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hi guys

I'm doing this trip this Aug through Tarkine Trails, however they don't
normally run winter expeditions and I'm really keen to undertake this trek
in winter as it would be something different to the normal summer season
trekking.

Tarkine Trails have advised that to do this as a private itinerary, they
need 5 trekkers to get the show up and running. My partner and I make two,
so we would be looking at getting min. of 3 more ppl.

I'm not doing this commercially so there is no financial interest in this
for me. As I said, it is being organized by Tarkine Trails and the cost is
the same as their summer tours (around $1600 per person ex Tassie), however
id like to send an email through the Yahoo system if anyone's interested in
doing this over winter.
if anyone here is interested - can you pls email
info@... ATTN the email to Simon. Altneratively,
you can email me for
questions/queries at jeelanATsixcontinentsgroup.com.au

The dates for this trip are currently set at 16th Aug departure (from
LAunceston) and completion on 23rdAug but i am flexible with dates from 15ht
Aug to 30th Sep so if we need to fix another date, that is fine.
thanks again, and Andrew for letting me post this

cheers
Jeelan

--
"*We shall not cease from exploration and the end of all our exploring will
be to arrive where we started... and know the place for the first time."*


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G'day

For those chasing walking shorts - size XXL - see
<http://www.torpedo7.com.au/products/MPSHSNNWC>
http://www.torpedo7.com.au/products/MPSHSNNWC. Only $19.95.

Andrew


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Hi Alex,

I ran your query past a friend of mine who lives in Tassie.

Here is his response:

<snip>

Tasman Track, yep, know it well. Fortescue to Waterfall is about 6 hours,
but there is a bit of a climb as you have to go over Mt Fortescue then down
the other side. Can't remember the name of the camp sites off the top of my
head so I'll double check my maps at home and let you know....

Either that or get Alex to ping me an email directly....not fussed.



If you want to email him direct contact me off line and I will give it to
you.



Cheers

Ralph





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From: aushiker@... [mailto:aushiker@...] On
Behalf Of alexoakover
Sent: Friday, 21 March 2008 4:53 PM
To: aushiker@...
Subject: [Aushiker] Tasman Coastal Track



Anyone done the Tasman Coastal track?
I am going in early May, but have found the different track notes and times
for sections very
confusing.
eg Fortescue bay - Waterfall Bay 8 hrs by official times, in 'Wild' Spring
07 it suggests maybe
6 hours.
Also the named campsites seem to differ ? Retakunna Ck or Wughalee Falls?
I would be grateful for any advice/enlightenment.

Alex





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Mark.
If you wanted to you can walk from Hepburn Ave Greenwood, right through to
Yanchep then onto the coastal Plains walk across to Bullsbrook.
Yanchep National Park kiosk have the maps or booklet I picked them up last
year when I was up there.
They are sitting here at home in a large box marked maps along with 100
other maps.
I'm off in two weeks, Walpole to Perth, allowing 6 weeks no hurry, just
spent a casual week snooping around the coast near Moores Hut, plenty of
water on the coast very sweet fresh water running in creeks. I'm still
alive, must have been OK, maybe the alcohol in my blood kills everything!
Take care. Neville.


Hi All,

Anyone have any info on the below track, the numbers listed on the
bottom dont seem to be able to help out.

Cheers

Hi Mark

Try <http://aushiker.com/cpwt.htm>. Amazing how much time I must have once
had! :)

Andrew

On 25/03/2008, Mark McLauchlin <mark@...> wrote:
>
> Ah ok,
>
> So any ideas as to where i can get some more info on that one then?
> the description below makes it look very appealing, but if it was
> never completed....where did they get to?
>
>


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Ah ok,

So any ideas as to where i can get some more info on that one then?
the description below makes it look very appealing, but if it was
never completed....where did they get to?

Cheers

--- In aushiker@..., "Andrew Priest" <andrew@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> Yep. Coastal Plains Walk Trail is it. It was never fully completed.
>
> Andrew
>
> On 25/03/2008, Mark McLauchlin <mark@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Anyone have any info on the below track, the numbers listed on the
> > bottom dont seem to be able to help out.
> >
> > Cheers
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi Mark

Yep. Coastal Plains Walk Trail is it. It was never fully completed.

Andrew

On 25/03/2008, Mark McLauchlin <mark@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Anyone have any info on the below track, the numbers listed on the
> bottom dont seem to be able to help out.
>
> Cheers


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi All,

Anyone have any info on the below track, the numbers listed on the
bottom dont seem to be able to help out.

Cheers


100-km trail set up from Yanchep National Park to Walyunga National
Park
Saturday, 08 February 1997


Environment Minister Cheryl Edwardes today announced the
establishment of what will be one of the State's greatest walk
trails - a 100-km trail from Yanchep National Park to Walyunga
National Park.
Environment Minister Cheryl Edwardes today announced the
establishment of what will be one of the State's greatest walk
trails - a 100-km trail from Yanchep National Park to Walyunga
National Park.

Mrs Edwardes said walkers in the Perth metropolitan area and beyond
would soon be able to experience the magic, colour and tranquillity
of the Swan Coastal Plains by foot.

"The trail will be another welcome boost to the nature-based tourism
and recreational facilities in the North Metropolitan region of
Perth," she said.

"Its close proximity to the city of Perth and public transport will
give people the opportunity to experience nature without having to
travel long distances, especially for weekend hikes and day outings."

The Minister said the trail, to be constructed and managed by the
Department of Conservation and Land Management, would showcase the
unique flora and fauna of this part of WA's coast.

"Walkers will experience and see the Swan Coastal Plain's peaceful
wetlands, tuart and banksia woodlands, spectacular sprays of
wildflowers, forest fauna and glimpses of the Darling escarpment,"
she said.

Mrs Edwardes said construction of the Coastal Plains Walk Trail would
take place in four different stages over the next five months with
the opening expected in early June.

"Stage One is now under construction with the development of the
first 45km from Yanchep National Park, passing through some of our
picturesque State Forest to Melaleuca Conservation Park in the
south," she said.

"Three camp shelters, modelled on those designed for the Bibbulmun
Track, have been included along the walk trail to enhance walkers'
experiences and make the journey more comfortable.

"The trail has been designed to cater for all members of the
community, whether they are beginners undertaking one-day treks or
more experienced bush walkers on three-day treks."

The Minister said the development of the trail was a joint initiative
between the North West Metro Tourism Association and the Department
of Conservation and Land Management.

Stage one of the development was primarily funded by an Eco-Tourism
grant from the Commonwealth Department of Industry, Science and
Tourism under a Backpackers' grants program.

Mrs Edwardes said the enthusiasm and support of community groups,
such as the Wanneroo Wanderers 4WD Club, and the City of Wanneroo had
been great.

"The support and input from the community has been invaluable,
particularly concerning shelter construction and commitment to
monitoring the campsites after they open," she said.

"The City of Wanneroo's contribution has been invaluable in linking
the Coastal Plains Walk Trail to Yellagonga Conservation Park.

"All involved are to be congratulated and encouraged for
participating in this worthwhile project."

Media contacts: Diana Russell Coote (09) 421 7777

Therese Jones, CALM Trail Coordinator on (09) 405 1222.

Hi Tony
I have not been able to find any pre-prepared (is that right :) ) chiken here at
all. I have looked for chiken in a pack simular to the tuna in a pack you can
get but no luck.
Yes dehydrated chicken just does not rehydrate well at all, I have even tried
chicken mince too and only had a ho hum meal out of it.

As for advice on dehydrating, if useing any cut of meat or mice, look for lean
cut or make sure you pat down the meat with an absorbant towel before drying.
I have very good sucsess with drying left over meals that we have at home, or
allow an extra serving for your camping.

Where have you looked for recipies? as I may be able to point you in the right
direction with a great place to look.







On 11/03/2008 7:55:28 PM, Anthony Dyson (anthony.dyson@...) wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I suspect this may have been discussed previously, but here goes:
>
> I'm about to venture into the brave new world of food dehydrating (thank
> you, eBay). Has anyone ever seen tinned chicken in Australia? It seems
> to be easily available in the US, but I have never seen it here. Web
> sites say that cooking fresh chicken and dehydrating it leaves you with
> chicken jerky, which I don't
> want.
>
> Any other tips, advice etc about dehydrating gratefully received.
>
> Cheers, Tony
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Anyone done the Tasman Coastal track?
I am going in early May, but have found the different track notes and times for
sections very
confusing.
eg Fortescue bay - Waterfall Bay 8 hrs by official times, in 'Wild' Spring 07 it
suggests maybe
6 hours.
Also the named campsites seem to differ ? Retakunna Ck or Wughalee Falls?
I would be grateful for any advice/enlightenment.

Alex

Your going to get me in trouble......again!

-----Original Message-----
From: aushiker@... [mailto:aushiker@...] On
Behalf Of Andrew Priest
Sent: Monday, 17 March 2008 8:07 AM
To: aushiker@...
Subject: [Aushiker] Macpac Sundowner Jacket

G'day

Just a heads up but if you are looking for a down jacket, this is a good
price ... $99.95. Details at http://www.torpedo7.com.au/products/MPJKJN7MD

Regards
Andrew


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Yahoo!7 Groups Links

Hi T.

I would suggest trying on as many brands as possible as different shapes of
boots, which vary between the brands, tend to fit different shaped feet.
Just because one brand fits one person doesn't mean it'll fit you. You'll
know when you slide your foot in and it fits perfectly. Don't scrimp on
boots, or you'll pay the real price later on! Mountain Designs Fremantle is
close to Mandurah.

Good luck on Kokoda, what an adventure! A lot of people use Jacobs Ladder in
Kings Park to get some stair work, hard to replicate lots of up and down in
mud though.

Cheers,
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "t.dangerfield" <t.dangerfield@...>
To: <aushiker@...>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 3:00 PM
Subject: [Aushiker] Just Starting


>
> Hi all,
>
> Im just getting into the bushwalking/hiking thing because Im trekkiing
> Kokoda In September and I need a bit of info. I am looking for boots at
> the moment and would love some info on the best places to go and what
> brands/features to look for. I would prefer to try boots on as I have
> long skinny feet, price isnt to important as I plan on continuing to use
> them.
>
>  Also I live in Mandurah and want to know of some good training places I
> dont mind travelling and would prefer to start with day trips. The lady
> Im going to Kokoda with is partially blind (but is basicly an Amazon and
> would run rings around me fitness and experience wise).Any tips on
> building endurance or the best ways to train would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo!7 Groups Links
>
>
>

G'day

Just a heads up but if you are looking for a down jacket, this is a good
price ... $99.95. Details at http://www.torpedo7.com.au/products/MPJKJN7MD

Regards
Andrew


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Hi Nev

I can't comment on this specific pack, however I will say this:

(a) I have a Black Wolf pack which I brought for my son and it has served
him okay, given the light loads he used to carry, however, would I buy
another? No. Would I carry it? No. Why, heavy and  poor harness design,
resulting in poor fit, sore shoulders, sore hips, around uncomfortable
walking experience. With my knowledge now I would never have brought the
pack for him. I wouldn't pinch on gear for me and now I wouldn't do it for
him either. Hard to learn that the hard way.

(b) I lead a lot of walks for the Perth Bushwalkers Club. Every backpack
where inexperienced walkers have come on the walk with a Black Wolf, I have
had to put in time setting it up properly for them to ensure it fits better,
i.e., stops hurting their shoulders and making them uncomfortable;

(c) I have never seen an experienced backpacker walking with a Black Wolf
pack, which in turns makes me question the advice from the camping shop.
Personally I wouldn't accept advice from a seller (Mike Woods excepted :)
but that is me.

(d) I would suggest checking out the lower end Mountain Design packs or
similar and staying away from "cheap" packs such as the Black Wolf.

Hope this helps
Regards
Andrew

On 15/03/2008, nevdrews <nevdrews@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your comments. We have been to the local camping shop. It
> is owned by experienced bush walkers. They have recommended the Black
> Wolf  Bugaloo backpack.


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Nev



I have added some photos to the album if you want to look.



First one is of my boots. Most locals wear nothing on their feet or Dunlop
KT26's. Gators helped in keeping the mud from up the back of the legs etc. I
wear Scarpa leather boots which some consider heavy. However other walkers
who wore the trainer type walking shoes all suffered wet feet on even the
smaller puddles. My boots on this trip are 3 years old. The gators I gave to
my porter at completion of the trek.



The second photo shows the track in its typical state with exposed routes. A
good level of fitness means you can do the track with a little effort. The
uphill sections you normally get into a plod that lifts your heart rate and
breathing rate to al level that enable you to just put on foot in front of
the other and keep going. You will find the down hill sections will take
twice as long as uphills over the same distance as the foot placement
becomes extremely important to save the inevitable falls. My size 10 boots
never seemed to fit between the tree roots so I was always sliding and
suffered 3-4 heavy falls. The knees take a pounding on these downhills.



The third photo is a typical days walk. It would be Day 2 coming from South
to North or Day 6 coming North to South. Depending on your tour group
decides how far you walk each day Some tours race across in 6 days. Others
take longer. We were part of a group of 5. The bigger tour companies go in
groups of up to 60. On this section we passed a group that stretched out
over two hours on the track. By September 1500 -2000 people would have
walked the track. You will notice there are two elevation changes one of 700
and then one of 400. This section which is normally the second day is what
tests most people.



The 4th photo is a small creek crossing. Most creeks large and small are
crossed in this method. Some like this one are simple others are a little
more hair raising. The National in the top left corner is carrying Belindas'
pack. We paid and extra $500AUS which pays for his plane fare back home his
food and a daily wage. It is a coveted position within some villages as it's
the only income producing job they will get. Other companies do not pay as
well and make the porters walk back home.



Photo 5. Is the track up Imita ridge. This was our last day but typically
for most groups going Owers Corner to Kokoda this is their first day. Owers
Corner to the Goldie river is a 400 metre drop over an hour and a half
followed by a 450 metre climb for the next hour and a half then a 500 metre
drop over 2 and half hours. The actual ridge top is about 10 metres wide. It
is spectacular country and typically the hotter part of the track. The first
two days are the hardest you will find and the level of fitness you have can
really define your overall trip.



Ken



   _____

From: aushiker@... [mailto:aushiker@...] On
Behalf Of nevdrews
Sent: Saturday, 15 March 2008 10:20 PM
To: aushiker@...
Subject: [Aushiker] Re: KoKoda



Thanks for your comments. We have been to the local camping shop. It
is owned by experienced bush walkers. They have recommended the Black
Wolf Bugaloo backpack. It looks a good backpack however we are not
experienced trekkers. My son does intend to make good use of the
equipment. You would appreciated we need to buy soon so that he can
wear it in and adjust it correctly.

Can any one advise me on what they think of this particular pack and
on it's suitability for Kokoda?

In regard to the political situation; I have been advised that the
trek is still on. However we will keep an eye on the situation.

Nev

--- In aushiker@yahoogroup <mailto:aushiker%40yahoogroups.com.au> s.com.au,
"Mark McLauchlin - Swan Valley
IT" <mark@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Lots of 'depends' with this question,
>
> If you and your son are intending on taking up hiking as a regular
addiction
> then the old story goes...you get what you pay for...
>
> If this is a one off thing then I would look to see if you can hire
gear,
> either from the kokoda tour company or elsewhere.
>
> Hiking gear, good quality stuff, is quite expensive, although it
doesn't
> have to be either (that last part was because I know there will
lots of
> others to argue that).
>
> What ever you get make sure its comfortable, light and reliable.
>
> Don't take anything new with you, particularly shoes and pack, make
sure
> they are well used before you can see if they will take the
punishment,
> shoes also need wearing in, and your pack depending on brand will
have some
> adjustments to make it fit right.
>
> In terms of brands to use, well I would go to your local
hiking/camping
> store and see what they have there.
>
> I like Osprey for packs, nice and light, very comfortable but also
very
> expensive, (around $500.00)
>
> Shoes there are so many out there you will really need try them on,
however
> for where you are going boots seem to the preference.
>
> Summary: light, comfortable, durable.
>
> If you see something you like check out www.backpackgeartest.org to
see if
> someone has done a review of it,
>
> Lots of websites to check out, if you need some more info just yell
out,
>
> Cheers
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aushiker@yahoogroup <mailto:aushiker%40yahoogroups.com.au> s.com.au
[mailto:aushiker@yahoogroup <mailto:aushiker%40yahoogroups.com.au> s.com.au]
On
> Behalf Of nevdrews
> Sent: Saturday, 15 March 2008 5:49 PM
> To: aushiker@yahoogroup <mailto:aushiker%40yahoogroups.com.au> s.com.au
> Subject: [Aushiker] KoKoda
>
> Hi
> I have just stumbled upon this group while searching for a similar
> group in Queensland. My name is Neville. I'm interested in anyone
who
> can give me advice on the type and brand name of equipment that you
> would recommend for the Kokoda Trail. My son who is 16 years of age
> will be doing the trip in late June.
>
> Any comments would be appreciarted
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo!7 Groups Links
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Neville,



We would be pleased to help with info. We walked the track in Sept/Oct 06.

That time of year he will also need to take a set of thermal underwear as
the area around Myola gets extremely cold.

If you would like to email us at belken1@...  we can also send
you some photos etc on what to expect.

A good quality warm sleeping back is also essential as well as we mentioned
previously - good boots with ankle support.

Plenty of socks in separate sealed bags.  Towards the end of the track
everything might be wet, tired and a little worse for wear - but putting on
a nice fresh pair of dry socks is a good way to start the day.



Regards,

Belinda & Ken



   _____

From: aushiker@... [mailto:aushiker@...] On
Behalf Of Ralph Ditton
Sent: Saturday, 15 March 2008 6:40 PM
To: aushiker@...
Subject: RE: [Aushiker] KoKoda



Welcome.

You son's trip depends on the "diplomatic hoo haa" by our illustrious PM
Kevin from my home state and yours. <g>

BelKen would be the best person to advise and hopefully he sees your post.

If not, write to him direct. His address is in the "From" subject line.

I hope to do it myself in the next few years.

Cheers

Ralph

_____

From: aushiker@yahoogroup <mailto:aushiker%40yahoogroups.com.au> s.com.au
[mailto:aushiker@yahoogroup <mailto:aushiker%40yahoogroups.com.au> s.com.au]
On
Behalf Of nevdrews
Sent: Saturday, 15 March 2008 5:49 PM
To: aushiker@yahoogroup <mailto:aushiker%40yahoogroups.com.au> s.com.au
Subject: [Aushiker] KoKoda

Hi
I have just stumbled upon this group while searching for a similar
group in Queensland. My name is Neville. I'm interested in anyone who
can give me advice on the type and brand name of equipment that you
would recommend for the Kokoda Trail. My son who is 16 years of age
will be doing the trip in late June.

Any comments would be appreciarted

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Quite a heavy pack, that's about all I know

-----Original Message-----
From: aushiker@... [mailto:aushiker@...] On
Behalf Of nevdrews
Sent: Saturday, 15 March 2008 10:20 PM
To: aushiker@...
Subject: [Aushiker] Re: KoKoda

Thanks for your comments. We have been to the local camping shop. It
is owned by experienced bush walkers. They have recommended the Black
Wolf  Bugaloo backpack. It looks a good backpack however we are not
experienced trekkers. My son does intend to make good use of the
equipment. You would appreciated we need to buy soon so that he can
wear it in and adjust it correctly.

Can any one advise me on what they think of this particular pack and
on it's suitability for Kokoda?

In regard to the political situation; I have been advised that the
trek is still on. However we will keep an eye on the situation.

Nev

--- In aushiker@..., "Mark McLauchlin - Swan Valley
IT" <mark@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Lots of 'depends' with this question,
>
> If you and your son are intending on taking up hiking as a regular
addiction
> then the old story goes...you get what you pay for...
>
> If this is a one off thing then I would look to see if you can hire
gear,
> either from the kokoda tour company or elsewhere.
>
> Hiking gear, good quality stuff, is quite expensive, although it
doesn't
> have to be either (that last part was because I know there will
lots of
> others to argue that).
>
> What ever you get make sure its comfortable, light and reliable.
>
> Don't take anything new with you, particularly shoes and pack, make
sure
> they are well used before you can see if they will take the
punishment,
> shoes also need wearing in, and your pack depending on brand will
have some
> adjustments to make it fit right.
>
> In terms of brands to use, well I would go to your local
hiking/camping
> store and see what they have there.
>
> I like Osprey for packs, nice and light, very comfortable but also
very
> expensive, (around $500.00)
>
> Shoes there are so many out there you will really need try them on,
however
> for where you are going boots seem to the preference.
>
> Summary: light, comfortable, durable.
>
> If you see something you like check out www.backpackgeartest.org to
see if
> someone has done a review of it,
>
> Lots of websites to check out, if you need some more info just yell
out,
>
> Cheers
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aushiker@...
[mailto:aushiker@...] On
> Behalf Of nevdrews
> Sent: Saturday, 15 March 2008 5:49 PM
> To: aushiker@...
> Subject: [Aushiker] KoKoda
>
> Hi
> I have just stumbled upon this group while searching for a similar
> group in Queensland. My name is Neville. I'm interested in anyone
who
> can give me advice on the type and brand name of equipment that you
> would recommend for the Kokoda Trail. My son who is 16 years of age
> will be doing the trip in late June.
>
> Any comments would be appreciarted
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo!7 Groups Links
>



------------------------------------

Yahoo!7 Groups Links

Thanks for your comments. We have been to the local camping shop. It
is owned by experienced bush walkers. They have recommended the Black
Wolf  Bugaloo backpack. It looks a good backpack however we are not
experienced trekkers. My son does intend to make good use of the
equipment. You would appreciated we need to buy soon so that he can
wear it in and adjust it correctly.

Can any one advise me on what they think of this particular pack and
on it's suitability for Kokoda?

In regard to the political situation; I have been advised that the
trek is still on. However we will keep an eye on the situation.

Nev

--- In aushiker@..., "Mark McLauchlin - Swan Valley
IT" <mark@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Lots of 'depends' with this question,
>
> If you and your son are intending on taking up hiking as a regular
addiction
> then the old story goes...you get what you pay for...
>
> If this is a one off thing then I would look to see if you can hire
gear,
> either from the kokoda tour company or elsewhere.
>
> Hiking gear, good quality stuff, is quite expensive, although it
doesn't
> have to be either (that last part was because I know there will
lots of
> others to argue that).
>
> What ever you get make sure its comfortable, light and reliable.
>
> Don't take anything new with you, particularly shoes and pack, make
sure
> they are well used before you can see if they will take the
punishment,
> shoes also need wearing in, and your pack depending on brand will
have some
> adjustments to make it fit right.
>
> In terms of brands to use, well I would go to your local
hiking/camping
> store and see what they have there.
>
> I like Osprey for packs, nice and light, very comfortable but also
very
> expensive, (around $500.00)
>
> Shoes there are so many out there you will really need try them on,
however
> for where you are going boots seem to the preference.
>
> Summary: light, comfortable, durable.
>
> If you see something you like check out www.backpackgeartest.org to
see if
> someone has done a review of it,
>
> Lots of websites to check out, if you need some more info just yell
out,
>
> Cheers
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aushiker@...
[mailto:aushiker@...] On
> Behalf Of nevdrews
> Sent: Saturday, 15 March 2008 5:49 PM
> To: aushiker@...
> Subject: [Aushiker] KoKoda
>
> Hi
> I have just stumbled upon this group while searching for a similar
> group in Queensland. My name is Neville. I'm interested in anyone
who
> can give me advice on the type and brand name of equipment that you
> would recommend for the Kokoda Trail. My son who is 16 years of age
> will be doing the trip in late June.
>
> Any comments would be appreciarted
>
>
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Welcome.

You son's trip depends on the "diplomatic hoo haa" by our illustrious PM
Kevin from my home state and yours. <g>

BelKen would be the best person to advise and hopefully he sees your post.

If not, write to him direct. His address is in the "From" subject line.

I hope to do it myself in the next few years.



Cheers

Ralph



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From: aushiker@... [mailto:aushiker@...] On
Behalf Of nevdrews
Sent: Saturday, 15 March 2008 5:49 PM
To: aushiker@...
Subject: [Aushiker] KoKoda



Hi
I have just stumbled upon this group while searching for a similar
group in Queensland. My name is Neville. I'm interested in anyone who
can give me advice on the type and brand name of equipment that you
would recommend for the Kokoda Trail. My son who is 16 years of age
will be doing the trip in late June.

Any comments would be appreciarted





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Hi,

Lots of 'depends' with this question,

If you and your son are intending on taking up hiking as a regular addiction
then the old story goes...you get what you pay for...

If this is a one off thing then I would look to see if you can hire gear,
either from the kokoda tour company or elsewhere.

Hiking gear, good quality stuff, is quite expensive, although it doesn't
have to be either (that last part was because I know there will lots of
others to argue that).

What ever you get make sure its comfortable, light and reliable.

Don't take anything new with you, particularly shoes and pack, make sure
they are well used before you can see if they will take the punishment,
shoes also need wearing in, and your pack depending on brand will have some
adjustments to make it fit right.

In terms of brands to use, well I would go to your local hiking/camping
store and see what they have there.

I like Osprey for packs, nice and light, very comfortable but also very
expensive, (around $500.00)

Shoes there are so many out there you will really need try them on, however
for where you are going boots seem to the preference.

Summary: light, comfortable, durable.

If you see something you like check out www.backpackgeartest.org to see if
someone has done a review of it,

Lots of websites to check out, if you need some more info just yell out,

Cheers

-----Original Message-----
From: aushiker@... [mailto:aushiker@...] On
Behalf Of nevdrews
Sent: Saturday, 15 March 2008 5:49 PM
To: aushiker@...
Subject: [Aushiker] KoKoda

Hi
I have just stumbled upon this group while searching for a similar
group in Queensland. My name is Neville. I'm interested in anyone who
can give me advice on the type and brand name of equipment that you
would recommend for the Kokoda Trail. My son who is 16 years of age
will be doing the trip in late June.

Any comments would be appreciarted


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Yahoo!7 Groups Links

Hi
I have just stumbled upon this group while searching for a similar
group in Queensland. My name is Neville. I'm interested in anyone who
can give me advice on the type and brand name of equipment that you
would recommend for the Kokoda Trail. My son who is 16 years of age
will be doing the trip in late June.

Any comments would be appreciarted

With regards to training all you can do is walk walk and walk.



The first section of the Bibb from Kalamunda through to Brookton highway is
a good heart starter.



If you think you are ready a trip, down to the Stirling ranges is worth it.
You need 3 days. First day you would need to climb the tack to Bluff Knoll
with your pack weighed to what you intend to carry. You would need to do the
return walk twice in one day. The second day a trip up Mt Trio gives you a
better idea of the conditions of the actual Kokoda track with regards to
watching your feet and unformed, uneven stepping. You would need to make the
summit trip twice in the morning and then do a bluff Knoll return in the
afternoon. The third day you can pick any peak down there and do it twice in
the day. If you feel you could go again for a fourth day you are ready for
the Kokoda. Except for a small part of the track you are either walking
steeply uphill or down for 6 -9 days.



If you get your fitness level up to at least that mentioned above you may
actually get to enjoy the scenery instead of being one of those people that
collapses hollow eyed at the end of each day. Whilst that is still and
achievement you need to be able enjoy the place.



Ken



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From: aushiker@... [mailto:aushiker@...] On
Behalf Of t.dangerfield
Sent: Friday, 14 March 2008 4:00 PM
To: aushiker@...
Subject: [Aushiker] Just Starting




Hi all,

Im just getting into the bushwalking/hiking thing because Im trekkiing
Kokoda In September and I need a bit of info. I am looking for boots at
the moment and would love some info on the best places to go and what
brands/features to look for. I would prefer to try boots on as I have
long skinny feet, price isnt to important as I plan on continuing to use
them.

Also I live in Mandurah and want to know of some good training places I
dont mind travelling and would prefer to start with day trips. The lady
Im going to Kokoda with is partially blind (but is basicly an Amazon and
would run rings around me fitness and experience wise).Any tips on
building endurance or the best ways to train would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks





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Hello

We did the Kokoda Track in Sept/Oct 2006.

Definitely go for boots with ankle support and not a runner type shoe - due
to the mud and also it is very slippery in parts and having the ankle
support of a good boot is priceless.   We both have leather scarpa boots
which we are both happy with and handled the track beautifully.

Whatever you decide on get good quality.  We carry a leather needle which
came in handy - to repair other's boots.



If you want any info or anything on the track you can mail us on
belken1@...   and if you don't mind me asking - what company are
you going with?  When we were there there was a bit of friction with some
groups and the KTA.



We thoroughly enjoyed it and would like to return in a couple of years.



Good luck with your training



Regards,

Belinda & Ken



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From: aushiker@... [mailto:aushiker@...] On
Behalf Of t.dangerfield
Sent: Friday, 14 March 2008 4:00 PM
To: aushiker@...
Subject: [Aushiker] Just Starting




Hi all,

Im just getting into the bushwalking/hiking thing because Im trekkiing
Kokoda In September and I need a bit of info. I am looking for boots at
the moment and would love some info on the best places to go and what
brands/features to look for. I would prefer to try boots on as I have
long skinny feet, price isnt to important as I plan on continuing to use
them.

Also I live in Mandurah and want to know of some good training places I
dont mind travelling and would prefer to start with day trips. The lady
Im going to Kokoda with is partially blind (but is basicly an Amazon and
would run rings around me fitness and experience wise).Any tips on
building endurance or the best ways to train would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks





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Hi all,

Im just getting into the bushwalking/hiking thing because Im trekkiing
Kokoda In September and I need a bit of info. I am looking for boots at
the moment and would love some info on the best places to go and what
brands/features to look for. I would prefer to try boots on as I have
long skinny feet, price isnt to important as I plan on continuing to use
them.

   Also I live in Mandurah and want to know of some good training places I
dont mind travelling and would prefer to start with day trips. The lady
Im going to Kokoda with is partially blind (but is basicly an Amazon and
would run rings around me fitness and experience wise).Any tips on
building endurance or the best ways to train would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks

Hi Tony
I have not been able to find any pre-prepared chicken here at all, I have even
looked for chicken in a foil pouch like the tuna you can buy.
I have tried all types of chicken and chicken mince too but with only very
little success.

If drying meat, look for the leanest cut or pat dry with absorbent paper before
drying. Any fat left on the meat before dying will make the drying process much
harder and the results are not as good. Same goes for sausage, it does not dry
well at all.

I will often dry left over stews and so on or allow and extra portion when Wendy
is cooking then dry that and I have had lots of success with that method.

I see Mark has given you a link to one of the best places to get food ideas
from, there is another site based in Canada that also has a lot of ideas but I
do not remember the address.

Good luck
Andrew_P2





   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Anthony Dyson
   To: aushiker@...
   Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:55 PM
   Subject: [Aushiker] Tinned meat


   Greetings,

   I suspect this may have been discussed previously, but here goes:

   I'm about to venture into the brave new world of food dehydrating (thank
   you, eBay). Has anyone ever seen tinned chicken in Australia? It seems
   to be easily available in the US, but I have never seen it here. Web
   sites say that cooking fresh chicken and dehydrating it leaves you with
   chicken jerky, which I don't want.

   Any other tips, advice etc about dehydrating gratefully received.

   Cheers, Tony

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Hi Anthony,

Don't know about the chicken, however one of the best resources for trail
cooking...

http://www.freezerbagcooking.com/index.htm

let us know how you go and what you have success with, few of us here
dehydrate.

Cheers

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From: aushiker@... [mailto:aushiker@...] On
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Sent: Tuesday, 11 March 2008 7:55 PM
To: aushiker@...
Subject: [Aushiker] Tinned meat

Greetings,

I suspect this may have been discussed previously, but here goes:

I'm about to venture into the brave new world of food dehydrating (thank
you, eBay).  Has anyone ever seen tinned chicken in Australia? It seems
to be easily available in the US, but I have never seen it here. Web
sites say that cooking fresh chicken and dehydrating it leaves you with
chicken jerky, which I don't want.

Any other tips, advice etc about dehydrating gratefully received.

Cheers,  Tony



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Yahoo!7 Groups Links

Greetings,

I suspect this may have been discussed previously, but here goes:

I'm about to venture into the brave new world of food dehydrating (thank
you, eBay).  Has anyone ever seen tinned chicken in Australia? It seems
to be easily available in the US, but I have never seen it here. Web
sites say that cooking fresh chicken and dehydrating it leaves you with
chicken jerky, which I don't want.

Any other tips, advice etc about dehydrating gratefully received.

Cheers,  Tony



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G'day

IIRC, someone was asking about boots and/or shoes for wider feet. Well
BackpackGearTest.org is about to test these shoes from New Balance ...
<http://www.newbalance.com/running/trail/MT1110/>
http://www.newbalance.com/running/trail/MT1110/.  Now if you where a tester
.... you could have been in the running for a new set of shoes.  These come
in wide sizes.

Regards
Andrew


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Good on you Neville.
If it's not too late, where are you going?
Andrew_P2



   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Neville
   To: aushiker@...
   Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 4:04 PM
   Subject: [Aushiker] Going South


   Friends.
   Going down south for a few days walk taking camera see if I can get
   some "different" photos not on the Bib track but near it.
   Get away from all these sales how much do you need!
   Take care.
   Neville, AKA Harry R.





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