Donna

Your little girl sounds sweet. Yes Isabella keeps me constantly on
the run but she is fairly well behaved and like you i wouldnt have it
any other way.

Where in australia do you live???
--- In as_ap@..., "teagan2901" <teagan2901@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Pettina,
>
> I just realised that my reply to your earlier message didn't post.
Sorry, I'm not sure what I
> did wrong there,  (spot the amateur!).
>
> I wanted to say thank you for the kind welcome!   Like you, my
husband decided he would
> support me using this forum if I thought it would help, and I have
to say, so far it has.
> While its not a good thing to have in common with someone, it is
nice to know that others
> understand and can relate to the way I've been feeling.    Of
course, my loss came early on
> so I can't imagine the journey you travelled, I really can't and
(as Lea said to me), my heart
> goes out to you and your family.
>
> I note you have a 19 month of – Isabella -.  Oh my god, if she is
anything like my little
> mischief Makayla, then I bet you have your hands full.     It only
seemed like yesterday that
> she was crawling around on the floor, looking all cutey cutey.
Now, she's hanging around
> the kitchen pantry demanding a cookie because `Cookie Monster' has
one.   Still very
> cutey cutey but very full on!!  OK, the sugar probably doesn't help
matters.
>
> Despite, whats happened, I also feel very very lucky and I am
extremely grateful for what I
> have.   (as I run off to change a stinky nappy)...
>
> xxx Donna
> Mummy of Makayla (18 months old) and our angel baby Teagan
>
> --- In as_ap@..., "pettinabeves" <pettinabeves@>
wrote:
> >
> > Hi Lori and Donna
> >
> > My name is Pettina and i live on the Central Coast NSW.
> > Last year i carried to term my precious Mercy Grace who i was
lucky
> > enough to have for almost 6 weeks. My husbands name is John who
is
> > also a memeber here but tries to give me my space in this group.
I am
> > also the very lucky mum of a 19 month going on 19 years Isabella.
She
> > is a sweet gem.
> > I hope you are both able to find some comfort in this group.
> >
>

hey pettina...im sorry you had such a crappy day. i have only got a
minute but i just wanted to let you know that our daughter maddison,
whos 8, definitly cries about kayla and tells people she has a sister
in heaven. maddy actually never seen kayla...not even a photo. i
worry what that would do to her. when maddy cries and says she misses
kayla i just hug her...and maybe cry too...and tell her we all do and
its ok to feel like this and its good to remember her. maddy did have
counselling after kayla which they encouraged her to draw her
feelings. i do have to go but i hope this helps a little. although
our girls are different age. i hope everyone has a great day. my
heart is broken today as my 8 year old told me last night she wishes
i was never her mum  :(  i am sad. but am pretty sure(and hopeful)
she didn't mean it.  Toni   xoxox

--- In as_ap@..., "pettinabeves" <pettinabeves@...>
wrote:
>
> Things have been a bit rough and i have had trouble getting out of
bed
> in the morning due to sickness and the ungodly hour isabella likes
to
> wake at the moment. This morning she got into Mercy's photo book
that
> i keep in my bag and got a smack which just snow balled.
>
> She started crying and saying that she "needs mercy" and she "wants
> mercy" then preceeded to tell me that she was sad and followed this
up
> by "Mercy dies Mercy dies".
>
> Needless to say Mummy had a lot of tears too and it was an
emotional
> start to the day.
>
> When John and I chose to carry to term we askerd how this would
affect
> Isabella. She was 13months when Mercy was born and we were told
that
> she would barely remember. Ohhh how my heart broke this morning.
>
> Has anyone else experienced these moments with there kids. Isabella
is
> only 20 months now
>

Hey Pettina, I think our messages are crossing each other.

I've just realised that you're expecting.   Congratulations!!

My doctor once told me that it was a good thing to feel so sick in the morning. 
She said it
meant the baby was growing well.  I can't repeat what my thoughts were to that!!
Some of
my friends/family were lucky enough to miss the nausea aspect of pregnancy and
they
went on to deliver happy, healthy babies, I couldn't see why I couldn't be in
their group.   I
hope for you, those feelings subside quickly.  You probably have your remedies,
but
Ginger tablets worked a treat for me (that and eating, eating, eating).  Isn't
it weird (and
disgusting) that a pregnant woman can feel hungry and nauseous at the same time?

As for Isabella, oh dear.  I have no experience there.  I just feel for you both
(and for John
who probably wants all his girls smiling).    I'll be thinking of you and I'm
sending you
hugs, and strength through the comfort universe.

xxx
Donna

--- In as_ap@..., "pettinabeves" <pettinabeves@...> wrote:
>
> Things have been a bit rough and i have had trouble getting out of bed
> in the morning due to sickness and the ungodly hour isabella likes to
> wake at the moment. This morning she got into Mercy's photo book that
> i keep in my bag and got a smack which just snow balled.
>
> She started crying and saying that she "needs mercy" and she "wants
> mercy" then preceeded to tell me that she was sad and followed this up
> by "Mercy dies Mercy dies".
>
> Needless to say Mummy had a lot of tears too and it was an emotional
> start to the day.
>
> When John and I chose to carry to term we askerd how this would affect
> Isabella. She was 13months when Mercy was born and we were told that
> she would barely remember. Ohhh how my heart broke this morning.
>
> Has anyone else experienced these moments with there kids. Isabella is
> only 20 months now
>

Hey Pettina,

I just realised that my reply to your earlier message didn't post.  Sorry, I'm
not sure what I
did wrong there,  (spot the amateur!).

I wanted to say thank you for the kind welcome!   Like you, my husband decided
he would
support me using this forum if I thought it would help, and I have to say, so
far it has.
While its not a good thing to have in common with someone, it is nice to know
that others
understand and can relate to the way I've been feeling.    Of course, my loss
came early on
so I can't imagine the journey you travelled, I really can't and (as Lea said to
me), my heart
goes out to you and your family.

I note you have a 19 month of – Isabella -.  Oh my god, if she is anything like
my little
mischief Makayla, then I bet you have your hands full.     It only seemed like
yesterday that
she was crawling around on the floor, looking all cutey cutey.   Now, she's
hanging around
the kitchen pantry demanding a cookie because `Cookie Monster' has one.   Still
very
cutey cutey but very full on!!  OK, the sugar probably doesn't help matters.

Despite, whats happened, I also feel very very lucky and I am extremely grateful
for what I
have.   (as I run off to change a stinky nappy)...

xxx Donna
Mummy of Makayla (18 months old) and our angel baby Teagan

--- In as_ap@..., "pettinabeves" <pettinabeves@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Lori and Donna
>
> My name is Pettina and i live on the Central Coast NSW.
> Last year i carried to term my precious Mercy Grace who i was lucky
> enough to have for almost 6 weeks. My husbands name is John who is
> also a memeber here but tries to give me my space in this group. I am
> also the very lucky mum of a 19 month going on 19 years Isabella. She
> is a sweet gem.
> I hope you are both able to find some comfort in this group.
>

Things have been a bit rough and i have had trouble getting out of bed
in the morning due to sickness and the ungodly hour isabella likes to
wake at the moment. This morning she got into Mercy's photo book that
i keep in my bag and got a smack which just snow balled.

She started crying and saying that she "needs mercy" and she "wants
mercy" then preceeded to tell me that she was sad and followed this up
by "Mercy dies Mercy dies".

Needless to say Mummy had a lot of tears too and it was an emotional
start to the day.

When John and I chose to carry to term we askerd how this would affect
Isabella. She was 13months when Mercy was born and we were told that
she would barely remember. Ohhh how my heart broke this morning.

Has anyone else experienced these moments with there kids. Isabella is
only 20 months now

Hey Lea,
Thanks for your response.

My heart goes out to the women, who experience this after a full pregnancy and
birth.
Despite the problems I've had since the D&C, I am still so grateful that I
didn't have to
endure the birthing process.  My husband and I thought that if there was any
small mercy,
that was it.   Just as we were getting used to the idea of being pregnant, it
was all over and
sometimes, its hard to believe that it actually happened.

Like yourself, its been recommended that next time, we get pregnant (all going
well), we
use folate.   Ironically, all my tests showed that all my levels were what they
should be so
that helped relieve some of the anxiety around whether I had taken enough iron,
or
calcium etc.   That was my first thought though – that I hadn't.  I guess its
all part of trying
to find a reason why it happened?

Anyway, its so nice (and inspiring) to hear your story has a happy ending and
that Arden is
such a healthy and perfect baby!!!   It gave me hope and I think its awesome
that he's
doing so well.

Congratulations and welcome to the world little Arden!

Looking forward to updates...
xxx Donna

Mummy of Makayla (18 months old) and our angel baby Teagan

Thanks Lea for the kind welcome.   I can see I am in good company.
I'm sorry for your losses and so grateful that it has inspired you to
create something that has has obviously been so comforting and
helpful to so many others.   Thank you!!, kindest regards, D

  --- In as_ap@..., "Lea" <leannec72@...> wrote:
>
> A big welcome to our new members Lori and Donna, I hope that you
find
> comfort and support amongst us here at AS~AP.
>
> My name is Lea, I am co-founder of AS~AP, my son ~Ben~ was born,
along
> with his twin sister Nara, in June 06 at 34w3d gestation, he
survived
> for 1 hour and 21 minutes.
>
> I live with my family, DH Alistair, DD1 Sage, DD2 Nara and our
rainbow
> baby DS2 Arden in far northern NSW.
>
> I look forward to getting to know you both, I'm sorry you've had a
> need to join us but I'm so glad you found us.
>
> Sending welcoming hugs
>
> Lea xxxxxx
>

Hi, just wanted to introduce myself and say hello to everyone.

Late January at my 12 week scan, the radiologist told my husband and
I that our baby had Acrania and that this was a pre-cursor of
Anencephaly and "thus a lethal abnormality incompatible with
survival".

This is the first time we have encountered this term and it took us a
few days to comprehend what it meant.

Initially, I was told I would be induced and have to give birth, but
because of my blood pressure, it was decided that despite being on
the cuff of a 13 week pregnancy, it would be safer if I underwent a
D&C operation.

To add to our despair, it was Australia Day and the hospital was
unable to book me in for another four days until the long weekend was
over so we had to spend the next few days unable to do anything (I
kept thinking it would have been great just to take a pill and make
everything better but that wasn't the case).

It was a difficult time, being and feeling pregnant but knowing that
we would have to terminate the growing life inside me as soon as the
hospital were ready for us.

We almost wished that the baby had miscarried so that the decision
was out of our hands.  We really struggled with the fact that we had
to make the choice to terminate.  Even though we knew (because the
doctors had made it so clear) that our baby didn't have a future in
this world and it was the right thing to do for all concerned, but it
was one of the hardest things we have ever had to do.

The hospital staff were great but my husband and I lost it just
before they wheeled us into theatre.  It just felt too clinical
(which, to be fair, for the hospital, it was just a procedure) but
for us, it was the day that our baby was born and died.

We didn't get to have a funeral and if it wasn't for the hospital
chaplain giving us some time to feel as though we had some sort of
service, I think it would have been even harder again.

Since that time, I have been back to the hospital A & E three times
with complications (infection and haemorrhaging).   I have had three
ultrasounds in the past 2 months but  I have developed a huge fear of
ultrasounds, and can no longer look at the monitor screen without
seeing my 12 week ultrasound with what looked like a normal baby with
a heartbeat, arms and legs moving and baby sucking its thumb, but a
unmistakably deformed head.

Seven weeks after the operation, (after a day trip to the A&E Dept
due to some heavy bleeding), the hospital phoned us at 9.30 pm to
tell us that my blood tests showed I was pregnant.   We thought this
was a bad joke, since we   were restricted from actual intercourse
until  I had been given a clear bill of health.   Obviously my body
hadn't yet realised that my baby was no longer inside of me.

So, now I'm feeling much better physically, but mentally still
dealing with the grief of knowing that we would have been 6 months
pregnant this month.   My husband and I would like to think that in
time we might be able to try again but at this stage, its still too
early to go there .

Occationally we still have our `pity' moments and think `why us?' but
mostly, we've come to terms with what has happened.    I used to get
angry when people said to me `ah well, it just wasn't meant to be'.
Thats not what we thought, we definitely thought it was meant to
be.   And we wanted it so much, but I understand what they're trying
to say and I appreciate the underlying meaning and kindness.

I'm really interested in knowing from other women who have been
through what we have been through, how they got on, especially with
regard to subsequent pregnancies.   I know theres no guarantees that
what happens for someone else will happen for us, but it would be
reassuring to hear some positive outcomes.

Thanks for the opportunity to share my story and I look forward to
getting to know the other members and hearing their stories too.
Kind regards, Donna

Hi Lori and Donna

My name is Pettina and i live on the Central Coast NSW.
Last year i carried to term my precious Mercy Grace who i was lucky
enough to have for almost 6 weeks. My husbands name is John who is
also a memeber here but tries to give me my space in this group. I am
also the very lucky mum of a 19 month going on 19 years Isabella. She
is a sweet gem.
I hope you are both able to find some comfort in this group.

--- In as_ap@..., "Lea" <leannec72@...> wrote:
>
> A big welcome to our new members Lori and Donna, I hope that you
find
> comfort and support amongst us here at AS~AP.
>
> My name is Lea, I am co-founder of AS~AP, my son ~Ben~ was born,
along
> with his twin sister Nara, in June 06 at 34w3d gestation, he
survived
> for 1 hour and 21 minutes.
>
> I live with my family, DH Alistair, DD1 Sage, DD2 Nara and our
rainbow
> baby DS2 Arden in far northern NSW.
>
> I look forward to getting to know you both, I'm sorry you've had a
> need to join us but I'm so glad you found us.
>
> Sending welcoming hugs
>
> Lea xxxxxx
>

A big welcome to our new members Lori and Donna, I hope that you find
comfort and support amongst us here at AS~AP.

My name is Lea, I am co-founder of AS~AP, my son ~Ben~ was born, along
with his twin sister Nara, in June 06 at 34w3d gestation, he survived
for 1 hour and 21 minutes.

I live with my family, DH Alistair, DD1 Sage, DD2 Nara and our rainbow
baby DS2 Arden in far northern NSW.

I look forward to getting to know you both, I'm sorry you've had a
need to join us but I'm so glad you found us.

Sending welcoming hugs

Lea xxxxxx

Liz, honey I am so saddened by your news.........I can understand why
you'd be finding this loss so hard, we dream that our rainbow
pregnancy will be different, that it will help heal some of our
heartache, to be thrust into the emotions of another loss must be a
great challenge, turn to us if you need a shoulder honey, we'll all be
here.

Sending you lots of healing hugs

Lea xxxxxx

hi liz. i hope you are going o.k. and feeling o.k.  i just wanted to
let you know i didn't take your message as rude or anything. and
please don't even worry or feel bad about it, it was your feelings
and your definitly entitled to feel that. i was having a bad day when
i wrote that message anyway but am going o.k. again. i really hope
your going o.k. and get through this set back.
thinking of you. toni

  --- In as_ap@..., "Elizabeth" <epsmith@...> wrote:
>
> Pettina and Toni,
> Thanks so much for your kind wishes. Its definatly a real sucky
time
> once again but I'm getting there. I must admit that I think I'm
> finding it harder than last time. Find myself struggling to get out
> of bed as i don't want to have to face any one. As i said, I will
get
> there.
> Toni-I'm so so so so so sorry about my last message to you. I
really
> wasn't trying to be rude or any thing like that. I know how hard it
> is to see other pregnant people and how jealous you feel. i was
> exactly the same. I think because i had just had the miscarriage
what
> I was reading was just hitting the wrong spot. I truly am sorry.
> Well, i had better be off. I have an appointment with the doctor
and
> I need a blood test to test my iron levels ect.
> Talk to you all again soon. take care.
> liz
>
> --- In as_ap@..., "pettinabeves" <pettinabeves@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Liz
> >
> > What can i say?? I am so so so sorry for your loss. It is so
unfair
> > for you to have to suffer more. I have been thinking of you lots
> and
> > you will continue to be on my mind. I wish that there was more to
> say
> > but having had a miscarriage in January i know that nothing much
> > matters when u feel the way you do. Please know i am thinking of
> you.
> >
> >
> > --- In as_ap@..., "Elizabeth" <epsmith@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi to all,
> > > Well my bad news is that i have had a miscarriage. I was 12
> weeks.
> > I
> > > had to go for an emergency D and C yesterday as I was losing to
> > much
> > > blood. What can I say, i am a failure as a mother once again.
the
> > joys
> > > of my crappy arse life hey!
> > >
> > > Pettina- I really hope that all goes well with your pregnancy
> this
> > time
> > > and even though I have just lost yet another much wanted baby I
> > wish
> > > you all the very best for your future.
> > >
> > > Toni- I must admit that your post about "every one being
> pregnant"
> > did
> > > upset me abit when I read it but I do understand where you are
> > coming
> > > from. It is hard to see others pregnant or with new borns and I
> use
> > to
> > > find my self asking why I had to lose our baby and not them but
I
> > am
> > > now past that and am happy with every new born baby I see and
> every
> > > pregnant woman. I can't hate people because they are happy and
I
> am
> > not.
> > > I hope that made sence and I'm not trying to be rude towards
you.
> i
> > > just want to let you know how it makes me feel.
> > >
> > > I hope that the rest of you are doing well.
> > >
> > > Take care every one.
> > >
> > > Liz xoxoxoxox
> > >
> >
>

Pettina and Toni,
Thanks so much for your kind wishes. Its definatly a real sucky time
once again but I'm getting there. I must admit that I think I'm
finding it harder than last time. Find myself struggling to get out
of bed as i don't want to have to face any one. As i said, I will get
there.
Toni-I'm so so so so so sorry about my last message to you. I really
wasn't trying to be rude or any thing like that. I know how hard it
is to see other pregnant people and how jealous you feel. i was
exactly the same. I think because i had just had the miscarriage what
I was reading was just hitting the wrong spot. I truly am sorry.
Well, i had better be off. I have an appointment with the doctor and
I need a blood test to test my iron levels ect.
Talk to you all again soon. take care.
liz

--- In as_ap@..., "pettinabeves" <pettinabeves@...>
wrote:
>
> Liz
>
> What can i say?? I am so so so sorry for your loss. It is so unfair
> for you to have to suffer more. I have been thinking of you lots
and
> you will continue to be on my mind. I wish that there was more to
say
> but having had a miscarriage in January i know that nothing much
> matters when u feel the way you do. Please know i am thinking of
you.
>
>
> --- In as_ap@..., "Elizabeth" <epsmith@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi to all,
> > Well my bad news is that i have had a miscarriage. I was 12
weeks.
> I
> > had to go for an emergency D and C yesterday as I was losing to
> much
> > blood. What can I say, i am a failure as a mother once again. the
> joys
> > of my crappy arse life hey!
> >
> > Pettina- I really hope that all goes well with your pregnancy
this
> time
> > and even though I have just lost yet another much wanted baby I
> wish
> > you all the very best for your future.
> >
> > Toni- I must admit that your post about "every one being
pregnant"
> did
> > upset me abit when I read it but I do understand where you are
> coming
> > from. It is hard to see others pregnant or with new borns and I
use
> to
> > find my self asking why I had to lose our baby and not them but I
> am
> > now past that and am happy with every new born baby I see and
every
> > pregnant woman. I can't hate people because they are happy and I
am
> not.
> > I hope that made sence and I'm not trying to be rude towards you.
i
> > just want to let you know how it makes me feel.
> >
> > I hope that the rest of you are doing well.
> >
> > Take care every one.
> >
> > Liz xoxoxoxox
> >
>

Liz

What can i say?? I am so so so sorry for your loss. It is so unfair
for you to have to suffer more. I have been thinking of you lots and
you will continue to be on my mind. I wish that there was more to say
but having had a miscarriage in January i know that nothing much
matters when u feel the way you do. Please know i am thinking of you.


--- In as_ap@..., "Elizabeth" <epsmith@...> wrote:
>
> Hi to all,
> Well my bad news is that i have had a miscarriage. I was 12 weeks.
I
> had to go for an emergency D and C yesterday as I was losing to
much
> blood. What can I say, i am a failure as a mother once again. the
joys
> of my crappy arse life hey!
>
> Pettina- I really hope that all goes well with your pregnancy this
time
> and even though I have just lost yet another much wanted baby I
wish
> you all the very best for your future.
>
> Toni- I must admit that your post about "every one being pregnant"
did
> upset me abit when I read it but I do understand where you are
coming
> from. It is hard to see others pregnant or with new borns and I use
to
> find my self asking why I had to lose our baby and not them but I
am
> now past that and am happy with every new born baby I see and every
> pregnant woman. I can't hate people because they are happy and I am
not.
> I hope that made sence and I'm not trying to be rude towards you. i
> just want to let you know how it makes me feel.
>
> I hope that the rest of you are doing well.
>
> Take care every one.
>
> Liz xoxoxoxox
>

Just hit 7 weeks today and unwell as usual though not as bad as the
last 2

--- In as_ap@..., "Lea" <leannec72@...> wrote:
>
> Pettina this is wonderful news, how are you feeling?
>
>
> --- In as_ap@..., "pettinabeves" <pettinabeves@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Liz
> > That is great news besides your leg and so happy you got a tv
with
> > your car, my husband would be jealous on both accounts. He is a
> huge
> > ford nut.
> > We are doing well. Had confirmed today that i am 4 weeks
pregnant.
> I
> > know it is so early on and we arent really telling people but i
> feel
> > some what calm amd sooo excited i wanna shout it from the roof
tops.
> > Strange really all things considered especially after the
> > miscarriage but it just feels right.
> > Glad to see you on line. Ill be thinking of you on April 1.
> > --- In as_ap@..., "Elizabeth" <epsmith@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello to all,
> > > How is every one going? just thought that i would check in and
> see
> > > whats happening with every one. All is going Ok with me. i am
> > booked in
> > > for my 12-13wk scan on the 1st of April. I'm getting excited
but
> > also
> > > terrified as well. I do have some possible badish news though.
i
> > found
> > > alump on my leg a few weeks ago but didn't think any thing of
it
> > cause
> > > it wasn't sore or any thing. i forgot all about it until last
> week
> > when
> > > my leg was really aching and really sore in the one spot. When
i
> > felt
> > > over it i felt the lump again. I went to the doctor and he said
> > that if
> > > it hasn't gonw within 2 weeks i have to go back and he will do
a
> > biopsy
> > > to find out what it is. Its been a week now and the pain and
the
> > lump
> > > is still there, although it hasn't gotten any bigger but in
> saying
> > that
> > > it hasn't gotten any smaller. its all a bit scary but I'm sure
it
> > will
> > > be fine (i'm hoping any way). Good news is that we are getting
a
> > new
> > > car. We have bought a new 7 seater ford territory and in doing
so
> > > managed to win a 82cm plasma tv, YEY for me, I never win any
> thing
> > so I
> > > am rather stocked. Any way, I can hear my bed calling me and
its
> > only
> > > 8:40pm. Hope to hear from you all soon. Take care.
> > > Liz
> > >
> >
>

liz im really really sorry to hear of your miscarriage. i hope you
are feeling o.k. and im sure it was nothing you have done. i am sorry
my post about everyone being pregnant upset you a bit. i don't hate
pregnant women..im jelous of them. i am generally happy for those who
are pregnant as i know what its like to want a baby so much. anway i
really hope you are feeling ok and im sure you will get through this
and when the time is right have a baby.
i found this article in the herald sun about a week ago and thought
it was interesting.
this was written ib the herald sun about a week ago. thought you's
may find it interesting.
           Green Tea infertility bonus.
  Green tea can help control endometriosis-a disease that threatens a
womans infertility-new research shows. a Hong Kong study, reported at
the 10th world congress on endometriosis in Melbourne this week, has
confirmed that catechins-potent antioxident compounds in green tea-
restrict the formation of new blood vessels that assist in the spread
of endometriosis. a standard cup of green tea contains between 100mg
and 150mg of catechins.
        as we're all aware green tea isn't as great as this article
makes it sound. i hope evryone has a good day.

--- In as_ap@..., "Elizabeth" <epsmith@...> wrote:
>
> Hi to all,
> Well my bad news is that i have had a miscarriage. I was 12 weeks.
I
> had to go for an emergency D and C yesterday as I was losing to
much
> blood. What can I say, i am a failure as a mother once again. the
joys
> of my crappy arse life hey!
>
> Pettina- I really hope that all goes well with your pregnancy this
time
> and even though I have just lost yet another much wanted baby I
wish
> you all the very best for your future.
>
> Toni- I must admit that your post about "every one being pregnant"
did
> upset me abit when I read it but I do understand where you are
coming
> from. It is hard to see others pregnant or with new borns and I use
to
> find my self asking why I had to lose our baby and not them but I
am
> now past that and am happy with every new born baby I see and every
> pregnant woman. I can't hate people because they are happy and I am
not.
> I hope that made sence and I'm not trying to be rude towards you. i
> just want to let you know how it makes me feel.
>
> I hope that the rest of you are doing well.
>
> Take care every one.
>
> Liz xoxoxoxox
>

Hi to all,
Well my bad news is that i have had a miscarriage. I was 12 weeks. I
had to go for an emergency D and C yesterday as I was losing to much
blood. What can I say, i am a failure as a mother once again. the joys
of my crappy arse life hey!

Pettina- I really hope that all goes well with your pregnancy this time
and even though I have just lost yet another much wanted baby I wish
you all the very best for your future.

Toni- I must admit that your post about "every one being pregnant" did
upset me abit when I read it but I do understand where you are coming
from. It is hard to see others pregnant or with new borns and I use to
find my self asking why I had to lose our baby and not them but I am
now past that and am happy with every new born baby I see and every
pregnant woman. I can't hate people because they are happy and I am not.
I hope that made sence and I'm not trying to be rude towards you. i
just want to let you know how it makes me feel.

I hope that the rest of you are doing well.

Take care every one.

Liz xoxoxoxox

i've just read your roll call message and wanted to let you know im
here but quite. i check my messages all the time but am finding it
hard/frustrating that everyone is pregnant...i know not everyone but a
lot in my family is also pregnant and im still trying for another. i
know i shouldn't feel this way but i do and im sorry i do. i realise it
hasn't been easy for anyone in this group. i have to go now but please
don't delete me just because i don't say much.--- In
as_ap@..., "Lea" <leannec72@...> wrote:
>
> I plan on doing a roll call for members soon to see who is actually
> here or not, I'll delete memberships that aren't being used so this
is
> basically a little notification of my plans.
>
> Please, if you are a member but have yet to post and introduce
> yourself, but have a real need to be here, say hi, we want and need
> you in our group....I don't want to delete members who may just be
too
> shy to say hi.
>
> Lea xxxxxx
>

Some of you may know that I am not the only person in my family to
have been touched by anencephaly or other Neural tube defects.  I had
a cousin born with severe Spina Bifida who passed away and today I
found out that her brother and his wife just had to make the hard
choice to end a pregnancy at 12 weeks after finding out the bubba had
anen, this is the second of my cousins to have this happen now.

So, 3 cousins having anen babies and one cousin dying from a
NT.....God it made me feel so guilty, there's clearly no doubt that
our genepool is somehow not quite right to be doing this to our
babies.  So what is going on?  How do we put this puzzle together to
make sure it stops with us?

To say this has upset me is a massive understatement....nobody told me
that they'd lost the baby, why I don't know, I mean my god if anyone
could help them at the time it was me.

I plan on doing a roll call for members soon to see who is actually
here or not, I'll delete memberships that aren't being used so this is
basically a little notification of my plans.

Please, if you are a member but have yet to post and introduce
yourself, but have a real need to be here, say hi, we want and need
you in our group....I don't want to delete members who may just be too
shy to say hi.

Lea xxxxxx

Hi everyone, sorry for my absence of late, no excuses, just haven't
popped in to check on you all, bit slack I know.

I see there's been a lot going on, I hope you girls carrying bubbas
are doing ok.

All is well with us, Arden is growing fast (too fast) and the girls
are doing great.  We've had the gastro bug in our house which has been
miserable but thankfully it seems as though everyone is over it or
nearly there (nara has been the hardest/longest hit).

I am nursing Arden so can't type easily so will leave this here for
now.

Keep up the great work supporting each other, it's so nice to know
when I'm not here the place doesn't get too dusty.

Sending you all my love, keep posting.

Liz how is your leg?

Not long til your scan now, how are you feeling in your pregnancy?

Lea xxxxxx

--- In as_ap@..., "Elizabeth" <epsmith@...> wrote:
>
> Hey, just a very super quick one to say that is such great news. I
am
> so so so so happy for you. Try to take it easy. I wish you the very
> best of luck with this pregnancy. Take care.
> liz
>
> --- In as_ap@..., "pettinabeves" <pettinabeves@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Liz
> > That is great news besides your leg and so happy you got a tv
with
> > your car, my husband would be jealous on both accounts. He is a
> huge
> > ford nut.
> > We are doing well. Had confirmed today that i am 4 weeks
pregnant.
> I
> > know it is so early on and we arent really telling people but i
> feel
> > some what calm amd sooo excited i wanna shout it from the roof
tops.
> > Strange really all things considered especially after the
> > miscarriage but it just feels right.
> > Glad to see you on line. Ill be thinking of you on April 1.
> > --- In as_ap@..., "Elizabeth" <epsmith@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello to all,
> > > How is every one going? just thought that i would check in and
> see
> > > whats happening with every one. All is going Ok with me. i am
> > booked in
> > > for my 12-13wk scan on the 1st of April. I'm getting excited
but
> > also
> > > terrified as well. I do have some possible badish news though.
i
> > found
> > > alump on my leg a few weeks ago but didn't think any thing of
it
> > cause
> > > it wasn't sore or any thing. i forgot all about it until last
> week
> > when
> > > my leg was really aching and really sore in the one spot. When
i
> > felt
> > > over it i felt the lump again. I went to the doctor and he said
> > that if
> > > it hasn't gonw within 2 weeks i have to go back and he will do
a
> > biopsy
> > > to find out what it is. Its been a week now and the pain and
the
> > lump
> > > is still there, although it hasn't gotten any bigger but in
> saying
> > that
> > > it hasn't gotten any smaller. its all a bit scary but I'm sure
it
> > will
> > > be fine (i'm hoping any way). Good news is that we are getting
a
> > new
> > > car. We have bought a new 7 seater ford territory and in doing
so
> > > managed to win a 82cm plasma tv, YEY for me, I never win any
> thing
> > so I
> > > am rather stocked. Any way, I can hear my bed calling me and
its
> > only
> > > 8:40pm. Hope to hear from you all soon. Take care.
> > > Liz
> > >
> >
>

Pettina this is wonderful news, how are you feeling?


--- In as_ap@..., "pettinabeves" <pettinabeves@...>
wrote:
>
> Liz
> That is great news besides your leg and so happy you got a tv with
> your car, my husband would be jealous on both accounts. He is a
huge
> ford nut.
> We are doing well. Had confirmed today that i am 4 weeks pregnant.
I
> know it is so early on and we arent really telling people but i
feel
> some what calm amd sooo excited i wanna shout it from the roof tops.
> Strange really all things considered especially after the
> miscarriage but it just feels right.
> Glad to see you on line. Ill be thinking of you on April 1.
> --- In as_ap@..., "Elizabeth" <epsmith@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello to all,
> > How is every one going? just thought that i would check in and
see
> > whats happening with every one. All is going Ok with me. i am
> booked in
> > for my 12-13wk scan on the 1st of April. I'm getting excited but
> also
> > terrified as well. I do have some possible badish news though. i
> found
> > alump on my leg a few weeks ago but didn't think any thing of it
> cause
> > it wasn't sore or any thing. i forgot all about it until last
week
> when
> > my leg was really aching and really sore in the one spot. When i
> felt
> > over it i felt the lump again. I went to the doctor and he said
> that if
> > it hasn't gonw within 2 weeks i have to go back and he will do a
> biopsy
> > to find out what it is. Its been a week now and the pain and the
> lump
> > is still there, although it hasn't gotten any bigger but in
saying
> that
> > it hasn't gotten any smaller. its all a bit scary but I'm sure it
> will
> > be fine (i'm hoping any way). Good news is that we are getting a
> new
> > car. We have bought a new 7 seater ford territory and in doing so
> > managed to win a 82cm plasma tv, YEY for me, I never win any
thing
> so I
> > am rather stocked. Any way, I can hear my bed calling me and its
> only
> > 8:40pm. Hope to hear from you all soon. Take care.
> > Liz
> >
>

Hey, just a very super quick one to say that is such great news. I am
so so so so happy for you. Try to take it easy. I wish you the very
best of luck with this pregnancy. Take care.
liz

--- In as_ap@..., "pettinabeves" <pettinabeves@...>
wrote:
>
> Liz
> That is great news besides your leg and so happy you got a tv with
> your car, my husband would be jealous on both accounts. He is a
huge
> ford nut.
> We are doing well. Had confirmed today that i am 4 weeks pregnant.
I
> know it is so early on and we arent really telling people but i
feel
> some what calm amd sooo excited i wanna shout it from the roof tops.
> Strange really all things considered especially after the
> miscarriage but it just feels right.
> Glad to see you on line. Ill be thinking of you on April 1.
> --- In as_ap@..., "Elizabeth" <epsmith@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello to all,
> > How is every one going? just thought that i would check in and
see
> > whats happening with every one. All is going Ok with me. i am
> booked in
> > for my 12-13wk scan on the 1st of April. I'm getting excited but
> also
> > terrified as well. I do have some possible badish news though. i
> found
> > alump on my leg a few weeks ago but didn't think any thing of it
> cause
> > it wasn't sore or any thing. i forgot all about it until last
week
> when
> > my leg was really aching and really sore in the one spot. When i
> felt
> > over it i felt the lump again. I went to the doctor and he said
> that if
> > it hasn't gonw within 2 weeks i have to go back and he will do a
> biopsy
> > to find out what it is. Its been a week now and the pain and the
> lump
> > is still there, although it hasn't gotten any bigger but in
saying
> that
> > it hasn't gotten any smaller. its all a bit scary but I'm sure it
> will
> > be fine (i'm hoping any way). Good news is that we are getting a
> new
> > car. We have bought a new 7 seater ford territory and in doing so
> > managed to win a 82cm plasma tv, YEY for me, I never win any
thing
> so I
> > am rather stocked. Any way, I can hear my bed calling me and its
> only
> > 8:40pm. Hope to hear from you all soon. Take care.
> > Liz
> >
>

Liz
That is great news besides your leg and so happy you got a tv with
your car, my husband would be jealous on both accounts. He is a huge
ford nut.
We are doing well. Had confirmed today that i am 4 weeks pregnant. I
know it is so early on and we arent really telling people but i feel
some what calm amd sooo excited i wanna shout it from the roof tops.
Strange really all things considered especially after the
miscarriage but it just feels right.
Glad to see you on line. Ill be thinking of you on April 1.
--- In as_ap@..., "Elizabeth" <epsmith@...> wrote:
>
> Hello to all,
> How is every one going? just thought that i would check in and see
> whats happening with every one. All is going Ok with me. i am
booked in
> for my 12-13wk scan on the 1st of April. I'm getting excited but
also
> terrified as well. I do have some possible badish news though. i
found
> alump on my leg a few weeks ago but didn't think any thing of it
cause
> it wasn't sore or any thing. i forgot all about it until last week
when
> my leg was really aching and really sore in the one spot. When i
felt
> over it i felt the lump again. I went to the doctor and he said
that if
> it hasn't gonw within 2 weeks i have to go back and he will do a
biopsy
> to find out what it is. Its been a week now and the pain and the
lump
> is still there, although it hasn't gotten any bigger but in saying
that
> it hasn't gotten any smaller. its all a bit scary but I'm sure it
will
> be fine (i'm hoping any way). Good news is that we are getting a
new
> car. We have bought a new 7 seater ford territory and in doing so
> managed to win a 82cm plasma tv, YEY for me, I never win any thing
so I
> am rather stocked. Any way, I can hear my bed calling me and its
only
> 8:40pm. Hope to hear from you all soon. Take care.
> Liz
>

Hello to all,
How is every one going? just thought that i would check in and see
whats happening with every one. All is going Ok with me. i am booked in
for my 12-13wk scan on the 1st of April. I'm getting excited but also
terrified as well. I do have some possible badish news though. i found
alump on my leg a few weeks ago but didn't think any thing of it cause
it wasn't sore or any thing. i forgot all about it until last week when
my leg was really aching and really sore in the one spot. When i felt
over it i felt the lump again. I went to the doctor and he said that if
it hasn't gonw within 2 weeks i have to go back and he will do a biopsy
to find out what it is. Its been a week now and the pain and the lump
is still there, although it hasn't gotten any bigger but in saying that
it hasn't gotten any smaller. its all a bit scary but I'm sure it will
be fine (i'm hoping any way). Good news is that we are getting a new
car. We have bought a new 7 seater ford territory and in doing so
managed to win a 82cm plasma tv, YEY for me, I never win any thing so I
am rather stocked. Any way, I can hear my bed calling me and its only
8:40pm. Hope to hear from you all soon. Take care.
Liz

Liz, I know how scary that is.  I also had a significant bleed with my
2nd pg (Jed & Dael) and I was also told the same thing.  It stopped
within a few days, and I went all the way to 37 weeks and delivered 2
healthy babies.

You need to stay positive.  Unfortunately, there is not much you can do
to prevent a miscarriage, but to worry now about the 'what'ifs' is not
good for you or the baby.

I am hoping with all my heart that this is just a scare, and a way for
your body telling you to take it a little easier.

Keep us informed.

Thinking of you.

Leigh
xx