--- In LPFM_Radio@..., Michael Hallager <michael@...>
wrote:
>
> Thanks for your reply Stu.
>
> I'm looking at building a 15KHz low pass filter myself (Weighting up
between
> that and a software based solution though these seem to lack a 15kHz
filter)
>
> I'm confused. My research indicates that there are several different
types of
> filters (Chebyshev, Butterworth, Bessel.... ?) and different
'orders' as
> they're called.
>
> What is suited for the purpose and does anyone have a design?
>
> I would like to build an active design based on 741 op amps and a
few passive
> components.
>
> I have already sourced a design off the web but it is a circuit
only, with
> limited information, and specifies values such as 470pF "styr"
capacitors.
> Has anyone ever seen a 470pF Polyester? Because I haven't and the
Jaycar
> catalogue doesn't list anything below 10nF (0.001uF) for any
Polyester type
> capacitor.
> So I have little confidence in this design and the last thing I want
to do is
> spend time and money getting parts to build any questionable design.
>
> What I'm after is something of a known quantity / quality.
>
> Michael Hallager
> net trust ltd
> www.networkstuff.co.nz p.09 839-1000
>

#5154 From: "Michael Rowse" <mike@...>
Date: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:42 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Linux software to run an LPFM station
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Hi Michael, Have you had a look at Rivendell? http://www.rivendellaudio.org/ I haven't used it myself, but looks like it may do the business.
 
Cheers, Mike
 
 
On 31/03/2007 10:03:34 a.m., Michael Hallager (michael@...) wrote:
> I'm considering doing my audio processing (15kHz low pass filter, limit,
> compress etc) with a computer because on the face of it this looks like a
> better deal.
>
> Does anyone know of any good Linux softwatre to do this?
>
> Failing that, can anyone recommend DJ / scheduling / playlist management
> software (Linux)?
>
> I have already done some research etc - I am only interested in knowing what
> LINUX software that people have sucessfully run for this task.
>
> Michael Hallager
> net trust ltd
> www.networkstuff.co.nz p.09 839-1000
>
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#5153 From: "Keith" <oldmill@...>
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:27 pm
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] LPFM 15kHz low pass audio filters
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470pF styr capacitors, means polystyrene, so why are you looking for polyester.
Styrene are more stable and used in oscillator, filter circuits, etc where tolerance
 and stability are important.
Try Farnell.
Keith

Thanks for your repl

 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:16 AM
Subject: [LPFM] LPFM 15kHz low pass audio filters
y Stu.

I'm looking at building a 15KHz low pass filter myself (Weighting up between
that and a software based solution though these seem to lack a 15kHz filter)

I'm confused. My research indicates that there are several different types of
filters (Chebyshev, Butterworth, Bessel.... ?) and different 'orders' as
they're called.

What is suited for the purpose and does anyone have a design?

I would like to build an active design based on 741 op amps and a few passive
components.

I have already sourced a design off the web but it is a circuit only, with
limited information, and specifies values such as 470pF "styr" capacitors.
Has anyone ever seen a 470pF Polyester? Because I haven't and the Jaycar
catalogue doesn't list anything below 10nF (0.001uF) for any Polyester type
capacitor.
So I have little confidence in this design and the last thing I want to do is
spend time and money getting parts to build any questionable design.

What I'm after is something of a known quantity / quality.

Michael Hallager
net trust ltd
www.networkstuff.co.nz p.09 839-1000


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#5152 From: Geoff Barkman <barknet@...>
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:27 pm
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Linux software to run an LPFM station
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Hi Michael
Linux DJ solutions I found a few but have yet to try them out.

BeatForce computer dj-ing system
http://www.beatforce.org/

Mixxx is an open source DJ tool designed for both professional and
amateur DJs alike.
http://mixxx.sourceforge.net/

Funkyou - dj equipment for the future
http://sourceforge.net/projects/funkyou/

These all seem to me linux software solutions but I haven't tried them out.

I have done experiments with xmms but have been disappointed with the
crossfading option. It seems to only be able to crossfade at a
particular number of seconds from the end of songs. So a station ID, say
2 or 3 seconds long doesn't get heard in full. I once wrote to the guy
who wrote the xmms fader and asked him if it was possible to build in a
feature that sences the music level droping to a certain db value and
then fading (like sqr soft for winamp) but he told me he was quite busy
and thought it was a cool feature but wasn't able to put time in to
modify it. (Thats the great thing about open source stuff... you get
personal email replies...not replies from someone hiding behind a
corporate banner.)

Shoutcast servers for linux....  are brilliant... and I use the darkice
live stream encoder to create a stream from a line out signal off the
mixer/desk.

Audio processing. Everyone still laughs at me but I use an old VHS video
to process my sound. It is one of those old stereo vhs videos that has
the 5 pin din plug on the back and the Aux/TV switch to change from line
in to tv etc. It is a stereo video because you could use it to take the
sound off a stereo radio to record programs like radio with pictures
before the days of Nicam stereo tv.



Michael Hallager wrote:
>
> I'm considering doing my audio processing (15kHz low pass filter, limit,
> compress etc) with a computer because on the face of it this looks like a
> better deal.
>
> Does anyone know of any good Linux softwatre to do this?
>
> Failing that, can anyone recommend DJ / scheduling / playlist management
> software (Linux)?
>
> I have already done some research etc - I am only interested in
> knowing what
> LINUX software that people have sucessfully run for this task.
>
> Michael Hallager
> net trust ltd
> www.networkstuff.co.nz p.09 839-1000
>
>

#5151 From: "Gavin Stephens" <gstephens@...>
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:40 pm
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] LPFM 15kHz low pass audio filters
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Just my one cent worth...
 
I don't know if anything exsists for Linux for what you want, since I don't use it,  however if you go down the digital path, make sure you use something capable of utilising a 24-bit sound card. I might go study up on Linux as it would be a good alternative for a standalone audio processor.
 
16-bit is very low resolution these days for final audio processing as far as low pass filtering goes. It can rob you of up to 3dB of modulation because of the way the digital to analogue converters have to assume what the peaks of the audio look like between samples. This is also true of 24-bit, but the resolution is far more accurate/precise.
 
For others interested in Windows stuff, a lot of the old MBL4 audio processing is free from the UK now, www.burnill.co.uk. I know I've mentioned this before, but there maybe new comers interested. Sonos II in particular, works with 24-bit sound cards on the ASIO driver level (less latency) and can produce a final pre-emphasised MPX stereo signal with 15KHz low pass filtering and overshot compensated limiting etc.. all processed using tidy multiband compression/limiting/pre-emphasis limiting etc... If you disable any pre-emphasis in your transmitter and disable any futher 15KHz low pass filter to avoid problems with group delay, you can get the maximum out of your transmitters available 500mW power.
 
Cheers,
Gavin.
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:16 AM
Subject: [LPFM] LPFM 15kHz low pass audio filters

Thanks for your reply Stu.

I'm looking at building a 15KHz low pass filter myself (Weighting up between
that and a software based solution though these seem to lack a 15kHz filter)

I'm confused. My research indicates that there are several different types of
filters (Chebyshev, Butterworth, Bessel.... ?) and different 'orders' as
they're called.

What is suited for the purpose and does anyone have a design?

I would like to build an active design based on 741 op amps and a few passive
components.

I have already sourced a design off the web but it is a circuit only, with
limited information, and specifies values such as 470pF "styr" capacitors.
Has anyone ever seen a 470pF Polyester? Because I haven't and the Jaycar
catalogue doesn't list anything below 10nF (0.001uF) for any Polyester type
capacitor.
So I have little confidence in this design and the last thing I want to do is
spend time and money getting parts to build any questionable design.

What I'm after is something of a known quantity / quality.

Michael Hallager
net trust ltd
www.networkstuff.co.nz p.09 839-1000


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#5150 From: Michael Hallager <michael@...>
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:16 pm
Subject:: LPFM 15kHz low pass audio filters
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Thanks for your reply Stu.

I'm looking at building a 15KHz low pass filter myself (Weighting up between
that and a software based solution though these seem to lack a 15kHz filter)

I'm confused. My research indicates that there are several different types of
filters (Chebyshev, Butterworth, Bessel.... ?) and different 'orders' as
they're called.

What is suited for the purpose and does anyone have a design?

I would like to build an active design based on 741 op amps and a few passive
components.

I have already sourced a design off the web but it is a circuit only, with
limited information, and specifies values such as 470pF "styr" capacitors.
Has anyone ever seen a 470pF Polyester? Because I haven't and the Jaycar
catalogue doesn't list anything below 10nF (0.001uF) for any Polyester type
capacitor.
So I have little confidence in this design and the last thing I want to do is
spend time and money getting parts to build any questionable design.

What I'm after is something of a known quantity / quality.

Michael Hallager
net trust ltd
www.networkstuff.co.nz p.09 839-1000

#5149 From: Michael Hallager <michael@...>
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:03 pm
Subject:: Linux software to run an LPFM station
michael@...
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I'm considering doing my audio processing (15kHz low pass filter, limit,
compress etc) with a computer because on the face of it this looks like a
better deal.

Does anyone know of any good Linux softwatre to do this?

Failing that, can anyone recommend DJ / scheduling / playlist management
software (Linux)?

I have already done some research etc - I am only interested in knowing what
LINUX software that people have sucessfully run for this task.

Michael Hallager
net trust ltd
www.networkstuff.co.nz p.09 839-1000

#5148 From: "wireless.radio" <happydayradio@...>
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:53 pm
Subject:: Re: New member introduction
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Hi Michael,

Welcome to the LPFM forum.

Last question first - the last I heard regarding the 1W amendment is
that they are still "considering the technical aspects of such a move".
RSM don't move in too much of a hurry (unless you are a commercial
station paying millions for your licence) so don't expect any
startling revelations too soon.

For now, aim to run with the current EIRP.

I'm a freelance broadcast engineer, so if you need any advice be sure
to ask. Either I or someone in the forum will be here to provide some
assistance or suggestion.

Cheers,

Stu.

--- In LPFM_Radio@..., Michael Hallager <michael@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello all-
>
> I'm Michael, a new member to this list.
>
> I'm currently in the process of setting up my LPFM station in the
Henderson
> area of West Auckland.
>
> I was originally introduced to LPFM by Tony (When The Mulcher was
broadcasting
> in Blockhouse Bay, Auckland) and I recntly decided to make good on
one of
> this years resolutions. :-)
> Peter Shaw kindly invited me to the exec meeting last week so I had
a chance
> to meet a few of you.
>
> My new station will be a cross between Indy media and the old Radio
Liberty
> (Was broadcasting for a couple of years during the 90's) though it
will be a
> lot more NZ-centric then Radio Liberty was, which I think was
unfortunitely a
> mistake of theirs.
> It will span from contemporary music to political and social
commentary from
> liberal, non-establishment aligned commentators.
>
> My transmitter will be one based on a TX180A, a 1W PLL FM modulator
made by an
> Israeli company called Tugicom. Arik of Tugicom was concise, direct and
> helpful in answering my few questions about their product and it was
on this
> basis I opted for their product in favour of the more common UK sourced
> designs, which quite frankly are made by companies who's attitude to
service
> leaves something to be desired imho.
> I will be making the neccessary modifications to bring the RF output
of this
> transmitter into line with the current GURL.
>
> Can someone please advise me on the *official* status of the
suggested 1W EIRP
> GURL ammendment?
>
> My background in radio includes obtaining my radio amateurs license
several
> years ago when I was of school age, and a few years ago - my VHF marine
> license as well.
>
> I look forward to being involved with and contributing to LPFM in NZ.
>
> If anyone ever needs to contact me for any reason my phone numbers
are (09)
> 839-1000 and 021 963-878.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Michael Hallager
> net trust ltd
> www.networkstuff.co.nz p.09 839-1000
>

#5147 From: Michael Hallager <michael@...>
Date: Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:33 pm
Subject:: New member introduction
michael@...
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Hello all-

I'm Michael, a new member to this list.

I'm currently in the process of setting up my LPFM station in the Henderson
area of West Auckland.

I was originally introduced to LPFM by Tony (When The Mulcher was broadcasting
in Blockhouse Bay, Auckland) and I recntly decided to make good on one of
this years resolutions. :-)
Peter Shaw kindly invited me to the exec meeting last week so I had a chance
to meet a few of you.

My new station will be a cross between Indy media and the old Radio Liberty
(Was broadcasting for a couple of years during the 90's) though it will be a
lot more NZ-centric then Radio Liberty was, which I think was unfortunitely a
mistake of theirs.
It will span from contemporary music to political and social commentary from
liberal, non-establishment aligned commentators.

My transmitter will be one based on a TX180A, a 1W PLL FM modulator made by an
Israeli company called Tugicom. Arik of Tugicom was concise, direct and
helpful in answering my few questions about their product and it was on this
basis I opted for their product in favour of the more common UK sourced
designs, which quite frankly are made by companies who's attitude to service
leaves something to be desired imho.
I will be making the neccessary modifications to bring the RF output of this
transmitter into line with the current GURL.

Can someone please advise me on the *official* status of the suggested 1W EIRP
GURL ammendment?

My background in radio includes obtaining my radio amateurs license several
years ago when I was of school age, and a few years ago - my VHF marine
license as well.

I look forward to being involved with and contributing to LPFM in NZ.

If anyone ever needs to contact me for any reason my phone numbers are (09)
839-1000 and 021 963-878.

Kind regards,

Michael Hallager
net trust ltd
www.networkstuff.co.nz p.09 839-1000

#5146 From: "grantthoms" <studio@...>
Date: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:33 pm
Subject:: Re: 88.1fm Papatoetoe
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Chocolate starfish? LOL


--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Richard Phelps" <richard@...>
wrote:
>
> Roger that chocolate starfish. Coming in loud n clear. Over.
>
> --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "grantthoms" <studio@> wrote:
> >
> > You might want to point out also that they are most likely breaking
> > the law. As far as I remember, any station must be broadcasting an
> > actual programme. You're not allowed to simply have a carrier there to
> > 'reserve' your frequency.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Grant

#5145 From: "Richard Phelps" <richard@...>
Date: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:15 am
Subject:: Re: 88.1fm Papatoetoe
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Roger that chocolate starfish. Coming in loud n clear. Over.

--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "grantthoms" <studio@...> wrote:
>
> You might want to point out also that they are most likely breaking
> the law. As far as I remember, any station must be broadcasting an
> actual programme. You're not allowed to simply have a carrier there to
> 'reserve' your frequency.
>
> Cheers,
> Grant
>
>
> --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Richard Phelps" <richard@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I spotted their aerial :)
> >
> > A resolution will be underway when I get hold of the reclusive owner.
> > Why do they have to be so hard to get hold of?!? They've been
> > broadcasting silence for the last week or so now. Annoying.
> >
> > --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "wireless.radio"
> > <happydayradio@> wrote:
> > >
> > > And ... ?
> > >
> > > How'd ya find 'em?
> > >
> > > What was the outcome?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Richard Phelps" <richard@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Tracked 'em down.
> > > >
> > > > --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "wireless.radio"
> > > > <happydayradio@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > A little bit of direction finding should be able to locate the
> TX.
> > > > > Who's got an RDF kit, or should that be the next piece of kit I
> > build?
> > > > >
> > > > > Given the issues associated with LPFM, one of these could be
> quite
> > > > > useful.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Richard Phelps"
<richard@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There seems to be a religious broadcaster on 88.1fm in
> > Papatoetoe.
> > > > > Of
> > > > > > course this is causing Retro Hit Radio another headache - as
> > we are
> > > > > in
> > > > > > the thick of a 7 month dispute with an overpowered &
> overmodulated
> > > > > > pirate on 88.2fm, causing plenty of problems already.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If anyone can try and listen for any station
identification by
> > > > > them -
> > > > > > preferably some contact details, please send them to me:
> > > > > > richard@
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Once we establish who they are, we will try and get in
touch and
> > > > > > suggest a better frequency for them - as 88.1 88.2 and 88.3
> > > > > throughout
> > > > > > the Papatoetoe/Otara area, and all down the motorway spine
from
> > > > > > Greenlane to Manukau is going through some awful turbulent
> > > > > > interference, and we'd like to try and keep people away from
> this
> > > > > > frequency range until these problems are sorted, and we can
> > clean up
> > > > > > the spectrum a bit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you know who this is, please get in touch.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > Retro Hit Radio
> > > > > > Manukau 88.1fm
> > > > > > richard@
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

#5144 From: "Richard Phelps" <richard@...>
Date: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:15 am
Subject:: Re: 88.1fm Papatoetoe
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Roger that chocolate starfish. Coming in loud n clear. Over.

--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "grantthoms" <studio@...> wrote:
>
> You might want to point out also that they are most likely breaking
> the law. As far as I remember, any station must be broadcasting an
> actual programme. You're not allowed to simply have a carrier there to
> 'reserve' your frequency.
>
> Cheers,
> Grant
>
>
> --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Richard Phelps" <richard@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I spotted their aerial :)
> >
> > A resolution will be underway when I get hold of the reclusive owner.
> > Why do they have to be so hard to get hold of?!? They've been
> > broadcasting silence for the last week or so now. Annoying.
> >
> > --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "wireless.radio"
> > <happydayradio@> wrote:
> > >
> > > And ... ?
> > >
> > > How'd ya find 'em?
> > >
> > > What was the outcome?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Richard Phelps" <richard@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Tracked 'em down.
> > > >
> > > > --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "wireless.radio"
> > > > <happydayradio@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > A little bit of direction finding should be able to locate the
> TX.
> > > > > Who's got an RDF kit, or should that be the next piece of kit I
> > build?
> > > > >
> > > > > Given the issues associated with LPFM, one of these could be
> quite
> > > > > useful.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Richard Phelps"
<richard@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There seems to be a religious broadcaster on 88.1fm in
> > Papatoetoe.
> > > > > Of
> > > > > > course this is causing Retro Hit Radio another headache - as
> > we are
> > > > > in
> > > > > > the thick of a 7 month dispute with an overpowered &
> overmodulated
> > > > > > pirate on 88.2fm, causing plenty of problems already.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If anyone can try and listen for any station
identification by
> > > > > them -
> > > > > > preferably some contact details, please send them to me:
> > > > > > richard@
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Once we establish who they are, we will try and get in
touch and
> > > > > > suggest a better frequency for them - as 88.1 88.2 and 88.3
> > > > > throughout
> > > > > > the Papatoetoe/Otara area, and all down the motorway spine
from
> > > > > > Greenlane to Manukau is going through some awful turbulent
> > > > > > interference, and we'd like to try and keep people away from
> this
> > > > > > frequency range until these problems are sorted, and we can
> > clean up
> > > > > > the spectrum a bit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you know who this is, please get in touch.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > Retro Hit Radio
> > > > > > Manukau 88.1fm
> > > > > > richard@
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

#5143 From: "wireless.radio" <happydayradio@...>
Date: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:31 pm
Subject:: [LPFM] Re: 88.1fm Papatoetoe
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Correct on all accounts. Must broadcast station ID on a regular basis
with phone number or address of operator. As for the "carrier-only"
transmission, I haven't read the regs on that one but I'd say it's not
allowed.
Go round and mention RFS to them, I'm sure they won't want a visit
from the MOD squad.


--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Gavin Stephens" <gstephens@...>
wrote:
>
> It must broadcast information that makes the station/operator
reachable, at least once every 3 hours last time I looked.
>
> Gavin.
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: grantthoms
>   To: LPFM_Radio@...
>   Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:22 PM
>   Subject: [LPFM] Re: 88.1fm Papatoetoe
>
>
>   You might want to point out also that they are most likely breaking
>   the law. As far as I remember, any station must be broadcasting an
>   actual programme. You're not allowed to simply have a carrier there to
>   'reserve' your frequency.
>
>   Cheers,
>   Grant
>
>   --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Richard Phelps" <richard@>
>   wrote:
>   >
>   > I spotted their aerial :)
>   >
>   > A resolution will be underway when I get hold of the reclusive
owner.
>   > Why do they have to be so hard to get hold of?!? They've been
>   > broadcasting silence for the last week or so now. Annoying.
>   >
>   > --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "wireless.radio"
>   > <happydayradio@> wrote:
>   > >
>   > > And ... ?
>   > >
>   > > How'd ya find 'em?
>   > >
>   > > What was the outcome?
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Richard Phelps" <richard@>
>   > > wrote:
>   > > >
>   > > > Tracked 'em down.
>   > > >
>   > > > --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "wireless.radio"
>   > > > <happydayradio@> wrote:
>   > > > >
>   > > > > A little bit of direction finding should be able to locate the
>   TX.
>   > > > > Who's got an RDF kit, or should that be the next piece of
kit I
>   > build?
>   > > > >
>   > > > > Given the issues associated with LPFM, one of these could be
>   quite
>   > > > > useful.
>   > > > >
>   > > > >
>   > > > > --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Richard Phelps"
<richard@>
>   > > > > wrote:
>   > > > > >
>   > > > > > Hi everyone,
>   > > > > >
>   > > > > > There seems to be a religious broadcaster on 88.1fm in
>   > Papatoetoe.
>   > > > > Of
>   > > > > > course this is causing Retro Hit Radio another headache - as
>   > we are
>   > > > > in
>   > > > > > the thick of a 7 month dispute with an overpowered &
>   overmodulated
>   > > > > > pirate on 88.2fm, causing plenty of problems already.
>   > > > > >
>   > > > > > If anyone can try and listen for any station
identification by
>   > > > > them -
>   > > > > > preferably some contact details, please send them to me:
>   > > > > > richard@
>   > > > > >
>   > > > > > Once we establish who they are, we will try and get in
touch and
>   > > > > > suggest a better frequency for them - as 88.1 88.2 and 88.3
>   > > > > throughout
>   > > > > > the Papatoetoe/Otara area, and all down the motorway
spine from
>   > > > > > Greenlane to Manukau is going through some awful turbulent
>   > > > > > interference, and we'd like to try and keep people away from
>   this
>   > > > > > frequency range until these problems are sorted, and we can
>   > clean up
>   > > > > > the spectrum a bit.
>   > > > > >
>   > > > > > If you know who this is, please get in touch.
>   > > > > >
>   > > > > > Richard
>   > > > > > Retro Hit Radio
>   > > > > > Manukau 88.1fm
>   > > > > > richard@
>   > > > > >
>   > > > >
>   > > >
>   > >
>   >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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#5142 From: "Gavin Stephens" <gstephens@...>
Date: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:30 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Re: 88.1fm Papatoetoe
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It must broadcast information that makes the station/operator reachable, at least once every 3 hours last time I looked.
 
Gavin.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: grantthoms
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:22 PM
Subject: [LPFM] Re: 88.1fm Papatoetoe

You might want to point out also that they are most likely breaking
the law. As far as I remember, any station must be broadcasting an
actual programme. You're not allowed to simply have a carrier there to
'reserve' your frequency.

Cheers,
Grant

--- In LPFM_Radio@yahoogroups.com.au, "Richard Phelps" <richard@...>
wrote:
>
> I spotted their aerial :)
>
> A resolution will be underway when I get hold of the reclusive owner.
> Why do they have to be so hard to get hold of?!? They've been
> broadcasting silence for the last week or so now. Annoying.
>
> --- In LPFM_Radio@yahoogroups.com.au, "wireless.radio"
> <happydayradio@> wrote:
> >
> > And ... ?
> >
> > How'd ya find 'em?
> >
> > What was the outcome?
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In LPFM_Radio@yahoogroups.com.au, "Richard Phelps" <richard@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Tracked 'em down.
> > >
> > > --- In LPFM_Radio@yahoogroups.com.au, "wireless.radio"
> > > <happydayradio@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A little bit of direction finding should be able to locate the
TX.
> > > > Who's got an RDF kit, or should that be the next piece of kit I
> build?
> > > >
> > > > Given the issues associated with LPFM, one of these could be
quite
> > > > useful.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In LPFM_Radio@yahoogroups.com.au, "Richard Phelps" <richard@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > There seems to be a religious broadcaster on 88.1fm in
> Papatoetoe.
> > > > Of
> > > > > course this is causing Retro Hit Radio another headache - as
> we are
> > > > in
> > > > > the thick of a 7 month dispute with an overpowered &
overmodulated
> > > > > pirate on 88.2fm, causing plenty of problems already.
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone can try and listen for any station identification by
> > > > them -
> > > > > preferably some contact details, please send them to me:
> > > > > richard@
> > > > >
> > > > > Once we establish who they are, we will try and get in touch and
> > > > > suggest a better frequency for them - as 88.1 88.2 and 88.3
> > > > throughout
> > > > > the Papatoetoe/Otara area, and all down the motorway spine from
> > > > > Greenlane to Manukau is going through some awful turbulent
> > > > > interference, and we'd like to try and keep people away from
this
> > > > > frequency range until these problems are sorted, and we can
> clean up
> > > > > the spectrum a bit.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you know who this is, please get in touch.
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard
> > > > > Retro Hit Radio
> > > > > Manukau 88.1fm
> > > > > richard@
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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#5141 From: "grantthoms" <studio@...>
Date: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:22 am
Subject:: Re: 88.1fm Papatoetoe
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You might want to point out also that they are most likely breaking
the law. As far as I remember, any station must be broadcasting an
actual programme. You're not allowed to simply have a carrier there to
'reserve' your frequency.

Cheers,
Grant


--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Richard Phelps" <richard@...>
wrote:
>
> I spotted their aerial :)
>
> A resolution will be underway when I get hold of the reclusive owner.
> Why do they have to be so hard to get hold of?!? They've been
> broadcasting silence for the last week or so now. Annoying.
>
> --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "wireless.radio"
> <happydayradio@> wrote:
> >
> > And ... ?
> >
> > How'd ya find 'em?
> >
> > What was the outcome?
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Richard Phelps" <richard@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Tracked 'em down.
> > >
> > > --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "wireless.radio"
> > > <happydayradio@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A little bit of direction finding should be able to locate the
TX.
> > > > Who's got an RDF kit, or should that be the next piece of kit I
> build?
> > > >
> > > > Given the issues associated with LPFM, one of these could be
quite
> > > > useful.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Richard Phelps" <richard@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > There seems to be a religious broadcaster on 88.1fm in
> Papatoetoe.
> > > > Of
> > > > > course this is causing Retro Hit Radio another headache - as
> we are
> > > > in
> > > > > the thick of a 7 month dispute with an overpowered &
overmodulated
> > > > > pirate on 88.2fm, causing plenty of problems already.
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone can try and listen for any station identification by
> > > > them -
> > > > > preferably some contact details, please send them to me:
> > > > > richard@
> > > > >
> > > > > Once we establish who they are, we will try and get in touch and
> > > > > suggest a better frequency for them - as 88.1 88.2 and 88.3
> > > > throughout
> > > > > the Papatoetoe/Otara area, and all down the motorway spine from
> > > > > Greenlane to Manukau is going through some awful turbulent
> > > > > interference, and we'd like to try and keep people away from
this
> > > > > frequency range until these problems are sorted, and we can
> clean up
> > > > > the spectrum a bit.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you know who this is, please get in touch.
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard
> > > > > Retro Hit Radio
> > > > > Manukau 88.1fm
> > > > > richard@
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

#5140 From: "Richard Phelps" <richard@...>
Date: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:56 am
Subject:: Re: 88.1fm Papatoetoe
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I spotted their aerial :)

A resolution will be underway when I get hold of the reclusive owner.
Why do they have to be so hard to get hold of?!? They've been
broadcasting silence for the last week or so now. Annoying.

--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "wireless.radio"
<happydayradio@...> wrote:
>
> And ... ?
>
> How'd ya find 'em?
>
> What was the outcome?
>
>
>
> --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Richard Phelps" <richard@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Tracked 'em down.
> >
> > --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "wireless.radio"
> > <happydayradio@> wrote:
> > >
> > > A little bit of direction finding should be able to locate the TX.
> > > Who's got an RDF kit, or should that be the next piece of kit I
build?
> > >
> > > Given the issues associated with LPFM, one of these could be quite
> > > useful.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Richard Phelps" <richard@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > There seems to be a religious broadcaster on 88.1fm in
Papatoetoe.
> > > Of
> > > > course this is causing Retro Hit Radio another headache - as
we are
> > > in
> > > > the thick of a 7 month dispute with an overpowered & overmodulated
> > > > pirate on 88.2fm, causing plenty of problems already.
> > > >
> > > > If anyone can try and listen for any station identification by
> > > them -
> > > > preferably some contact details, please send them to me:
> > > > richard@
> > > >
> > > > Once we establish who they are, we will try and get in touch and
> > > > suggest a better frequency for them - as 88.1 88.2 and 88.3
> > > throughout
> > > > the Papatoetoe/Otara area, and all down the motorway spine from
> > > > Greenlane to Manukau is going through some awful turbulent
> > > > interference, and we'd like to try and keep people away from this
> > > > frequency range until these problems are sorted, and we can
clean up
> > > > the spectrum a bit.
> > > >
> > > > If you know who this is, please get in touch.
> > > >
> > > > Richard
> > > > Retro Hit Radio
> > > > Manukau 88.1fm
> > > > richard@
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

#5139 From: "wireless.radio" <happydayradio@...>
Date: Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:40 am
Subject:: Re: 88.1fm Papatoetoe
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And ... ?

How'd ya find 'em?

What was the outcome?



--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Richard Phelps" <richard@...>
wrote:
>
> Tracked 'em down.
>
> --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "wireless.radio"
> <happydayradio@> wrote:
> >
> > A little bit of direction finding should be able to locate the TX.
> > Who's got an RDF kit, or should that be the next piece of kit I build?
> >
> > Given the issues associated with LPFM, one of these could be quite
> > useful.
> >
> >
> > --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Richard Phelps" <richard@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > There seems to be a religious broadcaster on 88.1fm in Papatoetoe.
> > Of
> > > course this is causing Retro Hit Radio another headache - as we are
> > in
> > > the thick of a 7 month dispute with an overpowered & overmodulated
> > > pirate on 88.2fm, causing plenty of problems already.
> > >
> > > If anyone can try and listen for any station identification by
> > them -
> > > preferably some contact details, please send them to me:
> > > richard@
> > >
> > > Once we establish who they are, we will try and get in touch and
> > > suggest a better frequency for them - as 88.1 88.2 and 88.3
> > throughout
> > > the Papatoetoe/Otara area, and all down the motorway spine from
> > > Greenlane to Manukau is going through some awful turbulent
> > > interference, and we'd like to try and keep people away from this
> > > frequency range until these problems are sorted, and we can clean up
> > > the spectrum a bit.
> > >
> > > If you know who this is, please get in touch.
> > >
> > > Richard
> > > Retro Hit Radio
> > > Manukau 88.1fm
> > > richard@
> > >
> >
>

#5138 From: "Richard Phelps" <richard@...>
Date: Sat Mar 24, 2007 3:36 am
Subject:: Re: 88.1fm Papatoetoe
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Tracked 'em down.

--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "wireless.radio"
<happydayradio@...> wrote:
>
> A little bit of direction finding should be able to locate the TX.
> Who's got an RDF kit, or should that be the next piece of kit I build?
>
> Given the issues associated with LPFM, one of these could be quite
> useful.
>
>
> --- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Richard Phelps" <richard@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > There seems to be a religious broadcaster on 88.1fm in Papatoetoe.
> Of
> > course this is causing Retro Hit Radio another headache - as we are
> in
> > the thick of a 7 month dispute with an overpowered & overmodulated
> > pirate on 88.2fm, causing plenty of problems already.
> >
> > If anyone can try and listen for any station identification by
> them -
> > preferably some contact details, please send them to me:
> > richard@
> >
> > Once we establish who they are, we will try and get in touch and
> > suggest a better frequency for them - as 88.1 88.2 and 88.3
> throughout
> > the Papatoetoe/Otara area, and all down the motorway spine from
> > Greenlane to Manukau is going through some awful turbulent
> > interference, and we'd like to try and keep people away from this
> > frequency range until these problems are sorted, and we can clean up
> > the spectrum a bit.
> >
> > If you know who this is, please get in touch.
> >
> > Richard
> > Retro Hit Radio
> > Manukau 88.1fm
> > richard@
> >
>

#5137 From: "wireless.radio" <happydayradio@...>
Date: Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:38 am
Subject:: Re: 88.1fm Papatoetoe
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A little bit of direction finding should be able to locate the TX.
Who's got an RDF kit, or should that be the next piece of kit I build?

Given the issues associated with LPFM, one of these could be quite
useful.


--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Richard Phelps" <richard@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> There seems to be a religious broadcaster on 88.1fm in Papatoetoe.
Of
> course this is causing Retro Hit Radio another headache - as we are
in
> the thick of a 7 month dispute with an overpowered & overmodulated
> pirate on 88.2fm, causing plenty of problems already.
>
> If anyone can try and listen for any station identification by
them -
> preferably some contact details, please send them to me:
> richard@...
>
> Once we establish who they are, we will try and get in touch and
> suggest a better frequency for them - as 88.1 88.2 and 88.3
throughout
> the Papatoetoe/Otara area, and all down the motorway spine from
> Greenlane to Manukau is going through some awful turbulent
> interference, and we'd like to try and keep people away from this
> frequency range until these problems are sorted, and we can clean up
> the spectrum a bit.
>
> If you know who this is, please get in touch.
>
> Richard
> Retro Hit Radio
> Manukau 88.1fm
> richard@...
>

#5136 From: "Richard Phelps" <richard@...>
Date: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:51 am
Subject:: 88.1fm Papatoetoe
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Hi everyone,

There seems to be a religious broadcaster on 88.1fm in Papatoetoe. Of
course this is causing Retro Hit Radio another headache - as we are in
the thick of a 7 month dispute with an overpowered & overmodulated
pirate on 88.2fm, causing plenty of problems already.

If anyone can try and listen for any station identification by them -
preferably some contact details, please send them to me:
richard@...

Once we establish who they are, we will try and get in touch and
suggest a better frequency for them - as 88.1 88.2 and 88.3 throughout
the Papatoetoe/Otara area, and all down the motorway spine from
Greenlane to Manukau is going through some awful turbulent
interference, and we'd like to try and keep people away from this
frequency range until these problems are sorted, and we can clean up
the spectrum a bit.

If you know who this is, please get in touch.

Richard
Retro Hit Radio
Manukau 88.1fm
richard@...

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Date: Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:57 pm
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#5134 From: spokwa467@...
Date: Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:58 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] NRG Stereo Broadcast Station for Sale----USA
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#5133 From: "Steve Jepson" <steve.jepson@...>
Date: Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:05 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] NRG Stereo Broadcast Station for Sale----USA
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Are the transmitters set for 50 or 75 uS Pre emphasis ?
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:00 PM
Subject: [LPFM] NRG Stereo Broadcast Station for Sale----USA

 
Hello
I have an NRG 1 to 4 watt mono transmitter PLL Pro 3, a NRG stereo encoder Pro 4 and the stereo Limiter/Compressor Pro 3. All of these items are personally assembled by myself from NRG kits into my own custom metal cabinets. I use to build and sell these here in the USA and have made, tested and sold several of the different NRG kits still available making my own cabinets for each item. I no longer do this so Im selling my personal broadcast station that has very little use or actual air time. Its has superior stereo sound quality that I was very impressed with and Im sure you would be also. I will also include all of the extra parts that I kept for spares for these NRG products and its a lot. Im here in the USA and Im asking $400.00 + shipping USA funds. Dew to the fact I have no control over how this system is to be installed and used I cannot give any type of guarantee but items will not be DOA. You can see detailed photos and descriptions of my work at the web address below and please check out my eBay feed back under spokwa467 for all positive feedback reports, 140 transactions and no unhappy customers. Let me know if your interested
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#5132 From: spokwa467@...
Date: Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:00 pm
Subject:: NRG Stereo Broadcast Station for Sale----USA
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Hello
I have an NRG 1 to 4 watt mono transmitter PLL Pro 3, a NRG stereo encoder Pro 4 and the stereo Limiter/Compressor Pro 3. All of these items are personally assembled by myself from NRG kits into my own custom metal cabinets. I use to build and sell these here in the USA and have made, tested and sold several of the different NRG kits still available making my own cabinets for each item. I no longer do this so Im selling my personal broadcast station that has very little use or actual air time. Its has superior stereo sound quality that I was very impressed with and Im sure you would be also. I will also include all of the extra parts that I kept for spares for these NRG products and its a lot. Im here in the USA and Im asking $400.00 + shipping USA funds. Dew to the fact I have no control over how this system is to be installed and used I cannot give any type of guarantee but items will not be DOA. You can see detailed photos and descriptions of my work at the web address below and please check out my eBay feed back under spokwa467 for all positive feedback reports, 140 transactions and no unhappy customers. Let me know if your interested
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#5131 From: "wireless.radio" <happydayradio@...>
Date: Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:23 pm
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] 88.6 Beach FM
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Hmmm.. hardly a level playing field is it?


--- In LPFM_Radio@..., "Steve Jepson"
<steve.jepson@...> wrote:
>
> Think You Got it Dean   but I note the licence expires very soon anyway
>
> Steve
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Groove 107.7FM
>   To: LPFM_Radio@...
>   Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:49 AM
>   Subject: Re: [LPFM] 88.6 Beach FM
>
>
>
>   Hmmm...I wish a minister would make a promise for us!
>   I know a former broadcasting minister who likes the station...is
that enough?
>
>   Dean
>
>   Groove 107.7FM
>   PO Box 10 989
>   Wellington
>   Ph  381 4766 (381GROOVE)
>   Fax 381 4755
>   Mob 021-457 368
>
>   www.groovefm.co.nz
>
>   Cafe Style Radio
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Steve Jepson
>     To: LPFM_Radio@...
>     Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 7:35 AM
>     Subject: Re: [LPFM] 88.6 Beach FM
>
>
>
>     Ministers make promises and the MED are told to ( create ) a
licence !!
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: wireless.radio
>       To: LPFM_Radio@...
>       Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:47 PM
>       Subject: [LPFM] 88.6 Beach FM
>
>
>       I may have missed all the discussion about this, but can someone
>       explain to me just how an apparently "commercial" station can be
>       issued a medium power licence in the LPFM band??
>
>       I've just returned from a few days in the Wellington region and as
>       much as I like the music they were playing, I just can't work
out how
>       this could happen.
>
>       With the exception of MAI in Auckland, I was under the
impression that
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#5130 From: "Steve Jepson" <steve.jepson@...>
Date: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:16 pm
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] 88.6 Beach FM
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Think You Got it Dean   but I note the licence expires very soon anyway
 
Steve
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [LPFM] 88.6 Beach FM

Hmmm...I wish a minister would make a promise for us!
I know a former broadcasting minister who likes the station...is that enough?
 
Dean
 
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PO Box 10 989
Wellington
Ph  381 4766 (381GROOVE)
Fax 381 4755
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Cafe Style Radio
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: [LPFM] 88.6 Beach FM

Ministers make promises and the MED are told to ( create ) a licence !!
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:47 PM
Subject: [LPFM] 88.6 Beach FM

I may have missed all the discussion about this, but can someone
explain to me just how an apparently "commercial" station can be
issued a medium power licence in the LPFM band??

I've just returned from a few days in the Wellington region and as
much as I like the music they were playing, I just can't work out how
this could happen.

With the exception of MAI in Auckland, I was under the impression that
88.6 was set aside for GURL purposes.

Or is this a case of "Yes, you can use these frequencies for LPFM
providing we haven't already issued them to customers waving large
chequebooks at us" ??


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#5129 From: "Groove 107.7FM" <dean.c@...>
Date: Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:49 pm
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] 88.6 Beach FM
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Hmmm...I wish a minister would make a promise for us!
I know a former broadcasting minister who likes the station...is that enough?
 
Dean
 
Groove 107.7FM
PO Box 10 989
Wellington
Ph  381 4766 (381GROOVE)
Fax 381 4755
Mob 021-457 368
 
 
Cafe Style Radio
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: [LPFM] 88.6 Beach FM

Ministers make promises and the MED are told to ( create ) a licence !!
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:47 PM
Subject: [LPFM] 88.6 Beach FM

I may have missed all the discussion about this, but can someone
explain to me just how an apparently "commercial" station can be
issued a medium power licence in the LPFM band??

I've just returned from a few days in the Wellington region and as
much as I like the music they were playing, I just can't work out how
this could happen.

With the exception of MAI in Auckland, I was under the impression that
88.6 was set aside for GURL purposes.

Or is this a case of "Yes, you can use these frequencies for LPFM
providing we haven't already issued them to customers waving large
chequebooks at us" ??


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#5128 From: "Steve Jepson" <steve.jepson@...>
Date: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:35 pm
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] 88.6 Beach FM
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Ministers make promises and the MED are told to ( create ) a licence !!
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:47 PM
Subject: [LPFM] 88.6 Beach FM

I may have missed all the discussion about this, but can someone
explain to me just how an apparently "commercial" station can be
issued a medium power licence in the LPFM band??

I've just returned from a few days in the Wellington region and as
much as I like the music they were playing, I just can't work out how
this could happen.

With the exception of MAI in Auckland, I was under the impression that
88.6 was set aside for GURL purposes.

Or is this a case of "Yes, you can use these frequencies for LPFM
providing we haven't already issued them to customers waving large
chequebooks at us" ??


#5127 From: "wireless.radio" <happydayradio@...>
Date: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:47 am
Subject:: 88.6 Beach FM
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I may have missed all the discussion about this, but can someone
explain to me just how an apparently "commercial" station can be
issued a medium power licence in the LPFM band??

I've just returned from a few days in the Wellington region and as
much as I like the music they were playing, I just can't work out how
this could happen.

With the exception of MAI in Auckland, I was under the impression that
88.6 was set aside for GURL purposes.

Or is this a case of "Yes, you can use these frequencies for LPFM
providing we haven't already issued them to customers waving large
chequebooks at us" ??

#5126 From: "Ross Levis" <ross@...>
Date: Fri Mar 9, 2007 2:16 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] RSM Comment on Power etc.
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Only approved transmitters or manufacturers can be used anyway.  They have to be within strict specifications.
 
Sure someone can put 100% deviation into a good spec TX and cause a wider signal than allowed, but whether this is at 0.5 or 1 watt would cause the same problems, just slightly worse at 1 watt.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:21 PM
Subject: [SPAM-LOW] Re: [LPFM] RSM Comment on Power etc.

I assume they are worried about the out of band spuires and rubbish from some of the kitset transmitters that have been set up without proper test equipment  , eg Spec Analyser check of the output .   Very few will have a cavity filter in the TX feeder !
 
S
----- Original Message -----
From: Ross Levis
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [LPFM] RSM Comment on Power etc.

Right up to 108Mhz I think you mean.  Yes I know.  I mentioned that to RSM but they said NZ has older radio equipment here compared to other countries, and can't handle the same filtering.
 
I can accept that for a 10,000 watt broadcast on 108Mhz, but it's absolute nonsense to suggest that increasing the power by 3db from 0.5 to 1 watt is going to break through the filters that are currently filtering out the 0.5 watts.  10 watts would not interfere with anything 1Mhz away with any age equipment.  Although perhaps Marconi's first invention may have had trouble in the late 1800's.
 
Ross.
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