Tony,
If your Macpac Cascade was more ergonomically designed (which it's not) the 3kgs
in weight would be irrelevant to your total weight. In fact, the weight in your
pack would be far more bearable.
Try an Osprey Pack for the best wieght carrying ability. (even though it weighs
about 3kgs!)
Regards
Perry Raison
---- Anthony Dyson <anthony.dyson@...> wrote:
> <tt>
> Greetings,<BR>
> <BR>
> Thanks for the responses to the pack weight query, which have been most<BR>
> helpful.<BR>
> Probably the first thing to go will be the Macpac Cascade pack (a mere<BR>
> 3kg).<BR>
> Tony<BR>
Hi Everyone, I've just joined the mailing group as a new member. I'm a 63
year old veterinarian who specializes in beef cattle work and love the wide
open spaces but I didn't get into serious bushwalking until later in life. I
started with the Bib track in 1996 and am now a full convert. Walking
"credits" include the full Bib track (in stages over 18months) Cape to Cape,
an aborted lone attempt at the east Stirlings, Larapinta trail (lone walk
over 13 days), Coast to coast across UK (lone walk) and more recently (July
2005) trekking in Tanzania's Ngorongoro crater conservation area and a climb
up the active volcano Oldoinyo Lengai (Masai for Mountain of God). I'm now
kinda thinking about a revisit to Turkey (drove across Asia & Europe in a VW
about 30 years ago) and doing the Lycian way but that is just a glint of an
idea at present.
I'm very much into the lightweight approach to hiking and weigh all gear
that plan to take. I was very glad of this for the Larapinta trail,which I
regard as the toughest walk I've done. By the time you put 7kg of water on
board for a 2 day waterless stretch you don't want to start off with a pack
weight of 20kg plus (as some people do) !
Meanwhile happy
hiking!
Regards Eric
Dr Eric Taylor BVSc MACVSc QDAH
Senior Lecturer In Beef Cattle Production
Division Of Veterinary and Biomedical sciences
Murdoch University WA 6150
Phone 08 93602645
Fax 08 93107390
Email <mailto:E.Taylor@...> E.Taylor@...
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Greetings,
Thanks for the responses to the pack weight query, which have been most
helpful.
Probably the first thing to go will be the Macpac Cascade pack (a mere
3kg).
It is most interesting to sit down with accurate scales and weigh
EVERYTHING, especially the little bits and pieces I have been carrying
"becos they might come in handy". The weight involved was quite amazing.
(For example, I never thought to weigh the groundsheet. It's 350g. Or
was. It's not going walkies any more).
With very little effort, I can see how to get rid of at least 5kg. With
a bit more effort, I hope to cut another 3kg or more. Might be nice to
walk with a smile, rather than a grimace!
Thanks for the encouragement,
Tony
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At 08:09 PM 2/08/2005, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>My name is Fiona. My two friends and I are looking into joining a
>bushwalking group.
>I am not sure if this group is what we are after as we are complete
>newcomers to bushwalking and need to build up our fitness..This is
>one reason for wanting to join a bushwalking group.
>
>If you could let me know if this group would be suitable for us and
>maybe has walks for all different levels of fitness.
Hi Fiona
This particular discussion group is more of a discussion group rather
than walking group as such. That said, walks are organised and promoted here.
I would suggest that you may find a Bushwalking Club, such as Perth
Bushwalkers Club more along the lines you are looking for.
There is a list of Perth clubs at <http://aushiker.com/links.htm#wa>.
Regards
Andrew
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Tony
I often go out for several days at a time, and rarely would I be carrying
more than 10-12 kg which includes my food, fuel and water. Only the harshest
of winter conditions, or a much longer period between resupply, would
require me to hike with a heavier load. This was not always the case. Like
so many others, and not too long ago, my empty pack alone would have weighed
in excess of a few kg. It was only after applying many of the ultralight
techniques discussed on a backpacking list that I subscribe to was I able to
greatly reduce my load. I do not advise anyone to do as I do, but I do
suggest that you take a look at the approaches to backpacking discussed on
this list and see if they interest / suit your style of bushwalking. Here is
the web address for "BackpackingLight"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackingLight/
Cheers
Philip
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Dyson" <anthony.dyson@...>
To: <aushiker@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:49 PM
Subject: [Aushiker] Pack weights
> Greetings,
>
> Interested in comments on pack weights we actually carry (or at least
> aim to carry) on walks involving a night or two in the bush (including a
> tent).
>
> This follows my experience at the weekend of having to drop out on day
> one of a planned two-day walk on the Murray Valley Circuit [legs just
> gave out at the bottom of a very long, steep descent. There was an
> opportunity to cadge a lift back to Dwellingup with some motorised
> campers, rather than struggle on and hold back the rest of the group, so
> I took it. The other walkers were extremely kind about it all].
>
> In retrospect, it was the right decision. Going on would have been
> silly, and no fun at all. I grossly underestimated my fitness level, but
> the pack weight was a significant factor.
>
> After returning home, my pack weighed in at about 20kg. Add water and
> some food already eaten, and it was nudging probably 23kg, which I know
> is far too much. But it really contained just the basics: tent (2kg),
> groundsheet, sleeping mat, sleeping bag and silk liner, stove, fuel,
> food (with a prudent amount extra), poncho, one cooking pot, eating
> utensils, headtorch, camp shoes, fleece jacket and thermals etc. Not
> even any spare clothes, except one pair of socks.
>
> Do you find it easy to get down to about 15kg or less? I realise that
> replacing the MacPac Cascade with a much lighter pack will help, but
> what weights do you actually get to carry?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
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I often go out for several days to a week into areas including the Snowy
Mountains in NSW. It would be an exceptional time for me to be carrying more
than 10 kg all up, including food,
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Dyson" <anthony.dyson@...>
To: <aushiker@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:49 PM
Subject: [Aushiker] Pack weights
> Greetings,
>
> Interested in comments on pack weights we actually carry (or at least
> aim to carry) on walks involving a night or two in the bush (including a
> tent).
>
> This follows my experience at the weekend of having to drop out on day
> one of a planned two-day walk on the Murray Valley Circuit [legs just
> gave out at the bottom of a very long, steep descent. There was an
> opportunity to cadge a lift back to Dwellingup with some motorised
> campers, rather than struggle on and hold back the rest of the group, so
> I took it. The other walkers were extremely kind about it all].
>
> In retrospect, it was the right decision. Going on would have been
> silly, and no fun at all. I grossly underestimated my fitness level, but
> the pack weight was a significant factor.
>
> After returning home, my pack weighed in at about 20kg. Add water and
> some food already eaten, and it was nudging probably 23kg, which I know
> is far too much. But it really contained just the basics: tent (2kg),
> groundsheet, sleeping mat, sleeping bag and silk liner, stove, fuel,
> food (with a prudent amount extra), poncho, one cooking pot, eating
> utensils, headtorch, camp shoes, fleece jacket and thermals etc. Not
> even any spare clothes, except one pair of socks.
>
> Do you find it easy to get down to about 15kg or less? I realise that
> replacing the MacPac Cascade with a much lighter pack will help, but
> what weights do you actually get to carry?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tony
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Hello,
My name is Fiona. My two friends and I are looking into joining a bushwalking
group.
I am not sure if this group is what we are after as we are complete newcomers to
bushwalking and need to build up our fitness..This is one reason for wanting to
join a bushwalking group.
If you could let me know if this group would be suitable for us and maybe has
walks for all different levels of fitness.
Thankyou
Fiona
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Hi there
I use a hoochi - I think that is how you spell it and a thin ground sheet
cut in half and a foam mattress and keep my weight to about 13kgs - I tend
to fall over with more. I carry water in bottles on a waist belt which
reduces pack weight and have a three bottle purifying system collecting
water as I travel - one to drink, one with iodine and one with the stuff
that makes it taste better. I use a gas stove and cook and drink everything
from my giant mug - it does work. Met a guy when walking Wilsons Prom who
had his pack down to 7kg which included a sort of hammock tent from America
and therefore probably no mat - mind you he was not adverse to sharing my
port which he had not included - 20kg would kill me. Happy trails - Wendy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Dyson" <anthony.dyson@...>
To: <aushiker@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 2:19 PM
Subject: [Aushiker] Pack weights
> Greetings,
> Interested in comments on pack weights we actually carry (or at least
> aim to carry) on walks involving a night or two in the bush (including a
> tent).
>
> This follows my experience at the weekend of having to drop out on day
> one of a planned two-day walk on the Murray Valley Circuit [legs just
> gave out at the bottom of a very long, steep descent. There was an
> opportunity to cadge a lift back to Dwellingup with some motorised
> campers, rather than struggle on and hold back the rest of the group, so
> I took it. The other walkers were extremely kind about it all].
>
> In retrospect, it was the right decision. Going on would have been
> silly, and no fun at all. I grossly underestimated my fitness level, but
> the pack weight was a significant factor.
>
> After returning home, my pack weighed in at about 20kg. Add water and
> some food already eaten, and it was nudging probably 23kg, which I know
> is far too much. But it really contained just the basics: tent (2kg),
> groundsheet, sleeping mat, sleeping bag and silk liner, stove, fuel,
> food (with a prudent amount extra), poncho, one cooking pot, eating
> utensils, headtorch, camp shoes, fleece jacket and thermals etc. Not
> even any spare clothes, except one pair of socks.
>
> Do you find it easy to get down to about 15kg or less? I realise that
> replacing the MacPac Cascade with a much lighter pack will help, but
> what weights do you actually get to carry?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tony
>
>
>
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Harry,
Know EXACTLY how you feel, and what you're talking about.
Recently came across a fantastic product that works wonders for me.
It's the size of an ordinary postal envelope, and contains chemicals of some
weird description, whatever.
What's important to you and me, is this stuff once exposed to oxygen via air
it reacts and gives off "HEAT" for 12 HRS.
The idea is to attach these envelopes onto your thermal directly over the
spot where the pain is most severe, and it works like a treat, (for me at
any rate) much like a hot water bottle of the days of old, yet remains hot
for the entire night and is not half as bulky or messy, at $2 bucks each,
they're even cost effective.
When at first introduced to these things, didn't think much of them, however
after spending one night in the bush with one attached to my back, was won
over completely.
If you'd like to try these things, give me a note and I'll steer you in the
right direction.
They're a darn sight more economical and easier to handle then a mattress.
Regards,
Eddy.
Hi Tony,
20kg is roughly what I'd carry for a weekend.
I have just returned from a leg on the Bib Track (Walpole to
Denmark). I weighed my gear before I left. For 6 days on the track
my pack weighed 19.5kg. This was made up of pack, gear and metho
(approx 12kg), 4.7kg food, 2L water and 700g guidebook, maps and book
to read.
I took a 675g bivvy bag instead of the tent (2.9kg) since we had the
Bib Track huts and Steve carried the Trangia (1350g) since I was
carrying the metho. :)
So for a weekend the weight would be similar except I'd carry the
tent but there would be less food.
BTW: We had planned to walk from Walpole to Albany but the going was
pretty tough once we reached Conspicuous Cliff and we decided the
walk to Denmark was enough. Thanks to Andrew and Harry for
suggesting a night in the canoe-shed. That suggestion shaved 8km off
the walk through the Quorum Nature Reserve. The 16 or so kms from
the canoe-shed to Boat Harbour Campsite was pretty tough and indeed
so was all the way into Denmark. I found this coastal portion of
the Bib Track much more demanding than any of the forest sections I
have completed.
Having said that, the trip was far from doom and gloom. It was
great! I saw a broaching whale near Pt Irwin, heaps of kangaroos, a
bandicoot, wedge tail eagles, blue wrens and the scenery was
spectacular. The coast around the Rame Head is magnificent.
Another highlight was walking through so many vegetation types from
Giants to Rame Head. Giants is in the Tingle/Karri forest but soon
you are in "Coastal Plains Trail" country. There's a bit of swampy
coastal vegetation and also coastal scrub. Fantastic.
Crossing the Irwin Inlet on the canoe was a bit hairy since we
crossed as the cold front of Wednesday 20/07/05 came through. Wading
the Parry Inlet was okay. The sand underfoot was firm and the water
only thigh deep.
Don't give up, Tony.
Regards,
Paul
On 02/08/2005, at 2:19 PM, Anthony Dyson wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Interested in comments on pack weights we actually carry (or at least
> aim to carry) on walks involving a night or two in the bush
> (including a
> tent).
>
> This follows my experience at the weekend of having to drop out on day
> one of a planned two-day walk on the Murray Valley Circuit [legs just
> gave out at the bottom of a very long, steep descent. There was an
> opportunity to cadge a lift back to Dwellingup with some motorised
> campers, rather than struggle on and hold back the rest of the
> group, so
> I took it. The other walkers were extremely kind about it all].
>
> In retrospect, it was the right decision. Going on would have been
> silly, and no fun at all. I grossly underestimated my fitness
> level, but
> the pack weight was a significant factor.
>
> After returning home, my pack weighed in at about 20kg. Add water and
> some food already eaten, and it was nudging probably 23kg, which I
> know
> is far too much. But it really contained just the basics: tent (2kg),
> groundsheet, sleeping mat, sleeping bag and silk liner, stove, fuel,
> food (with a prudent amount extra), poncho, one cooking pot, eating
> utensils, headtorch, camp shoes, fleece jacket and thermals etc. Not
> even any spare clothes, except one pair of socks.
>
> Do you find it easy to get down to about 15kg or less? I realise that
> replacing the MacPac Cascade with a much lighter pack will help, but
> what weights do you actually get to carry?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tony
>
>
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Greetings,
Interested in comments on pack weights we actually carry (or at least
aim to carry) on walks involving a night or two in the bush (including a
tent).
This follows my experience at the weekend of having to drop out on day
one of a planned two-day walk on the Murray Valley Circuit [legs just
gave out at the bottom of a very long, steep descent. There was an
opportunity to cadge a lift back to Dwellingup with some motorised
campers, rather than struggle on and hold back the rest of the group, so
I took it. The other walkers were extremely kind about it all].
In retrospect, it was the right decision. Going on would have been
silly, and no fun at all. I grossly underestimated my fitness level, but
the pack weight was a significant factor.
After returning home, my pack weighed in at about 20kg. Add water and
some food already eaten, and it was nudging probably 23kg, which I know
is far too much. But it really contained just the basics: tent (2kg),
groundsheet, sleeping mat, sleeping bag and silk liner, stove, fuel,
food (with a prudent amount extra), poncho, one cooking pot, eating
utensils, headtorch, camp shoes, fleece jacket and thermals etc. Not
even any spare clothes, except one pair of socks.
Do you find it easy to get down to about 15kg or less? I realise that
replacing the MacPac Cascade with a much lighter pack will help, but
what weights do you actually get to carry?
Cheers,
Tony
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Andrew.
Thanks for that very helpful information I appreciate it.
After reading the reports I have decided to buy one I will let the group
know what I think of it.
Regards Harry.
> Hi Harry
>
> I suggest you take a look at the test reports at
>
<http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/Sleep%20Gear/Pads%20and%20Air%20Mat
tresses/EXPED%20Down%20Air%20Mattress/>.
> You might want to email Jim for his personal comments (you can mention my
> name).
>
> I think you will find his feedback of value.
>
> Regards
> Andrew
> Members.
> Talking about equipment.....
> Has anyone ever bought or used an EXPED down filled mattress for sleeping
> on
> out in the bush.
> I am thinking of getting one as my back is not the best, I rang the
> distributor in Sydney and he said they are not available in Perth. Would
> like to know if anyone has tried one before I spend the money.
> Thanks Harry R.
Hi Harry
I suggest you take a look at the test reports at
<http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/Sleep%20Gear/Pads%20and%20Air%20Mattres\
ses/EXPED%20Down%20Air%20Mattress/>.
You might want to email Jim for his personal comments (you can mention my
name).
I think you will find his feedback of value.
Regards
Andrew
Members.
Talking about equipment.....
Has anyone ever bought or used an EXPED down filled mattress for sleeping on
out in the bush.
I am thinking of getting one as my back is not the best, I rang the
distributor in Sydney and he said they are not available in Perth. Would
like to know if anyone has tried one before I spend the money.
Thanks Harry R.
On 11/07/2005, at 6:36 PM, Gyro wrote:
> Hi All,
> Any info I can give re Albany & surrounds feel free to contact. I
> can recommend the peak above William Bay Hut (above the dune
> field). There's a few excellent caves/overhangs at the peak that
> you may enjoy - just don't step on the spells in the main chasm
> (candles & talismen, etc). Hey, this is near Denmark after all!
> Cheers all,
> Gyro
Just finished Walpole to Denmark today.
Some of those hills are a bugger to climb.
But the views are magnificent .
Just need to upload the 220 shots from the digital camera.
Note: Must get a a decent wide angle lens for the Pentax *ist.
A normal 50 mm lens does not do justice.
Steve
Steve Davies
West Perth
Western Australia 6005
steve@...
Hi All,
Any info I can give re Albany & surrounds feel free to contact. I can recommend
the peak above William Bay Hut (above the dune field). There's a few excellent
caves/overhangs at the peak that you may enjoy - just don't step on the spells
in the main chasm (candles & talismen, etc). Hey, this is near Denmark after
all!
Cheers all,
Gyro
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Hi All,
I now have a name of the product and only one company makes it, SC Johnson
who brought it from Beyer some years ago.
They put it out in four forms, Roll-on, pump spray, aerosol, and lotion.
The trade name is AUTAN Repel and it comes in a yellow container with a red
cap.
So far I have found the aerosol at SuperValue Como and the pump spray at
Dewsons Canning Bridge. What I am really after is the Roll-on and lotion
versions as these are supposedly stronger versions, up to 19.3%, whereas the
other two are around 10.7%.
When you are out shopping could you kindly have a look in the fly spray
section and let me know the details if you come across the Roll-on and/or
lotion.
For your information, you can view what the containers look like at
<http://scjohnson.com.au/prd_02_Autan.html>
I would be very grateful.
Thank you all.
Ralph
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Hello Group,
I am trying to track down where I can purchase a tube of a Picardin based
insect repellent in lieu of the usual DEET based products.
What I am after is a high dosage (19%) one that is available as a gel.
I have not been to a camping shop yet, just tried out the local supermarkets
so far.
Perhaps Mr.Wood from Mountain Designs might sell the repellent?
The problem with DEET based repellents is that you can develop rashes and
irritations with it; not good when out in the bush.
Cheers
Ralph
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Steve.
I'm envious, wish I could come to, its a great walk.
Have fun.
Harry R.
>
> On 13/07/2005, at 7:40 PM, Rossiter wrote:
>
> > Thanks Paul, I bought a pair today.
> > Harry R.
> >
>
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> Looks like you have have started a new thread.
> Could these sandals be the next Dunlop Volley.
>
> I will pick up mine afterwork tomorrow.
>
>
> And Harry, Paul and I are walking Walpole to Albany starting this
> Saturday.
>
> Cheers to all
>
> Steve
On 13/07/2005, at 7:40 PM, Rossiter wrote:
> Thanks Paul, I bought a pair today.
> Harry R.
>
Hi Paul,
Looks like you have have started a new thread.
Could these sandals be the next Dunlop Volley.
I will pick up mine afterwork tomorrow.
And Harry, Paul and I are walking Walpole to Albany starting this
Saturday.
Cheers to all
Steve
Steve Davies
West Perth
Western Australia 6005
steve@...
Thanks Paul, I bought a pair today.
Harry R.
> Dear Bushwalkers,
>
> I'd really like a pair of lightweight sandals for hut shoes but get
> spooked at the price of the "good gear". Today I found some
> lightweight sandals at K-Mart Garden City. The pair weighs only 320g
> and were only $9.99.
>
> The K-Mart code for the item is 26771984 for anybody interested in
> having a look at these.
>
> Paul
Just to let you know that I have had some success in contacting the
appropriate person who has some authority re the above Trail.
The lady is Kim Cream A/Visitor Services Manager at CALM Yanchep National
Park.
They were not aware of the burnt out track and missing markers, so in the
interim they have now closed the section from Neaves Rd to Moitch campsite
and will get the staff onto fixing the trail markers.
Apparently this financial year they say that they will be devoting more
resources to the trail and have a more user friendly web site so that
walkers can get track updates.
Kim is going to check with a person who she knows of who was going to walk
from the Yanchep end recently and find out if they had any difficulty and
post the appropriate notice if they had trouble.
At present CALM is in the process of revamping the Yanchep National Park web
information page.
Kim will email me to let me know when the trail has been assessed and new
markers are in place.
I will keep the group up to date when the information is to hand.
Ralph Ditton
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On 11/07/2005, at 5:17 PM, Paul Homes wrote:
> Dear Bushwalkers,
>
> I'd really like a pair of lightweight sandals for hut shoes but get
> spooked at the price of the "good gear". Today I found some
> lightweight sandals at K-Mart Garden City. The pair weighs only 320g
> and were only $9.99.
>
> The K-Mart code for the item is 26771984 for anybody interested in
> having a look at these.
>
> Paul
Cool,
Heading there after work and will pick some up
Steve
Steve Davies
West Perth
Western Australia 6005
steve@...
Dear Bushwalkers,
I'd really like a pair of lightweight sandals for hut shoes but get
spooked at the price of the "good gear". Today I found some
lightweight sandals at K-Mart Garden City. The pair weighs only 320g
and were only $9.99.
The K-Mart code for the item is 26771984 for anybody interested in
having a look at these.
Paul
Hi Eddy,
No I did not ring CALM, but I did ring Yanchep National Park and the lady
said the track was open!!! Well, I suppose if you had a topographical map
and a compass you could walk the track, but there was no mention of burnt
out areas at all, or missing markers. I had a map provided by CALM showing
the walk trail. It was helpful to a small degree up to Neaves Rd.
I have put an email into CALM tonight enquiring where on their web site
track updates can be found like they put out for the Bib. I did do a search
before I left and could not find any, so it will be interesting to see what
they come back with.
Did you start off from the Southern Terminus as that is the only rail line I
can see on my map?
Despite my aborted walk , my mate and I did enjoy Prickly Bark Campsite and
we just vegged out yesterday, getting over chaffed legs and very sore feet.
Cheers
Ralph
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From: aushiker@... [mailto:aushiker@...] On
Behalf Of Eddy Schmid
Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2005 9:56 PM
To: aushiker@...
Subject: Re: [Aushiker] Coastal Plain Walk Trail
Ah Ralph, sorry to hear of your disaster.
However, I suspect a simple phone call to the CALM would have advised you of
the circumstances there.
Suffice to say, IMHO you could not have picked a WORSE walking trail then
that.
As a matter of fact, I wouldn't even call it a walking trail.
The first and LAST time I walked this trail, we did it as an evening walk IN
THE DARK, sure it had'nt been burnt out then, but that did not make it any
easier.
We started on the Western side of the railway line, approx 3/4 Kilometre in
and it was hard going thru the sand right from the beginning, worse it was
in November which ensured nice hot weather as well, needless to say, we
didn't reach the hut until after midnight and we were well and truely
buggered, and the ticks were having a party.
Were woken up at the crack of dawn, and advised we going to take an early
start due to the hot weather, then also advised seeings as there's only 40
litres of water available,(two 20 litres plastic containers left by the
Rangers) we were not allowed to partake of coffee or tea heart starters, and
only allowed to replenish ONE litre of water for the day.
Considering there were 18 in the party, beginners math tells me we required
36 litres for us all for the day.
There were many grumbles ect, ect, mine included, and off we went, then a
lady walker sprained her ankle and had difficulty walking, it was decided to
call for assistance to take her out, and I was suffering from an almighty
headache,(later found out it was caused by dehydration) which I couldn't get
rid of, as I was the only one in the party familiar with the area I arranged
transport for the injured lady and when it turned up, decided to call it a
day myself.
The remainder of the party continued on to Yanchep where it was anticipated
to spend the evening.
Was luxuriating in the bath when I received a phone call from the walk
leader advising me that the remaining group had rebeled and called the walk
off half an hour after I had left.
There was a get together that evening in lue of the camp at Yanchep, and a
good old bitch session was conducted of the events, turned out I was not the
only participant that was very displeased with this walk.
Too bad you didn't advise of your intentions, much frustration could've been
avoided.
Regards,
Eddy.
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Ah Ralph, sorry to hear of your disaster.
However, I suspect a simple phone call to the CALM would have advised you of
the circumstances there.
Suffice to say, IMHO you could not have picked a WORSE walking trail then
that.
As a matter of fact, I wouldn't even call it a walking trail.
The first and LAST time I walked this trail, we did it as an evening walk IN
THE DARK, sure it had'nt been burnt out then, but that did not make it any
easier.
We started on the Western side of the railway line, approx 3/4 Kilometre in
and it was hard going thru the sand right from the beginning, worse it was
in November which ensured nice hot weather as well, needless to say, we
didn't reach the hut until after midnight and we were well and truely
buggered, and the ticks were having a party.
Were woken up at the crack of dawn, and advised we going to take an early
start due to the hot weather, then also advised seeings as there's only 40
litres of water available,(two 20 litres plastic containers left by the
Rangers) we were not allowed to partake of coffee or tea heart starters, and
only allowed to replenish ONE litre of water for the day.
Considering there were 18 in the party, beginners math tells me we required
36 litres for us all for the day.
There were many grumbles ect, ect, mine included, and off we went, then a
lady walker sprained her ankle and had difficulty walking, it was decided to
call for assistance to take her out, and I was suffering from an almighty
headache,(later found out it was caused by dehydration) which I couldn't get
rid of, as I was the only one in the party familiar with the area I arranged
transport for the injured lady and when it turned up, decided to call it a
day myself.
The remainder of the party continued on to Yanchep where it was anticipated
to spend the evening.
Was luxuriating in the bath when I received a phone call from the walk
leader advising me that the remaining group had rebeled and called the walk
off half an hour after I had left.
There was a get together that evening in lue of the camp at Yanchep, and a
good old bitch session was conducted of the events, turned out I was not the
only participant that was very displeased with this walk.
Too bad you didn't advise of your intentions, much frustration could've been
avoided.
Regards,
Eddy.
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