YOU WATCH TOO MANY MOVIES DOOD!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Davis
To: 'Glenn Heinzel' ; bikers_anon@...
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 2:47 PM
Subject: RE: [bikers_anon] On-board speed monitoring and control
>>As if Bob Carr
is going to implement a technology that will COST $200-$400 per car,
robbing the coffers of millions of dollars in speeding fines!
This technology will not stop fines that is the scary bit. The GPS will
monitor where you are at any one time. It will then feed back your position
and speed to a central database from there it will calculate from your
position what the relevant speed limit is. Then if your reported speed is
greater than the speed limit of the road you are on an offence notice will
be sent.
This will mean no matter where you are whether in the middle of the CBD
surrounded by lots of other vehicles or all by yourself up the old road if
you are speeding they will know. The only place maybe to hide will be in
the tunnels (as the satellites wouldnt be able to "see" you- though there
are ways to cover that as well).
The technology to do this will only get cheaper so the introduction price is
not what will prevent it. There is serious privacy issues here though. But
hey they could just say that it could prevent terrorism by using it if they
spun it just right that will get us giving away our civil rights :)
OK I am probably being alarmist but the technology is there to do this.
Carl
XTZ660
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Heinzel [mailto:glenn.heinzel@...]
Sent: Thursday, 1 July 2004 1:26 PM
To: bikers_anon@...
Subject: [bikers_anon] On-board speed monitoring and control
Re:On-board speed monitoring and control
I don't think we have too much to worry about there. As if Bob Carr
is going to implement a technology that will COST $200-$400 per car,
robbing the coffers of millions of dollars in speeding fines!
Not unless he finds another way to make that kind of money first,
and I doubt that!
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>>As if Bob Carr
is going to implement a technology that will COST $200-$400 per car,
robbing the coffers of millions of dollars in speeding fines!
This technology will not stop fines that is the scary bit. The GPS will
monitor where you are at any one time. It will then feed back your position
and speed to a central database from there it will calculate from your
position what the relevant speed limit is. Then if your reported speed is
greater than the speed limit of the road you are on an offence notice will
be sent.
This will mean no matter where you are whether in the middle of the CBD
surrounded by lots of other vehicles or all by yourself up the old road if
you are speeding they will know. The only place maybe to hide will be in
the tunnels (as the satellites wouldnt be able to "see" you- though there
are ways to cover that as well).
The technology to do this will only get cheaper so the introduction price is
not what will prevent it. There is serious privacy issues here though. But
hey they could just say that it could prevent terrorism by using it if they
spun it just right that will get us giving away our civil rights :)
OK I am probably being alarmist but the technology is there to do this.
Carl
XTZ660
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Heinzel [mailto:glenn.heinzel@...]
Sent: Thursday, 1 July 2004 1:26 PM
To: bikers_anon@...
Subject: [bikers_anon] On-board speed monitoring and control
Re:On-board speed monitoring and control
I don't think we have too much to worry about there. As if Bob Carr
is going to implement a technology that will COST $200-$400 per car,
robbing the coffers of millions of dollars in speeding fines!
Not unless he finds another way to make that kind of money first,
and I doubt that!
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Re:On-board speed monitoring and control
I don't think we have too much to worry about there. As if Bob Carr
is going to implement a technology that will COST $200-$400 per car,
robbing the coffers of millions of dollars in speeding fines!
Not unless he finds another way to make that kind of money first,
and I doubt that!
Insert foul mouthed, opinionated, biased, narrow minded screams of
frustration here.
Jolyon
ZZR600
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:19:41 +1000, Chris Turner <christ@...> wrote:
>
>
> What happened last week in your Parliament..............
>
> Extract from NSW Legislative Assembly Hansard. This record is a proof
> version. See bottom of page for classifications and links relating to this
> extract.
>
> ROAD SAFETY
> Page: 70
>
> Mr PAUL GIBSON (Blacktown) [5.08 p.m.]: In mid-2003 I was elected chairman
> of the Staysafe committee, which is a most privileged position. I proposed
> that it was important to commence an inquiry into speed and motor vehicle
> design. I remind honourable members that almost 600 people die on New South
> Wales roads every year. The inquiry is to examine the potential for motor
> vehicle technologies and to influence and control driving speeds in light
> vehicles, heavy vehicles and motorcycles.
>
> The focus of the inquiry is on currently available motor vehicle-based
> measures that better manage and control speed, that is, on established or
> emerging technologies. The term "established" is usually used to denote
> technologies that are already in general use, if not in New South Wales,
> then in other jurisdictions. The word "emerging" means that the technologies
> are in use but are not widely adopted and includes prototype installations
> and experimental trials. The inquiry is reviewing speed management and
> control systems that relate to vehicle design, including intelligent speed
> adaptation [ISA], cruise control, speed alarms that are set by the driver,
> on-board monitoring of vehicle speeds during journeys, and speedometer
> scales and ergonomics.
>
> Some 10 or 15 years ago New South Wales was the world leader in many areas
> of road safety, but it is now lagging behind. New South Wales was a world
> leader in occupant restraint-particularly when it came to the safety of
> babies and young kiddies in cars-and in areas such as bus safety. We have
> lost a lot of that expertise; we became more reactive, less experimental,
> more into using consumer demand, and less likely to pursue regulations to
> deliver vehicle safety benefits. One of the initiatives of the Staysafe
> Committee is getting out and looking at what other jurisdictions are doing.
> In Australia today the leading focus would be the SafeCar project in
> Victoria-which recently was on show in Orange, in the central west-and the
> Australian New Car Assessment Program. Another initiative is to look at
> overseas development, initiatives, trials and experiments.
>
> The motor vehicle industry is a global industry. We no longer have national
> manufacturers; we have instead regional manufacturers that have gone global,
> including Ford, General Motors, Renault, Toyota, Volkswagen, Mercedes Benz
> and Volvo, all of which are subject to increasingly smaller corporate
> ownership. The pressures of competition mean that decisions about the
> engineering of Australian-made vehicles are made in Detroit, Tokyo, Seoul,
> Paris or Munich. To understand the potential for motor vehicle technologies
> to influence or control driving speed in light vehicles, heavy vehicles, and
> motorcycles there is a need to look beyond New South Wales, and beyond
> Australia. To that end I have requested approval for a further overseas
> study tour to Europe. Last year the committee went to Europe and looked at
> the trials of the first stage of the ISA, which provides that all vehicle
> speeds be controlled by satellite.
>
> The technology is available for that today. Europe maintains that by 2019
> all vehicles in Europe will drive under that system. Australia must keep up
> with that development. The system could be applied here within five years.
> In a few weeks time England is moving to stage two. I have suggested that we
> should be there to participate in that switch to stage two, to bring this
> country up to speed on ISA. It is only by global focus that we will be able
> to best identify recommendations for change and improvement. This may be a
> simple change, or it may be a major change such as the widespread
> introduction of ISA technologies.
>
> Along with numerous road safety experts, I believe that ISA is the greatest
> break-through in road safety ever. It will mean that police will be able to
> attend to policing and will not have to patrol roads to pick up speeding
> drivers. We will not need red light cameras because vehicles will not be
> able to exceed the speed set by the satellite. Technology is fed into the
> satellite and into car motors at a cost between $200 and 400 per vehicle.
> No-one will be able to drive faster than the set speed limit. Currently each
> year in the world 1.5 million people are killed in road crashes. If ISA were
> introduced tomorrow, by next Christmas 750,000 lives would be saved. It is
> only right and fair that Staysafe investigate that system. I have invited
> the media to meet us in England to look at this breakthrough in road safety
> and to make their own decisions on it. [Time expired.]
>
> Subjects: Road Safety.
>
> Speakers: Gibson, Mr Paul.
>
> Version: Proof NSW Legislative Assembly Hansard Article No.38 of
> 23/06/2004.
>
> Speech Type: PRIV; Private Members Statements.
>
>
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I think it's ridiculous!! Is that the overall speed of the bike/car
or does it monitor different speeding zones around town? If you've
got a car in front of you and want to overtake it you ALWAYS go over
the speed limit to get around it quickly and safely...
It's not the speed of the cars/bikes that cause accidents ... it's
the inexperienced drivers/riders!!
Typical example... today's paper had a 17 year old who had an
accident. Her dad gave her a brand new peugot because she got her
P's and she flipped it and killed a friend...sad, but it wasn't the
car... she had an accident because she was inexperienced. As for
city drivers who kill themselves on country roads, I just won't go
there...
I'll get off my soapbox now *grin*...
--- In bikers_anon@..., Chris Turner <christ@r...>
wrote:
>
> What happened last week in your Parliament..............
>
>
> Extract from NSW Legislative Assembly Hansard. This record is a
proof
> version. See bottom of page for classifications and links relating
to this
> extract.
>
> ROAD SAFETY
> Page: 70
>
>
> Mr PAUL GIBSON (Blacktown) [5.08 p.m.]: In mid-2003 I was elected
chairman
> of the Staysafe committee, which is a most privileged position. I
proposed
> that it was important to commence an inquiry into speed and motor
vehicle
> design. I remind honourable members that almost 600 people die on
New South
> Wales roads every year. The inquiry is to examine the potential
for motor
> vehicle technologies and to influence and control driving speeds
in light
> vehicles, heavy vehicles and motorcycles.
>
> The focus of the inquiry is on currently available motor vehicle-
based
> measures that better manage and control speed, that is, on
established or
> emerging technologies. The term "established" is usually used to
denote
> technologies that are already in general use, if not in New South
Wales,
> then in other jurisdictions. The word "emerging" means that the
technologies
> are in use but are not widely adopted and includes prototype
installations
> and experimental trials. The inquiry is reviewing speed management
and
> control systems that relate to vehicle design, including
intelligent speed
> adaptation [ISA], cruise control, speed alarms that are set by the
driver,
> on-board monitoring of vehicle speeds during journeys, and
speedometer
> scales and ergonomics.
>
> Some 10 or 15 years ago New South Wales was the world leader in
many areas
> of road safety, but it is now lagging behind. New South Wales was
a world
> leader in occupant restraint-particularly when it came to the
safety of
> babies and young kiddies in cars-and in areas such as bus safety.
We have
> lost a lot of that expertise; we became more reactive, less
experimental,
> more into using consumer demand, and less likely to pursue
regulations to
> deliver vehicle safety benefits. One of the initiatives of the
Staysafe
> Committee is getting out and looking at what other jurisdictions
are doing.
> In Australia today the leading focus would be the SafeCar project
in
> Victoria-which recently was on show in Orange, in the central west-
and the
> Australian New Car Assessment Program. Another initiative is to
look at
> overseas development, initiatives, trials and experiments.
>
> The motor vehicle industry is a global industry. We no longer have
national
> manufacturers; we have instead regional manufacturers that have
gone global,
> including Ford, General Motors, Renault, Toyota, Volkswagen,
Mercedes Benz
> and Volvo, all of which are subject to increasingly smaller
corporate
> ownership. The pressures of competition mean that decisions about
the
> engineering of Australian-made vehicles are made in Detroit,
Tokyo, Seoul,
> Paris or Munich. To understand the potential for motor vehicle
technologies
> to influence or control driving speed in light vehicles, heavy
vehicles, and
> motorcycles there is a need to look beyond New South Wales, and
beyond
> Australia. To that end I have requested approval for a further
overseas
> study tour to Europe. Last year the committee went to Europe and
looked at
> the trials of the first stage of the ISA, which provides that all
vehicle
> speeds be controlled by satellite.
>
> The technology is available for that today. Europe maintains that
by 2019
> all vehicles in Europe will drive under that system. Australia
must keep up
> with that development. The system could be applied here within
five years.
> In a few weeks time England is moving to stage two. I have
suggested that we
> should be there to participate in that switch to stage two, to
bring this
> country up to speed on ISA. It is only by global focus that we
will be able
> to best identify recommendations for change and improvement. This
may be a
> simple change, or it may be a major change such as the widespread
> introduction of ISA technologies.
>
> Along with numerous road safety experts, I believe that ISA is the
greatest
> break-through in road safety ever. It will mean that police will
be able to
> attend to policing and will not have to patrol roads to pick up
speeding
> drivers. We will not need red light cameras because vehicles will
not be
> able to exceed the speed set by the satellite. Technology is fed
into the
> satellite and into car motors at a cost between $200 and 400 per
vehicle.
> No-one will be able to drive faster than the set speed limit.
Currently each
> year in the world 1.5 million people are killed in road crashes.
If ISA were
> introduced tomorrow, by next Christmas 750,000 lives would be
saved. It is
> only right and fair that Staysafe investigate that system. I have
invited
> the media to meet us in England to look at this breakthrough in
road safety
> and to make their own decisions on it. [Time expired.]
>
>
> Subjects: Road Safety.
>
> Speakers: Gibson, Mr Paul.
>
> Version: Proof NSW Legislative Assembly Hansard Article No.38 of
> 23/06/2004.
>
> Speech Type: PRIV; Private Members Statements.
What happened last week in your Parliament..............
Extract from NSW Legislative Assembly Hansard. This record is a proof
version. See bottom of page for classifications and links relating to this
extract.
ROAD SAFETY
Page: 70
Mr PAUL GIBSON (Blacktown) [5.08 p.m.]: In mid-2003 I was elected chairman
of the Staysafe committee, which is a most privileged position. I proposed
that it was important to commence an inquiry into speed and motor vehicle
design. I remind honourable members that almost 600 people die on New South
Wales roads every year. The inquiry is to examine the potential for motor
vehicle technologies and to influence and control driving speeds in light
vehicles, heavy vehicles and motorcycles.
The focus of the inquiry is on currently available motor vehicle-based
measures that better manage and control speed, that is, on established or
emerging technologies. The term "established" is usually used to denote
technologies that are already in general use, if not in New South Wales,
then in other jurisdictions. The word "emerging" means that the technologies
are in use but are not widely adopted and includes prototype installations
and experimental trials. The inquiry is reviewing speed management and
control systems that relate to vehicle design, including intelligent speed
adaptation [ISA], cruise control, speed alarms that are set by the driver,
on-board monitoring of vehicle speeds during journeys, and speedometer
scales and ergonomics.
Some 10 or 15 years ago New South Wales was the world leader in many areas
of road safety, but it is now lagging behind. New South Wales was a world
leader in occupant restraint-particularly when it came to the safety of
babies and young kiddies in cars-and in areas such as bus safety. We have
lost a lot of that expertise; we became more reactive, less experimental,
more into using consumer demand, and less likely to pursue regulations to
deliver vehicle safety benefits. One of the initiatives of the Staysafe
Committee is getting out and looking at what other jurisdictions are doing.
In Australia today the leading focus would be the SafeCar project in
Victoria-which recently was on show in Orange, in the central west-and the
Australian New Car Assessment Program. Another initiative is to look at
overseas development, initiatives, trials and experiments.
The motor vehicle industry is a global industry. We no longer have national
manufacturers; we have instead regional manufacturers that have gone global,
including Ford, General Motors, Renault, Toyota, Volkswagen, Mercedes Benz
and Volvo, all of which are subject to increasingly smaller corporate
ownership. The pressures of competition mean that decisions about the
engineering of Australian-made vehicles are made in Detroit, Tokyo, Seoul,
Paris or Munich. To understand the potential for motor vehicle technologies
to influence or control driving speed in light vehicles, heavy vehicles, and
motorcycles there is a need to look beyond New South Wales, and beyond
Australia. To that end I have requested approval for a further overseas
study tour to Europe. Last year the committee went to Europe and looked at
the trials of the first stage of the ISA, which provides that all vehicle
speeds be controlled by satellite.
The technology is available for that today. Europe maintains that by 2019
all vehicles in Europe will drive under that system. Australia must keep up
with that development. The system could be applied here within five years.
In a few weeks time England is moving to stage two. I have suggested that we
should be there to participate in that switch to stage two, to bring this
country up to speed on ISA. It is only by global focus that we will be able
to best identify recommendations for change and improvement. This may be a
simple change, or it may be a major change such as the widespread
introduction of ISA technologies.
Along with numerous road safety experts, I believe that ISA is the greatest
break-through in road safety ever. It will mean that police will be able to
attend to policing and will not have to patrol roads to pick up speeding
drivers. We will not need red light cameras because vehicles will not be
able to exceed the speed set by the satellite. Technology is fed into the
satellite and into car motors at a cost between $200 and 400 per vehicle.
No-one will be able to drive faster than the set speed limit. Currently each
year in the world 1.5 million people are killed in road crashes. If ISA were
introduced tomorrow, by next Christmas 750,000 lives would be saved. It is
only right and fair that Staysafe investigate that system. I have invited
the media to meet us in England to look at this breakthrough in road safety
and to make their own decisions on it. [Time expired.]
Subjects: Road Safety.
Speakers: Gibson, Mr Paul.
Version: Proof NSW Legislative Assembly Hansard Article No.38 of
23/06/2004.
Speech Type: PRIV; Private Members Statements.
Hi all!!
I am going on the Kangaroo Valley weekend away and doing the 'slow' ride
down which means that we have to meet at Casula... Well if anyone else
is doing the slow ride and wants to meet me somewhere in Sydney so we
can ride together to the meeting point, please let me know!! I live in
Leichhardt and can meet pretty much anywhere BEFORE Casula ;-)
Cheers!!
Pegs
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I have a VFR800 Red Bagster Tank cover for sale , It is Brand New &
unused. Looking at 50% of retail value. Have just listed on ebay if
you want to see a pic. Will remove from there if one of you are keen
to buy. Email me or call on 0405 385 719.
Also , Dririder Voyager tankbag, as new. Only used for trip down to
last years GP. rrp $149.00.Also listed on ebay with pic.
Must sell or wife is gonna go ape ..... Make me an offer!
Cheers
Justin
Arncliffe
"A slow late morning ride up the old road, friday 1030 at the mobil
Anyone up for it...
Troy"
Yeah I may be up for it, but I think we may have a difference of
opinion as to what slow is! you go slow and I'll try to keep up! ;o)
well , speaking of good service - I joined BA last sat night at the
Monkey Bar (was only there for a very short time - a Guiness and
to join so I could go to Rockley the next morning). Was sent there
by Chris after he sold me a washing machine - great service
Chris
Oh crap! I guess I was wrong to praise ol' Steve when I shoulda known he had
been up to mischief in the past. All I can add to my earlier statements is that
I seem to have struck up a really good relationship with Freedom, having bought
3 bikes (and counting: the new fireblade is enticing and you only live once (or
twice, but that is a matter for another forum LOL) thus far from them. They keep
giving me good deals and good service. I will accept that no dealer in these
hard times is expected to be perfect. Really, I was just so surprised
(pleasantly) for a change to witness the degree of care taken with my bike being
used to generally poor service from other retail dealers and having generally
average expectations. I work as a salesman for harvey Norman (can't wait for the
response to that one!) and try hard to create a good impression in an extremely
tough market sector and realise that it is impossible to please everyone all the
time. Maybe we could have him talk about the business of selling motorcycles at
a club night at DeNiros if we could keep the negative criticism to a minimum.
I'm sure he could provide a few illuminations on what must be a very tough
business. Appreciate your comments, Chris
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I'm looking for people who might be interested in my 2002 ZX-6R.
I'd be looking at $7000 ono.
Titanium yoshi pipe, K&N filter, double-H sintered pads, Iridium
plugs, bubble screen, carbon hugger, brand new Sportec M-1s fitted,
new aftermarket steering head bearings, 24,000 km on the clock.
Five things you'll like about the '02 ZX-6R
* 636cc engine gives it a mid-range kick that the other 600s can't match.
* Last of the comfortable 600s! Comfortable riding position and
generous pillion seat, not as cramped as the latest models.
* Despite being the heaviest 600 of its era (by a small margin), it
has the lightest steering thanks to good geometry.
* Bullet-proof Kawasaki engine will keep on ticking. Oil has been
changed on this bike more frequently than recommended intervals, every
5000km.
* Last model before the Kawasaki people radically changed their 600,
this means a wide range of aftermarket and wrecked parts are available
to fit this bike at somewhat cheaper costs than for the '03 model
onwards.
The catch is that this bike has some cosmetic damage. It has scratches
on the left and right side fairings; the result of some very low speed
accidents in the city. The damage is simply not significant enough (in
my mind) to justify repairing. There is also a crack in the rear
hugger (the result of getting a bolt through the rear tyre that
rotated around and went through the hugger as well).
Here are some photos of the bike (prior to the scratches appearing on
the right hand side), taken just after I put the yoshi on:
http://www.hagus.net/photos/yoshi/yoshi.html
The upside is that it's the perfect bike for someone looking to step
up to 600s. At least with this bike when the inevitable bingle or
drop-in-the-driveway happens you won't have damaged your perfect baby!
It's also ideal for a commuter or conversion to track bike. There are
also heaps of aftermarket bits attached, as noted above.
Interested parties should feel free to contact Luke on 0414 474 139.
Regards,
Luke.
Guys i forgot to mention, i live at carlingford (not toooooo far from
chatswood)
Amz!!
From: Chris Turner <christ@...>
To: 'Amberley Hokin' <yesdear_20@...>,
bikers_anon@...
Subject: RE: [bikers_anon] Re: Sundays Moto GP
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:17:25 +1000
Hmmm a pyjama-motoGP...?
-----Original Message-----
From: Amberley Hokin [mailto:yesdear_20@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 30 June 2004 3:58 PM
To: ducati_lass@...; bikers_anon@...
Subject: RE: [bikers_anon] Re: Sundays Moto GP
Heres an idea kids
I have foxtel as im sure heaps of us do.... hows about an impromptu change
of location?
also have a fridge stocked with home brew and a fully stocked cocktail bar
We could start early and have a bbq if anyone is interested (just a thought)
heaps of floor space here or you can fight over the spare room but please
just dont trash the house
Cheers
Amber
From: "Robyn" <ducati_lass@...>
To: bikers_anon@...
Subject: [bikers_anon] Re: Sundays Moto GP
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 04:29:14 -0000
"Sean Hawley" > wrote: You are right, the Foxtel Live broadcast is
12:00-4:00am Monday morning so the Monkey Bar will NOT be showing it.
I don't understand why the Moto GP evening is canceled. I am sure
Grant could stock his fridge with alcohol (it doesn't have anything
else in it), purchase a plasma screen and subscribe to Foxtel.
Cheeky :-)
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From: Amberley Hokin [mailto:yesdear_20@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 30 June 2004 3:58 PM
To: ducati_lass@...; bikers_anon@...
Subject: RE: [bikers_anon] Re: Sundays Moto GP
Heres an idea kids
I have foxtel as im sure heaps of us do.... hows about an impromptu change
of location?
also have a fridge stocked with home brew and a fully stocked cocktail bar
We could start early and have a bbq if anyone is interested (just a thought)
heaps of floor space here or you can fight over the spare room but please
just dont trash the house
Cheers
Amber
From: "Robyn" <ducati_lass@...>
To: bikers_anon@...
Subject: [bikers_anon] Re: Sundays Moto GP
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 04:29:14 -0000
"Sean Hawley" > wrote: You are right, the Foxtel Live broadcast is
12:00-4:00am Monday morning so the Monkey Bar will NOT be showing it.
I don't understand why the Moto GP evening is canceled. I am sure
Grant could stock his fridge with alcohol (it doesn't have anything
else in it), purchase a plasma screen and subscribe to Foxtel.
Cheeky :-)
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Quick note...
Also have plenty of parking for bikes, cars, planes, horses or
whatever mode of transportation is required to get your butts here.
Most of you im sure need to be able to wake up bright and early for
work monday morning so an idea of numbers would be appreciated unless
anyone has some better ideas of location?
Cheers
Amber
Heres an idea kids
I have foxtel as im sure heaps of us do.... hows about an impromptu change
of location?
also have a fridge stocked with home brew and a fully stocked cocktail bar
We could start early and have a bbq if anyone is interested (just a thought)
heaps of floor space here or you can fight over the spare room but please
just dont trash the house
Cheers
Amber
From: "Robyn" <ducati_lass@...>
To: bikers_anon@...
Subject: [bikers_anon] Re: Sundays Moto GP
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 04:29:14 -0000
"Sean Hawley" > wrote: You are right, the Foxtel Live broadcast is
12:00-4:00am Monday morning so the Monkey Bar will NOT be showing it.
I don't understand why the Moto GP evening is canceled. I am sure
Grant could stock his fridge with alcohol (it doesn't have anything
else in it), purchase a plasma screen and subscribe to Foxtel.
Cheeky :-)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Brodie Betts [mailto:brodieb@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 3:25 PM
To: bikers_anon@...; girlsrideout@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bikers_anon] Good service
Hello people! I just wanted to add to the below post, knowing freedom at
brookvale quite well.......
Steve is VERY anti-anything illegal on your bike. Be prepared for a very
very stern lecture AT THE LEAST, that is if he even lets you have your
bike
back...... and be prepared not to tell him if you have illegal things on
your bike, who did it for you! Because he will report them!
And although chris, you seem to have come away a winner in your
situation,(detailed etc) you are lucky he didn't wack it on your bill.
He
has, in the past done about $1500 worth of unauthorised work to my
friends
bike because HE said it needed it, even though he was specifically told
that
if the quote was to vary by more than $200, to call him. After a fight,
he
agreed to drop the "unauthorised repairs" to just the cost of
parts........
still about $750.
The whole time he would not budge off the fact that because the bike was
in
the condition it was in (needing repairs) that he had the right to just
go
ahead and do it, in the name of safety..........without consultation.
When I was there about a month ago, to spend $500 on tyres, he gave my
friend a huge lecture on having cut out the undertail of his bike and
all
the other mods he had that wernt exactly "legal" And warned us if we
were to
bring the bike there in that state, he would have to keep it till it was
legal again.......
Needless to say, after spending all that money, I DID NOT want to stand
there listeneing to crap like that.......... So I informed him that "I
wouldnt bring my bike here anyway, so you don't need to worry about it"
He
still went On and on and on and on and on and on...........
I do agree that Lenka is GREAT! She knows her stuff and she is very
nice.
So anyway, there are always two different experiences to every story
arent
there? And maybe the do gooders will say "well, if your bike isnt
illegal,
and in good nick anyway, hes probably a wonderful choice" I agree!
But anyone with a fender eliminator, or a loud exhaust (or not standard
these days!) or any other number of things, is riding an illegal
bike...........
But like I said, there are two sides to every situation, quite
obviously,
and it is all a matter of personal choice.........
cheerio
Brodes
Original Message -----
From: "christopher bickley" <scor_pioau@...>
To: <bikers_anon@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 9:57 PM
Subject: [bikers_anon] Good service
> Hi one and all! I just got my baby (cbr600RR) back
> from a service from my local dealer, Freedom
> motorcycles in Brookvale on the northern beaches. It
> was put in for a 6000km service although I had done
> only 5200 kms; I believe in changing the oil at least
> before the stated intervals to keep it purring like
> new. When I put the Honda in for service it was a bit
> grubby and had a couple of small scratches on the tank
> where the primer was showing through. When I was
> phoned to retrieve it I found it indistinguishable
> from the new bike in the showroom! Not only had it
> been the recipient of a minor detailing but it runs
> better than new, the latter being normal I guess after
> the first major service.
> I believe in passing on to others instances of
> superior attention from a bike dealer/service agent,
> more so since the forum about good/bad service on the
> site a while ago. What made it more impressive was
> that Steve, the owner is working alone and up to the
> gills with work at the moment. If there are any good
> mechanics looking for work I suggest they give him a
> buzz on ; (02) 99384777. Well done Steve and Lenka!
> Chris Bickley
>
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Hello people! I just wanted to add to the below post, knowing freedom at
brookvale quite well.......
Steve is VERY anti-anything illegal on your bike. Be prepared for a very
very stern lecture AT THE LEAST, that is if he even lets you have your bike
back...... and be prepared not to tell him if you have illegal things on
your bike, who did it for you! Because he will report them!
And although chris, you seem to have come away a winner in your
situation,(detailed etc) you are lucky he didn't wack it on your bill. He
has, in the past done about $1500 worth of unauthorised work to my friends
bike because HE said it needed it, even though he was specifically told that
if the quote was to vary by more than $200, to call him. After a fight, he
agreed to drop the "unauthorised repairs" to just the cost of parts........
still about $750.
The whole time he would not budge off the fact that because the bike was in
the condition it was in (needing repairs) that he had the right to just go
ahead and do it, in the name of safety..........without consultation.
When I was there about a month ago, to spend $500 on tyres, he gave my
friend a huge lecture on having cut out the undertail of his bike and all
the other mods he had that wernt exactly "legal" And warned us if we were to
bring the bike there in that state, he would have to keep it till it was
legal again.......
Needless to say, after spending all that money, I DID NOT want to stand
there listeneing to crap like that.......... So I informed him that "I
wouldnt bring my bike here anyway, so you don't need to worry about it" He
still went On and on and on and on and on and on...........
I do agree that Lenka is GREAT! She knows her stuff and she is very nice.
So anyway, there are always two different experiences to every story arent
there? And maybe the do gooders will say "well, if your bike isnt illegal,
and in good nick anyway, hes probably a wonderful choice" I agree!
But anyone with a fender eliminator, or a loud exhaust (or not standard
these days!) or any other number of things, is riding an illegal
bike...........
But like I said, there are two sides to every situation, quite obviously,
and it is all a matter of personal choice.........
cheerio
Brodes
Original Message -----
From: "christopher bickley" <scor_pioau@...>
To: <bikers_anon@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 9:57 PM
Subject: [bikers_anon] Good service
> Hi one and all! I just got my baby (cbr600RR) back
> from a service from my local dealer, Freedom
> motorcycles in Brookvale on the northern beaches. It
> was put in for a 6000km service although I had done
> only 5200 kms; I believe in changing the oil at least
> before the stated intervals to keep it purring like
> new. When I put the Honda in for service it was a bit
> grubby and had a couple of small scratches on the tank
> where the primer was showing through. When I was
> phoned to retrieve it I found it indistinguishable
> from the new bike in the showroom! Not only had it
> been the recipient of a minor detailing but it runs
> better than new, the latter being normal I guess after
> the first major service.
> I believe in passing on to others instances of
> superior attention from a bike dealer/service agent,
> more so since the forum about good/bad service on the
> site a while ago. What made it more impressive was
> that Steve, the owner is working alone and up to the
> gills with work at the moment. If there are any good
> mechanics looking for work I suggest they give him a
> buzz on ; (02) 99384777. Well done Steve and Lenka!
> Chris Bickley
>
> Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
> http://au.movies.yahoo.com
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email with subject "unsubscribe"
> to: bikers_anon-unsubscribe@...
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
"Sean Hawley" > wrote: You are right, the Foxtel Live broadcast is
12:00-4:00am Monday morning so the Monkey Bar will NOT be showing it.
I don't understand why the Moto GP evening is canceled. I am sure
Grant could stock his fridge with alcohol (it doesn't have anything
else in it), purchase a plasma screen and subscribe to Foxtel.
Cheeky :-)
Hi All,
Aunty Mal asked if I could let you all know that he has the Gilera
125 DNA Scooter for sale. It only has 1,500kms on the clock and is
basically as new. It has 12 months rego and a new battery. All for
the bargain price of $3950. I have posted a photo in the for sale
folder.
If you would like more details please contact Aunty Mal on 0404 002
427
Cheers, Robyn.
Holly,
Thanks for the reminder to check the times out.
You are right, the Foxtel Live broadcast is 12:00-4:00am Monday
morning so the Monkey Bar will NOT be showing it.
Sean
--- In bikers_anon@..., "wicked_ways_summer_days"
<wicked_ways_summer_days@y...> wrote:
> Hello People,
>
> New to this so I will apologise in advance if I have done this
> wrong . .
>
> My name is Holly and I joined BA at the begining of the year, so I
am
> relatively new to the group. As I have done for the past couple of
> weeks I was going to head to the Monkey Bar this Sunday to watch
the
> Moto Gp, however I have since found out that the race doesn't kick
> off until 12am. Although the Monkey Bar has showed on many
occasions
> that they will do anything to keep us, the paying and loyal
> customers, happy (ok SOMETIMES)- I doubt very much that they will
> extend their working hours.
> I didn't know who to tell and just in case some people should show
up
> expecting to watch the race normal time I thought it best to tell
> everyone. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news ;(
> Its times like these I wish I had Foxtel!!
> Alright then, might see some of you this weekend down Kangaroo
Valley?
> And remember if you can't be good, then for f*cks sake, at least be
> good at it!
>
> Cheers and Beers and pardon my french,
> Holly
Hello People,
New to this so I will apologise in advance if I have done this
wrong . .
My name is Holly and I joined BA at the begining of the year, so I am
relatively new to the group. As I have done for the past couple of
weeks I was going to head to the Monkey Bar this Sunday to watch the
Moto Gp, however I have since found out that the race doesn't kick
off until 12am. Although the Monkey Bar has showed on many occasions
that they will do anything to keep us, the paying and loyal
customers, happy (ok SOMETIMES)- I doubt very much that they will
extend their working hours.
I didn't know who to tell and just in case some people should show up
expecting to watch the race normal time I thought it best to tell
everyone. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news ;(
Its times like these I wish I had Foxtel!!
Alright then, might see some of you this weekend down Kangaroo Valley?
And remember if you can't be good, then for f*cks sake, at least be
good at it!
Cheers and Beers and pardon my french,
Holly
LOL "Losing License so has to go!" Now there's a sales pitch for you! :)
Tara
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:36:47 +1000, manny wrote
> On Ebay, 8 hours to go, no bids so far, starting at $6500, Looks
> good in pics but I wouldn't bid without looking first.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=2483053256&ssPageName=ADME:B:DS:AU:28
Bit confusing that article. Yes no yes no yes no yes no... it's up to
you. Oh, thanks for that mr specialist protective clothing guru.
I'm one of the nerds who wears one every time I get on my BM chookie.
Many would say it's overkill, but the one time I was knocked off, was
about 1k from my doorstep.
They hit you when you least expect it.
Phil.
Sharp front stand and Anderson universal rear stand for sale.
Drop me a line if interested.
cheers,
Doc
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Between the two joints on the finger on the right (image looking at
palm side), effectively dividing the bone into two halves.
Actually id rather be bitch to one of the
girls/ladies/women/chicks/babes/... No offense guys :)
Sean
--- In bikers_anon@..., "Paul" <scubakiwi@s...> wrote:
> There's a few of us on Deanopix from the ride on Sunday ... yay I
> finally got to see myself on my bike!
> now about this Xray on the front page of the Yahoo Groups site ...
> where's the break? Sean I hope your not faking it just so you can
go
> Pillion on the back of all the boys bikes?! ;o)
Ditto to Luke on that one.
No back protector will prevent torsional (twisting) or compressive (squashing of
vertebrae and discs) type injuries to the spine. You would need to be in some
massive frame to do that.
They will, however, minimise initial impact force (vertebral spinous
protrusions being 'slapped' into the tar) and minimise abrasion and foreign
objects entering through the back. The initial 'slapping impact is the worst for
bones. For example, I have slightly softer armour in my leathers so the padding
absorbs some of the initial impact, rather than just immediately transferring
the shock through to elbow joints and shoulders etc.
A good idea if you do decide to purchase a back protector is to get on that has
a supportive elastic kidney band as well (just ask any of the old motocrossers
about having kidneys shaken around).
As with all safety information, at least if given some valid information as to
the purpose and abilities of the item, then an informed choice can be made.
2 cents from Doc
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----- Original Message -----
From: Luke Burton
To: bikers_anon@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [bikers_anon] Back Protectors article
I always wear a back protector; I feel naked without it.
I've had several fairly high speed accidents on the track and some low
speed prangs on the road. All of them involved some degree of sliding
on my back, which is an experience I would not like to repeat without
a back protector.
Saying a back protector does not guard against *all* kinds of spinal
injury does not provide an excuse not to wear one. If you're doing
sports riding, you should take all reasonable measures to protector
yourself. Good leathers, helmet, gloves, boots, and back protector are
a must.
After you've binned the bike and sent yourself through the grass
Shinya Nakano style, you'll want to be wearing this stuff. Even if you
break something, which can never be completely guarded against, you
will feel a lot better knowing that it could have been much worse
without your protective gear.
I'm not making a statement about wearing this stuff all the time; I'm
just saying that a back protector should be part of your plan to
protect *as much* of you as possible if you decide to do that.
Rgz,
Luke.
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