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Re: Update on the 'fossil trees' in Upper Narrabeen, Gosford-Hawkesb   Message List  
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Re: [fossilclubgroup] Re: Thread north of Sydney (was: Update on the 'fossil trees' in Upper Narrabeen, Gosford-Hawkesbury area)

Hi John,
I have an orriginal report on the fossil from that
Railway ballast quarry at Gosford, If you give me some
time as i am currently in the Mt Isa Field Office
I can email a PDF to you.

Also i recently purchased a fish from Picton of the
internet but no details came with it, do you know of
any fish localities in the picton area?

Fossils from Sydney are becomming harder to source if
any one has any they would like to sell... please let
me know.

Many thanks

Rodney

--- John <john.mail@...> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Rodney,
>
> Yes I am aware that people have been there since the
> 1800s and have looked.
>
> But I don't know of any reports on the site.
>
> Or if the originally published drawing of the face,
> and stratigraphic
> labelling, allows for the fossil-bearing lens to be
> recognised today .. or
> allows for any reasoning that it was totally
> extracted (i.e. cannot extend
> further into the hill), or if there are any other
> railway cuttings nearby
> that show anything.
>
> Major reason I don't know is that I haven't been
> there yet.
>
> It seems that it could be a relatively very easy
> site to get to .. being
> right near a station on a railway line with quick
> train from Sydney.
>
> I tried asking from Council about it .. in case of
> any access restrictions
> .. but could find nobody at Gosford Council who had
> ever heard of "Blunts
> Quarry".
>
> There is also a much bigger quarry at Gosford, near
> (SSE of) the Court House.
>
> This was the sawn stone quarry of the Hawkesbury
> Sandstone Co.
>
> They moved out of Gosford because of the increasing
> traffic congestion etc.
> making it not a good place any longer for operating
> a quarry ... and maybe
> also because they were approaching the edge of their
> leaseholding, but I
> don't know that for sure.
>
> And the company also changed its name from
> Hawkesbury Sandstone Co. to
> Gosford Quarries.
>
> I'd guess the fish horizon would be somewhat below
> the floor of the quarry
> near the courthouse .. which quarry faces are still
> accessible and luxury
> highrise housing has been built in that quarry too.
> Again I haven't been
> there, to that quarry either .. and have merely seen
> photos of the new
> housing development there.
>
> Martin Rosser had been interested to go on the
> excursion to check out the
> "fossil trees" that were published on originally in
> the creationist
> journal, at Box Head in Bouddi National Park, but I
> don't think he was able
> to make it on the day choosen.
>
> If there is anyone interested in the fossil trees of
> Fennel Bay I am hoping
> to do more on that this year and would like to
> combine effort with anyone
> interested ... please see:
>
>
http://www.lachlanhunter.deadsetfreestuff.com/JB/fennell-bay1.htm
>
> Note also the story of a connection with a Giant
> Goanna spirit which came
> from Heaven and killed people (petrified them to
> what we call the fossil
> trees?) as punishment for them having killed lice.
>
> It may be difficult at this point in time to work
> out why killing lice is
> so bad as to be a mortal sin.
>
> But the wording is as recorded by early missionary
> in the area and he seems
> to have been an assiduous records-maker.
>
> He had set out to record and study the local
> language of Lake Macquarie,
> then called Awaba Lake.
>
> As I have written at fennell-bay1.htm, "When the
> missionary L.E Threlkeld
> in the 1830s recorded the tradition about an
> immense goanna or iguana it likely suggested nothing
> in particular.
> Nowadays it may remind one of the Megalania".
>
> The Megalania was three times the size of a modern
> Komodo Dragon and almost
> certainly lived contemporaneous and in the same
> areas as humans and could
> 'punish' humans mortally (eat them for example!).
>
> But can the megafauna be "remembered" in any way
> 'culturally'.
>
> Is it possible, or proven anywhere in the world,
> that cultures can preserve
> genuine memory/record of vanished life forms as old
> as the aussie megafauna?
>
> As yet I have not seen any 'proven' cases of this
> sort of thing, from
> anywhere.
>
> But there's plenty of speculation about (as Googling
> will show *S*). And
> quite likely persons like Mr Rex Gilroy and other
> 'cryptozoologists' are
> still having sightings of the giant lizard (and UFOs
> too?) in the Wattagan
> mountain ranges west of the Lake. Rex has probably
> got dinosaurs in this
> backyard and finds footprints of them in the
> sandstone.
>
> I wonder how many are interested in that sort of
> thing compared with
> 'orthodox' palaeontology?
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> At 06:50 PM 2/02/08 -0800, you wrote:
>
> >Dear All,
>
> >The Australian museum paleo staff have looked at
> the
> >gosford site which did exist in a rail corp ballast
> >quarry north of Gosford. I have been told that
> there
> >is nothing left there, but you never know. The fish
> >from the quarry was written up in memoirs of the
> >Geological survey of NSW. Palaeontology Memoirs
> 1895?
> >By woodward. the site is also brefly mentioned in
> Paul
> >Willis book Digging Deep time.
> >
> >
> >The fossil dealer in Gosford is Martin Rosser of
> >Willyama AKA Geodiscoveries.
> >
> >Rodney
> >
> >--- "john.mail@..."
> ><john.mail@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> >---------------------------------
> >
> >
> >Hi Chris,
> >
> >I still haven't joined the Fossil Club.
> >
> >I want to but I am awful with filling in forms and
> >snail-mailing anything. If you, or my secretary,
> >would do that part for me I'll hand over the cold
> >cash.
> >
> >As for Gosford I have never been to it yet myself
> but
> >am told that it is very close to the railway
> station
> >and that the fossil bed was near the base of the
> >quarry ... I suppose just a bit above the level of
> >the railway line.
> >
> >Who owns the quarry now and what the exposure there
> is
> >like I have no idea of.
> >
> >The quickest way of determining these things would
> be
>
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Hi Chris, I still haven't joined the Fossil Club. I want to but I am awful with filling in forms and snail-mailing anything. If you, or my secretary, would do...
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Feb 2, 2008
10:30 pm

Dear All, The Australian museum paleo staff have looked at the gosford site which did exist in a rail corp ballast quarry north of Gosford. I have been told...
Rodney Berrell
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Feb 3, 2008
2:50 am

Hi Rodney, Yes I am aware that people have been there since the 1800s and have looked. But I don't know of any reports on the site. Or if the originally...
John
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Feb 3, 2008
4:36 am

Hi John, I have an orriginal report on the fossil from that Railway ballast quarry at Gosford, If you give me some time as i am currently in the Mt Isa Field...
Rodney Berrell
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Feb 3, 2008
6:17 am

Interesting information, if anyone finds out whether its possible to collect fish there be sure to post it on here! mabey the F.C can have a field trip there! ...
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Feb 3, 2008
7:58 am

Hi Rodney, Thanks. John Adamek, Edscope Enterprises, recently sold a fossil fish stated to be from Picton (as below). If you can trace the site back through...
John
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