Where are you located? I have XP Fairmont Sedan.

--- In earlyfalcons@..., xppetey66 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Hi guys- i am a big fan of the XP Fairmont and wondering if anyone with one
could contact me for a chat and maybe even to view there car? I am restoring my
fairmont at the moment and am after a bit of info and maybe just to gain a
friend with similar interest. Any info will help and any parts would be just
ace! Thanks guys!
>

They're a bitch to put back on though (The springs)

Dale
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: malcolm
   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 7:02 AM
   Subject: Re: [Early Falcons] Re: BONNET HINGES





   I have found it difficult to adjust the hinges so as to get a nice neat
   closure line at the back of the bonnet. I figure it should be easier without
   any spring tension at all on the hinges themselves.
   Mal.

   -------Original Message-------

   From: Deon Cameron
   Date: 5/31/2009 7:59:27 PM
   To: earlyfalcons@...
   Subject: [Early Falcons] Re: BONNET HINGES




   I have seen many XK-XL Falcons use the later XM-XP springs to do away with
   the rod that holds them up. I have never seen it reversed. Any particular
   reason ?

   Deon

   --- In earlyfalcons@..., "malkyabram" <bakermalinda@...>
   wrote:
   >
   > I would like to replace the standard hinges [do without the springs] with
   others that would enable me to use support struts or front prop.
   > Can ones from any other car manufacturer be made to fit ?
   > Any other ideas ?
   >





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I have found it difficult to adjust the hinges so as to get a nice neat
closure line at the back of the bonnet. I figure it should be easier without
any spring tension at all on the hinges themselves.
Mal.

-------Original Message-------

From: Deon Cameron
Date: 5/31/2009 7:59:27 PM
To: earlyfalcons@...
Subject: [Early Falcons] Re: BONNET HINGES




I have seen many XK-XL Falcons use the later XM-XP springs to do away with
the rod that holds them up. I have never seen it reversed. Any particular
reason ?

Deon

--- In earlyfalcons@..., "malkyabram" <bakermalinda@...>
wrote:
>
> I would like to replace the standard hinges [do without the springs] with
others that would enable me to use support struts or front prop.
> Can ones from any other car manufacturer be made to fit ?
> Any other ideas ?
>





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I have seen many XK-XL Falcons use the later XM-XP springs to do away with the
rod that holds them up. I have never seen it reversed. Any particular reason ?

Deon

--- In earlyfalcons@..., "malkyabram" <bakermalinda@...> wrote:
>
> I would like to replace the standard hinges [do without the springs] with
others that would enable me to use support struts or front prop.
> Can ones from any other car manufacturer be made to fit ?
> Any other ideas ?
>

Thanks John
kind of what I was thinking. Only looking at the XE weber as Ive got one
in the shed.
As far as bigger valves I was only looking at doing the exhaust, ive
done a fair bit of reading and that seems to be the go.
thanks
ben

John Longworth wrote:
> ben, the 200 head will do the job if you have it, these were basically a 170
hi comp head with bigger valves, cant remember the exact comp ratio for a xr 200
but it was in the days of lead and octane fuel, would be well up there as
standard, allow for a rebuild or 2 over the years its probably got 9:1 already,
bigger valves will rob it of low end torque, drops the mixture velocity, only a
benefit when you are up the rev range, find a weber from a 2.o litre cortina, tc
td , no polution shit to block off  those xe xf ones have tubes and valves all
over them. it will fit under the bonnet no problems, the jet size would be close
to spot on. use the dizzy from an xe or xf carby model, cheap and plentiful,
just get it recurved to suit the cam. the later ones had the large hei cap like
ea etc. . get on one of the cam websites they have cam choice calculators, fill
in the relavent boxes it spits out the grind, important to be realistic about
what you are primarily going to use the c!
>  ar for when filling these in, or you will end up with a pig! honest john
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Ben Hobson
>   To: Early Falcon Group
>   Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 1:52 PM
>   Subject: [Early Falcons] engine advice
>
>
>
>
>
>   Gday all
>
>   Im about to start the engine build soon but I want some input to my
>   ideas. I basically want a smooth running engine with good economy and a
>   bit of torque down low.
>
>   The head I have here is off a 188/221, from what I can see these were
>   pretty much the same as the XR 200's???
>   Is it worthwhile putting bigger valves in it?
>   Im aiming for about 9:1 Compression ratio. The block has been decked but
>   I dont know how much until I assemble the bottom end, so the head will
>   more than likely need a tickle up as well
>
>   Im going to put a small cam in it, as its an auto with a 3.2 rear end,
>   anyone have any experience with the various camshafts out there?
>
>   I will be fitting headers, and Im toying with the idea of a Weber off an
>   XE, as Ive used these before on a 250-2V and had good results.
>   Pretty sure I 'may' have to jet it down a bit. Will this fit under the
>   bonnet of an XM. What are people using for a cable accelerator pedal?
>
>   Whats the best distributor setup? standard dissy with a pertronics or
>   try and hunt down a Duraspark like they use in the states?
>
>   Thats all I can think of for now, more than likely I will think of
>   something else later
>
>   Thanks
>   Ben
>
>
>
>
>
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ben, the 200 head will do the job if you have it, these were basically a 170 hi
comp head with bigger valves, cant remember the exact comp ratio for a xr 200
but it was in the days of lead and octane fuel, would be well up there as
standard, allow for a rebuild or 2 over the years its probably got 9:1 already,
bigger valves will rob it of low end torque, drops the mixture velocity, only a
benefit when you are up the rev range, find a weber from a 2.o litre cortina, tc
td , no polution shit to block off  those xe xf ones have tubes and valves all
over them. it will fit under the bonnet no problems, the jet size would be close
to spot on. use the dizzy from an xe or xf carby model, cheap and plentiful,
just get it recurved to suit the cam. the later ones had the large hei cap like
ea etc. . get on one of the cam websites they have cam choice calculators, fill
in the relavent boxes it spits out the grind, important to be realistic about
what you are primarily going to use the car for when filling these in, or you
will end up with a pig! honest john
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Ben Hobson
   To: Early Falcon Group
   Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 1:52 PM
   Subject: [Early Falcons] engine advice





   Gday all

   Im about to start the engine build soon but I want some input to my
   ideas. I basically want a smooth running engine with good economy and a
   bit of torque down low.

   The head I have here is off a 188/221, from what I can see these were
   pretty much the same as the XR 200's???
   Is it worthwhile putting bigger valves in it?
   Im aiming for about 9:1 Compression ratio. The block has been decked but
   I dont know how much until I assemble the bottom end, so the head will
   more than likely need a tickle up as well

   Im going to put a small cam in it, as its an auto with a 3.2 rear end,
   anyone have any experience with the various camshafts out there?

   I will be fitting headers, and Im toying with the idea of a Weber off an
   XE, as Ive used these before on a 250-2V and had good results.
   Pretty sure I 'may' have to jet it down a bit. Will this fit under the
   bonnet of an XM. What are people using for a cable accelerator pedal?

   Whats the best distributor setup? standard dissy with a pertronics or
   try and hunt down a Duraspark like they use in the states?

   Thats all I can think of for now, more than likely I will think of
   something else later

   Thanks
   Ben





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Basicly the same design but without the sections for the springs to attach too



Bill



To: earlyfalcons@...
From: bakermalinda@...
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 16:33:19 +1000
Subject: RE: [Early Falcons] BONNET HINGES







Bill,
Apart from no springs, how do the xk/l hinges differ?
Thanks...Mal.

-------Original Message-------

From: bill yelland
Date: 5/30/2009 11:36:06 AM
To: earlyfalcons@...
Subject: RE: [Early Falcons] BONNET HINGES





yes they are exactly the same

Bill


To: earlyfalcons@...
From: bakermalinda@...
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 11:14:19 +1000
Subject: RE: [Early Falcons] BONNET HINGES

Thanks Bill,
Would I be correct in assuming that the fixing bolt holes are the same as in
my XM ?

-------Original Message-------

From: bill yelland
Date: 5/30/2009 9:40:40 AM
To: earlyfalcons@...
Subject: RE: [Early Falcons] BONNET HINGES

The XK XL models had no springs in the hinges and a support rod

Bill

To: earlyfalcons@...
From: bakermalinda@...
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 22:06:00 +0000
Subject: [Early Falcons] BONNET HINGES

I would like to replace the standard hinges [do without the springs] with
others that would enable me to use support struts or front prop.
Can ones from any other car manufacturer be made to fit ?
Any other ideas ?

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If theres anyone wanting to go to All Ford Day at Eastern Creek on
Sunday /Tomorrow, we have some places left
let me know if you want to go but havnt done anything about it quick !!!
Darren.

Bill,
Apart from no springs, how do the xk/l hinges differ?
Thanks...Mal.

-------Original Message-------

From: bill yelland
Date: 5/30/2009 11:36:06 AM
To: earlyfalcons@...
Subject: RE: [Early Falcons] BONNET HINGES





yes they are exactly the same

Bill


To: earlyfalcons@...
From: bakermalinda@...
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 11:14:19 +1000
Subject: RE: [Early Falcons] BONNET HINGES

Thanks Bill,
Would I be correct in assuming that the fixing bolt holes are the same as in
my XM ?

-------Original Message-------

From: bill yelland
Date: 5/30/2009 9:40:40 AM
To: earlyfalcons@...
Subject: RE: [Early Falcons] BONNET HINGES

The XK XL models had no springs in the hinges and a support rod

Bill

To: earlyfalcons@...
From: bakermalinda@...
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 22:06:00 +0000
Subject: [Early Falcons] BONNET HINGES

I would like to replace the standard hinges [do without the springs] with
others that would enable me to use support struts or front prop.
Can ones from any other car manufacturer be made to fit ?
Any other ideas ?

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Gday all

Im about to start the engine build soon but I want some input to my
ideas. I basically want a smooth running engine with good economy and a
bit of torque down low.

The head I have here is off a 188/221, from what I can see these were
pretty much the same as the XR 200's???
Is it worthwhile putting bigger valves in it?
Im aiming for about 9:1 Compression ratio. The block has been decked but
I dont know how much until I assemble the bottom end, so the head will
more than likely need a tickle up as well

Im going to put a small cam in it, as its an auto with a 3.2 rear end,
anyone have any experience with the various camshafts out there?

I will be fitting headers, and Im toying with the idea of a Weber off an
XE, as Ive used these before on a 250-2V and had good results.
Pretty sure I 'may' have to jet it down a bit. Will this fit under the
bonnet of an XM. What are people using for a cable accelerator pedal?

Whats the best distributor setup? standard dissy with a pertronics or
try and hunt down a Duraspark like they use in the states?

Thats all I can think of for now, more than likely I will think of
something else later


Thanks
Ben

yes they are exactly the same



Bill



To: earlyfalcons@...
From: bakermalinda@...
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 11:14:19 +1000
Subject: RE: [Early Falcons] BONNET HINGES







Thanks Bill,
Would I be correct in assuming that the fixing bolt holes are the same as in
my XM ?

-------Original Message-------

From: bill yelland
Date: 5/30/2009 9:40:40 AM
To: earlyfalcons@...
Subject: RE: [Early Falcons] BONNET HINGES





The XK XL models had no springs in the hinges and a support rod

Bill


To: earlyfalcons@...
From: bakermalinda@...
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 22:06:00 +0000
Subject: [Early Falcons] BONNET HINGES

I would like to replace the standard hinges [do without the springs] with
others that would enable me to use support struts or front prop.
Can ones from any other car manufacturer be made to fit ?
Any other ideas ?

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Thanks Bill,
Would I be correct in assuming that the fixing bolt holes are the same as in
my XM ?

-------Original Message-------

From: bill yelland
Date: 5/30/2009 9:40:40 AM
To: earlyfalcons@...
Subject: RE: [Early Falcons] BONNET HINGES





The XK XL models had no springs in the hinges and a support rod

Bill


To: earlyfalcons@...
From: bakermalinda@...
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 22:06:00 +0000
Subject: [Early Falcons] BONNET HINGES

I would like to replace the standard hinges [do without the springs] with
others that would enable me to use support struts or front prop.
Can ones from any other car manufacturer be made to fit ?
Any other ideas ?

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The XK XL  models had no springs in the hinges and a support rod



Bill



To: earlyfalcons@...
From: bakermalinda@...
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 22:06:00 +0000
Subject: [Early Falcons] BONNET HINGES







I would like to replace the standard hinges [do without the springs] with others
that would enable me to use support struts or front prop.
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I would like to replace the standard hinges [do without the springs] with others
that would enable me to use support struts or front prop.
Can ones from any other car manufacturer be made to fit ?
Any other ideas ?

Dave, the repro ones aren't Mustang, the latest ones out have holes drilled with
reinforcements behind them to stop them pulling in too much. They only come in
black but can be painted to suit. I have some in stock plain or with 6" speaker
molds in them so you don't have to cut away at the metal.

Deon

earlyfalcons@...

--- In earlyfalcons@..., "Dave Colvin" <dave.colvin@...> wrote:
>
> --- In earlyfalcons@..., "BandJ" <blinky1966@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi group still chasing hens teeth or a red right hand plastic kick panel
either would be great
> >
> > Thanks Bill
> >
>
>
> I know Murph has some - I got one of him, not sure about Red...0422 369 850...
>
> Otherwise I have also seen that you can buy new Mustang (US Falcon) units from
the USA, they are not 100% perfect for concores resto and have to be drilled by
you. But they look good (look as in seen them on the web).
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>

if you cant get the specific colour, you can always use vinyl dye on a light
coloured kick panel to get it right.

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Dave Colvin <dave.colvin@...>wrote:

> --- In earlyfalcons@..., "BandJ" <blinky1966@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi group still chasing hens teeth or a red right hand plastic kick panel
> either would be great
> >
> > Thanks Bill
> >
>
>
> I know Murph has some - I got one of him, not sure about Red...0422 369
> 850...
>
> Otherwise I have also seen that you can buy new Mustang (US Falcon) units
> from the USA, they are not 100% perfect for concores resto and have to be
> drilled by you. But they look good (look as in seen them on the web).
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>
>
>
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Hi guys- i am a big fan of the XP Fairmont and wondering if anyone with one
could contact me for a chat and maybe even to view there car? I am restoring my
fairmont at the moment and am after a bit of info and maybe just to gain a
friend with similar interest. Any info will help and any parts would be just
ace! Thanks guys!

--- In earlyfalcons@..., "BandJ" <blinky1966@...> wrote:
>
> Hi group still chasing hens teeth or a red right hand plastic kick panel
either would be great
>
> Thanks Bill
>


I know Murph has some - I got one of him, not sure about Red...0422 369 850...

Otherwise I have also seen that you can buy new Mustang (US Falcon) units from
the USA, they are not 100% perfect for concores resto and have to be drilled by
you. But they look good (look as in seen them on the web).

Cheers
Dave

Hi group found this maybe of intrest copy the link and about 3 minutes in there
is a XM clip done in 1977
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZPDUTplP_E

Bill

Hi group still chasing hens teeth or a red right hand plastic kick panel either
would be great

Thanks Bill

Martin is the Son and Geoff is the Father, if you have the chance
check out where their racing and give them some support
its a great cheap day out watching the Historic touring cars.
Darren.
On 25/06/2009, at 12:24 PM, Graham Lawrence wrote:

>
>
> Some will recall one of this forum's members races an XM Falcon in
> Historic Touring cars. Well whilst looking at all things historic
> racing cars I stumbled across what I suspect is his Falcon. Have a
> look at historicracing.com.au photogallery '2007 Eastern Creek
> Historic- Photos courtesy of John Buxton, for Matin Kings number
> 46Nb Falcon.
>
> Gunny
>
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Provided the engine you have is still either a 144 or 170 just stamp the engine
tower number and avoid the hassle.

As I understand Ford use to provide clean unstamped engine blocks as
replacements for the GTHO's

Gunny


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   Subject: RE: [Early Falcons] Missing Engine Number


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   Judging by the passed comments it would seem most States are very hot on
correct numbers but here as long as the engine has some kind of number they are
normally happy.

   However if the number looks as if it has been tampered with that's another
matter.

   Chances are you original engine is now a collection of razorblades or living
in China somewhere awaiting the heat treatment. The original engine number is
the one stamped into the suspension tower, may be just hire a letter/number
punch set and stamp the original number back into the new block?

   To: earlyfalcons@...
   From: douglas.martin@...
   Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 11:50:30 +0000
   Subject: Re: [Early Falcons] Missing Engine Number

   I have a similar dilemma with an XL Ute that is currently in Vic.

   The engine was replaced with a NOS crate motor from the Philippines about 15
years ago.

   Thus no engine number, but I will have to get the car inspected by transport
SA and obtain a new engine number if I want to register the Ute here in SA.

   The question I want ask is;

   Is it possible to recreate the original engine number from the body/door id
tag? Thus eliminating the need for transport SA to reissue me with a new number.

   Martin

   --- In earlyfalcons@..., Sourbastard <sourbastard@...> wrote:

   >

   > shouldnt be too hard. In South Australia if the number is missing or cant be

   > read, usually transport SA issue you a police number to have stamped on the

   > block by an approved person. I would imagine the process would be the same

   > if you had a crate motor from the US with no block number. Contact your

   > local RTA and they should be able to set you straight. These things happen.

   >

   > On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 3:44 PM, <hobbo1@...> wrote:

   >

   > >

   > > I was told it came from an XT. Wonder how hard its going to be to register

   > >

   > > On Thu, May 21st, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Sourbastard <sourbastard@...>

   > > wrote:

   > >

   > > > its not a 200 from a US mustang or similar is it? Might not have an

   > > > engine

   > > > number in this case, just a casting number?

   > > >

   > > > On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Ben Hobson

   > > > <hobbo1@...>wrote:

   > > >

   > > > > Ive had a real good look over the block 3 or 4 times, still no

   > > > engine

   > > > > number.

   > > > > My guess is it was above the vent hole and was machined off when

   > > > the

   > > > > block was decked??????

   > > > > cheers

   > > > > Ben

   > > > >

   > > > > John Longworth wrote:

   > > > > > ben, check area, at rear on block below temp sender, or at

   > > > front

   > > > > passenger side above vent pipe hole, 200's have em all over the

   > > > place,

   > > > > honest john

   > > > > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > > > > From: Ben Hobson

   > > > > > To: Early Falcon Group

   > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:58 PM

   > > > > > Subject: [Early Falcons] Missing Engine Number

   > > > > >

   > > > > >

   > > > > >

   > > > > >

   > > > > >

   > > > > > I just picked up a 200 block, but I cant find the engine

   > > > number. Where

   > > > > > the engine no. is on my 170 is nothing on the 200. The block

   > > > has been

   > > > > > chemically cleaned. Would this have somehow erased the number?

   > > > What

   > > > > > should I do as I want to put this engine in my car?

   > > > > > thanks

   > > > > > ben

   > > > > >

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Some will recall one of this forum's members races an XM Falcon in Historic
Touring cars. Well whilst looking at all things historic racing cars I stumbled
across what I suspect is his Falcon. Have a look at   historicracing.com.au  
photogallery  '2007 Eastern Creek Historic- Photos courtesy of John Buxton, for
Matin Kings number 46Nb Falcon.


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Judging by the passed comments it would seem most States are very hot on correct
numbers but here as long as the engine has some kind of number they are normally
happy.

However if the number looks as if it has been tampered with that's another
matter.

  Chances are you original engine is now a collection of razorblades or living in
China somewhere awaiting the heat treatment.  The original engine number is the
one stamped into the suspension tower, may be just hire a letter/number punch
set and stamp the original number back into the new block?

To: earlyfalcons@...
From: douglas.martin@...
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 11:50:30 +0000
Subject: Re: [Early Falcons] Missing Engine Number


























       I have a similar dilemma with an XL Ute that is currently in Vic.

The engine was replaced with a NOS crate motor from the Philippines about 15
years ago.

Thus no engine number, but I will have to get the car inspected by transport SA
and obtain a new engine number if I want to register the Ute here in SA.

The question I want ask is;

Is it possible to recreate the original engine number from the body/door id tag?
Thus eliminating the need for transport SA to reissue me with a new number.

Martin



--- In earlyfalcons@..., Sourbastard <sourbastard@...> wrote:

>

> shouldnt be too hard. In South Australia if the number is missing or cant be

> read, usually transport SA issue you a police number to have stamped on the

> block by an approved person. I would imagine the process would be the same

> if you had a crate motor from the US with no block number. Contact your

> local RTA and they should be able to set you straight. These things happen.

>

> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 3:44 PM, <hobbo1@...> wrote:

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> >

> > I was told it came from an XT. Wonder how hard its going to be to register

> >

> > On Thu, May 21st, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Sourbastard <sourbastard@...>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > its not a 200 from a US mustang or similar is it? Might not have an

> > > engine

> > > number in this case, just a casting number?

> > >

> > > On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Ben Hobson

> > > <hobbo1@...>wrote:

> > >

> > > > Ive had a real good look over the block 3 or 4 times, still no

> > > engine

> > > > number.

> > > > My guess is it was above the vent hole and was machined off when

> > > the

> > > > block was decked??????

> > > > cheers

> > > > Ben

> > > >

> > > > John Longworth wrote:

> > > > > ben, check area, at rear  on block below temp sender, or at

> > > front

> > > > passenger side above vent pipe hole, 200's have em all over the

> > > place,

> > > > honest john

> > > > >   ----- Original Message -----

> > > > >   From: Ben Hobson

> > > > >   To: Early Falcon Group

> > > > >   Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:58 PM

> > > > >   Subject: [Early Falcons] Missing Engine Number

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> > > > >

> > > > >   I just picked up a 200 block, but I cant find the engine

> > > number. Where

> > > > >   the engine no. is on my 170 is nothing on the 200. The block

> > > has been

> > > > >   chemically cleaned. Would this have somehow erased the number?

> > > What

> > > > >   should I do as I want to put this engine in my car?

> > > > >   thanks

> > > > >   ben

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I have a similar dilemma with an XL Ute that is currently in Vic.
The engine was replaced with a NOS crate motor from the Philippines about 15
years ago.
Thus no engine number, but I will have to get the car inspected by transport SA
and obtain a new engine number if I want to register the Ute here in SA.
The question I want ask is;
Is it possible to recreate the original engine number from the body/door id tag?
Thus eliminating the need for transport SA to reissue me with a new number.
Martin


--- In earlyfalcons@..., Sourbastard <sourbastard@...> wrote:
>
> shouldnt be too hard. In South Australia if the number is missing or cant be
> read, usually transport SA issue you a police number to have stamped on the
> block by an approved person. I would imagine the process would be the same
> if you had a crate motor from the US with no block number. Contact your
> local RTA and they should be able to set you straight. These things happen.
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 3:44 PM, <hobbo1@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > I was told it came from an XT. Wonder how hard its going to be to register
> >
> > On Thu, May 21st, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Sourbastard <sourbastard@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > its not a 200 from a US mustang or similar is it? Might not have an
> > > engine
> > > number in this case, just a casting number?
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Ben Hobson
> > > <hobbo1@...>wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ive had a real good look over the block 3 or 4 times, still no
> > > engine
> > > > number.
> > > > My guess is it was above the vent hole and was machined off when
> > > the
> > > > block was decked??????
> > > > cheers
> > > > Ben
> > > >
> > > > John Longworth wrote:
> > > > > ben, check area, at rear  on block below temp sender, or at
> > > front
> > > > passenger side above vent pipe hole, 200's have em all over the
> > > place,
> > > > honest john
> > > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >   From: Ben Hobson
> > > > >   To: Early Falcon Group
> > > > >   Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:58 PM
> > > > >   Subject: [Early Falcons] Missing Engine Number
> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >   I just picked up a 200 block, but I cant find the engine
> > > number. Where
> > > > >   the engine no. is on my 170 is nothing on the 200. The block
> > > has been
> > > > >   chemically cleaned. Would this have somehow erased the number?
> > > What
> > > > >   should I do as I want to put this engine in my car?
> > > > >   thanks
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I bought a 250 block from Ford it came without a number, I had to go to the
police station and get a number from them and have it stanped on the block.
check with your police. Les

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--- On Wed, 20/5/09, Ben Hobson <hobbo1@...> wrote:

From: Ben Hobson <hobbo1@...>
Subject: [Early Falcons] Missing Engine Number
To: "Early Falcon Group" <earlyfalcons@...>
Received: Wednesday, 20 May, 2009, 4:58 PM

















       I just picked up a 200 block, but I cant find the engine number. Where

the engine no. is on my 170 is nothing on the 200. The block has been

chemically cleaned. Would this have somehow erased the number? What

should I do as I want to put this engine in my car?

thanks

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Tried all suggestions. Ended up just pulling them off. Only a little bit
of repair to do, better than I expected
thanks
Ben

Darren Trew wrote:
> yeah that last bolt will hold you up for hours and have you wishing
> you never started !!!
> On 24/05/2009, at 10:25 AM, Early Falcon Club of WA wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Quote from HJ, "it's easier to do it than to describe it!," unquote
>> - Famous last words.
>>
>> LoL :)
>>
>> To: earlyfalcons@...
>> From: honestjohn@...
>> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 00:36:27 +1000
>> Subject: Re: [Early Falcons] removing guards
>>
>> ben,there is a plate similar to a washer under the head of the bolt,
>> it is meant to hold the head of the bolt to stop it turning in the
>> gaurd, if the nuts are tight on the thread the force used to loosen
>> them usually overides these plates, they are approx 50 x 25mm they
>> have a square hole in them, the bolt has a square section just below
>> the head, there fore if you can hold the plate still you can undo
>> the nut, the best method i have found is to first apply plenty of
>> wd40, penetrene or whatever ,to the nuts maybe even leave it a while
>> to soak in, then using something like a tyre leaver or large flat
>> tip screwdriver slide it in between the gaurd and the A pillar
>> beside the bolt (lower one up from under, upper one in from door
>> opening) then using your socket on the nut from inside turn the nut
>> until you feel the plate at head of bolt hit your lever, allow the
>> plate to slip under the lever then apply pressure to it to hold it
>> against the gaurd, if your wd40 has done its job you should be able
>> to hold the head still using the plate and lever to undo the nut.
>> for anyone else about to do this job, same applies use wd40 first on
>> both bolts and hold outward pressure on the gaurd from the very
>> start it stops the plates from disengaging from the gaurd in the
>> first place, hope this is clear its easier to do it than to describe
>> it!, honest john
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Ben Hobson
>>
>> To: Early Falcon Group
>>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 6:50 PM
>>
>> Subject: [Early Falcons] removing guards
>>
>> I attempted to remove the guards of my XM today. All was fine until I
>>
>> came to the nuts inside the car near the kickpanels.
>>
>> On both sides the nut is just spinning the bolt. On the right hand
>> side
>>
>> it is the bottom one, on the left is the top.
>>
>> Anyone got any ideas as to how i get them undone???
>>
>> thanks Ben
>>
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On 24/05/2009, at 10:25 AM, Early Falcon Club of WA wrote:

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>
>
> Quote from HJ, "it's easier to do it than to describe it!," unquote
> - Famous last words.
>
> LoL :)
>
> To: earlyfalcons@...
> From: honestjohn@...
> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 00:36:27 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Early Falcons] removing guards
>
> ben,there is a plate similar to a washer under the head of the bolt,
> it is meant to hold the head of the bolt to stop it turning in the
> gaurd, if the nuts are tight on the thread the force used to loosen
> them usually overides these plates, they are approx 50 x 25mm they
> have a square hole in them, the bolt has a square section just below
> the head, there fore if you can hold the plate still you can undo
> the nut, the best method i have found is to first apply plenty of
> wd40, penetrene or whatever ,to the nuts maybe even leave it a while
> to soak in, then using something like a tyre leaver or large flat
> tip screwdriver slide it in between the gaurd and the A pillar
> beside the bolt (lower one up from under, upper one in from door
> opening) then using your socket on the nut from inside turn the nut
> until you feel the plate at head of bolt hit your lever, allow the
> plate to slip under the lever then apply pressure to it to hold it
> against the gaurd, if your wd40 has done its job you should be able
> to hold the head still using the plate and lever to undo the nut.
> for anyone else about to do this job, same applies use wd40 first on
> both bolts and hold outward pressure on the gaurd from the very
> start it stops the plates from disengaging from the gaurd in the
> first place, hope this is clear its easier to do it than to describe
> it!, honest john
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Ben Hobson
>
> To: Early Falcon Group
>
> Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 6:50 PM
>
> Subject: [Early Falcons] removing guards
>
> I attempted to remove the guards of my XM today. All was fine until I
>
> came to the nuts inside the car near the kickpanels.
>
> On both sides the nut is just spinning the bolt. On the right hand
> side
>
> it is the bottom one, on the left is the top.
>
> Anyone got any ideas as to how i get them undone???
>
> thanks Ben
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Quote from HJ,  "it's easier to do it than to describe it!," unquote - Famous
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  LoL :)

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From: honestjohn@...
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 00:36:27 +1000
Subject: Re: [Early Falcons] removing guards


























       ben,there is a plate similar to a washer under the head of the bolt, it is
meant to hold the head of the bolt to stop it turning in the gaurd, if the nuts
are tight on the thread the force used to loosen them usually overides these
plates, they are approx 50 x 25mm they have a square hole in them, the bolt has
a square section just below the head, there fore if you can hold the plate still
you can undo the nut, the best method i have found is to first apply plenty of
wd40, penetrene or whatever ,to the nuts maybe even leave it a while to soak in,
then using something like a tyre leaver or large flat tip screwdriver slide it
in between the gaurd and the A pillar beside the bolt (lower one up from under,
upper one in from door opening) then using your socket on the nut from inside
turn the nut until you feel the plate at head of bolt hit your lever, allow the
plate to slip under the lever then apply pressure to it to hold it against the
gaurd, if your wd40 has done its job you should be able to hold the head still
using the plate and lever to undo the nut. for anyone else about to do this job,
same applies use wd40 first on both bolts and hold outward pressure on the gaurd
from the very start it stops the plates from disengaging from the gaurd in the
first place, hope this is clear its easier to do it than to describe it!, honest
john

   ----- Original Message -----

   From: Ben Hobson

   To: Early Falcon Group

   Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 6:50 PM

   Subject: [Early Falcons] removing guards



I attempted to remove the guards of my XM today. All was fine until I

   came to the nuts inside the car near the kickpanels.

   On both sides the nut is just spinning the bolt. On the right hand side

   it is the bottom one, on the left is the top.

   Anyone got any ideas as to how i get them undone???

   thanks Ben



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John, got the ones near the windscreen, its the ones you access from
inside the car. Ill do what you suggested and see what happens. Thanks

John Longworth wrote:
> ben just went back and reread your post, if by top bolt you mean the one right
at the top at the corner of the winscreen, you can access the threaded insert
via the under dash airvent hole , spray with what ever your favourite brew is,
wait then use vice grips to hold it still, it is meant to be attached to the car
but 45 years tends to seize them up, undoing the bolt often breaks them free
from the body, good luck, i'll get back to you tomorrow night about the other
stuff, honest john
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Ben Hobson
>   To: Early Falcon Group
>   Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 6:50 PM
>   Subject: [Early Falcons] removing guards
>
>
>
>
>
>   I attempted to remove the guards of my XM today. All was fine until I
>   came to the nuts inside the car near the kickpanels.
>   On both sides the nut is just spinning the bolt. On the right hand side
>   it is the bottom one, on the left is the top.
>   Anyone got any ideas as to how i get them undone???
>   thanks Ben
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