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#4332 From: "Darren Trew" <dtrew@...>
Date: Thu Jun 1, 2006 8:36 am
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] Early falcon virgin ...
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theres an XL Wagon for sale through our club magazine, its complete, just
needs a paint job, and registering, its in sydney
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Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:26 AM
Subject: [Early Falcons] Early falcon virgin ...


> Hi guys, I'm hoping to take the plunge soon and go for an early falcon
> at last.
> After trawling old messages I have some questions re my intended
> purchase, if there's a better spot (FAQs or something) please let me know.
> I'm interested in an XL wagon. Research shows some problems with
> engines and suspension.
> 1. There is a "narrow" engine and a "wide" engine, is that right? How
> do you tell the difference (without seeing one or the other)
> 2. The head has the exhaust/inlet manifolds cast-in (great idea Ford).
> Is it a straight swap to add a later head (170 or 200) and bolt-on
> manifolds?
> 3. The suspension is "weak". Is it a straight swap to add a later
> suspension - in particular an XR disc setup.
>
> I love the style of the XK to XP vehicles, but I'm having troubel
> finding them - Just World Cars, drive, carsguide, carsales, trading
> post. Anywhere else I should try?
>
> Failing the XL I've got an XR wagon "on standby". Now to convince SWMBO.
>
> Thanks for any help
> Jeff
> Bathurst NSW
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#4331 From: <dale@...>
Date: Thu Jun 1, 2006 2:11 am
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] Early falcon virgin ...
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There is a nice xp sedan on ebay at the moment, had the brakes suspention and
rubbers done and it's only at a grand (At present).
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1966-XP-FALCON-PROJECT_W0QQitemZ4644926599QQcategoryZ1023\
53QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

And a sad coupe if you want to start from scrtch, for $2000.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/XP-COUPE-IN-SHED-UNFINISHED-PROJECT-NTHN-N-S-W_W0QQitemZ4\
645533345QQcategoryZ102353QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Dale
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   From: lr150west
   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:26 AM
   Subject: [Early Falcons] Early falcon virgin ...


   Hi guys, I'm hoping to take the plunge soon and go for an early falcon
   at last.
   After trawling old messages I have some questions re my intended
   purchase, if there's a better spot (FAQs or something) please let me know.
   I'm interested in an XL wagon. Research shows some problems with
   engines and suspension.
   1. There is a "narrow" engine and a "wide" engine, is that right? How
   do you tell the difference (without seeing one or the other)
   2. The head has the exhaust/inlet manifolds cast-in (great idea Ford).
   Is it a straight swap to add a later head (170 or 200) and bolt-on
   manifolds?
   3. The suspension is "weak". Is it a straight swap to add a later
   suspension - in particular an XR disc setup.

   I love the style of the XK to XP vehicles, but I'm having troubel
   finding them - Just World Cars, drive, carsguide, carsales, trading
   post. Anywhere else I should try?

   Failing the XL I've got an XR wagon "on standby". Now to convince SWMBO.

   Thanks for any help
   Jeff
   Bathurst NSW






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#4330 From: Sourbastard <sourbastard@...>
Date: Thu Jun 1, 2006 12:54 am
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] Early falcon virgin ...
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ebay often has a few XP's for sale on it. They arent usually show
cars, but if you are looking to restore, its a start.

If you intend on fitting a V8, consider heavily buying a car that
comes standard with an 8, XR/ZA onwards, as a v8 conversion isnt a
small amount of work.

cheers
sourbastard

On 5/31/06, lr150west <revcop@...> wrote:
> Hi guys, I'm hoping to take the plunge soon and go for an early falcon
> at last.
> After trawling old messages I have some questions re my intended
> purchase, if there's a better spot (FAQs or something) please let me know.
> I'm interested in an XL wagon. Research shows some problems with
> engines and suspension.
> 1. There is a "narrow" engine and a "wide" engine, is that right? How
> do you tell the difference (without seeing one or the other)
> 2. The head has the exhaust/inlet manifolds cast-in (great idea Ford).
> Is it a straight swap to add a later head (170 or 200) and bolt-on
> manifolds?
> 3. The suspension is "weak". Is it a straight swap to add a later
> suspension - in particular an XR disc setup.
>
> I love the style of the XK to XP vehicles, but I'm having troubel
> finding them - Just World Cars, drive, carsguide, carsales, trading
> post. Anywhere else I should try?
>
> Failing the XL I've got an XR wagon "on standby". Now to convince SWMBO.
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> Thanks for any help
> Jeff
> Bathurst NSW
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#4329 From: bevan bradley <falconclubnsw@...>
Date: Wed May 31, 2006 9:11 pm
Subject:: EFCC of NSW Club Jackets for sale
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Its starting to get cold on club runs and I know what
thats like, I have just the thing to keep you warm. 2
EFCC of NSW club jackets, they are hardly warn and are
"BIG" extra large sizes. I am asking $50 each for
them, which is well below what I paid for them. Hit me
up if interested 0416006778.

Bevan

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#4328 From: "lr150west" <revcop@...>
Date: Wed May 31, 2006 2:26 pm
Subject:: Early falcon virgin ...
lr150west
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Hi guys, I'm hoping to take the plunge soon and go for an early falcon
at last.
After trawling old messages I have some questions re my intended
purchase, if there's a better spot (FAQs or something) please let me know.
I'm interested in an XL wagon. Research shows some problems with
engines and suspension.
1. There is a "narrow" engine and a "wide" engine, is that right? How
do you tell the difference (without seeing one or the other)
2. The head has the exhaust/inlet manifolds cast-in (great idea Ford).
Is it a straight swap to add a later head (170 or 200) and bolt-on
manifolds?
3. The suspension is "weak". Is it a straight swap to add a later
suspension - in particular an XR disc setup.

I love the style of the XK to XP vehicles, but I'm having troubel
finding them - Just World Cars, drive, carsguide, carsales, trading
post. Anywhere else I should try?

Failing the XL I've got an XR wagon "on standby". Now to convince SWMBO.

Thanks for any help
Jeff
Bathurst NSW

#4327 From: "butch10_6" <tonsteph@...>
Date: Wed May 31, 2006 9:21 am
Subject:: XP Coupe for sale $16000 o.n.o
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Hi all i have a xp coupe for sale it runs a very mild 302 windsor in
it (runs on LPG) C4 auto, with a mustang diff-drum brake(not 9 inch)
with disk brake from end(xy).
I have had the interior retrimed about 5 months ago.
The car is not perfect it has small amounts of rust in the passanger
door(front bottom corner)and it looks like the usual rust worm is at
its rear (front) quarters but its not bubbling yet and could be good
for
a while...Its and older build, the wheels,number plate and sterio
are NOT for sale with the car....
If anyone is interseted i live in Bribane and if they wish to get
any more info call me on 0413015193 and ask for Butch.
The car is advertised elswhere...asking $16000 ono.
Thanks Butch

#4326 From: "magpies_magic" <andrew_waite@...>
Date: Sat May 27, 2006 12:08 pm
Subject:: Re: V6 into XK-XP
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--- In earlyfalcons@..., remember_who <no_reply@y...>
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  why not just use an eight?

Ha - I just like 6's, but there is something about a V, so V6 sounds
like a good compromise. I'm certainly not asking for my car, purely
information. 221 would certainly be a simpler task for about the same
grunt, but at $150 including a couple of trannies someone might think
it worth the effort.

#4325 From: remember_who
Date: Sat May 27, 2006 10:59 am
Subject:: Re: V6 into XK-XP
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I don't know if it's the same basic unit, but one fellow did toy with
fitting a late '90s Lincoln V6 into a '66 Mustang and gave up.  He felt
it required a subframe graft (as many Americans do with the "Mustang
II" style subframes into early Falcons and Mustangs) and with this much
effort - why not just use an eight?

Got a spare 308 and Traumatic here, if anyone wants to really upset the
EFCC...

Cheers, Adam.

#4324 From: "Darren Trew" <dtrew@...>
Date: Sat May 27, 2006 6:51 am
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] {Disarmed} How would this sucker go in an early Falcon?
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looks ok wonder if there hard to come by
at least its a ford v6 and not one of those other brands.
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Subject: [Early Falcons] {Disarmed} How would this sucker go in an early
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> Andrew & Denise Waite sent you this eBay item: FORD V6 engine1984 Cougar/
Mustang . Escort, Capri, Rod (#4643442335)
> 3.8 V6 + C4?
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#4323 From: <andrew_waite@...>
Date: Sat May 27, 2006 6:24 am
Subject:: {Disarmed} How would this sucker go in an early Falcon?
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Andrew & Denise Waite sent you this eBay item: FORD V6 engine1984 Cougar/
Mustang . Escort, Capri, Rod (#4643442335)
3.8 V6 + C4?

Any reasons why this wouldn't make a good powerplant for an early Falcon?


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This Engine was used in 1984 Ford Cougars and Mustangs Would go well in a small
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#4322 From: "Mark" <quazza666@...>
Date: Sat May 27, 2006 12:15 am
Subject:: Re: upper ball joints for xf stub axle
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Hi,

The balll joints will fit the XF stubs...I have had no problems with
the yet and I am running the same set up

Cheers

Quazza


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> Can anyone tell me if the early four bolt upper ball joints(XM-XA),
> will fit XF stubs? Otherwise I'll have to drill the upper suspension
> to take the 3 bolt XF upper ball joints.
>

#4321 From: "andrewskjonnemand" <andrewskjonnemand@...>
Date: Fri May 26, 2006 10:17 pm
Subject:: upper ball joints for xf stub axle
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Can anyone tell me if the early four bolt upper ball joints(XM-XA),
will fit XF stubs? Otherwise I'll have to drill the upper suspension
to take the 3 bolt XF upper ball joints.

#4320 From: dm_460
Date: Fri May 26, 2006 2:39 am
Subject:: [Early Falcons] Re: electronic ignition for early 6 cyl
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Thanks for the replies guys. That gives me an excellent starting point.
I have also heard bad things about the Pertronix units so was going to
use it as a last resort.

John, I'm interested in knowing more about putting the crossflow dizzy
in. What mods need to be done ??

Thanks alot.

--- In earlyfalcons@..., "john longworth"
<honestjohn@o...> wrote:
>
> bosch,once made a direct screw in conversion(replaced points and
condenser) for 250 points dizzies, back when they were all over the
place, fitted the other brand too(gmh), they used the bosch too. i
don't have the part number, but they were reliable. Swap meet or old
shelf stock, start hunting anyone got an old bosch catalogue?. also a
crossflow dizzy (electronic1987 unleaded hei cap) will fit with minor
adaption to the clamping plate, cheap easy to get, reliable, can have
the advance curve altered,parts available everywhere. honest john
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>   To: earlyfalcons@...
>   Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:37 PM
>   Subject: [Early Falcons] Re: electronic ignition for early 6 cyl
>
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>   Wouldn't waste my time with that Pertronix.  I've heard too many well-
>   documented tales of them not working properly, or lasting long.
>   That's been countered by only about three people I've known to have
>   them work flawlessly on a six.
>
>   http://www.cquesttechnologies.com/fspp/products.asp?cat=73 is one
>   electronic dizzy option - down the bottom, prices in US Dollars.
>
>   Then there is the American Duraspark (known commonly as "DS-II") you
>   would need to privately source.  It has the advantage of being easy
>   to re-curve with an aftermarket spring and weight kit.
>
>   Also there is the option of crossbreeding an electronic dizzy with
>   the larger shaft dizzy out your motor.  This is about $300 (exchange
>   price) with new bushes and a re-curve, either from Performance
>   Ignition or Ignition Torque, both in Melbourne.
>
>   Final one to ponder is using points to trigger an aftermarket module -
>   you can do this with MSD, I think.  Personally have been considering
>   points trigger for Bosch module - anyone tried that?  John?
>
>   Hope this is a start (pun noted0)!
>
>   Regards, Adam.
>
>   BTW for the curious: CHI's new 250-2V alloy head is at the final
>   stages of R&D; prototypes have been cast already. Exhaust ports are
>   raised for better short side radius but still fit regular
>   extractors.

#4319 From: "john longworth" <honestjohn@...>
Date: Thu May 25, 2006 1:53 pm
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] Re: electronic ignition for early 6 cyl
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bosch,once made a direct screw in conversion(replaced points and condenser) for
250 points dizzies, back when they were all over the place, fitted the other
brand too(gmh), they used the bosch too. i don't have the part number, but they
were reliable. Swap meet or old shelf stock, start hunting anyone got an old
bosch catalogue?. also a crossflow dizzy (electronic1987 unleaded hei cap) will
fit with minor adaption to the clamping plate, cheap easy to get, reliable, can
have the advance curve altered,parts available everywhere. honest john
   ----- Original Message -----
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   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:37 PM
   Subject: [Early Falcons] Re: electronic ignition for early 6 cyl


   Wouldn't waste my time with that Pertronix.  I've heard too many well-
   documented tales of them not working properly, or lasting long.
   That's been countered by only about three people I've known to have
   them work flawlessly on a six.

   http://www.cquesttechnologies.com/fspp/products.asp?cat=73 is one
   electronic dizzy option - down the bottom, prices in US Dollars.

   Then there is the American Duraspark (known commonly as "DS-II") you
   would need to privately source.  It has the advantage of being easy
   to re-curve with an aftermarket spring and weight kit.

   Also there is the option of crossbreeding an electronic dizzy with
   the larger shaft dizzy out your motor.  This is about $300 (exchange
   price) with new bushes and a re-curve, either from Performance
   Ignition or Ignition Torque, both in Melbourne.

   Final one to ponder is using points to trigger an aftermarket module -
   you can do this with MSD, I think.  Personally have been considering
   points trigger for Bosch module - anyone tried that?  John?

   Hope this is a start (pun noted0)!

   Regards, Adam.

   BTW for the curious: CHI's new 250-2V alloy head is at the final
   stages of R&D; prototypes have been cast already. Exhaust ports are
   raised for better short side radius but still fit regular
   extractors.






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#4318 From: remember_who
Date: Thu May 25, 2006 10:37 am
Subject:: Re: electronic ignition for early 6 cyl
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Wouldn't waste my time with that Pertronix.  I've heard too many well-
documented tales of them not working properly, or lasting long.
That's been countered by only about three people I've known to have
them work flawlessly on a six.

http://www.cquesttechnologies.com/fspp/products.asp?cat=73 is one
electronic dizzy option - down the bottom, prices in US Dollars.

Then there is the American Duraspark (known commonly as "DS-II") you
would need to privately source.  It has the advantage of being easy
to re-curve with an aftermarket spring and weight kit.

Also there is the option of crossbreeding an electronic dizzy with
the larger shaft dizzy out your motor.  This is about $300 (exchange
price) with new bushes and a re-curve, either from Performance
Ignition or Ignition Torque, both in Melbourne.

Final one to ponder is using points to trigger an aftermarket module -
  you can do this with MSD, I think.  Personally have been considering
points trigger for Bosch module - anyone tried that?  John?

Hope this is a start (pun noted0)!

Regards, Adam.

BTW for the curious: CHI's new 250-2V alloy head is at the final
stages of R&D; prototypes have been cast already. Exhaust ports are
raised for better short side radius but still fit regular
extractors.

#4317 From: dm_460
Date: Wed May 24, 2006 9:48 am
Subject:: electronic ignition for early 6 cyl
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Hi guys,

I'm trying to get an electronic dizzy for my XP.
It's got an early 250 in it but they never came with electronic dizzys
so I guess a conversion such as the Pertronix (www.pertronix.com) is
my only option.

Anybody got any thoughts on the subject ??

#4316 From: "john longworth" <honestjohn@...>
Date: Tue May 23, 2006 11:50 am
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] Sun Visor
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Tony ,that's almost right, they were available from factory& aftermarket that
style too, yours fits xk-l-m. there is a special for the xp, it has a fold in
the centre that replicates the front of the bonnet too, honest john
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   Subject: [Early Falcons] Sun Visor


   I was looking through my spare bits on the weekend to decide if I
   wanted to fit a sun visor over the windscreen of the ute and found one
   that has a replication of the bonnet hump pressed into it..I havent
   run across this before...anyone know the history attached to this
   style of visor?......I guess it is a factory option...Tony





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#4315 From: "xk_ute" <xk_ute@...>
Date: Mon May 22, 2006 7:48 pm
Subject:: Sun Visor
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I was looking through my spare bits on the weekend to decide if I
wanted to fit a sun visor over the windscreen of the ute and found one
that has a replication of the bonnet hump pressed into it..I havent
run across this before...anyone know the history attached to this
style of visor?......I guess it is a factory option...Tony

#4314 From: "Darren Trew" <dtrew@...>
Date: Sat May 20, 2006 4:12 am
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] Tomorrow's Club Run (NSW)
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this venue is open for early falcon owners only there will be no general
public
so come along even if your not in the club so far we have 10 plus cars
coming.
get that falcon outa the shed !!!!
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Subject: [Early Falcons] Tomorrow's Club Run (NSW)


> Anyone else coming on the club run to Bargo tomorrow (21st)? Looking
> forward to it as I haven't been able to get the old girl out with the
> club since Chrissy (Darren  consider this my official notification
> that I'm coming ;). If you're not a member come along and join on the
> day, if your ride ain't roadworthy bring along your daily and admire
> the other members cars. Meet at Narellan Maccas (in the Narellan Town
> Centre on Camden Valley Way) 9:00 for a 9:30 departure. Oh and bring
> $8 for entry to Pamak Hobbies.
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#4313 From: "magpies_magic" <andrew_waite@...>
Date: Sat May 20, 2006 2:42 am
Subject:: Tomorrow's Club Run (NSW)
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Anyone else coming on the club run to Bargo tomorrow (21st)? Looking
forward to it as I haven't been able to get the old girl out with the
club since Chrissy (Darren  consider this my official notification
that I'm coming ;). If you're not a member come along and join on the
day, if your ride ain't roadworthy bring along your daily and admire
the other members cars. Meet at Narellan Maccas (in the Narellan Town
Centre on Camden Valley Way) 9:00 for a 9:30 departure. Oh and bring
$8 for entry to Pamak Hobbies.

#4312 From: remember_who
Date: Fri May 19, 2006 10:55 am
Subject:: Re: 221 w/XA head - Installation into XM Coupe
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John,

No reliably measured differences between ARC9... heads and 72DA...
units; never more than 60CC chambers new, never less than 58 new.  A
lot now clock in at 56-58CC.  XT has same chamber volumes but the older
design.

Compression comes up with decking, head shaving, overbores and less
piston dish.  Compression goes down with generic rebuild pistons
(further down in bore), valves being let in too far and stretched
timing chains.

Now there are proposals afoot to remove some additives that prolong
engine life from motor oils, we've got another thing to fret about
besides VSR.  You'd think some people would rather we all had new cars,
and were in hock to the banks for them...

Regards, Adam.

#4311 From: "john longworth" <honestjohn@...>
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 1:34 pm
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] xw discs
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Craig read old posts on this subject, its been done to death, there are pro's
and cons to all of  the conversions, you keep all of the xm suspension its only
a stub axle change, you need tapered sleeves to adapt the tie rod ends. honest
john
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   From: mofoco64
   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 8:41 PM
   Subject: [Early Falcons] xw discs


   hi there,
   Iv'e been trawling through past posts re xw disc brake conversions and have
learnt a bit. I
   have an 302 windsor xw wagon i have pulled the entire running gear out of to
put in my xm
   but i want to know what i need to keep re brakes..... what i use from the old
xm upper and
   low control arms bla bla bla....
   Do i need new stub axles from castlemaine rod shop? what other ways can it be
done?

   Thanks for any advice....

   Craig





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#4310 From: "john longworth" <honestjohn@...>
Date: Thu May 18, 2006 1:29 pm
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] need a lower control arm
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Craig, ive got one in Newcastle, can post, or you pick up over weekend, honest
john
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   Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:16 PM
   Subject: [Early Falcons] need a lower control arm


   anyone know where to get em in sydney? pullled all my brakes and suspension to
bits today,
   one of the control arms bent like a banana,,,,,wonder it ever drove at all

   craig






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#4309 From: "mofoco64" <mofoco64@...>
Date: Thu May 18, 2006 1:16 pm
Subject:: need a lower control arm
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anyone know where to get em in sydney? pullled all my brakes and suspension to
bits today,
one of the control arms bent like a banana,,,,,wonder it ever drove at all

craig

#4308 From: "john longworth" <honestjohn@...>
Date: Thu May 18, 2006 12:15 pm
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] 221 Installation into XM Coupe
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I'm sure Adam will confirm or correct me here i know he has the correct figures,
the 250 head i think will very slightly lower the compression ratio. it would
probably not be enough to worry you, or to justify a head swap, honest john
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Dale
   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:00 PM
   Subject: RE: [Early Falcons] 221 Installation into XM Coupe


   Thanks John

   May I ask...would the 250 head improve on the original?

   Rgds

   Dale W

   -----Original Message-----
   From: earlyfalcons@...
   [mailto:earlyfalcons@...] On Behalf Of john longworth
   Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:26 PM
   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Subject: Re: [Early Falcons] 221 Installation into XM Coupe

   the head is a 250 head 72da6049 etc....
   the block was no 157 cast on the 25/8/69
   arc9de 6015 etc
   gv 7680.... engine no.
   should all go ok. danny and mark at early bird know what there doing, honest
   john
     ----- Original Message -----
     From: Dale
     To: earlyfalcons@...
     Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:50 PM
     Subject: RE: [Early Falcons] 221 Installation into XM Coupe


     I forgot to mention...these are the numbers on the 221 engine I have...

     Head: 723A ?049A 29A4 2

     Block: 157, 25H9

     On block under coil: DE 6C15, GV7680

     I might have missed a letter or two under the coil.

     Can anyone interpret these for me?

     Thanks

     Dale W


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     From: earlyfalcons@...
     [mailto:earlyfalcons@...] On Behalf Of Dale
     Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:15 PM
     To: earlyfalcons@...
     Subject: [Early Falcons] 221 Installation into XM Coupe

     Lads,

     finally decided to do the 221 conversion and have booked the old boy
     into Early Bird.  Going to cost me about $1k including new 3 core
     radiator and service, tune and rewire from generator to alternator.

     Just thought I'd let you know that I have a letter from Vicroads re
     this conversion which states "...it is acceptable to install 221 ford
     motor from XW into your XM.  Although the engine has a larger capacity
     it is accepted because the replacement has similar emotion (I don't
     know what that means) and similar capacity."

     Hope this clears up the situation for Victorians contemplating same
     conversion.

     PS- my 221 has been sitting for about 6 months.  Any advice or points
     I need to be aware of with this conversion?  Understand it's a pretty
     straight forward swap, and am confident Early Bird will do a good job,
     but any comments from the group welcome.






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#4307 From: "Dale" <thewothers@...>
Date: Thu May 18, 2006 12:00 pm
Subject:: RE: [Early Falcons] 221 Installation into XM Coupe
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Thanks John

May I ask...would the 250 head improve on the original?

Rgds

Dale W

-----Original Message-----
From: earlyfalcons@...
[mailto:earlyfalcons@...] On Behalf Of john longworth
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:26 PM
To: earlyfalcons@...
Subject: Re: [Early Falcons] 221 Installation into XM Coupe

the head is a 250 head 72da6049 etc....
the block was no 157 cast on the 25/8/69
arc9de 6015 etc
gv 7680.... engine no.
should all go ok. danny and mark at early bird know what there doing, honest
john
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Dale
   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:50 PM
   Subject: RE: [Early Falcons] 221 Installation into XM Coupe


   I forgot to mention...these are the numbers on the 221 engine I have...

   Head: 723A ?049A 29A4 2

   Block: 157, 25H9

   On block under coil: DE 6C15, GV7680

   I might have missed a letter or two under the coil.

   Can anyone interpret these for me?

   Thanks

   Dale W


   -----Original Message-----
   From: earlyfalcons@...
   [mailto:earlyfalcons@...] On Behalf Of Dale
   Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:15 PM
   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Subject: [Early Falcons] 221 Installation into XM Coupe

   Lads,

   finally decided to do the 221 conversion and have booked the old boy
   into Early Bird.  Going to cost me about $1k including new 3 core
   radiator and service, tune and rewire from generator to alternator.

   Just thought I'd let you know that I have a letter from Vicroads re
   this conversion which states "...it is acceptable to install 221 ford
   motor from XW into your XM.  Although the engine has a larger capacity
   it is accepted because the replacement has similar emotion (I don't
   know what that means) and similar capacity."

   Hope this clears up the situation for Victorians contemplating same
   conversion.

   PS- my 221 has been sitting for about 6 months.  Any advice or points
   I need to be aware of with this conversion?  Understand it's a pretty
   straight forward swap, and am confident Early Bird will do a good job,
   but any comments from the group welcome.






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#4306 From: "Darren Trew" <dtrew@...>
Date: Thu May 18, 2006 10:32 am
Subject:: Club Run Reminder
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To all NSW Early Falcon Car Club members (especially Andrew!!!!) and any other
Falcon owner that want to go for a drive.
This Sunday the 21st May we are going to Pamak Hobbies Garden Railway Bargo
meet at Narrelan Maccas 9.00am, leaving 9.30am, please email me if your coming
along so we dont leave without you.
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#4305 From: "john longworth" <honestjohn@...>
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 1:26 pm
Subject:: Re: [Early Falcons] 221 Installation into XM Coupe
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the head is a 250 head 72da6049 etc....
the block was no 157 cast on the 25/8/69
arc9de 6015 etc
gv 7680.... engine no.
should all go ok. danny and mark at early bird know what there doing, honest
john
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Dale
   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:50 PM
   Subject: RE: [Early Falcons] 221 Installation into XM Coupe


   I forgot to mention...these are the numbers on the 221 engine I have...

   Head: 723A ?049A 29A4 2

   Block: 157, 25H9

   On block under coil: DE 6C15, GV7680

   I might have missed a letter or two under the coil.

   Can anyone interpret these for me?

   Thanks

   Dale W


   -----Original Message-----
   From: earlyfalcons@...
   [mailto:earlyfalcons@...] On Behalf Of Dale
   Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:15 PM
   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Subject: [Early Falcons] 221 Installation into XM Coupe

   Lads,

   finally decided to do the 221 conversion and have booked the old boy
   into Early Bird.  Going to cost me about $1k including new 3 core
   radiator and service, tune and rewire from generator to alternator.

   Just thought I'd let you know that I have a letter from Vicroads re
   this conversion which states "...it is acceptable to install 221 ford
   motor from XW into your XM.  Although the engine has a larger capacity
   it is accepted because the replacement has similar emotion (I don't
   know what that means) and similar capacity."

   Hope this clears up the situation for Victorians contemplating same
   conversion.

   PS- my 221 has been sitting for about 6 months.  Any advice or points
   I need to be aware of with this conversion?  Understand it's a pretty
   straight forward swap, and am confident Early Bird will do a good job,
   but any comments from the group welcome.






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#4304 From: "Dale" <thewothers@...>
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 11:50 am
Subject:: RE: [Early Falcons] 221 Installation into XM Coupe
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I forgot to mention...these are the numbers on the 221 engine I have...

Head: 723A ?049A 29A4 2

Block: 157, 25H9

On block under coil: DE 6C15, GV7680

I might have missed a letter or two under the coil.

Can anyone interpret these for me?

Thanks

Dale W


-----Original Message-----
From: earlyfalcons@...
[mailto:earlyfalcons@...] On Behalf Of Dale
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:15 PM
To: earlyfalcons@...
Subject: [Early Falcons] 221 Installation into XM Coupe

Lads,

finally decided to do the 221 conversion and have booked the old boy
into Early Bird.  Going to cost me about $1k including new 3 core
radiator and service, tune and rewire from generator to alternator.

Just thought I'd let you know that I have a letter from Vicroads re
this conversion which states "...it is acceptable to install 221 ford
motor from XW into your XM.  Although the engine has a larger capacity
it is accepted because the replacement has similar emotion (I don't
know what that means) and similar capacity."

Hope this clears up the situation for Victorians contemplating same
conversion.

PS- my 221 has been sitting for about 6 months.  Any advice or points
I need to be aware of with this conversion?  Understand it's a pretty
straight forward swap, and am confident Early Bird will do a good job,
but any comments from the group welcome.






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#4303 From: "Dale" <thewothers@...>
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 11:14 am
Subject:: 221 Installation into XM Coupe
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Lads,

finally decided to do the 221 conversion and have booked the old boy
into Early Bird.  Going to cost me about $1k including new 3 core
radiator and service, tune and rewire from generator to alternator.

Just thought I'd let you know that I have a letter from Vicroads re
this conversion which states "...it is acceptable to install 221 ford
motor from XW into your XM.  Although the engine has a larger capacity
it is accepted because the replacement has similar emotion (I don't
know what that means) and similar capacity."

Hope this clears up the situation for Victorians contemplating same
conversion.

PS- my 221 has been sitting for about 6 months.  Any advice or points
I need to be aware of with this conversion?  Understand it's a pretty
straight forward swap, and am confident Early Bird will do a good job,
but any comments from the group welcome.


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