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Hi all,

I have posted a photo of my XP dash With an EL falcon cluster behind
it.

Please let me know what you think.

Cheers

Quazza

#4266

From: "Frank Sinclair" <sinbath@...>
Date: Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:12 am
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] XL Heater

old_55_au

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You need a long socket to get in there, they are available from most
Spare Parts sellers or Repco/Supercheap stores, that length of rod
is the shaft of the motor, good luck with it.
>
> thanks
> the book says theres a grub screw, but there isnt one
> all i need now is a spanner to get in to it as there is a length
> of rod that comes off the nut stopping the use of a socket.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank Sinclair" <sinbath@o...>
> To: <earlyfalcons@...>
> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Early Falcons] XL Heater
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> > Hi Darren,
> > You are correct the nut on the end of the shaft does screw off,
then
> > just tap the shaft off the collar of the fan (use plenty of WD40
or
> > similar - down the shaft)that the nut screws onto. The collar is
a
> > expanding type unit so make sure when putting it back together
that
> > the expanding part is widened therwise the nut will just turn.
> > Unlike the later XM and XP motors that had the grubscrew holding
the
> > fan on this was a real bit of "Ford" ingenuity. Also watch the
two
> > screws that go through the motor and don't attempt to pull the
motor
> > apart, they do not go back together very easily.
> > Frank
> >
> > >   Howdy
> > >   has anybody rebuilt an XL heater ? ive pulled mine apart to
> > replace the seals and want to know how you get the fan off the
> > motor ? so i can replace the rubber seal between the motor and
the
> > heater body, does the nut on the end of the motor shaft (that
holds
> > >   the fan to the shaft) screw off or is in pressed on just to
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#4265

From: "Darren Trew" <dtrew@...>
Date: Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:45 pm
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] XL Heater

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thanks
the book says theres a grub screw, but there isnt one
all i need now is a spanner to get in to it as there is a length
of rod that comes off the nut stopping the use of a socket.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Sinclair" <sinbath@...>
To: <earlyfalcons@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Early Falcons] XL Heater


> Hi Darren,
> You are correct the nut on the end of the shaft does screw off, then
> just tap the shaft off the collar of the fan (use plenty of WD40 or
> similar - down the shaft)that the nut screws onto. The collar is a
> expanding type unit so make sure when putting it back together that
> the expanding part is widened therwise the nut will just turn.
> Unlike the later XM and XP motors that had the grubscrew holding the
> fan on this was a real bit of "Ford" ingenuity. Also watch the two
> screws that go through the motor and don't attempt to pull the motor
> apart, they do not go back together very easily.
> Frank
>
> >   Howdy
> >   has anybody rebuilt an XL heater ? ive pulled mine apart to
> replace the seals and want to know how you get the fan off the
> motor ? so i can replace the rubber seal between the motor and the
> heater body, does the nut on the end of the motor shaft (that holds
> >   the fan to the shaft) screw off or is in pressed on just to make
> it look like it should come off ?
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#4264

From: "Frank Sinclair" <sinbath@...>
Date: Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:33 am
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] XL Heater

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Hi Darren,
You are correct the nut on the end of the shaft does screw off, then
just tap the shaft off the collar of the fan (use plenty of WD40 or
similar - down the shaft)that the nut screws onto. The collar is a
expanding type unit so make sure when putting it back together that
the expanding part is widened therwise the nut will just turn.
Unlike the later XM and XP motors that had the grubscrew holding the
fan on this was a real bit of "Ford" ingenuity. Also watch the two
screws that go through the motor and don't attempt to pull the motor
apart, they do not go back together very easily.
Frank

>   Howdy
>   has anybody rebuilt an XL heater ? ive pulled mine apart to
replace the seals and want to know how you get the fan off the
motor ? so i can replace the rubber seal between the motor and the
heater body, does the nut on the end of the motor shaft (that holds
>   the fan to the shaft) screw off or is in pressed on just to make
it look like it should come off ?
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#4263

From: "john longworth" <honestjohn@...>
Date: Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:34 am
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] XL Heater

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darren, i think there is a grubscrew(allen key) into the fan boss, clamping to
the shaft, i might be wrong its been a long time,mark or measure where it sits
on the shaft so you can get it back in the same spot, honest john
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Darren Trew
   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:01 AM
   Subject: [Early Falcons] XL Heater


   Howdy
   has anybody rebuilt an XL heater ? ive pulled mine apart to replace the seals
and want to know how you get the fan off the motor ? so i can replace the rubber
seal between the motor and the heater body, does the nut on the end of the motor
shaft (that holds
   the fan to the shaft) screw off or is in pressed on just to make it look like
it should come off ?

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#4262

From: "Darren Trew" <dtrew@...>
Date: Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:01 pm
Subject:: XL Heater

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Howdy
has anybody rebuilt an XL heater ? ive pulled mine apart to replace the seals
and want to know how you get the fan off the motor ? so i can replace the rubber
seal between the motor and the heater body, does the nut on the end of the motor
shaft (that holds
the fan to the shaft) screw off or is in pressed on just to make it look like it
should come off ?

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#4261

From: "john longworth" <honestjohn@...>
Date: Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:11 pm
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] 2 XL rear bumper bars

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no difference, honest john
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: BandJ
   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 4:45 PM
   Subject: [Early Falcons] 2 XL rear bumper bars


   Hi Mark and group ,
   Have 2 rear XL bumber bars available whats the differance between a
   sedan and wagon bar?
   i have taken one off a sedan the other is from a wagon  both cars i
   wrecked recently

   Bill 0431 202 884





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#4260

From: "BandJ" <blinky1966@...>
Date: Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:45 am
Subject:: 2 XL rear bumper bars

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Hi Mark and group ,
Have 2 rear XL bumber bars available whats the differance between a
sedan and wagon bar?
i have taken one off a sedan the other is from a wagon  both cars i
wrecked recently

Bill 0431 202 884

#4259

From: "Deon Cameron" <earlyfalcons@...>
Date: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:54 am
Subject:: Re: Needed - Rear wagon bumper

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which model bumper did you decide on using ?, I know I have an XM/XP
one, not sure on the XK/XL. When I got my XM one rechromed, they
straightened & rechromed for under $300, that was only 6 months ago.

Deon


--- In earlyfalcons@..., "john longworth"
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> they are getting hard to find! supply and demand!  keep looking
one will turn up maybe cheaper, but then you need to compare freight
costs, repair costs etc, if you want it now, then that's the price,
i cant find one at the moment myself, honest john
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>   To: earlyfalcons@...
>   Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 9:34 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Early Falcons] Re: Needed - Rear wagon bumper
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>   Honest john should be able to tell you.
>
>   Dale
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Mark
>     To: earlyfalcons@...
>     Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:39 AM
>     Subject: [Early Falcons] Re: Needed - Rear wagon bumper
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>     Dale,
>
>     Thanks for that. As far as I know I am the highest bidder on
the
>     hinges. All I need is the bumper. Earlybird said they had on
but it
>     need full resto and is around $140. Does this sound like a
fair
>     price?
>
>     Quazza
>
>     --- In earlyfalcons@..., <dale@w...> wrote:
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>     > Found some wagon hinges on ebay,
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/FALCON-XK-
>     XP-WAGON-TAILGATE-HINGES-
>     X4_W0QQitemZ4634349641QQcategoryZ102353QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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>     > If that helps
>     >
>     > Dale
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>     >   To: earlyfalcons@...
>     >   Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 9:58 PM
>     >   Subject: [Early Falcons] Needed - Rear wagon bumper
>     >
>     >
>     >   Hi all,
>     >
>     >   Still in need of a rear bumper to go onto my XP ute...Can
anyone
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#4258

From: "john longworth" <honestjohn@...>
Date: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:10 am
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] Re: Needed - Rear wagon bumper

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they are getting hard to find! supply and demand!  keep looking one will turn up
maybe cheaper, but then you need to compare freight costs, repair costs etc, if
you want it now, then that's the price, i cant find one at the moment myself,
honest john
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   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 9:34 AM
   Subject: Re: [Early Falcons] Re: Needed - Rear wagon bumper


   Honest john should be able to tell you.

   Dale
     ----- Original Message -----
     From: Mark
     To: earlyfalcons@...
     Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:39 AM
     Subject: [Early Falcons] Re: Needed - Rear wagon bumper


     Dale,

     Thanks for that. As far as I know I am the highest bidder on the
     hinges. All I need is the bumper. Earlybird said they had on but it
     need full resto and is around $140. Does this sound like a fair
     price?

     Quazza

     --- In earlyfalcons@..., <dale@w...> wrote:
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     > Found some wagon hinges on ebay, http://cgi.ebay.com.au/FALCON-XK-
     XP-WAGON-TAILGATE-HINGES-
     X4_W0QQitemZ4634349641QQcategoryZ102353QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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     > If that helps
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     > Dale
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     >   To: earlyfalcons@...
     >   Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 9:58 PM
     >   Subject: [Early Falcons] Needed - Rear wagon bumper
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     >   Hi all,
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     >   Still in need of a rear bumper to go onto my XP ute...Can anyone
     help?
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#4257

From: <dale@...>
Date: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:34 pm
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] Re: Needed - Rear wagon bumper

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Honest john should be able to tell you.

Dale
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   From: Mark
   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:39 AM
   Subject: [Early Falcons] Re: Needed - Rear wagon bumper


   Dale,

   Thanks for that. As far as I know I am the highest bidder on the
   hinges. All I need is the bumper. Earlybird said they had on but it
   need full resto and is around $140. Does this sound like a fair
   price?

   Quazza

   --- In earlyfalcons@..., <dale@w...> wrote:
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   > Found some wagon hinges on ebay, http://cgi.ebay.com.au/FALCON-XK-
   XP-WAGON-TAILGATE-HINGES-
   X4_W0QQitemZ4634349641QQcategoryZ102353QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
   >
   > If that helps
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   > Dale
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   >   To: earlyfalcons@...
   >   Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 9:58 PM
   >   Subject: [Early Falcons] Needed - Rear wagon bumper
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   >   Hi all,
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   >   Still in need of a rear bumper to go onto my XP ute...Can anyone
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#4256

From: "Mark" <quazza666@...>
Date: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:39 pm
Subject:: Re: Needed - Rear wagon bumper

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Dale,

Thanks for that. As far as I know I am the highest bidder on the
hinges. All I need is the bumper. Earlybird said they had on but it
need full resto and is around $140. Does this sound like a fair
price?

Quazza

--- In earlyfalcons@..., <dale@w...> wrote:
>
> Found some wagon hinges on ebay, http://cgi.ebay.com.au/FALCON-XK-
XP-WAGON-TAILGATE-HINGES-
X4_W0QQitemZ4634349641QQcategoryZ102353QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> If that helps
>
> Dale
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>   To: earlyfalcons@...
>   Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 9:58 PM
>   Subject: [Early Falcons] Needed - Rear wagon bumper
>
>
>   Hi all,
>
>   Still in need of a rear bumper to go onto my XP ute...Can anyone
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>
>   Quazza
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#4255

From: "john longworth" <honestjohn@...>
Date: Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:23 pm
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] 14 in 5 stud wheels

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yes but the cap still sits out on top of the rim instead of over it, looks a bit
tacky. and you better get them on centre! honest john
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: dale@...
   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:12 PM
   Subject: Re: [Early Falcons] 14 in 5 stud wheels


   You can weld some ball bearings onto something later to accomadate them.

   Dale
     ----- Original Message -----
     From: Mark
     To: earlyfalcons@...
     Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:08 PM
     Subject: [Early Falcons] 14 in 5 stud wheels


     Hi again,

     Can anyone tell me if I can get 14 in 5 stud wheels that will
     accomidate the early falcon hub caps(with FORD embossed on them)?

     Mark





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#4254

From: "john longworth" <honestjohn@...>
Date: Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:20 pm
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] Re: 170's torque and extractors

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does it have an external pushrod running crossways on top of the floatbowl at
the front? external small square accelerator pump on side of float bowl? 1 or 2
? honest john
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   Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:56 PM
   Subject: [Early Falcons] Re: 170's torque and extractors


   --- In earlyfalcons@..., "john longworth"
   <honestjohn@o...> wrote:
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   > sounds like it could be carb related, what carb are you running, I'm
   betting stromberg with push on vac advance tube. honest john

   It's a stromberg (I think, no body markings just eh C40F BB code on
   the tag). But the vac advance screw in.





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#4253

From: "john longworth" <honestjohn@...>
Date: Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:17 pm
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] XF stub axle conversion

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you'll need the tapered sleeve adaptors to step the xm-xp tierod ends up to xf.
Xf stubs are the best of the later stubs to use,still not perfect, but better
than others, i can get the adaptor sleeves if you need them,honest john.
0412327489
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Sourbastard
   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 7:17 PM
   Subject: [Early Falcons] XF stub axle conversion


   Ive splashed out the 100 dollars for a set of XF stub axles, calipers
   and rotors, ill be buy some new ball joints tomorrow, what else do I
   need to hook these up? Someone has said I might need different tie rod
   ends? Is that the case?

   Ill be running kings lowered suspension on these, should there be less
   bump steer because of this?


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#4252

From: <dale@...>
Date: Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:12 am
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] 14 in 5 stud wheels

dale_westlake

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You can weld some ball bearings onto something later to accomadate them.

Dale
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Mark
   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:08 PM
   Subject: [Early Falcons] 14 in 5 stud wheels

   Hi again,

   Can anyone tell me if I can get 14 in 5 stud wheels that will
   accomidate the early falcon hub caps(with FORD embossed on them)?

   Mark

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#4251

From: "magpies_magic" <andrew_waite@...>
Date: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:56 am
Subject:: [Early Falcons] Re: 170's torque and extractors

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--- In earlyfalcons@..., "john longworth"
<honestjohn@o...> wrote:
>
> sounds like it could be carb related, what carb are you running, I'm
betting stromberg with push on vac advance tube. honest john

It's a stromberg (I think, no body markings just eh C40F BB code on
the tag). But the vac advance screw in.

#4250

From: Sourbastard <sourbastard@...>
Date: Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:17 am
Subject:: XF stub axle conversion

hagar2010

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Ive splashed out the 100 dollars for a set of XF stub axles, calipers
and rotors, ill be buy some new ball joints tomorrow, what else do I
need to hook these up? Someone has said I might need different tie rod
ends? Is that the case?

Ill be running kings lowered suspension on these, should there be less
bump steer because of this?

#4249

From: <dale@...>
Date: Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:10 am
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] Needed - Rear wagon bumper

dale_westlake

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Found some wagon hinges on ebay,
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/FALCON-XK-XP-WAGON-TAILGATE-HINGES-X4_W0QQitemZ4634349641\
QQcategoryZ102353QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

If that helps

Dale
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Mark
   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 9:58 PM
   Subject: [Early Falcons] Needed - Rear wagon bumper


   Hi all,

   Still in need of a rear bumper to go onto my XP ute...Can anyone help?

   Quazza





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#4248

From: "john longworth" <honestjohn@...>
Date: Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:38 am
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] 14 in 5 stud wheels

j_longworthau

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no 13" only. honest john
   ----- Original Message -----
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   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:08 PM
   Subject: [Early Falcons] 14 in 5 stud wheels


   Hi again,

   Can anyone tell me if I can get 14 in 5 stud wheels that will
   accomidate the early falcon hub caps(with FORD embossed on them)?

   Mark





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#4247

From: "Mark" <quazza666@...>
Date: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:08 am
Subject:: 14 in 5 stud wheels

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Hi again,

Can anyone tell me if I can get 14 in 5 stud wheels that will
accomidate the early falcon hub caps(with FORD embossed on them)?

Mark

#4246

From: "john longworth" <honestjohn@...>
Date: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:40 pm
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] Re: 170's torque and extractors

j_longworthau

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sounds like it could be carb related, what carb are you running, I'm betting
stromberg with push on vac advance tube. honest john
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: magpies_magic
   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 8:06 PM
   Subject: [Early Falcons] Re: 170's torque and extractors


   Thanks again John, just a few questions.
   1. As it seems there is a problem with the advance vacuum isn't it
   safer to set the initial timing without the vacuum as the manual
   suggests?

   2. I haven't got a tacho so I can't be sure, but the engine does
   seem to be idling reasonably low. Certainly looks like I'm getting
   WAY too much advance at low revs. Is a problem with the primary
   spring the only possible cause here? Is a faulty spark valve in the
   carb also a candidate?


   --- In earlyfalcons@..., "john longworth"
   <honestjohn@o...> wrote:
   >
   > if the idle speed is right, the advance hasn't come in yet, you
   don't need to disconnect it , 500rpm(in drive on auto), ignition
   timing 4 degrees btdc, man 170, 6 degrees for commercial
   vehicle,10degrees for 170 auto, 12 degrees for 200 auto, points
   gap .024-.026" dwell angle 37-42 degrees, most mechanics set them at
   the later models points gap .015 (every ford since the xp had this)
   and usually 6 degrees timing, they don't look at the specs first,
   check yours in this order, points gap then start engine, warm it up
   so that idle speed stabilizes, then adjust idle speed, then timing,
   (you may need to play with idle speed to keep it going) make sure
   choke is completely off at carby,timing should stay at idle
   setting,until you rev the engine, flashes up towards 30 degrees then
   return to initial setting once manifold vacuum stabilizes, if it
   doesn't rise when revved , check vac pipe connections(no leaks) and
   vac advance diaphragm on dizzy (no air leaks), hope this helps, also
   the overtemp situation, do you have a thermostat in it, are your
   radiator hoses in good cond? the lower hose can suck flat at speed
   restricting flow, (later models had a spring inside to stop this)
   honest john
   >   ----- Original Message -----
   >   From: magpies_magic
   >   To: earlyfalcons@...
   >   Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:07 PM
   >   Subject: [Early Falcons] Re: 170's torque and extractors
   >
   >
   >   --- In earlyfalcons@..., remember_who
   <no_reply@y...>
   >   wrote:
   >
   >   > Glad to hear it's coming good.  Backlash (I think) has a great
   story
   >   > about a motor that was an overheating, hard-starting, gutless
   pig
   >   for
   >   > the first 1500 miles or so, then turned into a real doozy once
   >   broken
   >   > in.
   >
   >   I found the major reason why mine was an overheating, hard-
   starting,
   >   gutless pig. It looks like the fitters didn't take off the
   vacuum to
   >   the dizzy when they timed it in. That had it more retarded than
   >   (insert your own non-politically correct line here). Coulda
   pushed it
   >   up hills faster and it was boiling it's head off any time you
   pushed
   >   it over 40mph.
   >
   >   I put the light on it with the vacuum off and then Wow! Pulls
   nice and
   >   hard all the way out to 70mph which is about the max I want to
   take it
   >   to. In fact it's a struggle to keep it down to 40mph in 60k
   zones. It
   >   just wants to cruise at 50+.
   >
   >   Still not totally sure about the advance. Hopefully someone else
   with
   >   a bit more experience can set me right here. When I put it back
   on it
   >   advances the engine way off the dial just at idle, and when I
   rev it
   >   it advances a bit more, but not much. Could it simply be idling
   a bit
   >   too fast to generate the excessive initial advance (looks like
   well
   >   over 20 degrees) or is there perhaps something wrong at the
   carby that
   >   has the advance out of kilter? As I said now it pulls really
   hard
   >   (compared to what I'm used to anyway) but it is still
   overheating a
   >   bit at 70mph which is making me think it might be getting a
   little
   >   retarded at this point. So how much should the advance be over
   the non-
   >   vacuum setting? and how far should that further advance when you
   rev
   >   it?
   >
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#4245

From: "Darren Trew" <dtrew@...>
Date: Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:48 am
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] Re: 170's torque and extractors

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slot car nights are a blast for "big" and little kids
----- Original Message -----
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To: <earlyfalcons@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 7:33 PM
Subject: [Early Falcons] Re: 170's torque and extractors


> --- In earlyfalcons@..., "Darren Trew" <dtrew@o...>
> wrote:
> >
> > how can you missplace something with such a fantastic cover????
> > Ray Wallace missed the nostalgia drags and he suggested that we go
> to it
> > !!!!
> > must get everyone with an email address and put them in a reminder
> list
>
> Got the latest edition today. Nice photo Dr Falconstein. The whole
> clan are very excited about the Bargo run and even more so about the
> slot car night at Ingleburn! Hope we get a good roll up for that.
> Sounds like a blast.
>
> The email reminders would be real good. You can also put dates in the
> calendar of this list like the vic's do to send reminders before an
> event. Both would be good ways of keeping busy folks minds on the
> important things in life.
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#4244

From: "Mark" <quazza666@...>
Date: Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:58 am
Subject:: Needed - Rear wagon bumper

quazza666

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Hi all,

Still in need of a rear bumper to go onto my XP ute...Can anyone help?

Quazza

#4243

From: "magpies_magic" <andrew_waite@...>
Date: Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:06 am
Subject:: Re: 170's torque and extractors

magpies_magic

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Thanks again John, just a few questions.
1. As it seems there is a problem with the advance vacuum isn't it
safer to set the initial timing without the vacuum as the manual
suggests?

2. I haven't got a tacho so I can't be sure, but the engine does
seem to be idling reasonably low. Certainly looks like I'm getting
WAY too much advance at low revs. Is a problem with the primary
spring the only possible cause here? Is a faulty spark valve in the
carb also a candidate?


--- In earlyfalcons@..., "john longworth"
<honestjohn@o...> wrote:
>
> if the idle speed is right, the advance hasn't come in yet, you
don't need to disconnect it , 500rpm(in drive on auto), ignition
timing 4 degrees btdc, man 170, 6 degrees for commercial
vehicle,10degrees for 170 auto, 12 degrees for 200 auto, points
gap .024-.026" dwell angle 37-42 degrees, most mechanics set them at
the later models points gap .015 (every ford since the xp had this)
and usually 6 degrees timing, they don't look at the specs first,
check yours in this order, points gap then start engine, warm it up
so that idle speed stabilizes, then adjust idle speed, then timing,
(you may need to play with idle speed to keep it going) make sure
choke is completely off at carby,timing should stay at idle
setting,until you rev the engine, flashes up towards 30 degrees then
return to initial setting once manifold vacuum stabilizes, if it
doesn't rise when revved , check vac pipe connections(no leaks) and
vac advance diaphragm on dizzy (no air leaks), hope this helps, also
the overtemp situation, do you have a thermostat in it, are your
radiator hoses in good cond? the lower hose can suck flat at speed
restricting flow, (later models had a spring inside to stop this)
honest john
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: magpies_magic
>   To: earlyfalcons@...
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:07 PM
>   Subject: [Early Falcons] Re: 170's torque and extractors
>
>
>   --- In earlyfalcons@..., remember_who
<no_reply@y...>
>   wrote:
>
>   > Glad to hear it's coming good.  Backlash (I think) has a great
story
>   > about a motor that was an overheating, hard-starting, gutless
pig
>   for
>   > the first 1500 miles or so, then turned into a real doozy once
>   broken
>   > in.
>
>   I found the major reason why mine was an overheating, hard-
starting,
>   gutless pig. It looks like the fitters didn't take off the
vacuum to
>   the dizzy when they timed it in. That had it more retarded than
>   (insert your own non-politically correct line here). Coulda
pushed it
>   up hills faster and it was boiling it's head off any time you
pushed
>   it over 40mph.
>
>   I put the light on it with the vacuum off and then Wow! Pulls
nice and
>   hard all the way out to 70mph which is about the max I want to
take it
>   to. In fact it's a struggle to keep it down to 40mph in 60k
zones. It
>   just wants to cruise at 50+.
>
>   Still not totally sure about the advance. Hopefully someone else
with
>   a bit more experience can set me right here. When I put it back
on it
>   advances the engine way off the dial just at idle, and when I
rev it
>   it advances a bit more, but not much. Could it simply be idling
a bit
>   too fast to generate the excessive initial advance (looks like
well
>   over 20 degrees) or is there perhaps something wrong at the
carby that
>   has the advance out of kilter? As I said now it pulls really
hard
>   (compared to what I'm used to anyway) but it is still
overheating a
>   bit at 70mph which is making me think it might be getting a
little
>   retarded at this point. So how much should the advance be over
the non-
>   vacuum setting? and how far should that further advance when you
rev
>   it?
>
>
>
>
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#4242

From: "magpies_magic" <andrew_waite@...>
Date: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:33 am
Subject:: [Early Falcons] Re: 170's torque and extractors

magpies_magic

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--- In earlyfalcons@..., "Darren Trew" <dtrew@o...>
wrote:
>
> how can you missplace something with such a fantastic cover????
> Ray Wallace missed the nostalgia drags and he suggested that we go
to it
> !!!!
> must get everyone with an email address and put them in a reminder
list

Got the latest edition today. Nice photo Dr Falconstein. The whole
clan are very excited about the Bargo run and even more so about the
slot car night at Ingleburn! Hope we get a good roll up for that.
Sounds like a blast.

The email reminders would be real good. You can also put dates in the
calendar of this list like the vic's do to send reminders before an
event. Both would be good ways of keeping busy folks minds on the
important things in life.

#4241

From: "john longworth" <honestjohn@...>
Date: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:56 am
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] Nostalgia Drags

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Darren,its not about speed ,its dial up racing, your racing yourself, a 2 speed
would be ideal, once you've got your baseline time, there is nothing you can do
to make it any quicker! its just consistency from there, the final of the 6 cyl
/sidevalve class at the first Sydney races last year had the fastest car and the
slowest car in it,the slow one only narrowly missed out, a couple of hundredths.
honest john
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Darren Trew
   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:03 AM
   Subject: Re: [Early Falcons] Nostalgia Drags


   ha in my 2 speed gidy up, wouldnt pull the foreskin of an ant, but after
   seeing some of those FJ's go backwards id give it a go. If i can get the
   keys off the old man id take the ute.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "john longworth" <honestjohn@...>
   To: <earlyfalcons@...>
   Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 6:19 PM
   Subject: Re: [Early Falcons] Nostalgia Drags


   > you had to pre enter, i missed the cut off, there was a load of parts in
   the back, came direct from Morisset swap meet too, next time!  didn't see
   you guys on the track either . honest john
   >   ----- Original Message -----
   >   From: Darren Trew
   >   To: earlyfalcons@...
   >   Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:58 AM
   >   Subject: Re: [Early Falcons] Nostalgia Drags
   >
   >
   >   yes that is was, you should of taken your car for a spin on the track
   >   ----- Original Message -----
   >   From: "john longworth" <honestjohn@...>
   >   To: <earlyfalcons@...>
   >   Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:57 PM
   >   Subject: Re: [Early Falcons] Nostalgia Drags
   >
   >
   >   > yes, top day! honest john
   >   >   ----- Original Message -----
   >   >   From: Darren Trew
   >   >   To: earlyfalcons@...
   >   >   Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 4:50 AM
   >   >   Subject: [Early Falcons] Nostalgia Drags
   >   >
   >   >
   >   >   18 Falcons on show and racing at the Nostalgia drags today at
   Western
   >   Sydney Dragway, 2 belonging to EFCC of NSW, a bit dissapointed not to
   see
   >   more club cars but great to see so many Falcons in the paddock some
   racing
   >   some just for show.
   >   >   John Longworth was that your wagon in the car park near the fence?
   >   >
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#4240

From: "john longworth" <honestjohn@...>
Date: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:52 am
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] Re: 8 and 9 inch diffs

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generally this 4 stud pattern is a different pcd to ours adam, beware, there is
room to redrill though, honest john
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: remember_who
   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 8:14 AM
   Subject: [Early Falcons] Re: 8 and 9 inch diffs

   Mark,

   Google for the "kevinstang" website.  It has good pictures of eights,
   nines and commentary on the differences over years of production.  Most
   of the nine-inches that came with Oz-delivery cars were better models
   (LSDs and such) because the diff in itself was an upgrade.

   Frustratingly, my mate has just located another narrow 4-stud 8" at
   USD$60 but it's near him (Maryland) and getting it here isn't viable on
   its own...

   Cheers, Adam.

   A totally O/T note for the greybeards:  The '56 Ampol trial is being
   presently re-run, organised by the Peugeot Car Club.  There are plenty
   of non '56 vehicles, sadly no Fords but if it passes near you, still
   worth checking out, especially if there's a display or motorsport
   section on.  Brand aside, you've got to respect a bunch of people
   giving their (often pristine) cars a hiding for a month.

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#4239

From: remember_who
Date: Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:14 pm
Subject:: Re: 8 and 9 inch diffs

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Mark,

Google for the "kevinstang" website.  It has good pictures of eights,
nines and commentary on the differences over years of production.  Most
of the nine-inches that came with Oz-delivery cars were better models
(LSDs and such) because the diff in itself was an upgrade.

Frustratingly, my mate has just located another narrow 4-stud 8" at
USD$60 but it's near him (Maryland) and getting it here isn't viable on
its own...

Cheers, Adam.

A totally O/T note for the greybeards:  The '56 Ampol trial is being
presently re-run, organised by the Peugeot Car Club.  There are plenty
of non '56 vehicles, sadly no Fords but if it passes near you, still
worth checking out, especially if there's a display or motorsport
section on.  Brand aside, you've got to respect a bunch of people
giving their (often pristine) cars a hiding for a month.

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From: "Darren Trew" <dtrew@...>
Date: Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:03 pm
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] Nostalgia Drags

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