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#995 From: "Murray Clark" <murrayclark08@...>
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 6:55 am
Subject:: Even Radio Hauraki( Classic Rock) is Automated from a Computer. murrayclark08@...
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Hi LPFM ers,

Isn't it interesting that Radio Hauraki whenever I have listened is Computer Generated, for those in the South Island it's now owned by the Radio Network, Classic Rock Music, transmitting in most of the larger North Island Towns.

Murray

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#994 From: "M.B & J.D Duffy" <DuffyFamily@...>
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 5:19 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Deliveries DuffyFamily@...
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Yes you are right I will be sticking to nrg in the future as well.

Just thought I would try a US one as the us to the nz dollar was good at the time. for the 40 dollar nz saving it was hardly worth the 5 weeks now wait.

M.B.D

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Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 8:57 AM

Subject: Re: [LPFM] Deliveries

Hi guys, I work in an internet sales dept. in an electronics shop.Let me tell ya that holding large amounts of stock is the way to go.If you see on a site a sign that says "1,000's in stock",then that is good,if you see "ships 1-2 days" it means we have it here,any longer a shipping time and it means we don't have any but we know a man who does...And when you don't have the stock you run away and hide from your punters.The best turn around on shipping time is NRG to me,I am in the middle of a 40 watt using a good chunk of Moss's stuff.The yanks that I have tried all seemed to be amatuerish and late.By the way,I am in Ireland and I am totally disgusted that you can get your pommie transmitters in four days when it takes TWO for them to get to me.Somethings got to be done I tell ya!

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From: Groove 88.4FM

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Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 7:05 AM

Subject: Re: [LPFM] Deliveries

I got my UK one in a couple of days! I was amased.

Dean

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From: M.B & J.D Duffy

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Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:44 AM

Subject: [LPFM] Deliveries

Hi Group I'm just making a general querie regarding service from tx kit suppliers.

Call me strange but I've always used a particular brand of tx a well known and respected english out fit.

1 month ago I decided to try another kit manufacturer this time from the US.

As I said this was exactly 4 weeks ago and just yesterday recieved an email saying that it had just been shipped.

Mean while I got sick of waiting and ordered another one from the UK and had it my hands four days after I ordered it.

I have another 3 stations on the go and will be using the UK supplier again.

What is the groups experience with tx supply

MBD

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#993 From: "Yellowbeard" <yellowbeard@...>
Date: Fri Feb 28, 2003 7:57 pm
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Deliveries yellowbeard@...
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Hi guys, I work in an internet sales dept. in an electronics shop.Let me tell ya that holding large amounts of stock is the way to go.If you see on a site a sign that says "1,000's in stock",then that is good,if you see "ships 1-2 days" it means we have it here,any longer a shipping time and it means we don't have any but we know a man who does...And when you don't have the stock you run away and hide from your punters.The best turn around on shipping time is NRG to me,I am in the middle of a 40 watt using a good chunk of Moss's stuff.The yanks that I have tried all seemed to be amatuerish and late.By the way,I am in Ireland and I am totally disgusted that you can get your pommie transmitters in four days when it takes TWO for them to get to me.Somethings got to be done I tell ya!

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From: Groove 88.4FM

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Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 7:05 AM

Subject: Re: [LPFM] Deliveries

I got my UK one in a couple of days! I was amased.

Dean

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From: M.B & J.D Duffy

To: LPFM_Radio@...

Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:44 AM

Subject: [LPFM] Deliveries

Hi Group I'm just making a general querie regarding service from tx kit suppliers.

Call me strange but I've always used a particular brand of tx a well known and respected english out fit.

1 month ago I decided to try another kit manufacturer this time from the US.

As I said this was exactly 4 weeks ago and just yesterday recieved an email saying that it had just been shipped.

Mean while I got sick of waiting and ordered another one from the UK and had it my hands four days after I ordered it.

I have another 3 stations on the go and will be using the UK supplier again.

What is the groups experience with tx supply

MBD

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#992 From: "Teresa & Rob" <tkc@...>
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 9:46 pm
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Battles ninetyninefm
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Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:06 AM

Subject: [LPFM] Battles

I am currrently battling with the MED about freqencies.. (isnt everyone) Would be interested to know any stories or info you guys have about your frequencies..How did you get one? What about the guardbands? Have you been shut down ?? etc Claire Medcalf Massey University Network Transmissions _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk
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#991 From: "claire medcalf" <fantasticclaire@...>
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 8:06 pm
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I am currrently battling with the MED about freqencies..
(isnt everyone)

Would be interested to know any stories or info you guys have about your
frequencies..How did you get one? What about the guardbands? Have you been
shut down ??  etc

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#990 From: "Groove 88.4FM" <dean.c@...>
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 7:05 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Deliveries dean.c@...
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I got my UK one in a couple of days! I was amased.

Dean

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From: M.B & J.D Duffy

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Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:44 AM

Subject: [LPFM] Deliveries

Hi Group I'm just making a general querie regarding service from tx kit suppliers.

Call me strange but I've always used a particular brand of tx a well known and respected english out fit.

1 month ago I decided to try another kit manufacturer this time from the US.

As I said this was exactly 4 weeks ago and just yesterday recieved an email saying that it had just been shipped.

Mean while I got sick of waiting and ordered another one from the UK and had it my hands four days after I ordered it.

I have another 3 stations on the go and will be using the UK supplier again.

What is the groups experience with tx supply

MBD

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#989 From: "Chris Diack - Concerta Consultants" <diack@...>
Date: Thu Feb 27, 2003 6:22 am
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Er Yes... (trying to think of a light hearted reply and failing miserably) :-) Chris

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It's getting bad when you are replying to blank mails Chris...

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Yoyo

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#988 From: "M.B & J.D Duffy" <DuffyFamily@...>
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 7:44 pm
Subject:: Deliveries DuffyFamily@...
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Hi Group I'm just making a general querie regarding service from tx kit suppliers.

Call me strange but I've always used a particular brand of tx a well known and respected english out fit.

1 month ago I decided to try another kit manufacturer this time from the US.

As I said this was exactly 4 weeks ago and just yesterday recieved an email saying that it had just been shipped.

Mean while I got sick of waiting and ordered another one from the UK and had it my hands four days after I ordered it.

I have another 3 stations on the go and will be using the UK supplier again.

What is the groups experience with tx supply

MBD

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#987 From: Bryan Heath <bryan_heath@...>
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 11:52 pm
Subject:: FW: PETROL PRICES bheathnz
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Now... This could be worth a thought...


> We are going to hit close to $1.35a litre by the winter.
>
> Want petrol prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united
> action.
>
> This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain day"
> campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just
> laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt ourselves
> by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it
> was a problem for them.
>
> BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really
> work. Please read it and join in!
>
> Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to
> think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP at .89 / .95 cents, we need to
> take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace
> not sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers
> need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of petrol
> come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing their
> Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.
>
> Here's the idea "For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY Petrol from
> the two biggest oil companies (which now are one - BP) If they are not
> selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they
> reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit."
>
> But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of BP petrol
> buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now, don't wimp out on me at this
> point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions
> of people!!
>
> I am sending this note to a lot of people. If each of you send it to at
> least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten
> more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the message reaches the
> sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION
> consumers!
>
> Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.
> (and not buy at BP)
>
> How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten
> more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could
> conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you didn't
> think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together we can
> make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this  message
> on.
>
> PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 80 cents a LITRE
> RANGE
>
> Action:
> It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your
> petrol at Shell, Caltex, Mobil, g,a.s. or Gull Outlets and drive by BP
> Stations.
>

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#986 From: "Yellowbeard" <yellowbeard@...>
Date: Wed Feb 26, 2003 7:34 pm
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It's getting bad when you are replying to blank mails Chris...

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Yoyo

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#985 From: "Chris Diack - Concerta Consultants" <diack@...>
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Yoyo

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#984 From: "David" <mrdaka@...>
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#983 From: Michael and Ross <alnairgrus@...>
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 7:24 pm
Subject:: Efficient use of the AM Band alnairgrus
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A more efficient use of the AM Band and to a lesser extent FM is to lower the power of the networked stations ie use the "Rhemas,Sport Radios etc " onto lower power (also minimising phasing) utilizing the same frequencies more or less throughout the country and freeing up lots more frequencies for alternative broadcasting ie in Auckland the lack of 50s and 60s music radio,Dance Radio,Country music,Heavy Metal etc etc.

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#982 From: Ross Levis <ross@...>
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 9:46 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Steam Radio rosslevis
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Why are they so expensive? A mate & I once built a small AM transmitter in the late 70's using a crystal we found on 1695khz. Most radios could tune up that high, or at least be adjusted so it did. Just a small circuit but when you connected the aerial into a phone line, the signal could be picked up almost anywhere around Tauranga with a tranny, particularly if you walked up to a telephone pole.

Ross.

kath & paul wrote:

Hi all, Paul here. Its not the cost of the transmitters , its the cost of the aerial mast(land,resourse consent-if you can get it, power to site, it also need to be close to the target market.. A 1KW am transmitter made here in chch costs 10 grand. 2.5 KW for around 25k, 5KW for under 55K. Check out where I work www.blyth.co.nz . We build and service AM but we are developing a low power FM range of gear. stay tuned :-)

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Good idea,

However, I think you'll find AM tansmission is a ton more expensive than FM transmission, considering the wavelength it operates at - which is why they use such big towers.

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I liked it when 2XM Radio Massey in Palmy was on 1269kHz in the early 80's-it was very weak 0.1kW I think.

Other weak ones was 1ZT 1380,2ZH Hawera 1560,3ZO Twizel I think was 1390?-Could they use AM for LP? providing under 100 watts or so as they share AM now especially close ones like Rhema on 540Khz in Tauranga and New Plymouth and 702 Khz for Pacific Auckland and ZB Rotorua.(1ZN has been shared for years with Radio Northland but I think its separated due to ZB on 1026 now)

Theres others they used over the years like Counties Radio(Ak) once used 2ZE's freq of 1539 which is Blenheims.People in Seddon would'nt hear Counties for instance so it could be used like FM but with furthur limits.

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#981 From: Ross Levis <ross@...>
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 9:37 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] ERP rosslevis
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890 rings a bell now for Windy. It was one of the rare private stations around the country.

I remember the jingle now "1270 2SM" in Sydney. After the 9khz change, 2SM was inaudible due to some station somewhere around the country using the same frequency. Oz of course change to 9khz at the same time. I use to do a lot of AM DXing. After the 9khz changeover, the best DXing was American stations. I once recorded a Texas station that often boomed in somewhere in the 1050-1200 range I can't quite remember the town either. Fiji Radio One and Two was quite strong but boring.

Ross.

Michael and Ross wrote:

Ross, Windy was on 1080 originally then it moved to 890 then 891-2ZB was on 980 before it moved to 1035-I used to listen to 2ZB and Windy.Your interference must been 1YZ as it was on 860Khz(I think).

2SM wouldve been on 1270 so Napier wouldnt interfer on 1280 in Tauranga.

1ZD Tauranga was on 1000Khz-It used to have a terrible hetrodyne when the TV was on.

Michael

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#980 From: "kath & paul" <kathpaul@...>
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 8:39 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Steam Radio kathandpaul1
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Hi all, Paul here. Its not the cost of the transmitters , its the cost of the aerial mast(land,resourse consent-if you can get it, power to site, it also need to be close to the target market.. A 1KW am transmitter made here in chch costs 10 grand. 2.5 KW for around 25k, 5KW for under 55K. Check out where I work www.blyth.co.nz . We build and service AM but we are developing a low power FM range of gear. stay tuned :-)

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Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 1:54 PM

Subject: Re: [LPFM] Steam Radio

Good idea,

However, I think you'll find AM tansmission is a ton more expensive than FM transmission, considering the wavelength it operates at - which is why they use such big towers.

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Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 1:46 PM

Subject: [LPFM] Steam Radio

I liked it when 2XM Radio Massey in Palmy was on 1269kHz in the early 80's-it was very weak 0.1kW I think.

Other weak ones was 1ZT 1380,2ZH Hawera 1560,3ZO Twizel I think was 1390?-Could they use AM for LP? providing under 100 watts or so as they share AM now especially close ones like Rhema on 540Khz in Tauranga and New Plymouth and 702 Khz for Pacific Auckland and ZB Rotorua.(1ZN has been shared for years with Radio Northland but I think its separated due to ZB on 1026 now)

Theres others they used over the years like Counties Radio(Ak) once used 2ZE's freq of 1539 which is Blenheims.People in Seddon would'nt hear Counties for instance so it could be used like FM but with furthur limits.

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#979 From: "Groove 88.4FM" <dean.c@...>
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 7:07 am
Subject:: Re: [LPFM] Community Service dean.c@...
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Wow! Go Gavin.

Rob, I like the idea of the advertising contra or mix of options 1 & 2.

Can send advertising details/rate card if you like.

Dean

PS Is anyone interested in a half hour Lounge/Swing program weekly on minidisc?

I'm planning on producing one for another station...

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Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 7:10 PM

Subject: [LPFM] Community Service

I couldn't agree more for the person who mentioned getting in to other areas and having no relavant service to the area.

Some background on our 8 month operation so far...

Things we do as far as service to our community, our community notice board has around 50 messages of which we read about 11-15 of per hour over the hour period. In the 8 months we've been going here we must have at least 1,800+ notices collected that have received around $2-300 of free publicity. Lost and founds, buy sell and exchange which you don't even get these simple services even on dunedin city only radio. We suppliment IRN news with 3 minutes of local news and sports every half hour in breakfast, we highlight anyone and not just large public figure achievers. We do lots of live interviews with the likes of polititians, farming and health people, anything to do with local commerce and business or economic development, the local schools, such as rural polytech, high schools, and kids, not just grown ups. We do professional interviews with new business people and joe bloggs's new home hobby business card making etc free of charge, and people here LOVE it, they hear everything to do with them on the local radio station. We cover quite a few towns but they still consider us local because we don't talk about metro areas or what chrstina aguliera's up to.

We're proberly one of the very few local community stations around hevily involved with our own area... ie attending lots of business after 5 functions.. public events... MCing some events for people. Even though we don't have a license and MED are a huge pain in the arse regarding this for us, radioworks (canwest for those up north) can not stand in our path of programming, one major reason because they seem to think only pop music sells and nothign but wall to wall music and jocks that get their news from the top 50 charts... if that was the case TV2 and TV3 would only be playing the same repeat of shortland street every 4 hours or whatever radioworks minimum rotate is.

I wouldn't think we're out to be an empire either.... we don't want multiple channels, you can only be a real community station with one channel, besides, it's so easy when the rest of them are voice tracked crap from auckland or telling the weather forecast as their big deed to it's broadcast area.

There's a market for everything, and I think radioworks and trn have the right to be there, but they don't have the right to be the bandwidth police for anti-competitiveness. What peeve's me the most is the need for lobbying against the government and it's broadcasting departments, if they MED employee's (not you Andrew you're a nice fella and respect your input in the ministry) had people working for it from the broadcast sector, the public not private such as access radio, local community commercials etc... then maybe something will happen. Hell I also agree with that other comment!!!!!!!!!!! as far as engineering fee's for some other bugger to own it! I think half that engineering stuff is BS, surly with the amount of channels in use these days if there's one available at the same location at an exsisting one, it should be instantly issued for the same power and polorisation? There's no excuse for it not to be, that doesn't take scientific calcutations surely? It's not like RSM go and check it out on the site it's self, they type away on their computers and tax money already pays their wages.

We can lobby and lobby and lobby, and radioworks (canwest for those up north) will only spend more money and money and money to keep things as is. Anyone noticed the amount of people that still think there's someone really there on the other side of the radio, otherwise what good is it to me? They don't realise it's litterly all off computer not just music! Or the local radio station that seems to only do local weather in breakfast doesn't have afternoon staff? It's from auckland? If that's the general consensis of listeners surely MED would have an understanding of this YEARS ago?

How come MED don't do their own survey's and not of broadcasting listenership activities, but to gain a general public idea of what they expect to hear on their radio or what it's ture value to the listener would be?

Man if you got to this part of this email you must like reading novels... it's getting rather long lol c ya.

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#978 From: "Gavin Stephens" <kiwi_rock@...>
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 6:10 am
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I couldn't agree more for the person who mentioned getting in to other areas and having no relavant service to the area.

Some background on our 8 month operation so far...

Things we do as far as service to our community, our community notice board has around 50 messages of which we read about 11-15 of per hour over the hour period. In the 8 months we've been going here we must have at least 1,800+ notices collected that have received around $2-300 of free publicity. Lost and founds, buy sell and exchange which you don't even get these simple services even on dunedin city only radio. We suppliment IRN news with 3 minutes of local news and sports every half hour in breakfast, we highlight anyone and not just large public figure achievers. We do lots of live interviews with the likes of polititians, farming and health people, anything to do with local commerce and business or economic development, the local schools, such as rural polytech, high schools, and kids, not just grown ups. We do professional interviews with new business people and joe bloggs's new home hobby business card making etc free of charge, and people here LOVE it, they hear everything to do with them on the local radio station. We cover quite a few towns but they still consider us local because we don't talk about metro areas or what chrstina aguliera's up to.

We're proberly one of the very few local community stations around hevily involved with our own area... ie attending lots of business after 5 functions.. public events... MCing some events for people. Even though we don't have a license and MED are a huge pain in the arse regarding this for us, radioworks (canwest for those up north) can not stand in our path of programming, one major reason because they seem to think only pop music sells and nothign but wall to wall music and jocks that get their news from the top 50 charts... if that was the case TV2 and TV3 would only be playing the same repeat of shortland street every 4 hours or whatever radioworks minimum rotate is.

I wouldn't think we're out to be an empire either.... we don't want multiple channels, you can only be a real community station with one channel, besides, it's so easy when the rest of them are voice tracked crap from auckland or telling the weather forecast as their big deed to it's broadcast area.

There's a market for everything, and I think radioworks and trn have the right to be there, but they don't have the right to be the bandwidth police for anti-competitiveness. What peeve's me the most is the need for lobbying against the government and it's broadcasting departments, if they MED employee's (not you Andrew you're a nice fella and respect your input in the ministry) had people working for it from the broadcast sector, the public not private such as access radio, local community commercials etc... then maybe something will happen. Hell I also agree with that other comment!!!!!!!!!!! as far as engineering fee's for some other bugger to own it! I think half that engineering stuff is BS, surly with the amount of channels in use these days if there's one available at the same location at an exsisting one, it should be instantly issued for the same power and polorisation? There's no excuse for it not to be, that doesn't take scientific calcutations surely? It's not like RSM go and check it out on the site it's self, they type away on their computers and tax money already pays their wages.

We can lobby and lobby and lobby, and radioworks (canwest for those up north) will only spend more money and money and money to keep things as is. Anyone noticed the amount of people that still think there's someone really there on the other side of the radio, otherwise what good is it to me? They don't realise it's litterly all off computer not just music! Or the local radio station that seems to only do local weather in breakfast doesn't have afternoon staff? It's from auckland? If that's the general consensis of listeners surely MED would have an understanding of this YEARS ago?

How come MED don't do their own survey's and not of broadcasting listenership activities, but to gain a general public idea of what they expect to hear on their radio or what it's ture value to the listener would be?

Man if you got to this part of this email you must like reading novels... it's getting rather long lol c ya.

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#977 From: "Pulse FM!" <mail@...>
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Yes, I believe you're right!

Sorry about that. It changed later to 1161.

Bryan.

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I remember 2ZM used to be on 1130Khz I used to play with my parents radiogram all night! Michael
Pulse FM! <mail@...> wrote:

Hi Ross,

Just thought you might be interested...

2XW - Radio Windy was 890kHz

2ZB - 2ZB was 980 kHz

2ZM - 1160 2ZM was 1160kHz.

Cheers,

Bryan.

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Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 12:42 PM

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I remember as a kid listening to a Wellington station Radio Windy (in Tauranga) in the evening before they changed to 9khz steps and got too close to our local station. I think they were on somewhere around 960khz. In the 10khz separation days, I also use to listen to 2SM in Sydney as clear as a bell most nights. Those were the days.

Ross.

Michael and Ross wrote:

In Auckland the Hamilton ones blast in especially 89.8,94.6 and 98.6 they all play the same stuff as the local ones here and is a waste of the band-even Tainui FM overides on the Southern motorway blocking Red FM even as close as Greenlane.

The ZM in Wellington must face south to get into Blenhiem as its almost impossible to get 90.9 in Wanganui let alone the 93.5 repeater even years ago when 91ZM was one of the only FM stations in Wellington in the days when 2ZM went off the air on 1161kHz.

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#976 From: Michael and Ross <alnairgrus@...>
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I remember 2ZM used to be on 1130Khz I used to play with my parents radiogram all night! Michael

Pulse FM! <mail@...> wrote:

Hi Ross,

Just thought you might be interested...

2XW - Radio Windy was 890kHz

2ZB - 2ZB was 980 kHz

2ZM - 1160 2ZM was 1160kHz.

Cheers,

Bryan.

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From: Ross Levis

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Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 12:42 PM

Subject: Re: [LPFM] ERP

I remember as a kid listening to a Wellington station Radio Windy (in Tauranga) in the evening before they changed to 9khz steps and got too close to our local station. I think they were on somewhere around 960khz. In the 10khz separation days, I also use to listen to 2SM in Sydney as clear as a bell most nights. Those were the days.

Ross.

Michael and Ross wrote:

In Auckland the Hamilton ones blast in especially 89.8,94.6 and 98.6 they all play the same stuff as the local ones here and is a waste of the band-even Tainui FM overides on the Southern motorway blocking Red FM even as close as Greenlane.

The ZM in Wellington must face south to get into Blenhiem as its almost impossible to get 90.9 in Wanganui let alone the 93.5 repeater even years ago when 91ZM was one of the only FM stations in Wellington in the days when 2ZM went off the air on 1161kHz.

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#975 From: "Pulse FM!" <mail@...>
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Good idea,

However, I think you'll find AM tansmission is a ton more expensive than FM transmission, considering the wavelength it operates at - which is why they use such big towers.

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I liked it when 2XM Radio Massey in Palmy was on 1269kHz in the early 80's-it was very weak 0.1kW I think.

Other weak ones was 1ZT 1380,2ZH Hawera 1560,3ZO Twizel I think was 1390?-Could they use AM for LP? providing under 100 watts or so as they share AM now especially close ones like Rhema on 540Khz in Tauranga and New Plymouth and 702 Khz for Pacific Auckland and ZB Rotorua.(1ZN has been shared for years with Radio Northland but I think its separated due to ZB on 1026 now)

Theres others they used over the years like Counties Radio(Ak) once used 2ZE's freq of 1539 which is Blenheims.People in Seddon would'nt hear Counties for instance so it could be used like FM but with furthur limits.

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#974 From: Michael and Ross <alnairgrus@...>
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I liked it when 2XM Radio Massey in Palmy was on 1269kHz in the early 80's-it was very weak 0.1kW I think.

Other weak ones was 1ZT 1380,2ZH Hawera 1560,3ZO Twizel I think was 1390?-Could they use AM for LP? providing under 100 watts or so as they share AM now especially close ones like Rhema on 540Khz in Tauranga and New Plymouth and 702 Khz for Pacific Auckland and ZB Rotorua.(1ZN has been shared for years with Radio Northland but I think its separated due to ZB on 1026 now)

Theres others they used over the years like Counties Radio(Ak) once used 2ZE's freq of 1539 which is Blenheims.People in Seddon would'nt hear Counties for instance so it could be used like FM but with furthur limits.

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#973 From: "Pulse FM!" <mail@...>
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To confirm,

2ZC - Bay City Radio, Napier was 1280 (changed to 1278);

2ZK - Apple Radio, Hastings was 730 (changed to 765) which interestingly enough broadcasted locally between 6am - 5pm, then switched to the Concert programme until midnight, when it then switched to the ZM allnighter until 6am again. Talk about diverse programming! It later had it's local hours extended from 6am - 7pm thus cutting back the Concert feed by 2 hours per day. I believe 4ZG in Gore had similar programming too around the same time.

Yep, those truly were the days of steam-driven radio!

Cheers,

Bryan.

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Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 1:10 PM

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Ross, Windy was on 1080 originally then it moved to 890 then 891-2ZB was on 980 before it moved to 1035-I used to listen to 2ZB and Windy.Your interference must been 1YZ as it was on 860Khz(I think).
2SM wouldve been on 1270 so Napier wouldnt interfer on 1280 in Tauranga.
1ZD Tauranga was on 1000Khz-It used to have a terrible hetrodyne when the TV was on.
Michael
I remember as a kid listening to a Wellington station Radio Windy (in Tauranga) in the evening before they changed to 9khz steps and got too close to our local station. I think they were on somewhere around 960khz. In the 10khz separation days, I also use to listen to 2SM in Sydney as clear as a bell most nights. Those were the days.

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#972 From: Michael and Ross <alnairgrus@...>
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Ross, Windy was on 1080 originally then it moved to 890 then 891-2ZB was on 980 before it moved to 1035-I used to listen to 2ZB and Windy.Your interference must been 1YZ as it was on 860Khz(I think).

2SM wouldve been on 1270 so Napier wouldnt interfer on 1280 in Tauranga.

1ZD Tauranga was on 1000Khz-It used to have a terrible hetrodyne when the TV was on.

Michael

I remember as a kid listening to a Wellington station Radio Windy (in Tauranga) in the evening before they changed to 9khz steps and got too close to our local station. I think they were on somewhere around 960khz. In the 10khz separation days, I also use to listen to 2SM in Sydney as clear as a bell most nights. Those were the days.

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#971 From: "Pulse FM!" <mail@...>
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Hi Ross,

Just thought you might be interested...

2XW - Radio Windy was 890kHz

2ZB - 2ZB was 980 kHz

2ZM - 1160 2ZM was 1160kHz.

Cheers,

Bryan.

----- Original Message -----

From: Ross Levis

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Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 12:42 PM

Subject: Re: [LPFM] ERP

I remember as a kid listening to a Wellington station Radio Windy (in Tauranga) in the evening before they changed to 9khz steps and got too close to our local station. I think they were on somewhere around 960khz. In the 10khz separation days, I also use to listen to 2SM in Sydney as clear as a bell most nights. Those were the days.

Ross.

Michael and Ross wrote:

In Auckland the Hamilton ones blast in especially 89.8,94.6 and 98.6 they all play the same stuff as the local ones here and is a waste of the band-even Tainui FM overides on the Southern motorway blocking Red FM even as close as Greenlane.

The ZM in Wellington must face south to get into Blenhiem as its almost impossible to get 90.9 in Wanganui let alone the 93.5 repeater even years ago when 91ZM was one of the only FM stations in Wellington in the days when 2ZM went off the air on 1161kHz.

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#970 From: Ross Levis <ross@...>
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In Auckland the Hamilton ones blast in especially 89.8,94.6 and 98.6 they all play the same stuff as the local ones here and is a waste of the band-even Tainui FM overides on the Southern motorway blocking Red FM even as close as Greenlane.

The ZM in Wellington must face south to get into Blenhiem as its almost impossible to get 90.9 in Wanganui let alone the 93.5 repeater even years ago when 91ZM was one of the only FM stations in Wellington in the days when 2ZM went off the air on 1161kHz.

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#969 From: Bryan Heath <bryan_heath@...>
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Hi Micheal,
Not sure of ZM's radiation footprint, but perhaps they don't need 90.9 to
get into Wanganui as their 90.6 frequency from Wharite (Palmy Nth - 10kW)
does adequately. This frequency also actually 'services' Wanganui with local
information, ad's, etc too.
The stations that make it to Blenheim from Wellington - solely as a result
of their power are:

* 90.9 - 91ZM
* 92.5 - Concert (served locally also)
* 94.1 - The Breeze
* 100.0 - More FM (slightly lower powered than the others)
It should be noted that none of these stations provide any local input to
Blenheim - all completely Wellington - with the notable exception of Concert
who are networked anyway.
It's these high powered stations that really have no need for their huge
power, and in my opinion (for what it's worth) should be either wound back,
or forced to provide local content on these frequencies to the outlying
centres that are well within their broadcast reach.
BTW... While I'm based in Wellington, I have family in Blenheim who keep me
up to date with such events.
Cheers,
Bryan.

In Auckland the Hamilton ones blast in especially 89.8,94.6 and 98.6 they
all play the same stuff as the local ones here and is a waste of the
band-even Tainui FM overides on the Southern motorway blocking Red FM even
as close as Greenlane.
The ZM in Wellington must face south to get into Blenhiem as its almost
impossible to get 90.9 in Wanganui let alone the 93.5 repeater even years
ago when 91ZM was one of the only FM stations in Wellington in the days when
2ZM went off the air on 1161kHz.
Michael

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Date: Wed Feb 19, 2003 9:20 pm
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In Auckland the Hamilton ones blast in especially 89.8,94.6 and 98.6 they all play the same stuff as the local ones here and is a waste of the band-even Tainui FM overides on the Southern motorway blocking Red FM even as close as Greenlane.

The ZM in Wellington must face south to get into Blenhiem as its almost impossible to get 90.9 in Wanganui let alone the 93.5 repeater even years ago when 91ZM was one of the only FM stations in Wellington in the days when 2ZM went off the air on 1161kHz.

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#967 From: Bryan Heath <bryan_heath@...>
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This also brings up another issue...

Why should stations be granted with 10kW licenses to cover a local
geographic territory?

I pick up the point below that "...it was to stop some other stations from
another island from being tuned into.".

I know that the likes of TRN/Canwest own these frequencies knowing full
well that their power allows tham into smaller provincial centres too. For
instance, 91ZM here in Wellington (10kW) gets well into Blenheim too, yet
do nothing in the way of service to that community. No ad's, weather,
nothing. Surely, they (and others like them) should have their power
pulled back to cover only the immediate area of service, in this case,
Wellington, unless they agree to adequately provide service to these areas
as well.

This would also help greatly to eliminate things like inter-modulation,
which causes stations to 'appear' in more than one place on some radio
dials in major centres - sometimes on LPFM frequencies, too!

Cheers,
Bryan.

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Hi Guys,
The buying up of freq. is not limited to the large players.

Even in provincial centers there prevails a type of monopoly.

In my own nearest town (pop 25000) there are I beleive 8 fm freq.
alloccated. A radio works station owns 1 and a private company owns the
rest with only 2 stations being operated.
In the last tender round they paid a huge sum for a relativaly low output
freq. in order I believe to stop any one else from using it.
They certainly are not.

The last time I had an RI visit me he was about to visit this company to
check why they were taking up such a large portion of the band
You could recieve them a full 3 mhz either side of the carrier freq.

Call me paranoid but I could suppose that it was to stop some other
stations from another island from being tuned into.

These guys have in the past even threatened me with legal action in an
attempt to stop me from building any more lpfm stations for people.
It's not just reserved for the 3 big players it seems that it is a game
that any with money to spend play.
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Hi Guys,

The buying up of freq. is not limited to the large players.

Even in provincial centers there prevails a type of monopoly.

In my own nearest town (pop 25000) there are I beleive 8 fm freq. alloccated. A radio works station owns 1 and a private company owns the rest with only 2 stations being operated.

In the last tender round they paid a huge sum for a relativaly low output freq. in order I believe to stop any one else from using it.

They certainly are not.

The last time I had an RI visit me he was about to visit this company to check why they were taking up such a large portion of the band

You could recieve them a full 3 mhz either side of the carrier freq.

Call me paranoid but I could suppose that it was to stop some other stations from another island from being tuned into.

These guys have in the past even threatened me with legal action in an attempt to stop me from building any more lpfm stations for people.

It's not just reserved for the 3 big players it seems that it is a game that any with money to spend play.

M.B.D

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Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 10:18 PM

Subject: Re: [LPFM] Triopoly

Hi Gavin

The "use or lose it" philosophy may be coming back into favour at the moment. The current Minister (Steve Maharey) is of the mind that the total commercialisation of broadcasting may not be the answer to all of our community needs, particularly where companies (like CanWest) will buy frequencies to shut out any competition.

The real stumbling block is that the policy areas in the Ministry are still dominated by "market forces" people, which means that only one message is given to the Minister and the public. Some vocal public support for the concept of community radio is long overdue.

Cheers

Andrew

PS The MED building is so full of round tuits that you can barely move for them. Luckily they can be stepped around by following our own policies. A step to the right, of course!! (NEVER step to the LEFT)

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Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 5:42 PM

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I can see two simple rules for the king pins to keep them under control.

1) Use it or loose it

2) Anyone can apply for a freq to require public notification or 3 months notice before being able to bid for it as apposed to having when we get around to it auctions from the ministry.

Does RSM have a round tuit on the wall yet?

Gavin.

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Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 9:35 PM

Subject: Re: [LPFM] Triopoly

Not bad for a "non-commercial" service!

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Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:46 AM

Subject: [LPFM] Triopoly

The Rhema Group is the 3rd monopoly -they "own" tons of frequencies and lease lots and lots of the ERP is so strong they penetrate other markets-ie 94.6 Life FM is stronger in parts of Auckland than some Auckland Stations.
Michael
In the past, the Commerce Commission have been fairly happy with a duopoly(2 players),

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