Go steve!!
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Steve
   To: bikers_anon@...
   Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:44 PM
   Subject: [bikers_anon] Re: Operation Blackbird II


   Sorry, i couldn't hold back any longer, i emailed this to the
   Commissioner's office today, i will post the reply if i get one.

   Cheers Hughsy

   Dear Sir / Madam

   The following article from Police media is a disgrace, you set up a
   specific operation to target motorcyclists and you tell everyone how
   pleased you are about it; have you bothered to look at the results?

   You pull over 139 bikes, 17 riders speeding, (12% of riders speeding)

   You pull over 58 motor vehicles of which 31 are speeding, (53% of
   motor vehicles drivers other than bikes were speeding)

   If you were specifically targeting motorcyclists then I would call
   this operation a complete failure.

   Why aren't you specifically targeting the 53% of all other road
   user's who appear to be considerably more lawless as a group by your
   own statistics?

   Honestly, this is nothing more than a discriminatory demonstration of
   ineptness by the NSW Police.

   Regards
   Steve Hughes

   Motorcyclists targeted during Operation Blackbird II

   31 May 2005

   Highway Patrol officers on the Central Coast and the Roads and
   Traffic Authority (RTA) joined forces over the weekend to target
   motorcycle offences during Operation Blackbird II.

   snipped >

   During the operation the following results were obtained:

   Vehicles stopped 58
   Motorcycles stopped 139

   Number of speeding vehicles 31
   Number of speeding motorcyclists 17

   Number of defects (vehicle) 1
   Number of defects (motorcycle) 28

   Number of infringements issued (vehicle) 16
   Number of infringements issued (motorcycle) 16

   Total charges 1

   Inspector Brian Tracey of Hunter Valley LAC congratulated Highway
   Patrol Officers on the excellent work they did.

   "We are happy with the results of the operation and will continue to
   run such operations. Those that break the law will be caught,"
   Inspector Tracey said.



   --- In bikers_anon@..., "John Greentree"
   <john.greentree@o...> wrote:
   > All
   >
   > I am glad I was not the only one that noticed these 'unusual'
   stats...
   > Seeing as they were targeting motorcycles - they only seem to have
   pissed us off rather then actually achieve their goal! I wonder who
   was charged a motorcyclist or another Vehicle!
   >
   >
   >
   >    Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 10:46:00 +1000
   >    From: "Uidam, T \(Tim\)" <tu-nospam@r...>
   > Subject: RE: Motorcyclists targeted during Operation Blackbird II
   >
   > LOL, Well done Hunter Valley Hair-Dryer Patrol...
   >
   > The Police media wing should have completed basic maths before
   issuing
   > their statement.
   >
   > Look how bad we bikers are. Fantastic statistics.
   >
   >             Stopped      Speeding      %tage Speeding
   > vehicles      58            31            53.4%
   > Bikes            139            17            12.2%
   >
   >
   > Tim.
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: bikers_anon@...
   > [mailto:bikers_anon@...] On Behalf Of aussie_fokkas
   > Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:27
   > To: bikers_anon@...
   > Subject: [bikers_anon] Motorcyclists targeted during Operation
   Blackbird
   > II
   >
   > Motorcyclists targeted during Operation Blackbird II
   >
   >  31 May 2005
   >
   >  Highway Patrol officers on the Central Coast and the Roads and
   Traffic
   > Authority (RTA) joined forces over the weekend to target motorcycle
   > offences during Operation Blackbird II.
   >
   > On Sunday (29 May), Highway Patrol officers from the Hunter Valley,
   > Lower Hunter, Kuring-gai, Brisbane Water and the RTA took part in
   the
   > operation.
   >
   > The operation began on Saturday morning and focused on the following
   > roads: The Old Pacific Highway from Berowra to Brooklyn, Peats Ridge
   > Road, George Towns Drive from Kulnura to Wollombi, Wollombi Road
   from
   > Wollombi to Broke and Putty Road from Bulga to Windsor.
   >
   > During the operation the following results were obtained:
   >
   > Vehicles stopped 58
   > Motorcycles stopped 139
   >
   > Number of speeding vehicles 31
   > Number of speeding motorcyclists 17
   >
   > Number of defects (vehicle) 1
   > Number of defects (motorcycle) 28
   >
   > Number of infringements issued (vehicle) 16
   > Number of infringements issued (motorcycle) 16
   >
   > Total charges 1
   >
   > Inspector Brian Tracey of Hunter Valley LAC congratulated Highway
   Patrol
   > Officers on the excellent work they did.
   >
   > "We are happy with the results of the operation and will continue
   to run
   > such operations. Those that break the law will be caught,"
   > Inspector Tracey said.
   >
   > ............. What a Bunch of S.O.B's  , nothing better to do than
   try &
   > spoil our weekend & take more money from us than they already do.
   >
   > jb
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
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Sorry, i couldn't hold back any longer, i emailed this to the
Commissioner's office today, i will post the reply if i get one.

Cheers Hughsy

Dear Sir / Madam

The following article from Police media is a disgrace, you set up a
specific operation to target motorcyclists and you tell everyone how
pleased you are about it; have you bothered to look at the results?

You pull over 139 bikes, 17 riders speeding, (12% of riders speeding)

You pull over 58 motor vehicles of which 31 are speeding, (53% of
motor vehicles drivers other than bikes were speeding)

If you were specifically targeting motorcyclists then I would call
this operation a complete failure.

Why aren't you specifically targeting the 53% of all other road
user's who appear to be considerably more lawless as a group by your
own statistics?

Honestly, this is nothing more than a discriminatory demonstration of
ineptness by the NSW Police.

Regards
Steve Hughes

Motorcyclists targeted during Operation Blackbird II

  31 May 2005

  Highway Patrol officers on the Central Coast and the Roads and
Traffic Authority (RTA) joined forces over the weekend to target
motorcycle offences during Operation Blackbird II.

snipped >

During the operation the following results were obtained:

Vehicles stopped 58
Motorcycles stopped 139

Number of speeding vehicles 31
Number of speeding motorcyclists 17

Number of defects (vehicle) 1
Number of defects (motorcycle) 28

Number of infringements issued (vehicle) 16
Number of infringements issued (motorcycle) 16

Total charges 1

Inspector Brian Tracey of Hunter Valley LAC congratulated Highway
Patrol Officers on the excellent work they did.

"We are happy with the results of the operation and will continue to
run such operations. Those that break the law will be caught,"
Inspector Tracey said.



--- In bikers_anon@..., "John Greentree"
<john.greentree@o...> wrote:
> All
>
> I am glad I was not the only one that noticed these 'unusual'
stats...
> Seeing as they were targeting motorcycles - they only seem to have
pissed us off rather then actually achieve their goal! I wonder who
was charged a motorcyclist or another Vehicle!
>
>
>
>    Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 10:46:00 +1000
>    From: "Uidam, T \(Tim\)" <tu-nospam@r...>
> Subject: RE: Motorcyclists targeted during Operation Blackbird II
>
> LOL, Well done Hunter Valley Hair-Dryer Patrol...
>
> The Police media wing should have completed basic maths before
issuing
> their statement.
>
> Look how bad we bikers are. Fantastic statistics.
>
> 	 Stopped Speeding %tage Speeding
> vehicles 58  31  53.4%
> Bikes  139  17  12.2%
>
>
> Tim.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bikers_anon@...
> [mailto:bikers_anon@...] On Behalf Of aussie_fokkas
> Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:27
> To: bikers_anon@...
> Subject: [bikers_anon] Motorcyclists targeted during Operation
Blackbird
> II
>
> Motorcyclists targeted during Operation Blackbird II
>
>  31 May 2005
>
>  Highway Patrol officers on the Central Coast and the Roads and
Traffic
> Authority (RTA) joined forces over the weekend to target motorcycle
> offences during Operation Blackbird II.
>
> On Sunday (29 May), Highway Patrol officers from the Hunter Valley,
> Lower Hunter, Kuring-gai, Brisbane Water and the RTA took part in
the
> operation.
>
> The operation began on Saturday morning and focused on the following
> roads: The Old Pacific Highway from Berowra to Brooklyn, Peats Ridge
> Road, George Towns Drive from Kulnura to Wollombi, Wollombi Road
from
> Wollombi to Broke and Putty Road from Bulga to Windsor.
>
> During the operation the following results were obtained:
>
> Vehicles stopped 58
> Motorcycles stopped 139
>
> Number of speeding vehicles 31
> Number of speeding motorcyclists 17
>
> Number of defects (vehicle) 1
> Number of defects (motorcycle) 28
>
> Number of infringements issued (vehicle) 16
> Number of infringements issued (motorcycle) 16
>
> Total charges 1
>
> Inspector Brian Tracey of Hunter Valley LAC congratulated Highway
Patrol
> Officers on the excellent work they did.
>
> "We are happy with the results of the operation and will continue
to run
> such operations. Those that break the law will be caught,"
> Inspector Tracey said.
>
> ............. What a Bunch of S.O.B's  , nothing better to do than
try &
> spoil our weekend & take more money from us than they already do.
>
> jb
>
>
>
>
>
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I was just listening to the radio and heard a name I am sure I have
seen on here... without revelaing anything specific I am just curious
to know if the BA Big Ian Chalmers happens to work for the Macquarie
Bank?

More than $100,000 worth of motorcycles and equipment stolen –
Goulburn
1 June 2005
Goulburn Police are appealing for public assistance following the
theft of more than $100,000 worth of motorcycles and motorcycle
equipment at Goulburn. Between 12.30am on Sunday 29 May and 8am on
Monday 30 May, unknown offenders forced entry into a motorcycle
dealership in Goldsmith Street. It is believed the offenders loaded
a number of Yamaha motorcycles ranging from 50cc to 450cc, and a
large quantity of motorcycle equipment, including helmets, gloves
and jackets into a truck and drove away from the dealership. The
total value of the motorcycles stolen is in excess of $70,000, and
the accessories are valued at approximately $35,000. Anyone who has
information about the robbery is urged to contact Goulburn Police
Station on 4824 0799 or Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000

Harley Davidson shop destroyed in fire – Blacktown
1 June 2005
Police are investigating a fire which has destroyed a Harley
Davidson motorcycle shop in Blacktown this morning. About 3am, a
security guard patrolling Sunnyholt Road noticed the shop was well
alight and contacted emergency services. It took firefighters
approximately an hour to bring the fire under control and extinguish
the flames. Initial inquiries by detectives from Blacktown indicate
a prime mover – stolen from Smithfield on Monday night – was driven
through the front of the shop. The vehicle was then set on fire,
which caused the entire shop to be destroyed by flames. Adjoining
businesses appear to have been unaffected by the fire. It's believed
a number of people fled the scene in a white Commodore sedan, last
seen travelling north along Sunnyholt Road. The shop contained
modern and antique Harley Davidson motorcycles, including bikes
believed to be the only ones of their kind in the world. A search
has been conducted of the building, however it appears the building
and truck were empty at the time of the blaze. Inquiries indicate
nothing was stolen from the shop. A crime scene has now been
established and Forensic Services Group officers are expected to
spend the morning examining the site. Inquiries into the blaze are
also underway by detectives from Blacktown. Anyone who might have
witnessed suspicious activity in the area early this morning to
contact Blacktown Police Station on 9671-9199 or Crime Stoppers on
1800 333 000.

Hans Brabandt/AU/GTS/PwC is out of the office from 01/06/2005 to 01/06/2005
inclusive.

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I suspect the police are achieving exactly what they aimed to do.

I would assume the goal of this operation is to reduce the total
number of single vehicle accidents within their area of command.

OK, so maybe I am a conspiracy theorist from way back, but I see a
few events that point to something fishy.
1) Coppers receive some new toys - presumably big budget expenditure
2) We the target of this operation receive very specific detail about
it weeks beforehand
3) As expected the police are out striclty enforcing the law

So the local area commanders present a report that says "we handed
out 200 fines and their were no single vehicle accidents" which leads
to "expenditure on expensive toys is justified, high police presence
with strict enforcement of traffic law is effective in reducing
SVAs" - or "how good am I".

Why would they care if the result was largely due to bikes moving
rides south and/or those on the Putty riding much slower. I would
presume their report does not survey numbers of riders on the road in
and outside the period of the operation - that would certainly be
counter-productive.

I could be wrong, but it just doesn't make sense that details of any
operation launched to catch "criminals" would be leaked to the
same "criminals" weeks beforehand.

I open this discussion to the floor...




--- In bikers_anon@..., Chris Turner <christ@r...>
wrote:
> Dave, Your missing the point here... The police are out there
trying to help
> you! By riding somewhere else on the weekend how can these hard
working men
> and women in blue get the message to you personally.
>
> And now they have made The Putty Rd. safer, why in God's name are
you not
> riding on the Putty!
>
> Seriously now... When will the police realize that creating a
strong police
> presents in one location only creates a temporary shift of the
target
> population to some other location... net result?
>
> Clearly the top brass coppers aren't burdened with the necessary
intellect
> to understand such operations... Still it must be a hoot legally
racing
> around in state owned vehicles, chasing people...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave ZX9R [mailto:ozzak@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2005 4:41 PM
> To: bikersanon
> Subject: [bikers_anon] sunday's DIY ride
>
>
> suggestions anybody?
>
> if nobody has a clue what to do, lets head south away from all the
hoo haa
> up the putty.
>
> meet at gymea shell 9am for 930, for a run down south to gerroa via
nasho,
> mt keira, mac pass and pie shop for a hot drink and then thru kanga
valley,
> berry and onto gerroa for a quick snack then home via kiama bends
and
> jamberoo.
>
> if its raining, stay in bed.
>
> dave zx9r
>
>
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All

I am glad I was not the only one that noticed these 'unusual' stats...
Seeing as they were targeting motorcycles - they only seem to have pissed us off
rather then actually achieve their goal! I wonder who was charged a motorcyclist
or another Vehicle!



    Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 10:46:00 +1000
    From: "Uidam, T \(Tim\)" <tu-nospam@...>
Subject: RE: Motorcyclists targeted during Operation Blackbird II

LOL, Well done Hunter Valley Hair-Dryer Patrol...

The Police media wing should have completed basic maths before issuing
their statement.

Look how bad we bikers are. Fantastic statistics.

		 Stopped Speeding %tage Speeding
vehicles 58  31  53.4%
Bikes  139  17  12.2%


Tim.

-----Original Message-----
From: bikers_anon@...
[mailto:bikers_anon@...] On Behalf Of aussie_fokkas
Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:27
To: bikers_anon@...
Subject: [bikers_anon] Motorcyclists targeted during Operation Blackbird
II

Motorcyclists targeted during Operation Blackbird II

  31 May 2005

  Highway Patrol officers on the Central Coast and the Roads and Traffic
Authority (RTA) joined forces over the weekend to target motorcycle
offences during Operation Blackbird II.

On Sunday (29 May), Highway Patrol officers from the Hunter Valley,
Lower Hunter, Kuring-gai, Brisbane Water and the RTA took part in the
operation.

The operation began on Saturday morning and focused on the following
roads: The Old Pacific Highway from Berowra to Brooklyn, Peats Ridge
Road, George Towns Drive from Kulnura to Wollombi, Wollombi Road from
Wollombi to Broke and Putty Road from Bulga to Windsor.

During the operation the following results were obtained:

Vehicles stopped 58
Motorcycles stopped 139

Number of speeding vehicles 31
Number of speeding motorcyclists 17

Number of defects (vehicle) 1
Number of defects (motorcycle) 28

Number of infringements issued (vehicle) 16
Number of infringements issued (motorcycle) 16

Total charges 1

Inspector Brian Tracey of Hunter Valley LAC congratulated Highway Patrol
Officers on the excellent work they did.

"We are happy with the results of the operation and will continue to run
such operations. Those that break the law will be caught,"
Inspector Tracey said.

............. What a Bunch of S.O.B's  , nothing better to do than try &
spoil our weekend & take more money from us than they already do.

jb





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I heard on the radio this morning that a prime mover was driven (not
be accident) into a western Sydney Harley shop and caused a fire to
start which destroyed several Harleys including one of a kind models.

See you all tomorrow night
David

Ok, can someone help me understand what this crap actually menas
(other than the operation backfired as it proved on a percentage
basis that more cars were speeding).

What is the difference between a 'vehicle' and a 'motorcycle' (ok,
so I only ask this to express some sarcasm)

Number of defects. What classifies as a defect and what is the
breakdown. If the defect is bald tyres than that is worse than a
torn seat etc.

17 speeding bikes, 28 defective bikes but only 16 infringements
issued. I thought that speeding was an infringements or did they not
book all. (never mind the 'vehicle' figures)

Total charges of 1. Assuming that this refers to a criminal charge
of some nature (ie. DUI) I wonder what the charge was and whether it
was a bike or a 'vehicle'.

All up, this is the very reason why the Highway Patrol have little
respect from motorists. They seem to target minorities (ie. bikes,
young drivers etc) and then use bias reporting to try to illustrate
that they have achieved a goal. Yet, in this case it appears that
the target backfired as the bikes appear to be the better behaved on
the day (using their figures).


Garry



--- In bikers_anon@..., "aussie_fokkas"
<aussie_fokkas@y...> wrote:
> Motorcyclists targeted during Operation Blackbird II
>
>  31 May 2005
>
>  Highway Patrol officers on the Central Coast and the Roads and
> Traffic Authority (RTA) joined forces over the weekend to target
> motorcycle offences during Operation Blackbird II.
>
> On Sunday (29 May), Highway Patrol officers from the Hunter
Valley,
> Lower Hunter, Kuring-gai, Brisbane Water and the RTA took part in
> the operation.
>
> The operation began on Saturday morning and focused on the
following
> roads: The Old Pacific Highway from Berowra to Brooklyn, Peats
Ridge
> Road, George Towns Drive from Kulnura to Wollombi, Wollombi Road
> from Wollombi to Broke and Putty Road from Bulga to Windsor.
>
> During the operation the following results were obtained:
>
> Vehicles stopped 58
> Motorcycles stopped 139
>
> Number of speeding vehicles 31
> Number of speeding motorcyclists 17
>
> Number of defects (vehicle) 1
> Number of defects (motorcycle) 28
>
> Number of infringements issued (vehicle) 16
> Number of infringements issued (motorcycle) 16
>
> Total charges 1
>
> Inspector Brian Tracey of Hunter Valley LAC congratulated Highway
> Patrol Officers on the excellent work they did.
>
> "We are happy with the results of the operation and will continue
to
> run such operations. Those that break the law will be caught,"
> Inspector Tracey said.
>
> ............. What a Bunch of S.O.B's  , nothing better to do than
> try & spoil our weekend & take more money from us than they
already
> do.
>
> jb

Tim

More than twice the number of cars pulled over, and only half the speeding
fines,
And heaps of (petty?) defects.
Seems like a lot of effort for a relatively small result from the "Targeted"
group.
If the stats were done on the same amount of cars to bikes, we would look even
better!

I didnt notice too many defective bikes at Mt White, but rather quite a few
nice, well loved ones.
What was funny was the car going flat out near the 60km zone Brooklyn while I
was stopped, and the Police who pulled out from their stationary position to
follow me when I left the servo.

Congratulations Boys on excellent work, (I didnt get pulled over or booked)
And shame on you Law breakers who were caught.

Maybe next time if they pull more bike people over, they can brag of higher
numbers of blatent threats to society caught.

Bruce





----- Original Message -----
   From: aussie_fokkas
   To: bikers_anon@...
   Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 10:27 AM
   Subject: [bikers_anon] Motorcyclists targeted during Operation Blackbird II


   Motorcyclists targeted during Operation Blackbird II

   31 May 2005

   Highway Patrol officers on the Central Coast and the Roads and
   Traffic Authority (RTA) joined forces over the weekend to target
   motorcycle offences during Operation Blackbird II.

   On Sunday (29 May), Highway Patrol officers from the Hunter Valley,
   Lower Hunter, Kuring-gai, Brisbane Water and the RTA took part in
   the operation.

   The operation began on Saturday morning and focused on the following
   roads: The Old Pacific Highway from Berowra to Brooklyn, Peats Ridge
   Road, George Towns Drive from Kulnura to Wollombi, Wollombi Road
   from Wollombi to Broke and Putty Road from Bulga to Windsor.

   During the operation the following results were obtained:

   Vehicles stopped 58
   Motorcycles stopped 139

   Number of speeding vehicles 31
   Number of speeding motorcyclists 17

   Number of defects (vehicle) 1
   Number of defects (motorcycle) 28

   Number of infringements issued (vehicle) 16
   Number of infringements issued (motorcycle) 16

   Total charges 1

   Inspector Brian Tracey of Hunter Valley LAC congratulated Highway
   Patrol Officers on the excellent work they did.

   "We are happy with the results of the operation and will continue to
   run such operations. Those that break the law will be caught,"
   Inspector Tracey said.

   ............. What a Bunch of S.O.B's  , nothing better to do than
   try & spoil our weekend & take more money from us than they already
   do.

   jb





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Dave, Your missing the point here... The police are out there trying to help
you! By riding somewhere else on the weekend how can these hard working men
and women in blue get the message to you personally.

And now they have made The Putty Rd. safer, why in God's name are you not
riding on the Putty!

Seriously now... When will the police realize that creating a strong police
presents in one location only creates a temporary shift of the target
population to some other location... net result?

Clearly the top brass coppers aren't burdened with the necessary intellect
to understand such operations... Still it must be a hoot legally racing
around in state owned vehicles, chasing people...

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave ZX9R [mailto:ozzak@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2005 4:41 PM
To: bikersanon
Subject: [bikers_anon] sunday's DIY ride


suggestions anybody?

if nobody has a clue what to do, lets head south away from all the hoo haa
up the putty.

meet at gymea shell 9am for 930, for a run down south to gerroa via nasho,
mt keira, mac pass and pie shop for a hot drink and then thru kanga valley,
berry and onto gerroa for a quick snack then home via kiama bends and
jamberoo.

if its raining, stay in bed.

dave zx9r



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suggestions anybody?

if nobody has a clue what to do, lets head south away from all the hoo haa up
the putty.

meet at gymea shell 9am for 930, for a run down south to gerroa via nasho, mt
keira, mac pass and pie shop for a hot drink and then thru kanga valley, berry
and onto gerroa for a quick snack then home via kiama bends and jamberoo.

if its raining, stay in bed.

dave zx9r


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Australian Moto GP moves to beat tobacco ban

'Next year's Australian Motorcycle Grand Prix will be brought forward
so that racing teams can carry cigarette advertising before it is
banned by the Victorian State Government.

There has been an exemption for tobacco sponsorship of grand prix
teams but that exemption ends next October.

The Australian Grand Prix Corporation said the event was likely to be
held in late September rather than October, to beat the ban.

The corporation's Tim Bamford said the move was not surprising.

"We have a contract which we've had for many years which obliges us to
allow the teams to run with tobacco sponsorship," Mr Bamford said.

"The [Victorian] state government and the Federal Government
legislation allowing tobacco sponsorship expires in 2006 on October
first so I'm sure that would've been a factor in their consideration."'

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200505/s1381216.htm

Oh please Laef, clearly our roads and infrastructure were only ever
designed for "vehicles", not "motorcycles". So why would the police
think any differently?




--- In bikers_anon@..., "Laef Hosking"
<dangerlaef@y...> wrote:
>
> > Vehicles stopped 58
> > Motorcycles stopped 139
>
>
> & here's me foolishly thinking my motorcycle WAS a vehicle..

> Vehicles stopped 58
> Motorcycles stopped 139


& here's me foolishly thinking my motorcycle WAS a vehicle..

I forgot to add the most important part ... especially now I've
looked at the photos.

IT FARKEN SUCKS!!!

(and I still don't know what happened to Greggy D's bike, despite
trawling through all the messages these last few days. Yes, I am
supposed to be working ;-P)

LOL, Well done Hunter Valley Hair-Dryer Patrol...

The Police media wing should have completed basic maths before issuing
their statement.

Look how bad we bikers are. Fantastic statistics.

		 Stopped Speeding %tage Speeding
vehicles 58  31  53.4%
Bikes  139  17  12.2%


Tim.

-----Original Message-----
From: bikers_anon@...
[mailto:bikers_anon@...] On Behalf Of aussie_fokkas
Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:27
To: bikers_anon@...
Subject: [bikers_anon] Motorcyclists targeted during Operation Blackbird
II

Motorcyclists targeted during Operation Blackbird II

  31 May 2005

  Highway Patrol officers on the Central Coast and the Roads and Traffic
Authority (RTA) joined forces over the weekend to target motorcycle
offences during Operation Blackbird II.

On Sunday (29 May), Highway Patrol officers from the Hunter Valley,
Lower Hunter, Kuring-gai, Brisbane Water and the RTA took part in the
operation.

The operation began on Saturday morning and focused on the following
roads: The Old Pacific Highway from Berowra to Brooklyn, Peats Ridge
Road, George Towns Drive from Kulnura to Wollombi, Wollombi Road from
Wollombi to Broke and Putty Road from Bulga to Windsor.

During the operation the following results were obtained:

Vehicles stopped 58
Motorcycles stopped 139

Number of speeding vehicles 31
Number of speeding motorcyclists 17

Number of defects (vehicle) 1
Number of defects (motorcycle) 28

Number of infringements issued (vehicle) 16
Number of infringements issued (motorcycle) 16

Total charges 1

Inspector Brian Tracey of Hunter Valley LAC congratulated Highway Patrol
Officers on the excellent work they did.

"We are happy with the results of the operation and will continue to run
such operations. Those that break the law will be caught,"
Inspector Tracey said.

............. What a Bunch of S.O.B's  , nothing better to do than try &
spoil our weekend & take more money from us than they already do.

jb





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True: Yellow bend indicators are advisory speeds only. They can't book
you for exceeding the posted advisory speed. But, they can just as
easily stick-it-to-you for infamous catch-all offences like "drive in a
manner dangerous", "Reckless Driving" or "Negligent Driving" if they
decide that your speed around that corner was excessive for the
conditions... Or they just don't like you.

Remember, a Negligent Driving offence is not just a traffic offence.
It's a criminal conviction.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/rtatma1999412/s42.html

---NSW LAW---
ROAD TRANSPORT (SAFETY AND TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT) ACT 1999 - SECT 42
Negligent, furious or reckless driving
42 Negligent, furious or reckless driving
(cf Traffic Act, s 4)

(1) A person must not drive a motor vehicle negligently on a road or
road related area.
Maximum penalty:
(a) if the driving occasions death-30 penalty units or imprisonment for
18 months or both (in the case of a first offence) or 50 penalty units
or imprisonment for 2 years or both (in the case of a second or
subsequent offence), or
(b) if the driving occasions grievous bodily harm-20 penalty units or
imprisonment for 9 months or both (in the case of a first offence) or 30
penalty units or imprisonment for 12 months or both (in the case of a
second or subsequent offence), or
(c) if the driving does not occasion death or grievous bodily harm-10
penalty units.

(2) A person must not drive a motor vehicle furiously, recklessly or at
a speed or in a manner dangerous to the public, on a road or road
related area.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units or imprisonment for 9 months or both
(in the case of a first offence) or 30 penalty units or imprisonment for
12 months or both (in the case of a second or subsequent offence).
---/NSW LAW---


If you're unlucky enough to get hit with one of these infringements (for
something as silly as going "fast" around a corner), DEFEND THE
CONVICTION!

Section 3 of the same Act grants consideration to the following
circumstances.

---NSW LAW---
ROAD TRANSPORT (SAFETY AND TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT) ACT 1999 - SECT 42
Negligent, furious or reckless driving
42 Negligent, furious or reckless driving
(cf Traffic Act, s 4)

(3) In considering whether an offence has been committed under this
section, the court is to have regard to all the circumstances of the
case, including the following:
(a) the nature, condition and use of the road or road related area on
which the offence is alleged to have been committed,
(b) the amount of traffic that actually is at the time, or which might
reasonably be expected to be, on the road or road related area.
---/NSW LAW---

Anyway, enough doom and gloom.
JRTFBM! :D

Tim.

PS. This correspondence does not constitute professional legal advice.
You are advised to seek your own independent, professional legal advice
before defending any alleged offences.

-----Original Message-----
From: bikers_anon@...
[mailto:bikers_anon@...] On Behalf Of Brad Jayakody
Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2005 10:06
To: bikers_anon@...
Subject: [bikers_anon] Re: [sydney_knights] EPA & Old road

The message he sent out was

"3rd time pulled over for apparent speeding, I was clocked at 70km/h in
a 80km/h zone!!! Got a warning, saying that even the its an 80km/h zone
I was going too fast for the 35km/h posted corner limit!! The police say
that they can hear me a mile away. I was fanging it but never broke the
posted speed limit. "

Cops were probably just trying it on.  Don't know the exact specifics,
but if they felt you were riding recklessly, couldn't they do a fine for
dangerous driving?

--- In bikers_anon@..., "JACKIE PETTIT"
<tigerstripes@f...> wrote:
> They are recommendation ONLY, they can not book you unless you went
above the limit for that road.
>
> Jackie
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Sarah Jo Steinhoff
>   To: bikers_anon@...
>   Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 5:00 PM
>   Subject: RE: [bikers_anon] Re: [sydney_knights] EPA & Old road
>
>
>   I didn't think corner speeds were legal speed limit signs, only
recommendations.  Maybe that's why he got a warning and not a fine?
Some cop trying to throw around his power thinking the rider wouldn't
know the difference knowing he legally couldn't fine him for anything?
>
>   SJ
>
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>   km/h signposted turn too fast for the conditions.  Got off with a
>   warning though.
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Motorcyclists targeted during Operation Blackbird II
31 May 2005




Highway Patrol officers on the Central Coast and the Roads and
Traffic Authority (RTA) joined forces over the weekend to target
motorcycle offences during Operation Blackbird II. On Sunday (29
May), Highway Patrol officers from the Hunter Valley, Lower Hunter,
Kuring-gai, Brisbane Water and the RTA took part in the operation.
The operation began on Saturday morning and focused on the following
roads: The Old Pacific Highway from Berowra to Brooklyn, Peats Ridge
Road, George Towns Drive from Kulnura to Wollombi, Wollombi Road
from Wollombi to Broke and Putty Road from Bulga to Windsor. During
the operation the following results were obtained: Vehicles stopped
58 Motorcycles stopped 139 Number of speeding vehicles 31 Number of
speeding motorcyclists 17 Number of defects (vehicle) 1 Number of
defects (motorcycle) 28 Number of infringements issued (vehicle) 16
Number of infringements issued (motorcycle) 16 Total charges 1
Inspector Brian Tracey of Hunter Valley LAC congratulated Highway
Patrol Officers on the excellent work they did. "We are happy with
the results of the operation and will continue to run such
operations. Those that break the law will be caught," Inspector
Tracey said.
--------

Motorcyclists targeted during Operation Blackbird II

  31 May 2005

  Highway Patrol officers on the Central Coast and the Roads and
Traffic Authority (RTA) joined forces over the weekend to target
motorcycle offences during Operation Blackbird II.

On Sunday (29 May), Highway Patrol officers from the Hunter Valley,
Lower Hunter, Kuring-gai, Brisbane Water and the RTA took part in
the operation.

The operation began on Saturday morning and focused on the following
roads: The Old Pacific Highway from Berowra to Brooklyn, Peats Ridge
Road, George Towns Drive from Kulnura to Wollombi, Wollombi Road
from Wollombi to Broke and Putty Road from Bulga to Windsor.

During the operation the following results were obtained:

Vehicles stopped 58
Motorcycles stopped 139

Number of speeding vehicles 31
Number of speeding motorcyclists 17

Number of defects (vehicle) 1
Number of defects (motorcycle) 28

Number of infringements issued (vehicle) 16
Number of infringements issued (motorcycle) 16

Total charges 1

Inspector Brian Tracey of Hunter Valley LAC congratulated Highway
Patrol Officers on the excellent work they did.

"We are happy with the results of the operation and will continue to
run such operations. Those that break the law will be caught,"
Inspector Tracey said.

............. What a Bunch of S.O.B's  , nothing better to do than
try & spoil our weekend & take more money from us than they already
do.

jb

Hi Kinna and all Yer Happy Putty Punters,

Wow, looks like you picked up some paperwork on your run last W/E! Big
shitty pitty that. Hope you're all safe and sound! ChR1s - interesting
CAR you found!

Happy B'day Scotty & Shannon!

"Bikeless" Phil


--- In bikers_anon@..., Kahrina Chan <kahrinachan@y...>
wrote:
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>
> I've just uploaded some pix from Scotty's Birthday
> Putty Road Ride. It was an eventful day to say the
> least. Anyone wanna do a ride report? I'd better not.
>
> Happy Birthday to Shannon today!!
>
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> Kinna
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The message he sent out was

"3rd time pulled over for apparent speeding, I was clocked at 70km/h
in a 80km/h zone!!! Got a warning, saying that even the its an 80km/h
zone I was going too fast for the 35km/h posted corner limit!! The
police say that they can hear me a mile away. I was fanging it but
never broke the posted speed limit. "

Cops were probably just trying it on.  Don't know the exact specifics,
but if they felt you were riding recklessly, couldn't they do a fine
for dangerous driving?

--- In bikers_anon@..., "JACKIE PETTIT"
<tigerstripes@f...> wrote:
> They are recommendation ONLY, they can not book you unless you went
above the limit for that road.
>
> Jackie
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Sarah Jo Steinhoff
>   To: bikers_anon@...
>   Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 5:00 PM
>   Subject: RE: [bikers_anon] Re: [sydney_knights] EPA & Old road
>
>
>   I didn't think corner speeds were legal speed limit signs, only
recommendations.  Maybe that's why he got a warning and not a fine?
Some cop trying to throw around his power thinking the rider wouldn't
know the difference knowing he legally couldn't fine him for anything?
>
>   SJ
>
>
>   <snip> Going 70km/h in an 80 k zone.  Cop reckoned he took the 35
>   km/h signposted turn too fast for the conditions.  Got off with a
>   warning though.
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They are recommendation ONLY, they can not book you unless you went above the
limit for that road.

Jackie
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Sarah Jo Steinhoff
   To: bikers_anon@...
   Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 5:00 PM
   Subject: RE: [bikers_anon] Re: [sydney_knights] EPA & Old road


   I didn't think corner speeds were legal speed limit signs, only
recommendations.  Maybe that's why he got a warning and not a fine?  Some cop
trying to throw around his power thinking the rider wouldn't know the difference
knowing he legally couldn't fine him for anything?

   SJ


   <snip> Going 70km/h in an 80 k zone.  Cop reckoned he took the 35
   km/h signposted turn too fast for the conditions.  Got off with a
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Bummer Greg.
  Where does your mate live?
  Give Lloyd Penn a call - if he cant help he will be able to recommend
someone.He is good like that.
  Lloyd Penn Motorcycle Mechanic - Artarmon.
0299068488

  On 5/31/05, Greg Douglas <greggyd@...> wrote:
>
> Firstly, my bike is just fine thanks.
>
> However, a mate who just bought a K1 600 GSXR had the misfortune of the
> chain snaping whilst riding the bike home from purchasing it privately.
> Resulting in the chain smashing a hole in the water pump and shearing off
> one of the waterpump mounts & bending the clutch actuator pin. Luckily the
> mount did not break off though the engine casing, but it does need to be
> welded up and machined, drilled tapped etc. As for the pin its a no brainer,
> buy a new one. However can anyone recomend a repairer able to do this type
> of repair for the engine casing/water pump?
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Firstly, my bike is just fine thanks.

However, a mate who just bought a K1 600 GSXR had the misfortune of the chain
snaping whilst riding the bike home from purchasing it privately.  Resulting in
the chain smashing a hole in the water pump and shearing off one of the
waterpump mounts & bending the clutch actuator pin.  Luckily the mount did not
break off though the engine casing, but it does need to be welded up and
machined, drilled tapped etc.  As for the pin its a no brainer, buy a new one. 
However can anyone recomend a repairer able to do this type of repair for the
engine casing/water pump?

Thanks

Greg.

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The 04 model is the latest one out acording to the suzuki
site(www.suzuki.com.au), though their is no mention if it is a K4 or K5, though
it does have the K5 tail but not the K5 exhaust or mirrors.  The 2004 model
though it to the 750 what the K5 is to the 1000.  If  I had the money I'd be on
a 04 750 and not a K1 750(2000).  Test road the 04 bike and whoa, leaves my K1
looking like something from the 80's.  Unfortunately my bank account also looks
like something from the 80's at the moment :-(.  All the info on the link I put
up earlier is as best I can tell the latest bike out.  So you can compare the
previous 750's on the same site.  But basicaly the new 750 is lighter, more
powerfull, slightly lower and in all but a straight line quiker than the K4
1000.

Greg.
GSXR750-K1
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Brodie Betts
   To: bikers_anon@...
   Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 1:10 PM
   Subject: Fw: [bikers_anon] GSXR750 K4 & K5


   Thanks so much for the Suzuki Link, buuuuuuuuut.............hahahaha. I still
cant find what I am looking for!!!!! (i think im going to cry soon..........!!!)

   There link doesnt seem to even indicate that suzuki made a GSXR750k5, even
though they did, So I am not sure how to compare it to the 2004 model, or is
that the point?

   Should I be looking at the 2004 model and just assuming that is exactly the
same specs /looks everything else as the K5, and that is why they havent put in
info for the GSXR750K5?


   Still what I am looking for is something/someone bascially to tell me (because
I am a girl and I dont care about mechanical things and in knowing how things
run........heheheh) What. if anything they have done to the k5 model compared to
the k4 model.

   something like "the K5 model has shinier footpegs, bluer paint and rounder
wheels. compared to the k4 model, which only had plain footpegs, dull paint and
less round wheels"

   is there anything or anybody who can explain to me in laymens terms what the
differences are? ( if there are any)

   I PROMISE I tried to find all this stuff myself before posting
here.............!!!!! But it seems simple people like me shouldnt be using the
internet....................lol

   Thankyou!

   Brodie



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James,

Only saw one (radar) car cruising on the way up.
No EPA and nothing on the way back.

Bruce
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: James Pudney
   To: bikers_anon@... ; sydney_knights@...
   Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 3:52 PM
   Subject: [bikers_anon] EPA & Old road


   Hey all,

   So was the rumour true? Were they up at the Old rd
   this weekend just gone? Did anybody have any hassles?



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wouldnt you like to know?   :)


JACKIE PETTIT <tigerstripes@...> wrote:

not me...Jackie


   ----- Original Message -----
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   Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 4:22 PM
   Subject: [bikers_anon] Re: Kanga Valley Late Pics


   Who owns the butt crack????




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