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Lots of $200 fine may be heading your way!   Message List  
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RE: [bikers_anon] Lots of $200 fine may be heading your way!

Hmmm .. two key points:

"Noise control equipment can be considered defective where it ... has, in
the ***opinion*** of an authorised officer, been modified in any way that
makes it less effective than it would have been if not for the modification".

ie. some (OK, most) aftermarket cans are desired because they make more noise
therefore all aftermarket cans are automatically defective?

"Use of informed subjective assessment to decide a noise offence is central
to NSW noise legislation. <snip> Powers under the POEO Act and existing Noise
Control Regulation enable officers to exercise judgement in deciding whether
noise is an issue."

No problem with this if the assessment truely is informed, subjective,
reasonable
and impartial. The underlying arguement seems to be that this **testing**
is pretty expensive and time consuming so we'll settle for "if it's too noisy
for our officer then it's too noisy for the neighbourhood".

I thought our legal system had some fundamental requirement for substantive
evidence? Imagine "I think you were going too fast because most people who
drive WRXs drive fast so I'm issuing you with a speeding ticket"? :-)

Cheers,

Peter




Tue Jul 3, 2007 10:17 am

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This is a rough cut n paste of the new laws that DECC (was EPA) are wanting... Read on, ChR1sT ~~~ Proposed Protection of the Environment Operations (Noise...
Chris Turner
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Jul 3, 2007
6:40 am

Hmmm .. two key points: "Noise control equipment can be considered defective where it ... has, in the ***opinion*** of an authorised officer, been modified in...
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Jul 3, 2007
10:17 am

... Worse than that. All slip-ons are considered defective, as are any cans with removable baffles even if you leave the baffles in place AND throw in a screw...
PiK
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Jul 3, 2007
4:43 pm

Actually, several points to be made here: ADR specifies 94db and yet many sport bikes arrive on the Australian market at 96-97db or more. Check the ADR sticker...
Sam Haeata
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Jul 4, 2007
12:03 am

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