Hi all. We went to the Qld wei show yesterday, it was a very
interesting day, and good to see so many weis all at once. Lara came
first in her class and showed really well for Gary so we were pleased
with her, the judge said she was only beaten on age for the
challenge. Mo won his class and got reserve challenge dog, was lucky
to even get that far considering how badly he showed, he does'nt want
to do it now, and I don't care enough about showing to make him! More
interested in obedience for him now. We have never been to a
specialty show so I was very surprised whne his name was called at
the end when the trophies were being given out.They must have thought
I was a complete idiot when I said "what?, but he didnt get anywhere"
Apparently even reserve challenge gets a trophy and ribbon, and a
very nice ribbon it is too. The best part of the day was at the end
when we went to Carol Thompsons place to look at these puppies. We
were only looking, honestly, but he was just too beautiful, can't
believe he was'nt snapped up earlier. So we came home with the
shorthaired boy who is going to be called Remy. I must be
certifiable! 7 weis. But with Claudia gone Gary had nothing
shorthaired to show, and we really prefer boys. Buck likes him
already, so thats good, the others will get introduced gradually. I
love this pups personality, he did'nt cringe at all when Buck growled
initially, just looked at him. Well its no fun to growl at something
that does'nt react, so Buck has'nt done it again. Go Remy! Thanks so
much Carol, for trusting us with this gorgeous boy. Must get a USB
port on this computer now so I can post photos!

Hey ruth
Just joking that someone trained her I do believe you. I think you are right,
Kimba has stopped bothering retrieving now cos sash is so must competition on
the stick. Cloud is so smart she probably didnt bother either with all the
competition. I will be flabbergasted if she does swim I can tell you. She is a
lovely girl but very muddy tonite.
cheers ingrid


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> Honestly Ingrid, we never trained her to retrieve, but she watched the others
doing it enough. Maybe she just did'nt bother because we had 3 including her son
who are faster and who would have taken it off her if she got it anyway. She has
never been to a beach in her life, but definately will not go in the dam where
the others swim, so I'll be very interested to hear how that goes.
>
> bill albion <billalbion@...> wrote:hey ruth
> she is great. She has a beautiful nature and licks all the others and always
tries to play. She is so playful. Sash was really cross that Cloud loves to
fetch too and rushes down to beat her to it. Misty couldnt care less about
fetching!!! Clouds brother Hunta is exactly the same. WE have a wei day at our
place this weekend and hopefully flyball demo and tracking demo and I am hoping
that Hunta will show em all how to fetch.
> I cant believe she didnt fetch for you, cos she even brings the stick back so
someone must have trained her..she craves company and loves her turn inside on
the couch.She is as muddy as anything at the moment (they all are, roll on
summer). I will have to take her down the beach next and see if you were joshing
me about the swimming too....
> thanks for sending her back. She is so like Misty and a bit like ruschka to
look at.
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Honestly Ingrid, we never trained her to retrieve, but she watched the others
doing it enough. Maybe she just did'nt bother because we had 3 including her son
who are faster and who would have taken it off her if she got it anyway. She has
never been to a beach in her life, but definately will not go in the dam where
the others swim, so I'll be very interested to hear how that goes.

bill albion <billalbion@...> wrote:hey ruth
she is great. She has a beautiful nature and licks all the others and always
tries to play. She is so playful. Sash was really cross that Cloud loves to
fetch too and rushes down to beat her to it. Misty couldnt care less about
fetching!!! Clouds brother Hunta is exactly the same. WE have a wei day at our
place this weekend and hopefully flyball demo and tracking demo and I am hoping
that Hunta will show em all how to fetch.
I cant believe she didnt fetch for you, cos she even brings the stick back so
someone must have trained her..she craves company and loves her turn inside on
the couch.She is as muddy as anything at the moment (they all are, roll on
summer). I will have to take her down the beach next and see if you were joshing
me about the swimming too....
thanks for sending her back. She is so like Misty and a bit like ruschka to look
at.
cheers Ingrid


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she is great. She has a beautiful nature and licks all the others and always
tries to play. She is so playful. Sash was really cross that Cloud loves to
fetch too and rushes down to beat her to it. Misty couldnt care less about
fetching!!! Clouds brother Hunta is exactly the same. WE have a wei day at our
place this weekend and hopefully flyball demo and tracking demo and I am hoping
that Hunta will show em all how to fetch.
I cant believe she didnt fetch for you, cos she even brings the stick back so
someone must have trained her..she craves company and loves her turn inside on
the couch.She is as muddy as anything at the moment (they all are, roll on
summer). I will have to take her down the beach next and see if you were joshing
me about the swimming too....
thanks for sending her back. She is so like Misty and a bit like ruschka to look
at.
cheers Ingrid


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Yes Ingrid she has settled in well... And she certainly did Love
fetching the sticks didn't she.. It was great seeing them all playing
in the paddock together... can't wait to get her in the ring...
Cheers for now Maree

Hi everyone
check out our new girl. I put a photo of her on the site. She is a
shorthair but still she does carry the longhair gene. Her name is
Cloud Grausturm Hearts Afire. She just came back to us this weekend
and we are looking forward to seeing her in the ring.
She has a lovely nature and loves to fetch sticks and sleep on the
couch. I own her mum Misty and Misty has taken her back under her
wing.
Ingrid

Lovely pups
What a star your shorthair blue boy is!!!
Next I think I like no collar LH and pink LH and then black LH and
they are all close, then purple then red.
Looking forward to seeing them all grown up.
Cheers Ingrid

Very nice Carol. Just from the photos I like the black collar boy,
and the pink collar girl, but my favourite is the short haired boy.
What have you decided to keep? Ruth.

Thanks Allyson. Mo had his trial last weekend. he failed along with every one
else in novice, it was blowing a gale and all dogs performed badly. Mo would not
do his drops at all, and lagged a little on the heel free. he was O.K on his
recall, just lost a few points for hesitating, and his stands were perfect. he
WAS in second place in actual fact, until the stay excercises. His 1 minute sit
was fine, but he still did'nt want to drop.When he did he turned to face the lab
next to him because he did'nt like the german shepherd on the other side. I
should have left it at that, but NO I had to make him lie straight did'nt I. He
stayed there for about 5 seconds, I was so annoyed, even Jerri never broke a
stay.Guess it would have been alot worse if he had been on a qualifying score.
oh well theres another one next month.

Allyson_Tohmé <ALLYSON.TOHME@...> wrote:Teaching a dog to focus is behind
all exercises and disciplines.  It
has to be trained for like everything else in incremental steps.

Just like stays etc the dog must learn that it is rewarding to look
at you or concentrate on the exercise; the alternative is no reward;
thus what how you reinforce the desired behaviour is very important
as the dog may find that not focusing is more rewarding!

I specifically teach my dog and others to focus on the handler
whatever the distraction and build up distractions and heavily
reward those that are ignored.

If your dog is very easily distracted then it demonstrates that the
handler is either very boring (sorry) or the dog may be stressed and
exhibiting "avoidance" behaviours.

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Teaching a dog to focus is behind all exercises and disciplines.  It
has to be trained for like everything else in incremental steps.

Just like stays etc the dog must learn that it is rewarding to look
at you or concentrate on the exercise; the alternative is no reward;
thus what how you reinforce the desired behaviour is very important
as the dog may find that not focusing is more rewarding!

I specifically teach my dog and others to focus on the handler
whatever the distraction and build up distractions and heavily
reward those that are ignored.

If your dog is very easily distracted then it demonstrates that the
handler is either very boring (sorry) or the dog may be stressed and
exhibiting "avoidance" behaviours.

Not sure if that helps?

Hi,
I'm trying to upload pics of the babies but yahoo won't acknowledge the group. 
Can anyone help?
Thanks
Carol

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Thanks, any hints as to how to get him to concentrate would be good. He has the
ability to do every excercise to almost perfection, but can't concentrate for a
whole trial, he gets distracted by the smallest thing, kids yelling, birds
flying by e.t.c. I just wondered if I was going the wrong way about it trying
for the obedience title first.

Allyson_Tohmé <ALLYSON.TOHME@...> wrote:Hi, I meant obedience as a separate
discipline as opposed to
obedience training.

In the UK we have several competitive disciplines:

Agility
Flyball
Working Trials
Obedience
Schutzhund
Field Trials
Showing

Competitive obedience is of an extremely high standard and dominated
by Border Collies.

Concentration has to be built up gradually and this had to be
developed through focus and developing the "want" either by food or
play.

Not sure if that helps or if you want some specific help in
developing these?

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Hi, I meant obedience as a separate discipline as opposed to
obedience training.

In the UK we have several competitive disciplines:

Agility
Flyball
Working Trials
Obedience
Schutzhund
Field Trials
Showing

Competitive obedience is of an extremely high standard and dominated
by Border Collies.

Concentration has to be built up gradually and this had to be
developed through focus and developing the "want" either by food or
play.

Not sure if that helps or if you want some specific help in
developing these?

regards

I have a question for Allyson. I noticed you said obedience is the
next thing to add to Twiggys list of achievements. How did you get
her to do all that other stuff if you did'nt obedience train her
first? I'm only asking because I would like to do tracking with Mo,
but can't even get him to concentrate long enough to get through an
obedience trial yet.any thoughts would be appreciated.

Twiggy (aka Fursdon Twylyte Tramontano BH CDex UDex WDex TDex)has
qualified CDex UDex WDex TDex in Working Trials, winning all her
open trials (beating those pesky Border Collies and German
Shepherds) :D

She is also the first Weimaraner in the UK to qualify Begleithunde
in Schutzhund.

She has also been placed in gundog test of work, agility
competitions, has bronze, silver and gold Kennel Club Good Citizens
Test.

Twiggy is a registered PAT (Pets as Therapy) Dog as well and was the
first weimaraner to be invited to participate in the National
Superdog Competition (only 8 dogs invited from the whole country) we
came 6th.

She has also won at Open and Championship Shows and is Crufts
qualified for life.

Our next discipline is obedience I hope.

At the moment she is my only weimaraner, but I have had 3 others.

Hi Allyson... Wow ..how proud are you.. lets hope thy make it thru all the
processes and obedience they have to do to become a Guide dog..  I have
never heard of a weim being chosen for this.. Great news.. So tell us of all
of your exciting qualifications that your girl has... Also what other weims
have you??? Cheers from Maree.

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From: Weimaraner_Longhaired@...
Date: 06/09/04 01:56:29
To: Weimaraner_Longhaired@...
Subject: [Weimaraner_Longhaired] Intro

Hi I am Allyson Tohmé found out about this group via Weimaraner
World.

I currently own one longhaired bitch who is the most highly
qualified weimaraner (LH or SH) in the UK.

The most exciting news is that her litter sister has just had two of
her puppies chosen by the Guide Dogs for the Blind Association; this
is the first time that a Weimaraner has been selected for this
purpose in the UK and as far as I am aware there have been no others
in the world?

regards




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Hi Ruth,



Thanks for your warm welcome, I will look in the map if I have time. And
will place some pics there then.



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Welcome Sylvia, glad you found us. Why don't you put your pics in a
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Hy Allyson,



Welcome here on the list.
I heard it about the Weimaraners who will be trained as Guide dogs.

So that is family of you that will be trained.



Our trainer here from the retrieving training works at the Blind association
here in Holland, so I heard it from him.



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Hi I am Allyson Tohmé found out about this group via Weimaraner
World.

I currently own one longhaired bitch who is the most highly
qualified weimaraner (LH or SH) in the UK.

The most exciting news is that her litter sister has just had two of
her puppies chosen by the Guide Dogs for the Blind Association; this
is the first time that a Weimaraner has been selected for this
purpose in the UK and as far as I am aware there have been no others
in the world?

regards




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Hi I am Allyson Tohmé found out about this group via Weimaraner
World.

I currently own one longhaired bitch who is the most highly
qualified weimaraner (LH or SH) in the UK.

The most exciting news is that her litter sister has just had two of
her puppies chosen by the Guide Dogs for the Blind Association; this
is the first time that a Weimaraner has been selected for this
purpose in the UK and as far as I am aware there have been no others
in the world?

regards

Welcome Sylvia, glad you found us. Why don't you put your pics in a
photo album so we can see them. Its pretty easy, if I can do it
anyone can! Ruth.

Hi Sylvia,
To put up pictures, you need to go to the home page of the group (the address is
at the bottom of each message) and set up an album. There are a few there
already of other members' dogs. The group is set up not to accept attachments
due to the risk of viruses.
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It doesn't work, to send pictures isn't allowed in this group. So I'm sorry.

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There were pictures in my email, but I see that they are gone now...



But here they are again which I sended.



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Welcome to our little group. Your messages didn't go straight to the
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Hello Sylvia,
Welcome to our little group. Your messages didn't go straight to the
group, because it is set so that the first message from each person
comes to me first & then is accepted. This is just to stop people
who might not be so nice from sending nasty messages that everyone
in the group would get. I didn't get to check my email any sooner as
I was at a show.
Nice to hear from you, looking forward to maybe some pictures?????
Wendy

I hope this will work this way.

I saw the address for the longhair Weimaraner group and thought, that is a
list where I must be member of, I have 2 Longhairs myself.


I am Sylvia and live in Holland.

We have 4 Weimaraners 2 shorthairs and 2 longhairs.



You can see a lot of them on our website http://www.weimaranersite.nl
<http://www.weimaranersite.nl/>



I hope this will be enough.



Sylvia (Holland)

http://www.weimaranersite.nl <http://www.weimaranersite.nl/>



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Hi,



I’m new here in the list and shall introduce myself.

I think there will be people who allready know me, but for the ones who
don’t know me….



I’m Sylvia, 27 years old and living in Holland.

I’m (together with my boyfriend) the owner of 4 Weimaraners.

I will introduce them you personal.



Lara, Shorthair bith 3 ½ years old. If everything goes fine with her season
she will be mated in October.





Bo-ghy, Longhair male, almost 3 years old.





And then we have Shena, Lonhair bitch, 1 ½ years old now.





And then the last one, Vidar, shorthair male (carrier of longhair) 9 months
old now.





We train them in all ways of the hunting, retrieving, fieldwork,
blodtracking etc.



Well I think you will know enough now, if you want to ask something please
feel free to ask.


Sylvia (Holland)

http://www.weimaranersite.nl <http://www.weimaranersite.nl/>



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Hi everyone,
it seemed so quiet in this forum I decided I should add a message.
It is great to see that there will be some exciting new longhair
litters out there. I hope you are all planning on coming to the
national in 2005. It would be great to have a big longhair turn out.
I think they were still looking for some pledges for trophies. the
contact was jeaneane short on dshort@...
I think it was just longhair trophies they were still seeking pledges
for and maybe some trial trophies.
anyway cheers for now
ingrid

Welcome Carol, can't wait to see the new babies in the ring. Ruth.

kadma <weimaraner@...> wrote:Hello everyone,
For those who don't know me my name is Carol Thompson. I have been involved in
owning, breeding and showing Weimaraners for the last 27 years.  My venture in
to the longhairs came mainly because of my daughter Aimee who loves grooming and
wanted something with more coat.  Four years ago I purchased Boo (Aust Ch
Goldmaid Hairy Tale) from Debbie Meagher.  Boo was the result of a father
daughter mating.  S: Aust Gr Ch Clayco Boston Celtic and Aust Gr Ch Kadma Zulu
Sky.  Boos daughter Piper (Aust Ch Kadma Itsa Bito Magic) was Challenge Bitch
Best of Breed and Puppy in Group at Brisbane Royal 2002.
I also leased Aust Ch Apamura Caught Inthe Act and bred her to Aust Gr Ch Kadma
Red Hot Rumours and kept Phoebe (Aust Ch Kadma Sleepn Wthe Enemy).  I have just
produced my first litter with longhairs S: Boo to D: Phoebe. 2LH Boys 2 SH Boys
2 LH girls 1 SH girl.  It is a busy time here at Kadma with Piper also having
babies to Fable (Aust Ch Kadma Totally Obsessed).  I am also a veterinary nurse
and specialise in the reproductive side of dogs as well as doing canine massage
and manipulation.
I am quite excited about the fuzzies (and of course the non-fuzzies) and hope to
keep a LH girl.
Thanks,
Carol
Carol Thompson
Kadma Weimaraners and Longhair Weimaraners
weimaraner@...
www.kadma.com.au


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