Hi Everyone,
Nice to hear from you again. It had been so quiet for such a long
time. I check the group several times a day hoping someone's out
there...
The last week has been hard. I seem to be on the losing end of
everything in life at the moment.
Vanessa

--- In as_ap@..., "pettinabeves" <pettinabeves@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> We are doing well here. Nathaniel is growing and is soo cute. Not
> very settled during the day tho which makes things hard. Bella is
> being a wonderful big sister and the last few days i have really
> felt Mercy Grace not being here. We had santa photos and i noticed
> her missing.
>
> Thiings are obviously busy at the moment for us and there is not
> much me time but that is one of the pleasures of being a mum.
>
> Liz, i have been thinking of you often and hope things get better.
>
> Vanessa, I cant believe it is almost christmas ( your first without
> Matthew) I will be praying for you this year and hope you are all
> doing ok.
>
>
>
> --- In as_ap@..., "Jenny" <jenzi83@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Things have been pretty busy up my end.  Wild weather, babies
> being
> > born.  All has kept me busy.  We were'nt hit by the storm very
> badly
> > at all but my heart goes out to all that were.  One of the
> neighbours
> > trees crashed over our fence and into our yard but our yard is
> large
> > and very bare so we were lucky it did'nt hit anything.
> Treeloppers
> > and insurance companies have been kept very busy so who knows
when
> > the landlords will be able to get it removed.
> >
> > My good friend Lisa gave birth to her son Will just over 4 weeks
> ago
> > and she came to visit on Thursday, and I got to hold him (first
> baby
> > I've held since Isabell).  Absolutely adorable.  My other good
> friend
> > Simone gave birth to her daughter Ella on Monday and we went to
> see
> > them today.  She is just gorgoeus.  Can't wait for my turn, still
> has
> > not worked out but won't be giving up anytime soon.
> >
> > Liz, hope your blood pressure settles down.  Troy was born 2
weeks
> > early and the day of his birth I had actually gone to Garden City
> > (very big shopping complex) to buy toys at Toys R Us.  As we had
> > parked on the wrong side we had to walk from one side to the
other
> > and back again (I had refused to be driven).  I'm positive that
is
> > why I went into labour early!  Might work for you too if your
> blood
> > pressure comes down.
> >
> > Lea,  I know hard it is to decide whether to go back to work or
> not.
> > I went back to work for one month when my maternity leave had
> ended
> > with Troy.  Once away from Troy, I realised I could'nt be away
> from
> > him for hours on end every day.  I love being a vet nurse but I
> love
> > Troy way more.  We do have to live on only one wage but its a
> > sacrifice we were both willing to make.  I guess once you go back
> to
> > work, you'll know whether you want to stay or not.
> >
> > Anyways, better stop before this turns into a novel.  Hope
> everyone
> > is keeping well.
> > Jenny
> >
> >
> > --- In as_ap@..., "Lea" <leannec72@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello there my dear friends
> > >
> > > Just thought I'd check in on how you're all doing...you've all
> been
> > > very quiet.
> > >
> > > My life has been a bit hectic of late, no idea why or what
we've
> > been
> > > up to but it's just crazy.
> > >
> > > Like Liz mentioned in her message, my children have all been a
> bit
> > > feral too.  Lots of rain and that trapped feeling have had them
> > > climbing the walls.  Arden is cutting teeth which is making him
> > > bonkers and we're not getting much sleep....ahh it's all good
> fun.
> > >
> > > I've been facing my return to work next month which, thank god,
> I
> > have
> > > put off until Feb next year (after Arden's 1st birthday).  I am
> > really
> > > having trouble considering leaving my kids to go back to work,
> but
> > > worse than that, my office is one of those places where people
> just
> > > drag you down and make you miserable.  I am really not prepared
> for
> > > that emotionally and worry about how I'll react.  I love my
> work, I
> > > really do, but being in a negative environment always got me
> down,
> > > with my bullsh!t-o-meter working overtime since my anen
> pregnancy I
> > > can't see myself putting up with it long....yikes.
> > >
> > > Anyhooooo, I look forward to hearing from you all.
> > >
> > > Big hugs
> > >
> > > Lea xxxxxx
> > >
> >
>

Hi

We are doing well here. Nathaniel is growing and is soo cute. Not
very settled during the day tho which makes things hard. Bella is
being a wonderful big sister and the last few days i have really
felt Mercy Grace not being here. We had santa photos and i noticed
her missing.

Thiings are obviously busy at the moment for us and there is not
much me time but that is one of the pleasures of being a mum.

Liz, i have been thinking of you often and hope things get better.

Vanessa, I cant believe it is almost christmas ( your first without
Matthew) I will be praying for you this year and hope you are all
doing ok.



--- In as_ap@..., "Jenny" <jenzi83@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Things have been pretty busy up my end.  Wild weather, babies
being
> born.  All has kept me busy.  We were'nt hit by the storm very
badly
> at all but my heart goes out to all that were.  One of the
neighbours
> trees crashed over our fence and into our yard but our yard is
large
> and very bare so we were lucky it did'nt hit anything.
Treeloppers
> and insurance companies have been kept very busy so who knows when
> the landlords will be able to get it removed.
>
> My good friend Lisa gave birth to her son Will just over 4 weeks
ago
> and she came to visit on Thursday, and I got to hold him (first
baby
> I've held since Isabell).  Absolutely adorable.  My other good
friend
> Simone gave birth to her daughter Ella on Monday and we went to
see
> them today.  She is just gorgoeus.  Can't wait for my turn, still
has
> not worked out but won't be giving up anytime soon.
>
> Liz, hope your blood pressure settles down.  Troy was born 2 weeks
> early and the day of his birth I had actually gone to Garden City
> (very big shopping complex) to buy toys at Toys R Us.  As we had
> parked on the wrong side we had to walk from one side to the other
> and back again (I had refused to be driven).  I'm positive that is
> why I went into labour early!  Might work for you too if your
blood
> pressure comes down.
>
> Lea,  I know hard it is to decide whether to go back to work or
not.
> I went back to work for one month when my maternity leave had
ended
> with Troy.  Once away from Troy, I realised I could'nt be away
from
> him for hours on end every day.  I love being a vet nurse but I
love
> Troy way more.  We do have to live on only one wage but its a
> sacrifice we were both willing to make.  I guess once you go back
to
> work, you'll know whether you want to stay or not.
>
> Anyways, better stop before this turns into a novel.  Hope
everyone
> is keeping well.
> Jenny
>
>
> --- In as_ap@..., "Lea" <leannec72@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello there my dear friends
> >
> > Just thought I'd check in on how you're all doing...you've all
been
> > very quiet.
> >
> > My life has been a bit hectic of late, no idea why or what we've
> been
> > up to but it's just crazy.
> >
> > Like Liz mentioned in her message, my children have all been a
bit
> > feral too.  Lots of rain and that trapped feeling have had them
> > climbing the walls.  Arden is cutting teeth which is making him
> > bonkers and we're not getting much sleep....ahh it's all good
fun.
> >
> > I've been facing my return to work next month which, thank god,
I
> have
> > put off until Feb next year (after Arden's 1st birthday).  I am
> really
> > having trouble considering leaving my kids to go back to work,
but
> > worse than that, my office is one of those places where people
just
> > drag you down and make you miserable.  I am really not prepared
for
> > that emotionally and worry about how I'll react.  I love my
work, I
> > really do, but being in a negative environment always got me
down,
> > with my bullsh!t-o-meter working overtime since my anen
pregnancy I
> > can't see myself putting up with it long....yikes.
> >
> > Anyhooooo, I look forward to hearing from you all.
> >
> > Big hugs
> >
> > Lea xxxxxx
> >
>

Hello all,

Things have been pretty busy up my end.  Wild weather, babies being
born.  All has kept me busy.  We were'nt hit by the storm very badly
at all but my heart goes out to all that were.  One of the neighbours
trees crashed over our fence and into our yard but our yard is large
and very bare so we were lucky it did'nt hit anything.  Treeloppers
and insurance companies have been kept very busy so who knows when
the landlords will be able to get it removed.

My good friend Lisa gave birth to her son Will just over 4 weeks ago
and she came to visit on Thursday, and I got to hold him (first baby
I've held since Isabell).  Absolutely adorable.  My other good friend
Simone gave birth to her daughter Ella on Monday and we went to see
them today.  She is just gorgoeus.  Can't wait for my turn, still has
not worked out but won't be giving up anytime soon.

Liz, hope your blood pressure settles down.  Troy was born 2 weeks
early and the day of his birth I had actually gone to Garden City
(very big shopping complex) to buy toys at Toys R Us.  As we had
parked on the wrong side we had to walk from one side to the other
and back again (I had refused to be driven).  I'm positive that is
why I went into labour early!  Might work for you too if your blood
pressure comes down.

Lea,  I know hard it is to decide whether to go back to work or not.
I went back to work for one month when my maternity leave had ended
with Troy.  Once away from Troy, I realised I could'nt be away from
him for hours on end every day.  I love being a vet nurse but I love
Troy way more.  We do have to live on only one wage but its a
sacrifice we were both willing to make.  I guess once you go back to
work, you'll know whether you want to stay or not.

Anyways, better stop before this turns into a novel.  Hope everyone
is keeping well.
Jenny


--- In as_ap@..., "Lea" <leannec72@...> wrote:
>
> Hello there my dear friends
>
> Just thought I'd check in on how you're all doing...you've all been
> very quiet.
>
> My life has been a bit hectic of late, no idea why or what we've
been
> up to but it's just crazy.
>
> Like Liz mentioned in her message, my children have all been a bit
> feral too.  Lots of rain and that trapped feeling have had them
> climbing the walls.  Arden is cutting teeth which is making him
> bonkers and we're not getting much sleep....ahh it's all good fun.
>
> I've been facing my return to work next month which, thank god, I
have
> put off until Feb next year (after Arden's 1st birthday).  I am
really
> having trouble considering leaving my kids to go back to work, but
> worse than that, my office is one of those places where people just
> drag you down and make you miserable.  I am really not prepared for
> that emotionally and worry about how I'll react.  I love my work, I
> really do, but being in a negative environment always got me down,
> with my bullsh!t-o-meter working overtime since my anen pregnancy I
> can't see myself putting up with it long....yikes.
>
> Anyhooooo, I look forward to hearing from you all.
>
> Big hugs
>
> Lea xxxxxx
>

Hello there my dear friends

Just thought I'd check in on how you're all doing...you've all been
very quiet.

My life has been a bit hectic of late, no idea why or what we've been
up to but it's just crazy.

Like Liz mentioned in her message, my children have all been a bit
feral too.  Lots of rain and that trapped feeling have had them
climbing the walls.  Arden is cutting teeth which is making him
bonkers and we're not getting much sleep....ahh it's all good fun.

I've been facing my return to work next month which, thank god, I have
put off until Feb next year (after Arden's 1st birthday).  I am really
having trouble considering leaving my kids to go back to work, but
worse than that, my office is one of those places where people just
drag you down and make you miserable.  I am really not prepared for
that emotionally and worry about how I'll react.  I love my work, I
really do, but being in a negative environment always got me down,
with my bullsh!t-o-meter working overtime since my anen pregnancy I
can't see myself putting up with it long....yikes.

Anyhooooo, I look forward to hearing from you all.

Big hugs

Lea xxxxxx

Liz it's wonderful to hear from you, and I can't believe that you have
5 weeks to go til you bring this new little person into the world.  I
hope that things settle with your blood pressure, you must feel awful
for it being high.

I can almost see you trying everything in a few weeks time to make
this bubba come along a little early (don't know many women who don't
feel that way in the last month or so haaa), holler if you need some
tips as I seem to be getting quite good at having my bubs eary hee hee.

Sending big hugs and pats on your belly, keep us up to date on how
you're doing in the next few weeks hon.

Lea xxxxxx

hey every one,
How are you all doing? its been very quite in here over the past week
or so. I just wanted to give you all an update on whats happening with
me. I finally had a appointment with the hospital yesterday and my lil
man is no longer breech. The midwife thought he was so they sent me for
a quick scan and he is definatly head down. The only problem was that
my blood pressure was abit high, 148/92. I had high blood pressure with
my first son and they ended up inducing me with him as they couldn't
keep it down and i had developed pre-eclampsia so it must be a boy
thing as it seems to be starting again. I go back next thursday for
another check up as i'm on weekly visits now so we'll see what it is
then. I have 5wks to go but in 2wks time i'm going to do every thing i
can think of to make him come out that little bit early. I would really
love it if he was out before christmas. I need some thing good to come
out of this year. Other than that not alot is happening my end. Kids
are being feral as always and slowly driving me mad. Hope all is well
with every one in here. Take care of yourselves.
Liz xoxoxox

Hey Liz,
Sounds like you are on a huge emotional roller coaster and am sad to
hear how hard it has been for you lately.  Hope things perk up for
you soon.
Take Care
Jenny

--- In as_ap@..., "Elizabeth" <epsmith@...> wrote:
>
> Hey every one,
>
> Welcome to the new people who have joined our group. I hope you
find
> as much peace and comfort in being with us as what i have. The
ladies
> in here are such a support and are truely inspirational.
>
> Lea and Pettina- Thanks for your get well wishes, i can safely say
> that i'm feeling much better (health wise) than what i was last
week.
> I think it was friday when i really perked up but still felt abit
> crappy up until sunday night. Lea, i'm due on the 3rd of january
> (7wks 3days and counting). I really am over it now, i'm sick of
being
> so hot and uncomfortable and its only gonna get worse. Who's crazy
> idea was it to be pregnant in the summer time???????
>
> Monday was the anniversary of my heartbreaking choice to terminate
> our baby girl Angela. I can't believe that its been one year
already.
> I handled it really well on monday, mostly because i was flat out
all
> day and really didn't get time to think about it. Yesterday and
today
> has been a different story. Neils back at work, so its just me and
> the kids and i have spent alot of the time crying. The stupid thing
> is that i don't really know how to feel. I'm still deeply saddened
> that she's not here with us but at the same time i'm excited about
> this pregnancy and then i feel guilty about being excited and
scared
> shitless (sorry about the french) that some things going to go
wrong
> and its just never ending. All these mixed emotions are driving me
> insane. I just wanna be happy or sad, not every thing at the one
> time. Does any of this make any sence to any one? i don't think it
> even makes sence to me.
>
> Any way, i'm not going to carry on with all this stuff about me
> otherwise i'll be here for weeks. I hope every one else is doing
ok.
> Take care every one.
>
> Love liz xoxoxoxoxoxox
>
> --- In as_ap@..., "Lea" <leannec72@> wrote:
> >
> > Liz, darling I am feeling great, no need to worry about me...how
> are
> > you feeling?  I hope you're recovering after your bout of gastro,
> > what misery that is, but when pregnant it's 100 times worse!
> >
> > What is your due date Liz?  How are you feeling?
> >
> > --- In as_ap@..., "Elizabeth" <epsmith@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey every one,
> > > Firstly here's a huge but belated CONGRATULATIONS to Pettina on
> > the
> > > safe arrival of your new little man. Give him a big hug and
kiss
> > from
> > > me ok.
> > >
> > > Not alot has been happening my end. I had a phone call at
3:30am
> > > saturday morning from the local police asking me to go pick up
my
> > > drunken sister, so i wasn't really impressed about that. then
> i've
> > > had this bug since Saturday afternoon. i can't stop vomiting
and
> > my
> > > head won't stop spinning. Ended up going to hospital on sunday
> > arvo
> > > and i also have a kidney infection. i thought i was over it all
> on
> > > monday but then yesterday it came back and i had to get neil
home
> > > from work to look after the kids coz i couldn't move. I spent
the
> > day
> > > with my head in the toilet. I still feel crappy today but not
as
> > bad
> > > as what i did. i have managed to keep down some dry toast today
> so
> > > thats gotta be some thing.
> > >
> > > Well thats about all the goss i have, sorry its nothing
> > interesting.
> > > hope every one is doing well. Talk to you all again soon, take
> care
> > >
> > > Liz xoxoxoxoxox
> > >
> > > P.S. Lea, i hope your feeling better now
> > >
> >
>

Hello Renee,
Welcome to the group, sorry to hear about your baby Gabriel.
Hopefully we can all support and listen to you when you have
something you want to say or get off your chest.  I have found this
group a great help with dealing with the loss of Isabell.  Hope to
hear more from you soon.
Take care all
Jenny

--- In as_ap@..., "pettinabeves" <pettinabeves@...>
wrote:
>
> renee
>
> i am so sorry for your loss. i am glad you were able to name your
> sweet little boy.
> feel free to say whatever is on your mind here. we are a very open
> group.
>
> --- In as_ap@..., "renee_lowe83" <renee_lowe83@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Im not sure what to say, My name is Renee and on this coming
> Monday it
> > will be 5 months since I had to say goodbye to my Gabriel David.
I
> was
> > 12 weeks when I had the scan that changed everything and just
> under 2
> > weeks later i was induced and delivered my baby.They couldnt tell
> the
> > sex but I felt i was having a boy.
> >
>

renee

i am so sorry for your loss. i am glad you were able to name your
sweet little boy.
feel free to say whatever is on your mind here. we are a very open
group.

--- In as_ap@..., "renee_lowe83" <renee_lowe83@...>
wrote:
>
> Im not sure what to say, My name is Renee and on this coming
Monday it
> will be 5 months since I had to say goodbye to my Gabriel David. I
was
> 12 weeks when I had the scan that changed everything and just
under 2
> weeks later i was induced and delivered my baby.They couldnt tell
the
> sex but I felt i was having a boy.
>

Liz

As ive said before you are definitely not alone in the emotional
state you are in. The truth be known i was hospitalised for 1.5
weeks before they induced Nathaniel due to anxiety and depression.
The going got really tough for us all, Including John and Isabella.
I am on medication and probably will be for a while but i am doing
really well and feeling on top of things now. It took me a few days
to adjust to the fact that Nathaniel was mine to keep. I felt
detached from him until then.

I will be thinking of you and feel free to send me an emal if you
wanna chat.

Pettina xoxoxo
--- In as_ap@..., "Elizabeth" <epsmith@...> wrote:
>
> Hey every one,
>
> Welcome to the new people who have joined our group. I hope you
find
> as much peace and comfort in being with us as what i have. The
ladies
> in here are such a support and are truely inspirational.
>
> Lea and Pettina- Thanks for your get well wishes, i can safely say
> that i'm feeling much better (health wise) than what i was last
week.
> I think it was friday when i really perked up but still felt abit
> crappy up until sunday night. Lea, i'm due on the 3rd of january
> (7wks 3days and counting). I really am over it now, i'm sick of
being
> so hot and uncomfortable and its only gonna get worse. Who's crazy
> idea was it to be pregnant in the summer time???????
>
> Monday was the anniversary of my heartbreaking choice to terminate
> our baby girl Angela. I can't believe that its been one year
already.
> I handled it really well on monday, mostly because i was flat out
all
> day and really didn't get time to think about it. Yesterday and
today
> has been a different story. Neils back at work, so its just me and
> the kids and i have spent alot of the time crying. The stupid
thing
> is that i don't really know how to feel. I'm still deeply saddened
> that she's not here with us but at the same time i'm excited about
> this pregnancy and then i feel guilty about being excited and
scared
> shitless (sorry about the french) that some things going to go
wrong
> and its just never ending. All these mixed emotions are driving me
> insane. I just wanna be happy or sad, not every thing at the one
> time. Does any of this make any sence to any one? i don't think it
> even makes sence to me.
>
> Any way, i'm not going to carry on with all this stuff about me
> otherwise i'll be here for weeks. I hope every one else is doing
ok.
> Take care every one.
>
> Love liz xoxoxoxoxoxox
>
> --- In as_ap@..., "Lea" <leannec72@> wrote:
> >
> > Liz, darling I am feeling great, no need to worry about me...how
> are
> > you feeling?  I hope you're recovering after your bout of
gastro,
> > what misery that is, but when pregnant it's 100 times worse!
> >
> > What is your due date Liz?  How are you feeling?
> >
> > --- In as_ap@..., "Elizabeth" <epsmith@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey every one,
> > > Firstly here's a huge but belated CONGRATULATIONS to Pettina
on
> > the
> > > safe arrival of your new little man. Give him a big hug and
kiss
> > from
> > > me ok.
> > >
> > > Not alot has been happening my end. I had a phone call at
3:30am
> > > saturday morning from the local police asking me to go pick up
my
> > > drunken sister, so i wasn't really impressed about that. then
> i've
> > > had this bug since Saturday afternoon. i can't stop vomiting
and
> > my
> > > head won't stop spinning. Ended up going to hospital on sunday
> > arvo
> > > and i also have a kidney infection. i thought i was over it
all
> on
> > > monday but then yesterday it came back and i had to get neil
home
> > > from work to look after the kids coz i couldn't move. I spent
the
> > day
> > > with my head in the toilet. I still feel crappy today but not
as
> > bad
> > > as what i did. i have managed to keep down some dry toast
today
> so
> > > thats gotta be some thing.
> > >
> > > Well thats about all the goss i have, sorry its nothing
> > interesting.
> > > hope every one is doing well. Talk to you all again soon, take
> care
> > >
> > > Liz xoxoxoxoxox
> > >
> > > P.S. Lea, i hope your feeling better now
> > >
> >
>

Vanessa that is just beautiful

--- In as_ap@..., "Jenny" <jenzi83@...> wrote:
>
> The things that little ones say seem to make more sense than what
> some adults say.  How very wise she is.
>
> --- In as_ap@..., "Vanessa Murphy"
> <chrisandvanessamurphy@> wrote:
> >
> > This makes me think of something Anabelle (my 2 and a half year
> old)
> > said the other day about Matthew. She picked up one of the cards
we
> > received and said "Mummy, I'm going to read a story. Once upon a
> > time, Matthew was in heaven with Jesus and they were playing
ball
> > games!"
> >
> >
> > --- In as_ap@..., "Jenny" <jenzi83@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I feel exactly the same.  Imagining all our angels chasing
> balloons
> > > around and having a ball makes me smile.
> > >
> > > --- In as_ap@..., "pettinabeves"
<pettinabeves@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Jenny
> > > >
> > > > That is a beautiful message for Isabell.
> > > > We also sent mercy balloons for her birthday. I love
imagining
> > all
> > > the
> > > > little babies chasing after them thru heaven.
> > > >
> > > > --- In as_ap@..., "Lea" <leannec72@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Jenny, Isabell is going to be so proud to have that
birthday
> > > message
> > > > > printed in her honour, it's a really wonderful idea to
mark
> > such
> > > a
> > > > > bittersweet day with a message in print, and she's going
to
> > have
> > > a
> > > > > ball showing off that balloon to all her angel friends as
it
> > > floats
> > > > up
> > > > > just for her!!!  I am sure the next month is going to be
full
> > of
> > > > > emotional ups and downs, don't hesitate to lean on us
honey.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lea xxxxxx
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Im not sure what to say, My name is Renee and on this coming Monday it
will be 5 months since I had to say goodbye to my Gabriel David. I was
12 weeks when I had the scan that changed everything and just under 2
weeks later i was induced and delivered my baby.They couldnt tell the
sex but I felt i was having a boy.

Hey every one,

Welcome to the new people who have joined our group. I hope you find
as much peace and comfort in being with us as what i have. The ladies
in here are such a support and are truely inspirational.

Lea and Pettina- Thanks for your get well wishes, i can safely say
that i'm feeling much better (health wise) than what i was last week.
I think it was friday when i really perked up but still felt abit
crappy up until sunday night. Lea, i'm due on the 3rd of january
(7wks 3days and counting). I really am over it now, i'm sick of being
so hot and uncomfortable and its only gonna get worse. Who's crazy
idea was it to be pregnant in the summer time???????

Monday was the anniversary of my heartbreaking choice to terminate
our baby girl Angela. I can't believe that its been one year already.
I handled it really well on monday, mostly because i was flat out all
day and really didn't get time to think about it. Yesterday and today
has been a different story. Neils back at work, so its just me and
the kids and i have spent alot of the time crying. The stupid thing
is that i don't really know how to feel. I'm still deeply saddened
that she's not here with us but at the same time i'm excited about
this pregnancy and then i feel guilty about being excited and scared
shitless (sorry about the french) that some things going to go wrong
and its just never ending. All these mixed emotions are driving me
insane. I just wanna be happy or sad, not every thing at the one
time. Does any of this make any sence to any one? i don't think it
even makes sence to me.

Any way, i'm not going to carry on with all this stuff about me
otherwise i'll be here for weeks. I hope every one else is doing ok.
Take care every one.

Love liz xoxoxoxoxoxox

--- In as_ap@..., "Lea" <leannec72@...> wrote:
>
> Liz, darling I am feeling great, no need to worry about me...how
are
> you feeling?  I hope you're recovering after your bout of gastro,
> what misery that is, but when pregnant it's 100 times worse!
>
> What is your due date Liz?  How are you feeling?
>
> --- In as_ap@..., "Elizabeth" <epsmith@> wrote:
> >
> > Hey every one,
> > Firstly here's a huge but belated CONGRATULATIONS to Pettina on
> the
> > safe arrival of your new little man. Give him a big hug and kiss
> from
> > me ok.
> >
> > Not alot has been happening my end. I had a phone call at 3:30am
> > saturday morning from the local police asking me to go pick up my
> > drunken sister, so i wasn't really impressed about that. then
i've
> > had this bug since Saturday afternoon. i can't stop vomiting and
> my
> > head won't stop spinning. Ended up going to hospital on sunday
> arvo
> > and i also have a kidney infection. i thought i was over it all
on
> > monday but then yesterday it came back and i had to get neil home
> > from work to look after the kids coz i couldn't move. I spent the
> day
> > with my head in the toilet. I still feel crappy today but not as
> bad
> > as what i did. i have managed to keep down some dry toast today
so
> > thats gotta be some thing.
> >
> > Well thats about all the goss i have, sorry its nothing
> interesting.
> > hope every one is doing well. Talk to you all again soon, take
care
> >
> > Liz xoxoxoxoxox
> >
> > P.S. Lea, i hope your feeling better now
> >
>

The things that little ones say seem to make more sense than what
some adults say.  How very wise she is.

--- In as_ap@..., "Vanessa Murphy"
<chrisandvanessamurphy@...> wrote:
>
> This makes me think of something Anabelle (my 2 and a half year
old)
> said the other day about Matthew. She picked up one of the cards we
> received and said "Mummy, I'm going to read a story. Once upon a
> time, Matthew was in heaven with Jesus and they were playing ball
> games!"
>
>
> --- In as_ap@..., "Jenny" <jenzi83@> wrote:
> >
> > I feel exactly the same.  Imagining all our angels chasing
balloons
> > around and having a ball makes me smile.
> >
> > --- In as_ap@..., "pettinabeves" <pettinabeves@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Jenny
> > >
> > > That is a beautiful message for Isabell.
> > > We also sent mercy balloons for her birthday. I love imagining
> all
> > the
> > > little babies chasing after them thru heaven.
> > >
> > > --- In as_ap@..., "Lea" <leannec72@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Jenny, Isabell is going to be so proud to have that birthday
> > message
> > > > printed in her honour, it's a really wonderful idea to mark
> such
> > a
> > > > bittersweet day with a message in print, and she's going to
> have
> > a
> > > > ball showing off that balloon to all her angel friends as it
> > floats
> > > up
> > > > just for her!!!  I am sure the next month is going to be full
> of
> > > > emotional ups and downs, don't hesitate to lean on us honey.
> > > >
> > > > Lea xxxxxx
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

This makes me think of something Anabelle (my 2 and a half year old)
said the other day about Matthew. She picked up one of the cards we
received and said "Mummy, I'm going to read a story. Once upon a
time, Matthew was in heaven with Jesus and they were playing ball
games!"


--- In as_ap@..., "Jenny" <jenzi83@...> wrote:
>
> I feel exactly the same.  Imagining all our angels chasing balloons
> around and having a ball makes me smile.
>
> --- In as_ap@..., "pettinabeves" <pettinabeves@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Jenny
> >
> > That is a beautiful message for Isabell.
> > We also sent mercy balloons for her birthday. I love imagining
all
> the
> > little babies chasing after them thru heaven.
> >
> > --- In as_ap@..., "Lea" <leannec72@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Jenny, Isabell is going to be so proud to have that birthday
> message
> > > printed in her honour, it's a really wonderful idea to mark
such
> a
> > > bittersweet day with a message in print, and she's going to
have
> a
> > > ball showing off that balloon to all her angel friends as it
> floats
> > up
> > > just for her!!!  I am sure the next month is going to be full
of
> > > emotional ups and downs, don't hesitate to lean on us honey.
> > >
> > > Lea xxxxxx
> > >
> >
>

I feel exactly the same.  Imagining all our angels chasing balloons
around and having a ball makes me smile.

--- In as_ap@..., "pettinabeves" <pettinabeves@...>
wrote:
>
> Jenny
>
> That is a beautiful message for Isabell.
> We also sent mercy balloons for her birthday. I love imagining all
the
> little babies chasing after them thru heaven.
>
> --- In as_ap@..., "Lea" <leannec72@> wrote:
> >
> > Jenny, Isabell is going to be so proud to have that birthday
message
> > printed in her honour, it's a really wonderful idea to mark such
a
> > bittersweet day with a message in print, and she's going to have
a
> > ball showing off that balloon to all her angel friends as it
floats
> up
> > just for her!!!  I am sure the next month is going to be full of
> > emotional ups and downs, don't hesitate to lean on us honey.
> >
> > Lea xxxxxx
> >
>

Jenny

That is a beautiful message for Isabell.
We also sent mercy balloons for her birthday. I love imagining all the
little babies chasing after them thru heaven.

--- In as_ap@..., "Lea" <leannec72@...> wrote:
>
> Jenny, Isabell is going to be so proud to have that birthday message
> printed in her honour, it's a really wonderful idea to mark such a
> bittersweet day with a message in print, and she's going to have a
> ball showing off that balloon to all her angel friends as it floats
up
> just for her!!!  I am sure the next month is going to be full of
> emotional ups and downs, don't hesitate to lean on us honey.
>
> Lea xxxxxx
>

The subject heading says it all, I really do find myself blissed out
by the small things.

Today Sage, Nara and I (Arden was left with his Nan) went shopping and
called in on ~Ben~ at the cemetary on our way home.  It was so nice
seeing my two girls playing...though this may sound somewhat
strange...on the very patch of grass where Ben lays resting.  They
were giggling and singing Ben songs, it was just so precious and made
me feel really fulfilled.  It's as good as things can get, as close as
they could be to playing with their brother and it was just special.
Nara told Ben all about watching Playschool and going to her multiple
birth playgroup (with twins just like Nara and Ben she says).  We all
looked up at the clouds wizzing by fast in the wind and talked about
how far up heaven is too, and Sage and I talked about the big hug her
baby brother will give her when she joins him in the next life....and
she smiled a happy smile at the thought! Nara kissed one of Ben's
little trinkets goodbye, she thinks it's like kissing him I think.
Ahhh it all felt good.

It sucks getting in the car and leaving...but days like today make him
seem that little less far away.

Tammie, your photos of Danielle are just perfect, she was such a tiny
precious little angel, and I love the locket with her footprints, what
a really beautiful idea.  And aren't your Sean and Samantha gorgeous
kids,what a beautiful family you have.

Lea xxxxxx

Jenny, Isabell is going to be so proud to have that birthday message
printed in her honour, it's a really wonderful idea to mark such a
bittersweet day with a message in print, and she's going to have a
ball showing off that balloon to all her angel friends as it floats up
just for her!!!  I am sure the next month is going to be full of
emotional ups and downs, don't hesitate to lean on us honey.

Lea xxxxxx

I just thought I'd post the message for Isabell's bithday notice that
I've put in for the next sands newsletter.

Isabell Mary Cobban
06/12/07
Born Still, 20 weeks gestation

Happy first birthday baby girl.   We all miss you so so much.  There
is a huge hole in our hearts that nothing will be able to fill.  Not
a day goes by that we don't think or talk about about you.  We wish
you were with us here.  But, you were needed up in heaven.   We know
that you are happy there with all your angel friends.  We will all
join you up there someday.  You will never feel pain or unhappiness,
which eases our pain a little.

We have learnt so much about life and living from losing you.  We
have learnt not to take each moment for granted and to love the ones
around us.  We have also learnt to be more patient and
understanding.  It is a lesson we learnt the hard way.

We hope you like the balloon we send up to you.
Love you always and forever our precious baby girl
Mummy, Daddy and your big brother Troy

Hello all,

Welcome to all the new members.  Tammie, your photos are great.  The
photos of Danielle are beuatiful, they are almost exactly the same as
the ones I have of Isabell (Isabell was born at 20 weeks.)  Samantha
and Sean are gorgeous kids, you must be so proud.   All the new members
can read my story which is in the files section if you want to.
Vanessa, the photo of you and Chris is just beautiful and also brought
a tear to my eye.

Hope everyone is keeping well
Jenny

I would like to welcome new member Renee to AS~AP, thank you for
joining us, I dearly hope that you will find comfort in being in the
company of others who have also been touched by anencephaly.

Please feel free to share your story with us if/when you would like
to, we are here to listen whenever you need us.

By the way, I'm Lea, co-founder of the group, I gave birth to boy/girl
twins in June 06, our son ~Ben~ was diagnosed with anencephaly at our
NT scan at 12 weeks gestation.

Lea xxxxxx

That is the most beautiful photo. It brought tears to my eyes. Ohh you
must be soo proud of such a beautiful little man. Words cant express
how that photo made me feel. Im lost for words.(lets just blame post
baby hormones.)

Hi Lea,
Thanks for the opportunity to share our photos. I have one very
special photo of me and Matthew taken very soon after birth which I
love and I would love to share it with you all. It's in black and
white. Because Matthew lived for only an hour, all the photos taken
of him alive were taken before we put his hat (and other clothes) on
(he was wrapped up in a blanket pretty quickly, but we took very few
photos in these previous minutes). I have a few friends who have been
happy to see these "raw" shots of him, which I am very grateful for.
He is my beautiful baby boy and I wish I could show him off to
everyone. My Dad has seen the pictures, but doesn't think it would be
helpful for my mum to see them. She's not really communicating with
me about her feelings or asking about mine, so it's up to me to bring
Matthew up and sometimes I feel like I am imposing on them or
something by talking about him. Anyway, that's for another time....
Love Vanessa


--- In as_ap@..., "Lea" <leannec72@...> wrote:
>
> This is a message for all members, but especially our newcomers.
>
> Please feel free to add as many photos of your family as you would
> like to your own album here, you are more than welcome to share
> photos of any special event in your lives, share keepsakes you have
> for your angels, resting place photos, pictures of your darling
> angel babies, belly photos, ultrasound images....the possibilities
> are endless.
>
> Part of the wonderful thing about groups like AS~AP is the
> friendships we form here, and I know for me, seeing each other's
> lives in photos makes me feel that little closer to each of you.
>
> So many of us don't have photos of the special souls who we had to
> say goodbye to due to Anencephaly that we feel confident to share
> with others, many of you may have no photos at all but only
> ultrasound images to show, here is a wonderful place for you to
cast
> aside reservations and show of the beautiful little people who
> touched your lives so much with those who will understand just how
> perfect these children are, were and will always be.
>
> Only recently I showed off a couple of photos of my precious boy to
> some friends who hadn't really seen the extent of Ben's condition
> before, they were so moved by them and thought he was just perfect
> which made me proud as punch!
>

This is a message for all members, but especially our newcomers.

Please feel free to add as many photos of your family as you would
like to your own album here, you are more than welcome to share
photos of any special event in your lives, share keepsakes you have
for your angels, resting place photos, pictures of your darling
angel babies, belly photos, ultrasound images....the possibilities
are endless.

Part of the wonderful thing about groups like AS~AP is the
friendships we form here, and I know for me, seeing each other's
lives in photos makes me feel that little closer to each of you.

So many of us don't have photos of the special souls who we had to
say goodbye to due to Anencephaly that we feel confident to share
with others, many of you may have no photos at all but only
ultrasound images to show, here is a wonderful place for you to cast
aside reservations and show of the beautiful little people who
touched your lives so much with those who will understand just how
perfect these children are, were and will always be.

Only recently I showed off a couple of photos of my precious boy to
some friends who hadn't really seen the extent of Ben's condition
before, they were so moved by them and thought he was just perfect
which made me proud as punch!

Jenny your photos are beautiful, Troy is such a dear little man, love
his birthday cake face!  And Matt's tattoo for Isabell is just
fantastic, what a loving gesture from her daddy!

Lea

Liz, darling I am feeling great, no need to worry about me...how are
you feeling?  I hope you're recovering after your bout of gastro,
what misery that is, but when pregnant it's 100 times worse!

What is your due date Liz?  How are you feeling?

--- In as_ap@..., "Elizabeth" <epsmith@...> wrote:
>
> Hey every one,
> Firstly here's a huge but belated CONGRATULATIONS to Pettina on
the
> safe arrival of your new little man. Give him a big hug and kiss
from
> me ok.
>
> Not alot has been happening my end. I had a phone call at 3:30am
> saturday morning from the local police asking me to go pick up my
> drunken sister, so i wasn't really impressed about that. then i've
> had this bug since Saturday afternoon. i can't stop vomiting and
my
> head won't stop spinning. Ended up going to hospital on sunday
arvo
> and i also have a kidney infection. i thought i was over it all on
> monday but then yesterday it came back and i had to get neil home
> from work to look after the kids coz i couldn't move. I spent the
day
> with my head in the toilet. I still feel crappy today but not as
bad
> as what i did. i have managed to keep down some dry toast today so
> thats gotta be some thing.
>
> Well thats about all the goss i have, sorry its nothing
interesting.
> hope every one is doing well. Talk to you all again soon, take care
>
> Liz xoxoxoxoxox
>
> P.S. Lea, i hope your feeling better now
>

That was an incredible introdutory message from you Tammie (we have
another Tammie here, this might get confusing!) thank you for your
honesty and sharing your heartfelt story with us all.

I too am from a family that has been touched repeatedly by
anencephaly & other neural tube defects (on my side - make me feel
guilty much you think?)....2 of my cousins have also had anen
babies, and I lost a cousin to spina bifida as an infant.

If only we didn't have this condition in common huh!  But I'm glad
that at least we all have each other, I felt terribly alone when we
first learnt of Ben's condition.

--- In as_ap@..., "Tammie" <madtado@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>      My name is Tammie and I lost my daughter to Anencephaly
almost 9
> 1/2 years ago.  It sounds so long ago, but I miss her and think
about
> her all the time.  Danielle was born at 21 weeks.  She passed
> peacefully in my arms.  Danielle has an older sister Samantha, 10
and a
> little brother Sean 8.  Three years after Danielle passed my
sister
> rang me to tell me that the baby she was carrying was also
> Anencephalic. My whole world fell apart.  Lisa asked me to be with
her
> when she gave birth to her precious baby.  How could I say no. She
gave
> birth to Jesse the most gorgeous baby boy.  I tried to hold it
> together, but after going through the whole thing again I went
into a
> depression.  Then I was told that my chances of having another
baby
> with a NT defect was 1 in 25, thats if I take the folic acid. Lisa
has
> had two healthy baby boys since she lost Jesse. Sebastian is 5 and
> Tyler is 2. I live in Melbourne and work as a Division 2 nurse. I
have
> been married for 11 years to a great man. I look forward to
getting to
> know you all and your precious Angels.
> Hugs
> Tammie (or just Tam)
> xx
>