ok so maybe im just a dumb country bumkin (now a city boy) at heart,
but isnt the whole idea of ppl like MCA & bikers anon not only to org
rides etc, but to stand together as one??...its not illegal to take a
long time to pay a toll (yes a nuisance, but no not illegal is it??),
hell i dont care whether u call it me acting alone or as a member of
BA,KSRC/HRC or the motorcycling community, if we have a gripe we have
to raise our point...u dont get nothing in life by sitting on ur ass
wishing, sometimes u have to make it happen, if that means pissing
sum cage drivers off ( i drive one too) then so be it,i also think if
there were more riders on the road the roads would be in better
condition & need less taxpayer $$$ spent on them...im not saying be a
wanker, but have ur protest, make ur point & maybe someone will listen
neka
(must be the SA air making me sensible?)



--- In bikers_anon@y..., "VikingInOZ" <webviking@h...> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian Ramsay" <yasmarbi@y...>
> To: "bikers anon e group" <bikers_anon@y...>
> Sent: Friday, 28 February 2003 18:14
> Subject: FW: [bikers_anon] Re: Again: Road Tolls....(Flogging a
Dead Horse?)
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sean Hawley [mailto:seanhawley@h...]
> Sent: Friday, 28 February 2003 1:45 PM
> To: bikers_anon@y...
> Subject: [bikers_anon] Re: Again: Road Tolls....(Flogging a Dead
Horse?)
>
>
> Re taking time at toll booths:
> The point is to become such a nuisnace that the toll collectors
> decide its better to give us a MC etag or let us go free - unlikely
i
> know. The only way things will change in the future is if they are
> made aware that we exist. Which was obviously not the case when they
> developed the current Etag system. If nothing else its my own
> personal protest at seing forced to paying at least 4 time the
> appropriate toll.
>
> Sean,
> It sounds to me you are a nuisance at times.
> I question whether Bikers Anon wish to be associated with such
behaviour.
> If you wish to make a personal protest, **** off and do it
personally.
> Do not hide under the umbrella of or suggest it is the wishes of
BIKERS
> ANON.
> To do so I feel would be the polital suicide for Bikers Anon.
> I also question your suitability as a committee member using Bikers
Anon for
> your personal frustration releases.
> This is 5 cents worth, since 2 cents is no longer legal tender.
> And only my opinion.
>
> Respectfully yours
> Ian Ramsay
>
> Ian,
> As I am as much in agreement with Sean as you are obviously opposed
to his
> opinions, I am afraid my comment will be strongly coloured by this
bias. I
> will however attempt to better you on one point and that is to
revert to the
> kind of personal attack that you display.
> Further, as I am sure that Sean is more than capable of defending
his
> opinion as well as his position as an excellent committee member
for Bikers
> Anon, I will not point out how out of line you are in questioning
his status
> on this group.
>
> I do have a couple of questions though, that I would respectfully
ask you to
> answer;
> Would you please explain to me why you feel so strongly against any
attempt
> to gather followers in a campaign against the unfair toll charges
laid on
> motorbikes on the various toll roads in the Sydney area?
> As you express your concern for the future of Bikers Anon should
the group,
> or it's members, find itself affiliated with such a campaign, I
would like
> to know on what information you base your opinion, whether it's
another
> similar situation you have experienced, or if you indeed know of
any laws
> governing groups like Bikers Anon that might be broken should such a
> campaign be found to be connected to, or run by Bikers Anon.
>
> We do after all live in modern, democratic society in which some of
the more
> important traits are the ability to voice our opinion and work to
introduce
> changes where we feel they are appropriate.
>
> V