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RE: [bikers_anon] P's to an R1

Hi Steven,



I think the consensus is going to be the same from any knowledgeable rider
out there. Due to technological advancements, these days there is so much
more choice in the market place amongst the sports bike class. I have
therefore found that this has provided the buyer with the ability to be able
to get a bike that suits all their needs without having the 'cc' component
as a major consideration in purchasing a new motorcycle. When I was younger
and less knowledgeable, I use to believe if I wanted a better motorcycle
with more response, power, performance etc etc. then the formula consisted
of adding more 'cc's' to the equation. To put simply, most 600's I have
ridden will exceed the national speed limit in first gear.



####A short life story in the hope that it may shed some light on your
dilemma and allow me to revisit my youth###



Even in my earlier riding (starting in 1991), I still believed in taming the
beast one level at a time and always gained experience in stages, buying
bikes with small 'cc' increments. I had the 250cc 1989 Honda Superhawk, then
the Honda CX500 Custom, then a new 1994 Yamaha YZF 600. At this stage I
completed three levels of Stay Upright instruction to improve my riding and
to develop my riding skills. These courses included; Cornering and Braking
School, Intermediate and then Advanced rider training. I seriously thought I
knew how to brake and corner before this course, I was very mistaken, I knew
nothing. My advice is to firstly develop your skills and riding ability to
get the most out of the bike you have before moving to the next level.



As my skill increased I started to go to the race track to develop my riding
and in 2001, I purchased a Ducati 748R and completed training in race school
techniques. So after 10 years of riding I still hadn't ventured into the
thousand territory. Well to cut a story a little short, since then I
purchased a 98 R1 and a 2003 R1 between 2002 and 2007. As recent as two
weeks ago I finally decided to go back to a 750cc motorcycle with the 2007,
GSXR. With today's advancements, this bike is really the same as my 2003 R1
in HP. I was seriously considering a 600, however, even though I don't need
the power and will probably never use its full potential, with approx 16
years riding experience I have the riding behind me and the knowledge to
handle it ( Although we can still come unstuck 'occasionally').



In all these years of riding I have never owned a 4 wheeled vehicle (well
until 2006) and have ridden my motorbike as transport to and from work (or
uni) every day and most weekends for 16 years. My advice would be to gain
the experience and seek some training to really enjoy your riding. There is
noting more satisfying than riding with Control Vs riding with Confidence. I
am still learning and developing my riding to this day and will continue to
do so.



####



As with all things in life, the choice is inevitably yours. Good luck.



Regards

Doug











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From: bikers_anon@... [mailto:bikers_anon@...]
On Behalf Of Steven Shaw
Sent: Monday, 2 April 2007 4:57 PM
To: bikers_anon@...
Subject: [bikers_anon] P's to an R1



Guys I am 26 and been on my P's for 5 months. In November I can
upgrade to anything and I was thinking well I could get a 2007 Yamaha
R1. I like to think I am over the stupid stage of my life but I am
going from a cheap 250cc to a 1000cc anyway plus it is an R1. I mean I
will go dame this is quick first up but that is going to happen anyway
because I am going from a 250. Is this just crazy or is this upgrade
realistic provided I take it easy for a while. Let me know your
thoughts.





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Mon Apr 2, 2007 1:24 pm

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Guys I am 26 and been on my P's for 5 months. In November I can upgrade to anything and I was thinking well I could get a 2007 Yamaha R1. I like to think I am...
Steven Shaw
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Apr 2, 2007
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(get in quick before the avalanche........................................) Hi Steve Generally not a good idea , jumping straight to a new hyper 1000.... Just...
Philip Ogden
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Apr 2, 2007
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Ahh, the age old question. I'll be surprised if anyone tells you that getting an R1 off your P's is a good idea. And I'm not going to tell you that its too...
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Apr 2, 2007
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... [...] ... I'd go so far as to say you're probably better off coming off your P's onto a turbo 'busa than onto an R1. R1's are not only quick, they're ...
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Apr 2, 2007
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And thats from a guy thats at the pointy end of any BA ride he attends! In fact, Sam is just one of a few guys that ride 600's and are at the front of the BA...
Sean Hawley
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Apr 2, 2007
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Steve, I recently stepped down from a 2000 GSXR750 to a 2001 GSXR600 and guess what, I'm quicker on the 600 than I was on the 750 in the tight stuff. That...
Greg D
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Apr 2, 2007
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Steve You asked the question, Yes it is crazy to go from your Ps to an R1. Many have but usually with a better bike than a 250. There are a lot who have that...
mark h
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Apr 2, 2007
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I bought a Ducati Monster 620 after recently coming off my P's. The 620 has less power then other sportier 600's. But in my opinion the Monster has more power...
Rachael Tomlinson
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Apr 2, 2007
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... Yeah but I thought the same thing about the 250 I used to ride. "Gott in Himmel," I thought, "this has enough power to last me about forever" Eventually I...
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Apr 2, 2007
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... Have to agree. After just recently upgrading from a GPX250 to a 2000 model ZX6, even though it is carby and 7 years old, it shits all over the little GPX...
Lindy
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Apr 2, 2007
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Steven, i crashed and wrecked a perfectly good brand new Ducati SS1000 late last year. So i did the rational sensible thing and bought a 2007 R1. erm... like...
Mike Clare
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Apr 2, 2007
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ok,ok dave and i want to put our two cents in..get an R1...! lol.. no, seriously..dave and i have owned 4 r1's in the last year, dave has over 15 yrs riding...
Trudy
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Apr 10, 2007
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Hmmmmm well hard one don't know how you ride but my suggestion would be a 600 or 750 first Birdman I know Violence is not the answer I got it wrong on...
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Hi Steven, I think the consensus is going to be the same from any knowledgeable rider out there. Due to technological advancements, these days there is so much...
Doug Brazil
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Apr 2, 2007
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I applaud everyone for thier feedback, but from the 12 replies so far, only one has glossed over the impact of insurance. If you are borrowing to purchase the...
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Apr 2, 2007
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Yes, all true, My first year with my 2003 R1 cost me $2800 full comprehensive then $2400 full comprehensive...my GXR750 just cost me $1800. Got to love...
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