Hi Cheryl,

I sent you a private e-mail.  Please watch for it.  These days you can never be
sure what gets caught in spam filters etc...

Tonya


----- Original Message ----
From: Cheryl <snowydiamonds@...>
To: Weimaraner_Longhaired@...
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2007 3:51:58 PM
Subject: [Weimaraner_Longhaired] Re: New Member

Tonya!!! Dusty was the one I would have chosen!!! Well, I really
would have taken all three if someone would have allowed it at
Heartland;) The goldens are my adult children's dogs, but I'm in
their lives, daily:)

The goldens do prefer my younger weims stay at my cabin but they
tolerate the weims visiting at their house, too. Its just that the
weims take over everything, come in at a great pace, scout out the
surroundings, immediately take whatever recreation bones they feel are
the best, jump onto the love seat and the couch, totally making
themselves at home and the goldens kind of look resigned to just wait
out the visit.

When we get to our cabin, the weims give a great big sigh;) Like it
was such an satisfying effort to visit the middle aged (2) and elderly
(2) goldens but it was worth the effort and they are so satisfied to
be home again, mission accomplished: ) LOL! The young adults kind of
feel the same towards my weims as their dogs feel, too;)

But when we are out in the field, goldens and weims feel "in their
element" and everyone is near and dear to hearts, love is in the
heart, "This is what we were bred for, YEAH! Isn't life grand?!"

I do curtail the daily visits in the winter when its too cold to
safely take the weims out much so the goldens seem happier then about
the fewer visits, LOL. Its kind of a hard time for them as my adult
children are not doing so much w/their goldens as they used to so I
take up the slack and remind them they are still loved and cherished.

My goal for the future is to take elderly weims from rescue to bask in
the sunshine on a full sized futon/couch/ bed in the southern bay
window, with miles of countryside to watch out the window, slow romps
in that wide open territory, or walks, and a warm stove nearby the bay
window in the winters...six weims would fit nicely, but it won't be
for a while yet as my 4 weims are 4,3,2,and Boris will be one in Dec.

I'm so happy Dusty/Harry has come into our lives again!!! Great big
HUGS to you and he! Welcome HOME! WOW, such a small world, as big as
it is...Cheryl in Alaska





      
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http://www.itsfortheanimals.com/DODDS-BEHV-THYROID.HTM This also
helped me w/Slade, Misty Rose and ^Ducky^ - it took a lot of reading,
looking at the different symptoms, joining 3 different groups that
deal w/health compromised canines and doubting myself...3 years!

Cheryl, Slade, Misty Rose, Bully (SH) & Boris LH, weims in Alaska
>

www.itsfortheanimals.com    This is where I found a lot of
information and began sorting out that both my two sh weims, Slade &
Misty Rose are hypothyroid and on lifelong soloxine.  At first the
only local vet didn't believe the link even when I printed copies for
him, he didn't read it and then little by little, as I became
determined to make more headway in a better life for Slade, then the
vet agreed to test but he only had an incomplete panel done which
showed "normal" so it took a bit longer and emotions, determination
and some prolonged health issue suffering to finally have the vet
agree to allow another redraw of blood, and to let me send the blood
on my own to HemoPet/Dr. Dodd's from Alaska to California.  Dr.
Dodd's has at least 45 years of her life dedicated to researching and
testing which I stressed to my vet, which is nearly his and my entire
life time.  It was very surprising to me that Misty Rose had
hypothyroid, too, as her only symptom was cold intolerance.  Slade
had many symptoms.  I was just reading more on line yesterday about
what he had-he has been symptom free except three bumps last fall,
and only breaks out now if fed corn products.  His hair on his sides
and belly has grown, not very thick but at least he's not hairless
any longer, and no more weeping, itchy sores.

I give him a teaspoon a day of near to local honey, along with no
corn, and his soloxine twice a day- I've been neglectful in that
recently as he's to have it 3 hours after dinner and we fall asleep
before then so I am trying to give it prior to their dinner, now.

Possibly your LH has not had a full and complete panel tested, and
keep in mind it can be tested again, twice a year or yearly.
Cheryl, Slade, Misty Rose, Bully (SH) & Boris LH weims in Alaska

Yes that should be ok......if you find it too strong dilute it down a
bit more.

Garlic it is always better to use fresh garlic. Put 2 cloves into a
garlic press and mix it into the food.

No problem always willing to give knowledge if it helps are hair
friends.

---- Original Message ----
From: be_gourmet@...
To: Weimaraner_Longhaired@...
Subject: RE: [Weimaraner_Longhaired] Dry skin
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:21:25 -0800 (PST)

>Thank you for your suggestions.  I wanted to clarify what "not too
>much" white vinegar might amount to?  Are you thinking about a cup of
>Vinegar to a gallon of water (about 7 litres)?
>
>  Do you feed the dogs garlic in capsule form - like we might use if
>we were taking supplemental garlic?  Or, are you putting in fresh raw
>garlic.  How much of either of these forms do you use?
>
>  I really appreciate that you took the time to respond to my
>questions.
>
>  Thank you so much!
>
>  Bonnie
>
>happylea@... wrote:
>          Hi Bonnie,
>You could try a couple of things.
>1. when you rinse Tully off in some warm water put some white
>vinegar...(not too much) and see if that gets rid of the dry skin.
>2. You can use a wool wash to wash him with this would help keep the
>fleas at bay. Also in his food put some garlic this will go through
>the skin and the fleas don't like it.
>
>---- Original Message ----
>From: be_gourmet@...
>To: Weimaraner_Longhaired@...
>Subject: [Weimaraner_Longhaired] Dry skin
>Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:14:09 -0000
>
>> My LH, Tully, has been suffering with very dry skin ever since we
>>received him (he is a rescue dog). His thyroid has been tested and
>>is fine. We have taken him off of foods containing corn. This has
>>stopped his licking at his paws and chewing at the base of his
>>tail. We do our very best to keep him flea-free with Front-line
>>(hard to do in a rural setting, with raccoons,squirrels,and assorted
>
>>vermin) and bathing. We are giving him fish oil capsules - two at
>>each feeding. There has been some improvement - the hair along his
>>back has filled in and is much softer than it was in October. But
>>the hair along his ribs and flanks is still extremely sparse (you
>>can see through to his skin at a glance). When I brush him, usually
>>every other day as he doesn't have a "show coat" to begin with, the
>>floor around him is white with doggy dandruff when brushing is
>>done. He still tends to scratch at his sides a lot.
>> Any further suggestions? I'll welcome any advice you can give.
>>Long-haired Weims are so uncommon around here, our veterinarian
>>didn't know there was such a thing (I think she is still doubtful he
>
>>is a purebred).
>> Thanks in advance for any and all help you can give.
>>
>>Bonnie
>>
>
>Deborah Neumann
>Happylea Kennel
>Home of Weimaraner's both long and short haired,
>Australian Kelpies, Jack Russells and Tibetan Spaniel.
>
>
>
>
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Deborah Neumann
Happylea Kennel
Home of Weimaraner's both long and short haired,
Australian Kelpies, Jack Russells and Tibetan Spaniel.

Thank you for your suggestions.  I wanted to clarify what "not too much" white
vinegar might amount to?  Are you thinking about a cup of Vinegar to a gallon of
water (about 7 litres)?

   Do you feed the dogs garlic in capsule form - like we might use if we were
taking supplemental garlic?  Or, are you putting in fresh raw garlic.  How much
of either of these forms do you use?

   I really appreciate that you took the time to respond to my questions.

   Thank you so much!

   Bonnie

happylea@... wrote:
           Hi Bonnie,
You could try a couple of things.
1. when you rinse Tully off in some warm water put some white
vinegar...(not too much) and see if that gets rid of the dry skin.
2. You can use a wool wash to wash him with this would help keep the
fleas at bay. Also in his food put some garlic this will go through
the skin and the fleas don't like it.

---- Original Message ----
From: be_gourmet@...
To: Weimaraner_Longhaired@...
Subject: [Weimaraner_Longhaired] Dry skin
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:14:09 -0000

> My LH, Tully, has been suffering with very dry skin ever since we
>received him (he is a rescue dog). His thyroid has been tested and
>is fine. We have taken him off of foods containing corn. This has
>stopped his licking at his paws and chewing at the base of his
>tail. We do our very best to keep him flea-free with Front-line
>(hard to do in a rural setting, with raccoons,squirrels,and assorted
>vermin) and bathing. We are giving him fish oil capsules - two at
>each feeding. There has been some improvement - the hair along his
>back has filled in and is much softer than it was in October. But
>the hair along his ribs and flanks is still extremely sparse (you
>can see through to his skin at a glance). When I brush him, usually
>every other day as he doesn't have a "show coat" to begin with, the
>floor around him is white with doggy dandruff when brushing is
>done. He still tends to scratch at his sides a lot.
> Any further suggestions? I'll welcome any advice you can give.
>Long-haired Weims are so uncommon around here, our veterinarian
>didn't know there was such a thing (I think she is still doubtful he
>is a purebred).
> Thanks in advance for any and all help you can give.
>
>Bonnie
>

Deborah Neumann
Happylea Kennel
Home of Weimaraner's both long and short haired,
Australian Kelpies, Jack Russells and Tibetan Spaniel.






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If you are giving FBO it is essential that you also supplement with
Vitamin E natural 400 iu per day.

Also Vitamin C is a natural antihistamine which may help

--- In Weimaraner_Longhaired@..., happylea@... wrote:
>
> Hi Bonnie,
> You could try a couple of things.
> 1. when you rinse Tully off in some warm water put some white
> vinegar...(not too much) and see if that gets rid of the dry skin.
> 2. You can use a wool wash to wash him with this would help keep the
> fleas at bay. Also in his food put some garlic this will go through
> the skin and the fleas don't like it.
>
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: be_gourmet@...
> To: Weimaraner_Longhaired@...
> Subject: [Weimaraner_Longhaired] Dry skin
> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:14:09 -0000
>
> >  My LH, Tully, has been suffering with very dry skin ever since
we
> >received him (he is a rescue dog).  His thyroid has been tested
and
> >is fine.  We have taken him off of foods containing corn.  This
has
> >stopped his licking at his paws and chewing at the base of his
> >tail.  We do our very best to keep him flea-free with Front-line
> >(hard to do in a rural setting, with raccoons,squirrels,and
assorted
> >vermin) and bathing.  We are giving him fish oil capsules - two at
> >each feeding.  There has been some improvement - the hair along
his
> >back has filled in and is much softer than it was in October.  But
> >the hair along his ribs and flanks is still extremely sparse (you
> >can see through to his skin at a glance).  When I brush him,
usually
> >every other day as he doesn't have a "show coat" to begin with,
the
> >floor around him is white with doggy dandruff when brushing is
> >done.  He still tends to scratch at his sides a lot.
> >  Any further suggestions?  I'll welcome any advice you can give.
> >Long-haired Weims are so uncommon around here, our veterinarian
> >didn't know there was such a thing (I think she is still doubtful
he
> >is a purebred).
> >  Thanks in advance for any and all help you can give.
> >
> >Bonnie
> >
>
> Deborah Neumann
> Happylea Kennel
> Home of Weimaraner's both long and short haired,
> Australian Kelpies, Jack Russells and Tibetan Spaniel.
>

Hi Bonnie,
You could try a couple of things.
1. when you rinse Tully off in some warm water put some white
vinegar...(not too much) and see if that gets rid of the dry skin.
2. You can use a wool wash to wash him with this would help keep the
fleas at bay. Also in his food put some garlic this will go through
the skin and the fleas don't like it.


---- Original Message ----
From: be_gourmet@...
To: Weimaraner_Longhaired@...
Subject: [Weimaraner_Longhaired] Dry skin
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:14:09 -0000

>  My LH, Tully, has been suffering with very dry skin ever since we
>received him (he is a rescue dog).  His thyroid has been tested and
>is fine.  We have taken him off of foods containing corn.  This has
>stopped his licking at his paws and chewing at the base of his
>tail.  We do our very best to keep him flea-free with Front-line
>(hard to do in a rural setting, with raccoons,squirrels,and assorted
>vermin) and bathing.  We are giving him fish oil capsules - two at
>each feeding.  There has been some improvement - the hair along his
>back has filled in and is much softer than it was in October.  But
>the hair along his ribs and flanks is still extremely sparse (you
>can see through to his skin at a glance).  When I brush him, usually
>every other day as he doesn't have a "show coat" to begin with, the
>floor around him is white with doggy dandruff when brushing is
>done.  He still tends to scratch at his sides a lot.
>  Any further suggestions?  I'll welcome any advice you can give.
>Long-haired Weims are so uncommon around here, our veterinarian
>didn't know there was such a thing (I think she is still doubtful he
>is a purebred).
>  Thanks in advance for any and all help you can give.
>
>Bonnie
>

Deborah Neumann
Happylea Kennel
Home of Weimaraner's both long and short haired,
Australian Kelpies, Jack Russells and Tibetan Spaniel.

My LH, Tully, has been suffering with very dry skin ever since we
received him (he is a rescue dog).  His thyroid has been tested and
is fine.  We have taken him off of foods containing corn.  This has
stopped his licking at his paws and chewing at the base of his
tail.  We do our very best to keep him flea-free with Front-line
(hard to do in a rural setting, with raccoons,squirrels,and assorted
vermin) and bathing.  We are giving him fish oil capsules - two at
each feeding.  There has been some improvement - the hair along his
back has filled in and is much softer than it was in October.  But
the hair along his ribs and flanks is still extremely sparse (you
can see through to his skin at a glance).  When I brush him, usually
every other day as he doesn't have a "show coat" to begin with, the
floor around him is white with doggy dandruff when brushing is
done.  He still tends to scratch at his sides a lot.
   Any further suggestions?  I'll welcome any advice you can give.
Long-haired Weims are so uncommon around here, our veterinarian
didn't know there was such a thing (I think she is still doubtful he
is a purebred).
   Thanks in advance for any and all help you can give.

Bonnie

Congratulations sandra
He is certainly a stunning dog and he is getting a lot of great comments from
people including macs owners in america! Very very typy!
Cheers Ingrid


On Monday, January 21, 2008 at 10:13:50 PM,
Weimaraner_Longhaired@... wrote:

> That's fantastic, Sandra!  He is a very handsome boy. Make sure you enter him
on the Dogz Online pointscore, he'll be leading LH male, I think!!! Great day
for the furry Grausturms. How did the regulars go?
>
>   There haven't been that many LHs in NSW being shown since we've had them,
either. I think we are down to three. Possibly two. I don't know why they are
not more popular. WE all know they are fabulous, don't we!?!
>
>   Wendy
>
> sharwei67 <sharwei@...> wrote:
>           Hello Longie Lovers
> On Saturday at the Gundog Club of Tasmania show Judged by Lainie Knox
> the furry results were:
> Grausturm Miss Hilton (Paris)Best of breed 10 points (There are
> currently 5 or 6 longhairs being shown which is the most I have seen
> here in the 4 years I've been involved in showing)
> Grausturm Jack O Hearts (Grady)RUIB 8 points
>
> Unfortunately a Lab got Runner Up In Show and Junior in show and
> eliminated Paris. Grady went on to get State Bred in Show. Thanks
> must go to Maree Pledger for making him look stunning and standing out
> in the line up.
>
> >From his proud furry mum,
> Sandra
>
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That's fantastic, Sandra!  He is a very handsome boy. Make sure you enter him on
the Dogz Online pointscore, he'll be leading LH male, I think!!! Great day for
the furry Grausturms. How did the regulars go?

   There haven't been that many LHs in NSW being shown since we've had them,
either. I think we are down to three. Possibly two. I don't know why they are
not more popular. WE all know they are fabulous, don't we!?!

   Wendy

sharwei67 <sharwei@...> wrote:
           Hello Longie Lovers
On Saturday at the Gundog Club of Tasmania show Judged by Lainie Knox
the furry results were:
Grausturm Miss Hilton (Paris)Best of breed 10 points (There are
currently 5 or 6 longhairs being shown which is the most I have seen
here in the 4 years I've been involved in showing)
Grausturm Jack O Hearts (Grady)RUIB 8 points

Unfortunately a Lab got Runner Up In Show and Junior in show and
eliminated Paris. Grady went on to get State Bred in Show. Thanks
must go to Maree Pledger for making him look stunning and standing out
in the line up.

From his proud furry mum,
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Hello Longie Lovers
On Saturday at the Gundog Club of Tasmania show Judged by Lainie Knox
the furry results were:
Grausturm Miss Hilton (Paris)Best of breed 10 points (There are
currently 5 or 6 longhairs being shown which is the most I have seen
here in the 4 years I've been involved in showing)
Grausturm Jack O Hearts (Grady)RUIB 8 points

Unfortunately a Lab got Runner Up In Show and Junior in show and
eliminated Paris.  Grady went on to get State Bred in Show.  Thanks
must go to Maree Pledger for making him look stunning and standing out
in the line up.

From his proud furry mum,
Sandra

I'm going to start taking Boris with me to the hen house twice a day.
He knows where the coop is and follows my tracks after I'm done anyway,
so I think its time he accompanies while learning more.  I didn't do
this to begin with as I thought it might encourage him to get into the
coop but he'll have to learn anyway since the birds will be in runs,
too, this spring so we're onto the next level of training.  (All four
weims will need to learn to leave the birds, coop/runs, alone;)

We joined the Alaska Greatland Chapter of NAVHDA this month and will be
training until the tests in August.  I've applied for registration
w/akc for Boris, along w/ILP for Bullet so both can be registered
w/NAVHDA.

I'll also be learning a new camera my youngest daughter gave me for
Christmas, I think that will be the biggest challenge;( lol

Great teamwork, Ally & Twiggy!  Living proof that dogs are NOT past
their prime in life after age five;)  Awesome!

WOW that is absolutely fantastic - WEll done. Go the longhairs!!! Go twiggy.
Cheers Ingrid and the grausturm crew.


On Friday, January 18, 2008 at 11:53:42 AM,
Weimaraner_Longhaired@... wrote:

> Well I have had it confirmed by the Schutzhund Club in the UK my Twiggy
> is the first and ONLY dog of ANY breed to hold all the nosework titles
> in the UK
>
> ie CDex UDex UDex WDex TDex FH1 FH2
>
> She is only the third dog in the UK to gain an FH2, the other two were
> GSDs and belonged to the same owners.
>
> So once again Twiggy makes not only breed history but DOG history!
>
>
>
>
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Well I have had it confirmed by the Schutzhund Club in the UK my Twiggy
is the first and ONLY dog of ANY breed to hold all the nosework titles
in the UK

ie CDex UDex UDex WDex TDex FH1 FH2

She is only the third dog in the UK to gain an FH2, the other two were
GSDs and belonged to the same owners.

So once again Twiggy makes not only breed history but DOG history!

Hi Wendy,   Congratulations to you and Lara.  I know I
am late with this but I have finally got back into
this site for a read.  I remember trying to talk you
into this great sport a long time ago.
Our guys are doing well.  Dest Wishes for your next 2
passes.
Roz and the gang
"Stryka" another great Sinaway dog - Dual Ch (T)
Sinaway Remembrans Flame (LH) CDX ET JD QC (plus 2
passes to SD)

"Nova" Ch Weilander Wind Of Arimar (LH) CDX TD ET

"Nickle" Dual Ch (T) Weilander Movn The Earth ET (plus
2 passes to CD)

"Kuma" T Ch Weilander Rain Angel CD ET  (the sh who
needs more work)




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wrote:

> Thanks, Caron. You wait until Zed (Ch Sinaway
> Zorro's Mark) gets in there. She's not a LH, but she
> is the most driven, eager to please dog I have ever
> come across - she can make Border Collies look
> slow!! She is going to blow them away. You sure
> breed 'em beautiful AND smart, Caron!
>
>   And then there's Willow Wombat, Lara's
> grandaughter, Zed's daughter who learned to speak on
> command at only 6 weeks. I am going to have to study
> to keep ahead of her!
>
>   Wendy
>
> sinaway@... wrote:
>           Hi all,
> Well done Wendy and Lara.
> Yes, I remember some of the negative comments you
> got when you first got her but she has done well for
> you and , as I have laways said, "you get
> out of a dog what you put in" and I know you have
> put in heaps and deserve the rewards.
> She was a challenge and you have well and truely met
> it head on!
> Keep me posted.
> Caron
> Sinaway Kennels and Laras' breeder.
>
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   I liked the idea about smearing the paws with olive oil, that would never have
occurred to me.

   I also have a 'new' long-hair - he's a five-years-old rescue through the
Western Washington Weim Club.  One of the things my brother (who fostered him)
and I have had to do is to keep the hair between the toes/pads trimmed.  This
boy gets all kinds of stuff tangled in the hair between his paw pads and toes,
and then has a definitely pained gait as a result.

   Between both of these, your dog's paws should remain fairly free of snowballs.
I must say, even my short-haired weims have had the occasional snowball between
the toes/pads.  It's doubtful anything will be be a 100% remedy.  In the end,
you can always try doggie rubber booties if nothing else works.

   Bonnie Schultz

Tonya Scribner <horsesrfun53911@...> wrote:
           Hi all,

We have had an early winter here is Wisonsin, USA. We have already had
4 snowfalls and probably have a good 10 inches of snow on the ground.
The snow is here to stay as the temps are barely hitting the upper
teens. I'm so happy to have my LH weim!! He does great in this colder
weather. My other 2 dogs are Dalmatians who are usually ok in the
winter, but this year they are chilled on our outdoor romps and are
using thier coats already.

I am having a problem though that I never had before with the shorthair
weims. Harry gets a big build up of snow in between his toes and under
his pads. This builds up as we are playing and eventually he stops and
tries to chew it out.

Since I am new to dogs with this amount of foot fur : ) any suggestions
as to how to reduce this snw build up?

Tonya






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Yes, dipthefeet in oliveoilbefore you go out, the oil prevents
thesnowballing and also conditions theirpads which are at riskof being
  dired outby  grit or salt.

--- In Weimaraner_Longhaired@..., "Tonya Scribner"
<horsesrfun53911@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> We have had an early winter here is Wisonsin, USA.  We have already had
> 4 snowfalls and probably have a good 10 inches of snow on the ground.
> The snow is here to stay as the temps are barely hitting the upper
> teens.  I'm so happy to have my LH weim!!  He does great in this colder
> weather.  My other 2 dogs are Dalmatians who are usually ok in the
> winter, but this year they are chilled on our outdoor romps and are
> using thier coats already.
>
> I am having a problem though that I never had before with the shorthair
> weims.  Harry gets a big build up of snow in between his toes and under
> his pads.  This builds up as we are playing and eventually he stops and
> tries to chew it out.
>
> Since I am new to dogs with this amount of foot fur : ) any suggestions
> as to how to reduce this snw build up?
>
> Tonya
>

Hi all,

We have had an early winter here is Wisonsin, USA.  We have already had
4 snowfalls and probably have a good 10 inches of snow on the ground.
The snow is here to stay as the temps are barely hitting the upper
teens.  I'm so happy to have my LH weim!!  He does great in this colder
weather.  My other 2 dogs are Dalmatians who are usually ok in the
winter, but this year they are chilled on our outdoor romps and are
using thier coats already.

I am having a problem though that I never had before with the shorthair
weims.  Harry gets a big build up of snow in between his toes and under
his pads.  This builds up as we are playing and eventually he stops and
tries to chew it out.

Since I am new to dogs with this amount of foot fur : ) any suggestions
as to how to reduce this snw build up?

Tonya

--- In Weimaraner_Longhaired@..., Bonnie Edwards
<be_gourmet@...> wrote:
>
> Congratulations from the USA, where it is cold and wet... and very
windy right now - gusts up to 40 miles per hour (I don't know how to
translate this to KPH).
>
>   You girls Rock!
>
>   Bonnie Schultz


Thanks Bonnie.
That does not sound like weather I'd like to be out in. 40mph is
about 64.3kph.

Today we are back to hot and dry, 33 Celcius which is 91.4F, and in
about six weeks we will be up to 42 - 43C which is about 107 - 110F.
In Canberra it stays quite cold for longer than other mainland
capitals, but then when it heats up, it really heats up! Winter goes
to about -10C at night, which is 13F, but we used to live in the
mountains with -16C which is 3F.

So I don't find Canberra great to live in, (ignoring the fact that
this is where all the politicians are, and we are only 8 days out
from our Federal election) with 13F to 110F but them's the breaks!

Wendy

Congratulations from the USA, where it is cold and wet... and very windy right
now - gusts up to 40 miles per hour (I don't know how to translate this to KPH).

   You girls Rock!

   Bonnie Schultz

syrinxkennels <syrinxkennels@...> wrote:
           Hi everyone,
Last night, Lara and I had our fourth obedience trial. Now, although
it is November, which should not be cold in Australia, and we are in
a massive drought where we live, we had a freezing night with
driving rain! You can never tell in Canberra. Here it can be 'Four
seasons in one morning', rather that day. I would like to say this
is a level under CD, almost all the same stuff, but the heeling is
on lead, as is the stand for exam. But we need to start at the
bottom, as I have never done this before. It is called Community
Companion Dog - the title is CCD. It is a good thing, as it seems to
be getting people into trailing that would not be confident to go
right to off lead work.

The night had not really started off too well, I had to wait for Kim
to get home with the car, then I couldn't find my chair, got stuck
in heavy Friday night traffic and was thinking very bad thoughts
about the drivers of ALL of the cars in front of me. I got there,
pretty much just in time to be vetted, picked up my number to find -
I was number ONE!!!! I still need to watch what someone else does to
calm myself and work it out, so was thrilled to find out that a
friend of mine was going to steward in another ring, and so, needed
to go in front of me.

I hugged him. ;-))))

As we were almost finished our heeling and individual exercises, the
rain started. By the time we were walking back to our stuff, the
heavens had opened. Dogs were refusing to drop, or even sit, and
people were failing by the drove. Even experienced handlers were
walking around muttering 'This is ridiculous!'. Water was pooling in
the rings, footpaths were flooded.

Now Lara has a few 'quirks'. She just loves to roll in grass, mainly
because we don't really have any at this point. So we have to get to
training or trailing early so she can roll in it enough to get it
out of her system. But there is one thing she loves more than grass -
and that's wet grass. She also was 'born tired' as my father would
say, and will very often go down in the sit/stay.

We walked into the ring for the stays, only 5 of us had gotten this
far, and all purebred dogs, which is rare these days in Canberra.
There was Faxon the Afghan, then Lara, a Foxhound, GSD and a mini
Schnauzer, who unfortunately had just had a very short hair cut. The
first thing she did was have a big roll. Three times. We got into
position, and I left her with all this wet grass, and I tried to
pretend, but did not leave her very hopefully. She sat there,
looking at me, the Foxhound got up almost immediatley, but Lara
stayed rock steady. It seems she likes damp grass, but this was too
wet even for her. It was raining so hard, I could see she had her
eyes half closed to keep the rain out. We walked back, my heart
leaping, as that was the one we usually trip up on.

But then, as we got ready for the down/stay, I realised that we had
not done this in this kind of weather. I did not know if she would
even go down in this amount of water. But down she went, and I
walked away, again trying to be confident. Again, the Foxhound got
up, Lara didn't move. Then the judge, wearing a long, swishy coat,
walked a bit too close to the dogs. The Afghan took offence, and got
up, and that pass would have been his title. So the dogs either side
of her had stood, she still stayed. That left the three German
breeds. Then, as we neared to end of the time, the little Schnauzer
could take no more, and sat up. Lara had been looking at me with a
expression that very clearly said, 'Mum, you CAN't mean this, can
you?? Is this RIGHT??' But she stayed there, regardless. I was so
proud of her.

They could not write on the score board, as it washed right off, so
I had no idea how the scores had gone, I really only cared that we
had qualified. When all the rings had finished, the few drowned rats
that were left, and unbelievably soggy judges and stewards finally
gathered in the heated, dry club house and presentations began, I
was amazed to find that we had not only been one of the only two to
get through, WE WON!!! And 92 points out of the 100 on offer. She
lost all in the heeling (she lags) and every other exercise was full
points. The judge said some wonderful things about better work than
she has seen from dogs in perfect weather, and we got a big cheer as
several of our instructors (past & present) were there. The one we
have now is actually looking at getting a LH!!!!! Lara works at
Novice level in her class, as it is combined CCD and Novice. So we
do the off lead stuff and the retreiving - Lara's favourite! People
have actually asked me how I got her to retreive, but try stopping
her! Her kids and grandkids are natural born retreivers, too. At
about 4 weeks they start carrying their toys around. As soon as they
can lift them off the floor, or drag them along.

When we first started training there, we got a LOT of negative
comments about training a Wei. There is a special award in Canberra,
a medal for a dog that has a show Ch, and then gets CD, CDX or UD.
Bronze, silver and gold. I said that I wanted to get one, in fact I
don't think any Wei of any coat has had one, certainly no LHs.
People actually laughed when I said that I was after one. So few
people train them here, it is so sad. A few pets come through, but
every one I have seen at our club has been misbehaving as they have
needed a firmer hand than the owners were giving. They soon give up.

But maybe after last night's performance, the trainers and members
of the club may start to reconsider the Weis.

Go the soggy LH!!

Wendy






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Congratulations, Allyson and Twiggy! You are lucky you are not in Austraila.
Once you have your TDX, and then do your Track 6 which gives you your Tracking
Ch, you are not allowed to compete, except in the Ch of Ch once a year in
Victoria!  I think it is a great shame when people put in all the work that it
must take to get to that level - and then nothing. We don't get the chance to
see greats like Twiggy perform here. You will have to keep competing for a
couple of more years so I can get to the UK before you retire her!  It is seeing
people like you and Roz Buckley here in Oz that has inspiried me to start this
stuff too.

   Congratulations again,

   Wendy and Lara.


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           Not bad for a 7 year old, she can still pull out the stops when
required!

Shame there are not more longhairs competing in trials and no others at
the highest level.

We shall just have to keep the flag flying for a while longer!






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Not bad for a 7 year old, she can still pull out the stops when
required!

Shame there are not more longhairs competing in trials and no others at
the highest level.

We shall just have to keep the flag flying for a while longer!

hi wendy
hobart royal best of breed was
Ch Grausturm live the dream

launceston royal BOB
Ch grausturm jack o hearts = grady

also on the last weekend
Grady took state bred in group both days.



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> OOh and Ingrid., ,_._,___
> Oh, Ingrid, don't you have some news for us about the longhairs at Launceston
and Hobart Royals (hint, hint) ?????
>
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Oh, Ingrid, don't you have some news for us about the longhairs at Launceston
and Hobart Royals (hint, hint) ?????

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   You won Highest in Trial at Hobart Royal with one of yours, didn't you? That
must have really been a thrill!

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congrats on the obedience win. How satisfying and proud you must be. Good on
you.
cheers Ingrid


On Saturday, November 10, 2007 at 02:29:41 AM,
Weimaraner_Longhaired@... wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> Last night, Lara and I had our fourth obedience trial. Now, although
> it is November, which should not be cold in Australia, and we are in
> a massive drought where we live, we had a freezing night with
> driving rain! You can never tell in Canberra. Here it can be 'Four
> seasons in one morning', rather that day. I would like to say this
> is a level under CD, almost all the same stuff, but the heeling is
> on lead, as is the stand for exam. But we need to start at the
> bottom, as I have never done this before. It is called Community
> Companion Dog - the title is CCD. It is a good thing, as it seems to
> be getting people into trailing that would not be confident to go
> right to off lead work.
>
> The night had not really started off too well, I had to wait for Kim
> to get home with the car, then I couldn't find my chair, got stuck
> in heavy Friday night traffic and was thinking very bad thoughts
> about the drivers of ALL of the cars in front of me. I got there,
> pretty much just in time to be vetted, picked up my number to find -
> I was number ONE!!!! I still need to watch what someone else does to
> calm myself and work it out, so was thrilled to find out that a
> friend of mine was going to steward in another ring, and so, needed
> to go in front of me.
>
> I hugged him. ;-))))
>
> As we were almost finished our heeling and individual exercises, the
> rain started. By the time we were walking back to our stuff, the
> heavens had opened. Dogs were refusing to drop, or even sit, and
> people were failing by the drove. Even experienced handlers were
> walking around muttering 'This is ridiculous!'. Water was pooling in
> the rings, footpaths were flooded.
>
> Now Lara has a few 'quirks'. She just loves to roll in grass, mainly
> because we don't really have any at this point. So we have to get to
> training or trailing early so she can roll in it enough to get it
> out of her system. But there is one thing she loves more than grass -
>  and that's wet grass. She also was 'born tired' as my father would
> say, and will very often go down in the sit/stay.
>
> We walked into the ring for the stays, only 5 of us had gotten this
> far, and all purebred dogs, which is rare these days in Canberra.
> There was Faxon the Afghan, then Lara, a Foxhound, GSD and a mini
> Schnauzer, who unfortunately had just had a very short hair cut. The
> first thing she did was have a big roll. Three times. We got into
> position, and I left her with all this wet grass, and I tried to
> pretend, but did not leave her very hopefully. She sat there,
> looking at me, the Foxhound got up almost immediatley, but Lara
> stayed rock steady. It seems she likes damp grass, but this was too
> wet even for her. It was raining so hard, I could see she had her
> eyes half closed to keep the rain out. We walked back, my heart
> leaping, as that was the one we usually trip up on.
>
> But then, as we got ready for the down/stay, I realised that we had
> not done this in this kind of weather. I did not know if she would
> even go down in this amount of water. But down she went, and I
> walked away, again trying to be confident. Again, the Foxhound got
> up, Lara didn't move. Then the judge, wearing a long, swishy coat,
> walked a bit too close to the dogs. The Afghan took offence, and got
> up, and that pass would have been his title. So the dogs either side
> of her had stood, she still stayed. That left the three German
> breeds. Then, as we neared to end of the time, the little Schnauzer
> could take no more, and sat up. Lara had been looking at me with a
> expression that very clearly said, 'Mum, you CAN't mean this, can
> you?? Is this RIGHT??' But she stayed there, regardless. I was so
> proud of her.
>
> They could not write on the score board, as it washed right off, so
> I had no idea how the scores had gone, I really only cared that we
> had qualified. When all the rings had finished, the few drowned rats
> that were left, and unbelievably soggy judges and stewards finally
> gathered in the heated, dry club house and presentations began, I
> was amazed to find that we had not only been one of the only two to
> get through, WE WON!!! And 92 points out of the 100 on offer. She
> lost all in the heeling (she lags) and every other exercise was full
> points. The judge said some wonderful things about better work than
> she has seen from dogs in perfect weather, and we got a big cheer as
> several of our instructors (past & present) were there. The one we
> have now is actually looking at getting a LH!!!!! Lara works at
> Novice level in her class, as it is combined CCD and Novice. So we
> do the off lead stuff and the retreiving - Lara's favourite! People
> have actually asked me how I got her to retreive, but try stopping
> her! Her kids and grandkids are natural born retreivers, too. At
> about 4 weeks they start carrying their toys around. As soon as they
> can lift them off the floor, or drag them along.
>
> When we first started training there, we got a LOT of negative
> comments about training a Wei. There is a special award in Canberra,
> a medal for a dog that has a show Ch, and then gets CD, CDX or UD.
> Bronze, silver and gold. I said that I wanted to get one, in fact I
> don't think any Wei of any coat has had one, certainly no LHs.
> People actually laughed when I said that I was after one. So few
> people train them here, it is so sad. A few pets come through, but
> every one I have seen at our club has been misbehaving as they have
> needed a firmer hand than the owners were giving. They soon give up.
>
> But maybe after last night's performance, the trainers and members
> of the club may start to reconsider the Weis.
>
> Go the soggy LH!!
>
> Wendy
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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Thanks, Caron. You wait until Zed (Ch Sinaway Zorro's Mark) gets in there. She's
not a LH, but she is the most driven, eager to please dog I have ever come
across - she can make Border Collies look slow!! She is going to blow them away.
You sure breed 'em beautiful AND smart, Caron!

   And then there's Willow Wombat, Lara's grandaughter, Zed's daughter who
learned to speak on command at only 6 weeks. I am going to have to study to keep
ahead of her!

   Wendy

sinaway@... wrote:
           Hi all,
Well done Wendy and Lara.
Yes, I remember some of the negative comments you got when you first got her but
she has done well for you and , as I have laways said, "you get
out of a dog what you put in" and I know you have put in heaps and deserve the
rewards.
She was a challenge and you have well and truely met it head on!
Keep me posted.
Caron
Sinaway Kennels and Laras' breeder.






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Hi all,
Well done Wendy and Lara.
Yes, I remember some of the negative comments you got when you first got her but
she has done well for you and , as I have laways said, "you get
out of a dog what you put in" and I know you have put in heaps and deserve the
rewards.
She was a challenge and you have well and truely met it head on!
Keep me posted.
Caron
Sinaway Kennels and Laras' breeder.
Quoting syrinxkennels <syrinxkennels@...>:

> Hi everyone,
> Last night, Lara and I had our fourth obedience trial. Now, although
> it is November, which should not be cold in Australia, and we are in
> a massive drought where we live, we had a freezing night with
> driving rain! You can never tell in Canberra. Here it can be 'Four
> seasons in one morning', rather that day. I would like to say this
> is a level under CD, almost all the same stuff, but the heeling is
> on lead, as is the stand for exam. But we need to start at the
> bottom, as I have never done this before. It is called Community
> Companion Dog - the title is CCD. It is a good thing, as it seems to
> be getting people into trailing that would not be confident to go
> right to off lead work.
>
> The night had not really started off too well, I had to wait for Kim
> to get home with the car, then I couldn't find my chair, got stuck
> in heavy Friday night traffic and was thinking very bad thoughts
> about the drivers of ALL of the cars in front of me. I got there,
> pretty much just in time to be vetted, picked up my number to find -
> I was number ONE!!!! I still need to watch what someone else does to
> calm myself and work it out, so was thrilled to find out that a
> friend of mine was going to steward in another ring, and so, needed
> to go in front of me.
>
> I hugged him. ;-))))
>
> As we were almost finished our heeling and individual exercises, the
> rain started. By the time we were walking back to our stuff, the
> heavens had opened. Dogs were refusing to drop, or even sit, and
> people were failing by the drove. Even experienced handlers were
> walking around muttering 'This is ridiculous!'. Water was pooling in
> the rings, footpaths were flooded.
>
> Now Lara has a few 'quirks'. She just loves to roll in grass, mainly
> because we don't really have any at this point. So we have to get to
> training or trailing early so she can roll in it enough to get it
> out of her system. But there is one thing she loves more than grass -
>  and that's wet grass. She also was 'born tired' as my father would
> say, and will very often go down in the sit/stay.
>
> We walked into the ring for the stays, only 5 of us had gotten this
> far, and all purebred dogs, which is rare these days in Canberra.
> There was Faxon the Afghan, then Lara, a Foxhound, GSD and a mini
> Schnauzer, who unfortunately had just had a very short hair cut. The
> first thing she did was have a big roll. Three times. We got into
> position, and I left her with all this wet grass, and I tried to
> pretend, but did not leave her very hopefully. She sat there,
> looking at me, the Foxhound got up almost immediatley, but Lara
> stayed rock steady. It seems she likes damp grass, but this was too
> wet even for her. It was raining so hard, I could see she had her
> eyes half closed to keep the rain out. We walked back, my heart
> leaping, as that was the one we usually trip up on.
>
> But then, as we got ready for the down/stay, I realised that we had
> not done this in this kind of weather. I did not know if she would
> even go down in this amount of water. But down she went, and I
> walked away, again trying to be confident. Again, the Foxhound got
> up, Lara didn't move. Then the judge, wearing a long, swishy coat,
> walked a bit too close to the dogs. The Afghan took offence, and got
> up, and that pass would have been his title. So the dogs either side
> of her had stood, she still stayed. That left the three German
> breeds. Then, as we neared to end of the time, the little Schnauzer
> could take no more, and sat up. Lara had been looking at me with a
> expression that very clearly said, 'Mum, you CAN't mean this, can
> you?? Is this RIGHT??' But she stayed there, regardless. I was so
> proud of her.
>
> They could not write on the score board, as it washed right off, so
> I had no idea how the scores had gone, I really only cared that we
> had qualified. When all the rings had finished, the few drowned rats
> that were left, and unbelievably soggy judges and stewards finally
> gathered in the heated, dry club house and presentations began, I
> was amazed to find that we had not only been one of the only two to
> get through, WE WON!!! And 92 points out of the 100 on offer. She
> lost all in the heeling (she lags) and every other exercise was full
> points. The judge said some wonderful things about better work than
> she has seen from dogs in perfect weather, and we got a big cheer as
> several of our instructors (past & present) were there. The one we
> have now is actually looking at getting a LH!!!!! Lara works at
> Novice level in her class, as it is combined CCD and Novice. So we
> do the off lead stuff and the retreiving - Lara's favourite! People
> have actually asked me how I got her to retreive, but try stopping
> her! Her kids and grandkids are natural born retreivers, too. At
> about 4 weeks they start carrying their toys around. As soon as they
> can lift them off the floor, or drag them along.
>
> When we first started training there, we got a LOT of negative
> comments about training a Wei. There is a special award in Canberra,
> a medal for a dog that has a show Ch, and then gets CD, CDX or UD.
> Bronze, silver and gold. I said that I wanted to get one, in fact I
> don't think any Wei of any coat has had one, certainly no LHs.
> People actually laughed when I said that I was after one. So few
> people train them here, it is so sad. A few pets come through, but
> every one I have seen at our club has been misbehaving as they have
> needed a firmer hand than the owners were giving. They soon give up.
>
> But maybe after last night's performance, the trainers and members
> of the club may start to reconsider the Weis.
>
> Go the soggy LH!!
>
> Wendy
>
>

Congratulations Lara and Wendy.
All that work has finally paid off.
Lets hope that you don't have to wait for the heavens to open again
for Lara to do the right thing.

All our love from the Happylea Gang.
---- Original Message ----
From: syrinxkennels@...
To: Weimaraner_Longhaired@...
Subject: [Weimaraner_Longhaired] Lara and Obedience (warning - very
long)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:29:41 -0000

>Hi everyone,
>Last night, Lara and I had our fourth obedience trial. Now, although
>it is November, which should not be cold in Australia, and we are in
>a massive drought where we live, we had a freezing night with
>driving rain! You can never tell in Canberra. Here it can be 'Four
>seasons in one morning', rather that day. I would like to say this
>is a level under CD, almost all the same stuff, but the heeling is
>on lead, as is the stand for exam. But we need to start at the
>bottom, as I have never done this before. It is called Community
>Companion Dog - the title is CCD. It is a good thing, as it seems to
>be getting people into trailing that would not be confident to go
>right to off lead work.
>
>The night had not really started off too well, I had to wait for Kim
>to get home with the car, then I couldn't find my chair, got stuck
>in heavy Friday night traffic and was thinking very bad thoughts
>about the drivers of ALL of the cars in front of me. I got there,
>pretty much just in time to be vetted, picked up my number to find -
>I was number ONE!!!! I still need to watch what someone else does to
>calm myself and work it out, so was thrilled to find out that a
>friend of mine was going to steward in another ring, and so, needed
>to go in front of me.
>
>I hugged him. ;-))))
>
>As we were almost finished our heeling and individual exercises, the
>rain started. By the time we were walking back to our stuff, the
>heavens had opened. Dogs were refusing to drop, or even sit, and
>people were failing by the drove. Even experienced handlers were
>walking around muttering 'This is ridiculous!'. Water was pooling in
>the rings, footpaths were flooded.
>
>Now Lara has a few 'quirks'. She just loves to roll in grass, mainly
>because we don't really have any at this point. So we have to get to
>training or trailing early so she can roll in it enough to get it
>out of her system. But there is one thing she loves more than grass -
> and that's wet grass. She also was 'born tired' as my father would
>say, and will very often go down in the sit/stay.
>
>We walked into the ring for the stays, only 5 of us had gotten this
>far, and all purebred dogs, which is rare these days in Canberra.
>There was Faxon the Afghan, then Lara, a Foxhound, GSD and a mini
>Schnauzer, who unfortunately had just had a very short hair cut. The
>first thing she did was have a big roll. Three times. We got into
>position, and I left her with all this wet grass, and I tried to
>pretend, but did not leave her very hopefully. She sat there,
>looking at me, the Foxhound got up almost immediatley, but Lara
>stayed rock steady. It seems she likes damp grass, but this was too
>wet even for her. It was raining so hard, I could see she had her
>eyes half closed to keep the rain out. We walked back, my heart
>leaping, as that was the one we usually trip up on.
>
>But then, as we got ready for the down/stay, I realised that we had
>not done this in this kind of weather. I did not know if she would
>even go down in this amount of water. But down she went, and I
>walked away, again trying to be confident. Again, the Foxhound got
>up, Lara didn't move. Then the judge, wearing a long, swishy coat,
>walked a bit too close to the dogs. The Afghan took offence, and got
>up, and that pass would have been his title. So the dogs either side
>of her had stood, she still stayed. That left the three German
>breeds. Then, as we neared to end of the time, the little Schnauzer
>could take no more, and sat up. Lara had been looking at me with a
>expression that very clearly said, 'Mum, you CAN't mean this, can
>you?? Is this RIGHT??' But she stayed there, regardless. I was so
>proud of her.
>
>They could not write on the score board, as it washed right off, so
>I had no idea how the scores had gone, I really only cared that we
>had qualified. When all the rings had finished, the few drowned rats
>that were left, and unbelievably soggy judges and stewards finally
>gathered in the heated, dry club house and presentations began, I
>was amazed to find that we had not only been one of the only two to
>get through, WE WON!!! And 92 points out of the 100 on offer. She
>lost all in the heeling (she lags) and every other exercise was full
>points. The judge said some wonderful things about better work than
>she has seen from dogs in perfect weather, and we got a big cheer as
>several of our instructors (past & present) were there. The one we
>have now is actually looking at getting a LH!!!!! Lara works at
>Novice level in her class, as it is combined CCD and Novice. So we
>do the off lead stuff and the retreiving - Lara's favourite! People
>have actually asked me how I got her to retreive, but try stopping
>her! Her kids and grandkids are natural born retreivers, too. At
>about 4 weeks they start carrying their toys around. As soon as they
>can lift them off the floor, or drag them along.
>
>When we first started training there, we got a LOT of negative
>comments about training a Wei. There is a special award in Canberra,
>a medal for a dog that has a show Ch, and then gets CD, CDX or UD.
>Bronze, silver and gold. I said that I wanted to get one, in fact I
>don't think any Wei of any coat has had one, certainly no LHs.
>People actually laughed when I said that I was after one. So few
>people train them here, it is so sad. A few pets come through, but
>every one I have seen at our club has been misbehaving as they have
>needed a firmer hand than the owners were giving. They soon give up.
>
>But maybe after last night's performance, the trainers and members
>of the club may start to reconsider the Weis.
>
>Go the soggy LH!!
>
>Wendy
>

Deborah Neumann
Happylea Kennel
Home of Weimaraner's both long and short haired,
Australian Kelpies, Jack Russells and Tibetan Spaniel.