Can anyone from the motorcycle council clarify a persons rights with
reguards to unmarked police vehicles.I have noticed in the media that
the police want to use more of them.The council for civil liberties
have stated that the use of these vehicles is not real kosher.I have
noticed at least 4 unmarked vehicles booking people on the M4 in the
last month.Id just like to know where i stand incase im ever
entrapped by our wonderful police farce??????????

hi all

i have a set of Michelin Pilot Sports for sale, they have only done
180kms, they only on the bike while i ran it in (Ducati 800
supersport).
120/70 front
170/60 rear

should fit most 600 to 800cc bikes

offers over $180 for the set

mark
0418 628 503

Hughsy,

Speaking for myself, as one of the 'last-minute bail outs' I don't
have a problem paying you the $40. Just tell me how and I will.
Does BA have an account?  Or else, perhaps on the mid-month GRO ride
if anyone from BA is going on that, I could give the money to them.

Cheers,
Marie


>
> On a more sombre note, I feel compelled to comment re the bail
outs
> at the last minute. The consistent quailty of these weekends away,
> which are always inexpensive individually, demand your commitment
as
> well as significant financial resources in line with final numbers
> that close off 5 days prior to the day of departure. I must admit,
it
> doesn't fill me with alot of confidence or enthusiasm for the
future
> when i now have to collect the balance of committed funds after an
> event to break even at cost.
>
> Again my sincere thanks to all.
>
> Hughsy

ask nicely and  you may not have to download it ;-)

> yet...
> you can download it off the net though...

Just been up to MAW and Gregs team came 1st in their class and 8th
overall. Congratulations!

Apparently classes are based on highest graded rider and bike class.

Sean

--- In bikers_anon@..., "a2r" <addicted2risk@y...>
wrote:
>
> Im not sure anybody could work out how they decided what class
people
> were in, which seemed to confuse people as to how they finished.
>
> No winners trophies for Team Northside - ChrisT, Grant, Mark W and
> Carl (absent), or Team Bikescape - Terry, Deb, Mark (mess), Stevo
> and ???. But all competitors got a trophy for competing.
>
> I beleive Greg from MAW's team won or placed in one of the classes.
>
> Anyone else got a better idea of who came where?
>
> Sean
>
> --- In bikers_anon@..., "greg barnett"
> <blackbird1100@o...> wrote:
> > How did ba go in the six hour yesterday? cheers greg
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi all

Firstly thank you to the 18 or so members who attended, for the great
company and friendship, i'm sure i speak for all in saying that we
enjoyed an incident free fantastic 3 days away.

Special thanks to Jaime (Sleepy) for the best ever camp tucker, whole
lamb on a spit Sat night, beautiful beef roast Sunday with every
extra you could think of.

To Kath and Lou who kept the washing up under control and every one
who helped out with all the other little jobs, thanks again.

Well the photo's tell the story (thanks to all the photographers),
other than a brief shower on the ride down and a few showers Saturday
arvo and one showery squall Sun arvo, every one got their tents
pitched and packed away dry, the weather was kind given the prelude
of Friday last.

How good was Jimmy on Sunday eh ? He said to me after the gig "it was
a pleasure to play to an engrossed audience and not have to compete
with the din of a city venue, i just played for 3 hours and it felt
like ten minutes". Bathed in stars and moonlight, the sound of
croaking frogs in the background, the clear and engaging tones of a
Maton acoustic guitar and Jim's vocals rang out across the mirror
still lake and just filled the valley, it was one of those evenings
and atmospheres you remember for a lifetime.

Yes we will do another camping weekend sometime, and with any dodgy
weather scenario, we will always offer the option of coming by car,
I'm not so sure a long weekend in the middle of school holidays is
the best timing though.

On a more sombre note, I feel compelled to comment re the bail outs
at the last minute. The consistent quailty of these weekends away,
which are always inexpensive individually, demand your commitment as
well as significant financial resources in line with final numbers
that close off 5 days prior to the day of departure. I must admit, it
doesn't fill me with alot of confidence or enthusiasm for the future
when i now have to collect the balance of committed funds after an
event to break even at cost.

Again my sincere thanks to all.

Hughsy

There is a "must see" Movie being shown at Monkey Bar this Wednesday
evening.

The movie has a lot to do with going "Quicker" on those neat things
we all like (read between the lines people...)

"If you miss this one your a goose..."

Time: Movie starts at 8pm sharp.
Best get there before that time say 7 - 7:30 so you can have a brew
and some of their great food!

Place: Monkey Bar, 53 Orchard Rd, Chatswood.  (Corner of Help and
Orchard, 100M west of Chatswood station on the Northern side of the
line)

Don't call or email me, just be there...

Im not sure anybody could work out how they decided what class people
were in, which seemed to confuse people as to how they finished.

No winners trophies for Team Northside - ChrisT, Grant, Mark W and
Carl (absent), or Team Bikescape - Terry, Deb, Mark (mess), Stevo
and ???. But all competitors got a trophy for competing.

I beleive Greg from MAW's team won or placed in one of the classes.

Anyone else got a better idea of who came where?

Sean

--- In bikers_anon@..., "greg barnett"
<blackbird1100@o...> wrote:
> How did ba go in the six hour yesterday? cheers greg
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

What a blasting fantastic weekend! I hear that Hughesy's partie W/E was
a winner too - now only waiting to hear of winners from the 6 hours!

Here's what I've been up to:

Saturday:
Leave the house at 6:05
             Old Road
             Wollombi
             Broke
             Singleton (200km)
             Gresford
             Dungog
             Gloucester
             Walcha (300km)
             Telegraph Point
             Uranga (311.7 km)
Arrived at 17:00
Total Kms: 811.7
Av: ~ 74 km/h

Sunday:
Leave Bellingen at 6:30
             Dorrigo
             Ebor
             Wollomombi to
             Kempsey via dirt road (check the pic in photos section for a
weird road sign!)
             Telegraph Point (314.9km)
             <some little dirt road that rejoined the Oxley 20 kms west
of Long Flat>
             Walcha (194.3km)
             Gloucester
             Dungog
             Gresford
             Singleton (293.7km)
             Windsor
             Home (257.9km)
Arrived at 19:00
Total kms: 1060.8
Av: ~ 84 km/h

Fuel consumption was between 6.10 l/100km and 6.66 l/100km (this *evil*
fuel consumption reflects the hoon up the Oxley).

Oh, Monday. gave the bike a service then feet up and dreaming of the
bendy bits.

Phil


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Too many variables. Different people angle there head slightly
differently and sit in a different position in the air flow. Height,
riding style etc affect these sort of things. Then theres the
different air flow coming off different bikes. However, some UK bike
mags do comparisons occasionally. I dont have a copy of any
unforetunately.

I find my current AXO RR6? very noisy but others with the same helmet
do not. However i like the helmet because it fits well, is lighter
than most (carbon fibre shell), and the shell is smaller than my
previous helmet so it doesnt rub as badly on my jacket collar.

I always wear earplugs with any helmet.

Sean

--- In bikers_anon@..., "peter barnett"
<pbarnett@b...> wrote:
> Hoping to tap into the wealth of experience that contributes to
this forum, I have a question. Does one brand of helmet have a better
reputation for aerodynamics, ie quieter in use, than any of the
others?  I notice that many members own Shoei lids.( For some reason
my snug fitting Arai will have to be replaced.)  Was never happy with
the visor changing mechanism either.. Would appreciate input from the
crew...  Peter B, who will be riding something to PI.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

A good question, but it really is something that changes from head to head
- they come in all different shapes - heads that is.

Shoei seem to fit most people well. I bought a HJC fibreglass/carbon
composite with snell and dot aproval. Things I liked was the shell
construction, the chin and breath guard (important for where I live up in
the mountains), the easy visor removal and the graphics, oh, and the price
(was on special in my size at the time). It is quieter than my last
helmet, probably mostly due to the visor. It also has very good vision
compared to the sharks etc, but the Shoei wins on this one.

If I were shopping for a helmet, where I wanted the best chance of a good
fit and good sound proofing, I would be looking at Shoei.

Cheers, James.
99 Aprilia RS250
96 Suzuki RGV <--- FOR SALE $4,000.

--
James Murray
0411-227-493

Looking for some people to help out on the BA stand also still after
a couple of "males" to help out with the fashion parade

Cheers, Robyn
Social Manager

Ok I know you are not going to believe this, because I can't, but my
inbox was swamped with people reserving their place for the
Christmas party. For all those people who asked about getting their
deposit to me. At this stage it is not urgent but I will be
collecting deposits at the monthly dinners or you can give it to me
when on a ride.

Cheers, Robyn
BA Social Manager

agv gp pro...
rossi replica paint optional... ;)
most comfortable thing ive EVER stuck on my head...
bought it on the spot despite having 3 other helmets
at home... you can find em for $600 which is cheaper
than most shoei and arais...

Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
http://au.movies.yahoo.com

its not torque 2...
its a doco about the end of the 500's and the start of
motogp... its really good but not available here
yet...
you can download it off the net though...

Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
http://au.movies.yahoo.com

I've put up some of my photos from Hughseys weekend, check out the
blue sky and the superb set up of the camp!

Yes, it was a VERY relaxing Weekend, although Steve "the weather
man" Hughes
was stressing every second a cloud appeared. Every time he tired to
re-assure himself, and US,  it was fine - it started to sprinkle,
rain, blow
a gail. But fortunately these weather turmoils only lasted a short
time!!!
and Yes the sun shone again !! Cath was correct in her statement
that "it
has never stormed when I'm around".

The food prepared by Sleepy or "Snoozy" or "Stumpy" (I couldn't
remember his
name) was supberb. I thank him immensely (my waist-line is not so
thankful
!!). Steve and Cath and whoever was responsible - were the perfect
hosts. we
didn't have to lift a finger all weekend, except to feed and part-
take in
the odd beverage or 2 or 3 or !!!!! -  But everyone was SO well
behaved and
it was just perfect. Even in the open shower - there were No perverts
lurking around - So I had to take my husband, Alan.

Not being a seasoned camper, with the correct thermal sleeping bag,
I was a
bit chilly the first night even with 2 layers of clothing on. The
second
night "Toby" was starting to look good even without a bath, but
Hughsie came
to my rescue with a real beaut "sauna" type bag. Slept like a baby.

Jimmy , our guest singer was a real hit singing some lovely oldies,
in which
you could actually hear the words and think about the song. All this
as we
sat around the camp fire, stars overhead, the dam glistening with
the lights
of the camp, and "Toby" the dog at feet, made the perfect scene.

Also like to thank all the gang, who offered lots of interesting
conversation and were just an all -round nice bunch of people. The
rides we
had were so organised and very responsibly run and everyone looked
after
eachother.

Thanks again to all concerned.

Only downfall - The Bulldogs Won!!

Angie (& Alan)

For those going up saturday morning their is a group leaving from berowra at
9.00. Meet at the mobil at 8.30, going via wollombi, broke & onto singleton,
then up the new england to nundle. If you are coming & running late this is my
mobile 0405802871, we,ll be gone by 9.05 cheers greg

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Yep, What a great relaxing weekend!!!! Thanks Hughsey and everyone else who made
this weekend happen. Have to mention 'SLEEPY' the cook who worked like a well
oiled machine to present great camp food, awesome......
It was great to have gear taken down there and back and just concentrate on
enjoying the ride. How cool was it to sit around the fire with a beer and good
company after the days ride.
As for the weather, apart from a few little drops ; ) it was perfect.....
WHENS THE NEXT ONE???????? Count us in......
Cheers,
A very relaxed Ray&Fi........

greg barnett <blackbird1100@...> wrote:
Saturday morning was overcast out here so i packed my bags for the weekend, as i
wasn,t leaving with the main group in the morning as i was in a draw for a car
at auto pro at blacktown to win a fc holden fully restored drive away. No i
didn,t win the car, the bloke after me did, so back home on the bike & down the
hume. Went through a coupla showers, didn,t bother to stop & put wet gear on,
but at Marulan it came down so i pulled into the bp to wait while the storm
passed. Then rocked in to the camp, we had a coupla showers late afternoon,
early evening, but by the time we went to bed the stars were out. Speaking to
guy stanford from motorcycle council sat night & learnt a lot about what the
council is doing for all motor cycle riders. Told guy about the photo,s from
han,s & he said he had checked out the story behind the crash, seems the crash
was in south africa & the bloke went into the tree,s, which was what ripped him
apart, i,m not game to think how fast he was going. Sunday
  morning fine so 7 of us went to braidwood for a run. While their 3 evil knevils
went through town heading for batemans bay, later when we left & were heading
back we past the fourth evil knevil who gave us a wave as he went by. We went
back to goulburn, so mark could get some more beer & then we split up, Fi, Paul,
Angie & Allan went back the freeway to the camp while Ray, Mark & I went back
the way we had come out in the morning. We got cruising along & got back to camp
before the others & we went the long way. Ten minutes back & we got the edge of
the storm passing by & that was the last of the rain. Excellent night around the
fire, though lou tried to smoke us all out lol, then with jimmy singing & tony
joining in with the didgerdo kepted us enterained for the night. This morning we
packed up & lefted at different times, for those who pulled out , what can i
say, your lose our gain, thanks to sleepy for the excellent food over the
weekend, the excellent company with the stories
  tall & true & to hughsy for putting this on again , so when is the next one?,
it was a easy relaxing weekend, thank you. cheers greg

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How did ba go in the six hour yesterday? cheers greg

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Saturday morning was overcast out here so i packed my bags for the weekend, as i
wasn,t leaving with the main group in the morning as i was in a draw for a car
at auto pro at blacktown to win a fc holden fully restored drive away. No i
didn,t win the car, the bloke after me did, so back home on the bike & down the
hume. Went through a coupla showers, didn,t bother to stop & put wet gear on,
but at Marulan it came down so i pulled into the bp to wait while the storm
passed. Then rocked in to the camp, we had a coupla showers late afternoon,
early evening, but by the time we went to bed the stars were out. Speaking to
guy stanford from motorcycle council sat night & learnt a lot about what the
council is doing for all motor cycle riders. Told guy about the photo,s from
han,s & he said he had checked out the story behind the crash, seems the crash
was in south africa & the bloke went into the tree,s, which was what ripped him
apart, i,m not game to think how fast he was going. Sunday morning fine so 7 of
us went to braidwood for a run. While their 3 evil knevils went through town
heading for batemans bay, later when we left & were heading back we past the
fourth evil knevil who gave us a wave as he went by. We went back to goulburn,
so mark could get some more beer & then we split up, Fi, Paul, Angie & Allan
went back the freeway to the camp while Ray, Mark & I went back the way we had
come out in the morning. We got cruising along & got back to camp before the
others & we went the long way. Ten minutes back & we got the edge of the storm
passing by & that was the last of the rain. Excellent night around the fire,
though lou tried to smoke us all out lol, then with jimmy singing & tony joining
in with the didgerdo kepted us enterained for the night. This morning we packed
up & lefted at different times, for those who pulled out , what can i say, your
lose our gain, thanks to sleepy for the excellent food over the weekend, the
excellent company with the stories tall & true & to hughsy for putting this on
again , so when is the next one?, it was a easy relaxing weekend, thank you.
cheers greg

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(I guess those responding here are either not away with BA or are
using the BA satellite and wireless network).

Unless the shopkeeper is going to let you ride up "the old road" to
try each helmet out, how can you know what the noise (even vent
whistle) is going to be like?
I have had two different Shoei lids and both have felt/sounded
different on the bike.
But let's face it, looks are most important. If you look the business
who cares about fit, weight, safety, wash-ability, visor swapping,
aeroydynamics...

SH (ahh, such a lovely day. Think I might go for a ride... again).

--- In bikers_anon@..., "alxxr" <alx_yahoo@a...> wrote:
> Yes, I only seem to get buffeting when I have to slow up and look
> behind to see you wobblin' around the last corner behind me.
>
> Well, either it's buffeting or hysterical gigglin' ehhe.
>
>
>
> --- In bikers_anon@..., Dave ZX9R <ozzak@y...> wrote:
> > there's a black thingy on the left side of my shoei helmet which i
> > can turn downwards slightly to stop the visor from shutting
> > completely or back up so it shuts fully...
> > reckon all helmets have the same wind buffeting issue, boils down
to
> > the rider's aerodynamics too i'd say.
> > alx, maybe you dont go fast enough with the BMW helmet hence the
no
> > buffeting?  :P
> >
> >
> >
> > --- alxxr <alx_yahoo@a...> wrote:
> >
> > > Helmet noise is a mute (sic) point if you wear earplugs, which
I
> do
> > >
> > > for most rides, especially long trips.
> > >
> > > Can't comment on brands but if you do find a helmet that fits
and
> > > other features appeal, then noise issue is of secondary
> importance
> > > with earplugs.
> > >
> > > Additional significant noise reduction can be achieved by neck
> > > warmers and helmet designs that fit snugly around the neck.
Even
> > > stuff a scarf up around after puttin' on t' helmet.
> > >
> > >
> > > Other aerodynamic issues:-
> > >
> > > 1) Buffeting... subject to rider height and bike/fairing design.
> > > Bit
> > > hard to comment on therefore, no issues with BMW helmet though.
> > >
> > > 2) Visor - can you crack it open a notch without being shut by
> wind
> > >
> > > (BMW helmets are fine, dunno about any others)
> > >
> > >
> > > alx
> > >
> > >

Yes, I only seem to get buffeting when I have to slow up and look
behind to see you wobblin' around the last corner behind me.

Well, either it's buffeting or hysterical gigglin' ehhe.



--- In bikers_anon@..., Dave ZX9R <ozzak@y...> wrote:
> there's a black thingy on the left side of my shoei helmet which i
> can turn downwards slightly to stop the visor from shutting
> completely or back up so it shuts fully...
> reckon all helmets have the same wind buffeting issue, boils down to
> the rider's aerodynamics too i'd say.
> alx, maybe you dont go fast enough with the BMW helmet hence the no
> buffeting?  :P
>
>
>
> --- alxxr <alx_yahoo@a...> wrote:
>
> > Helmet noise is a mute (sic) point if you wear earplugs, which I
do
> >
> > for most rides, especially long trips.
> >
> > Can't comment on brands but if you do find a helmet that fits and
> > other features appeal, then noise issue is of secondary
importance
> > with earplugs.
> >
> > Additional significant noise reduction can be achieved by neck
> > warmers and helmet designs that fit snugly around the neck. Even
> > stuff a scarf up around after puttin' on t' helmet.
> >
> >
> > Other aerodynamic issues:-
> >
> > 1) Buffeting... subject to rider height and bike/fairing design.
> > Bit
> > hard to comment on therefore, no issues with BMW helmet though.
> >
> > 2) Visor - can you crack it open a notch without being shut by
wind
> >
> > (BMW helmets are fine, dunno about any others)
> >
> >
> > alx
> >
> >

there's a black thingy on the left side of my shoei helmet which i
can turn downwards slightly to stop the visor from shutting
completely or back up so it shuts fully...
reckon all helmets have the same wind buffeting issue, boils down to
the rider's aerodynamics too i'd say.
alx, maybe you dont go fast enough with the BMW helmet hence the no
buffeting?  :P



--- alxxr <alx_yahoo@...> wrote:

> Helmet noise is a mute (sic) point if you wear earplugs, which I do
>
> for most rides, especially long trips.
>
> Can't comment on brands but if you do find a helmet that fits and
> other features appeal, then noise issue is of secondary importance
> with earplugs.
>
> Additional significant noise reduction can be achieved by neck
> warmers and helmet designs that fit snugly around the neck. Even
> stuff a scarf up around after puttin' on t' helmet.
>
>
> Other aerodynamic issues:-
>
> 1) Buffeting... subject to rider height and bike/fairing design.
> Bit
> hard to comment on therefore, no issues with BMW helmet though.
>
> 2) Visor - can you crack it open a notch without being shut by wind
>
> (BMW helmets are fine, dunno about any others)
>
>
> alx
>
>

Helmet noise is a mute (sic) point if you wear earplugs, which I do
for most rides, especially long trips.

Can't comment on brands but if you do find a helmet that fits and
other features appeal, then noise issue is of secondary importance
with earplugs.

Additional significant noise reduction can be achieved by neck
warmers and helmet designs that fit snugly around the neck. Even
stuff a scarf up around after puttin' on t' helmet.


Other aerodynamic issues:-

1) Buffeting... subject to rider height and bike/fairing design. Bit
hard to comment on therefore, no issues with BMW helmet though.

2) Visor - can you crack it open a notch without being shut by wind
(BMW helmets are fine, dunno about any others)


alx



--- In bikers_anon@..., "peter barnett"
<pbarnett@b...> wrote:
> Hoping to tap into the wealth of experience that contributes to
this forum, I have a question. Does one brand of helmet have a better
reputation for aerodynamics, ie quieter in use, than any of the
others?  I notice that many members own Shoei lids.( For some reason
my snug fitting Arai will have to be replaced.)  Was never happy with
the visor changing mechanism either.. Would appreciate input from the
crew...  Peter B, who will be riding something to PI.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hoping to tap into the wealth of experience that contributes to this forum, I
have a question. Does one brand of helmet have a better reputation for
aerodynamics, ie quieter in use, than any of the others?  I notice that many
members own Shoei lids.( For some reason my snug fitting Arai will have to be
replaced.)  Was never happy with the visor changing mechanism either.. Would
appreciate input from the crew...  Peter B, who will be riding something to PI.


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We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Thunder Rally

Date: Saturday, October 9, 2004
Time: 9:00AM EST (GMT+10:00)

This rally is run by the Ducati Owners Club of New South Wales
and is open to anybody.

Ride some great roads to Nundle (near Tamworth), get to know
some felloe riders around the numerous camp fires.

This is a great camping weekend, with great people, at the end
of some great roads.

Can Bikers Anon get the best club attendance?

This is a great weekend away for more details check out
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