Hi Rodney,

What fossils did you find?

Is the situation amongst geologists really that bad now? I've been
studying geology in university and the aspect of everything seems to
have flipped in it's head. When I started my degree they were all
talking economic geology up; there was a shortage of graduates and
they were waving a carrot of a %75,000 per annum wage for graduates
fresh out of honours. Now, as I approach the end of my degree we are
in this economic downturn and Rio Tinto (who was one of the most
aggressive recruiter in the university) is cutting a lot of people
adrift.

Regards,

  Reswob

--- In fossilclubgroup@..., Rodney Berrell
<rod_rex@...> wrote:
>
> Dear reswob of the dreaming,
> I hope all is well! Thanks for your comments.
> As with most geologist at the moment. I have lost my job, so I am
returning to Sydney:) with a few crates of fossils from the Mount Isa
region.
>
> Many thanks and best
>
> Regards
>
> Rodney
>
> --- On Wed, 10/12/08, reswobofthedreaming <reswobofthedreaming@...>
wrote:
>
> From: reswobofthedreaming <reswobofthedreaming@...>
> Subject: [fossilclubgroup] Re: AUSTRALIAN MESOZOIC FISH FOSSILS
> To: fossilclubgroup@...
> Received: Wednesday, 10 December, 2008, 1:15 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
>             Hi Rodney,
>
>
>
> All I know about the trilobites in the Mt. Isa is that you can find
>
> them at Beetle Creek, but when I went there, it was a cattle
station.
>
> Guess it is private property and you would have to ask permission.
>
> Actually the ones out in Beetle Creek may be really hard to get
>
> because they are behind the ore processing facilities and in the
>
> fallout area of the smelter. You have to get serious permission to
get
>
> out there, from my experience.
>
>
>
> having said all that I don't really know the ropes, I'm not a local
to
>
> the area. I'm pretty young and green too. :-) I'm sure there are
other
>
> more accessable trilobites somewhere there.
>
>
>
> --- In fossilclubgroup@ yahoogroups. com.au, "rod_rex" <rod_rex@ >
wrote:
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> >
>
> > Dear All,
>
> > I hope all is well.
>
> > I am currently looking for a complete Coccolepis from Talbragar
fish
>
> > beds to complete my collection. Does any one know anyone who may
want
>
> > to sell one?
>
> > i am also looking for a good AETHEOLEPIS also from talbragar.
>
> >
>
> > many thanks
>
> >
>
> > rodney
>
> >
>
> > P.S. can anyone tell me some information on trilobites from the
MT Isa
>
> > District.
>
> >
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>       Start your day with Yahoo!7 and win a Sony Bravia TV. Enter
now http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/?p1=other&p2=au&p3=tagline
>

Hi Rodney,

All I know about the trilobites in the Mt. Isa is that you can find
them at Beetle Creek, but when I went there, it was a cattle station.
Guess it is private property and you would have to ask permission.
Actually the ones out in Beetle Creek may be really hard to get
because they are behind the ore processing facilities and in the
fallout area of the smelter. You have to get serious permission to get
out there, from my experience.

having said all that I don't really know the ropes, I'm not a local to
the area. I'm pretty young and green too. :-) I'm sure there are other
more accessable trilobites somewhere there.


--- In fossilclubgroup@..., "rod_rex" <rod_rex@...> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
> I hope all is well.
> I am currently looking for a complete Coccolepis from Talbragar fish
> beds to complete my collection. Does any one know anyone who may want
> to sell one?
> i am also looking for a good AETHEOLEPIS also from talbragar.
>
> many thanks
>
> rodney
>
> P.S. can anyone tell me some information on trilobites from the MT Isa
> District.
>

Hi Rodney,

All I know about the trilobites in the Mt. Isa is that you can find
them at Beetle Creek, but when I went there, it was a cattle station.
Guess it is private property and you would have to ask permission.
Actually the ones out in Beetle Creek may be really hard to get
because they are behind the ore processing facilities and in the
fallout area of the smelter. You have to get serious permission to get
out there, from my experience.

having said all that I don;t really know the ropes, I;m not a local to
the area. I'm pretty young and green too. :-) I'm sure there are other
more accessable trilobites somewhere there.


--- In fossilclubgroup@..., "rod_rex" <rod_rex@...> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
> I hope all is well.
> I am currently looking for a complete Coccolepis from Talbragar fish
> beds to complete my collection. Does any one know anyone who may want
> to sell one?
> i am also looking for a good AETHEOLEPIS also from talbragar.
>
> many thanks
>
> rodney
>
> P.S. can anyone tell me some information on trilobites from the MT Isa
> District.
>

Dear All,
I hope all is well.
I am currently looking for a complete Coccolepis from Talbragar fish
beds to complete my collection. Does any one know anyone who may want
to sell one?
i am also looking for a good AETHEOLEPIS also from talbragar.

many thanks

rodney

P.S. can anyone tell me some information on trilobites from the MT Isa
District.

---

To: fossilclubgroup@...
From: janewlands@...
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 11:35:03 +0000
Subject: [fossilclubgroup] Re: Australian Echnoids, Anyone have any for trade?

Try this bloke Chris Yee cjyee@datafast.net.au
He had a number of large Tertiary echinoid (sea urchin) shells at a
gem fair last year.

JN

--- In fossilclubgroup@yahoogroups.com.au, "cows_300" <cows_300@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
> Im looking for some Aussie Echnoids. I figure this is the best place
> to ask? Im looking for maybe 2-5 small ones from anywhere in
> australia. I have some Pleistocene Mammal Bones from FL. that i can
> trade. They are small and from a rare fissure fill.
> I have a few small rodent teeth, bird bones, mammal bones, toe bones
> and claw cores that im willing to send to anyone who has some echnoids
> for trade?
> Please let me know.
> PS. the bones are small, the toe, claw and teeth range from the .5-1cm
> range.
>

Try this bloke Chris Yee cjyee@...
He had a number of large Tertiary echinoid (sea urchin) shells at a
gem fair last year.

JN



--- In fossilclubgroup@..., "cows_300" <cows_300@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
> Im looking for some Aussie Echnoids. I figure this is the best place
> to ask? Im looking for maybe 2-5 small ones from anywhere in
> australia. I have some Pleistocene Mammal Bones from FL. that i can
> trade. They are small and from a rare fissure fill.
> I have a few small rodent teeth, bird bones, mammal bones, toe bones
> and claw cores that im willing to send to anyone who has some echnoids
> for trade?
> Please let me know.
> PS. the bones are small, the toe, claw and teeth range from the .5-1cm
> range.
>

Hello everyone,
Im looking for some Aussie Echnoids. I figure this is the best place
to ask? Im looking for maybe 2-5 small ones from anywhere in
australia. I have some Pleistocene Mammal Bones from FL. that i can
trade. They are small and from a rare fissure fill.
I have a few small rodent teeth, bird bones, mammal bones, toe bones
and claw cores that im willing to send to anyone who has some echnoids
for trade?
Please let me know.
PS. the bones are small, the toe, claw and teeth range from the .5-1cm
range.

Hello All,


Here, below, is what I thought was an interesting fossil club website I ran
across.

Like London, seems they have rhino teeth and other exotic things.  Rhinos,
mammoth and lions etc. were all once much much more common and widespread
than today.  Currently the grass in my backyard has gotten very long with
all the rain but I don't think my little "jungle" has any of these.


Best Regards,





John Byrnes

(Sydney)






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http://www.tampabayfossilclub.com




TAMPA, FLORIDA, February 1, 2008 - Before everything we know, prehistoric
people hunted mammoths, built large pyramid mounds along our coast, and
lived in fear of the saber cat, lion, and bear. On March 8th and 9th, 2008
the Florida State Fairgrounds Special Events Center will go back in time to
a different land, when the Tampa Bay Fossil Club presents, Florida, 10,000
B.C.!

FossilFest is Florida’s largest prehistoric show where the public can view
countless fossils found right here in Florida, as well as artifacts from
Florida’s prehistoric people. FossilFest features educational activities
for both children and adults designed to teach the public about Florida’s
exciting prehistoric past when saber-toothed cats, giant wolves, sharks the
size of school buses, and cavemen ruled Florida’s peninsula. Gems, minerals
and fossil shells, will also be on display. Vendors will be on hand to sell
and trade fossils found both here in Florida, and from all over the world.

"Our goal is to teach Floridians about the animals and prehistoric people
that were here long before us," says club president Michael Searle. "These
mammoths and lions and camels and rhinos lived right here where we live
today. Their fossil remains are everywhere in Florida."

On both Saturday and Sunday there will be presentations on Florida’s Ice
Age fossils and prehistoric people. There will also be seminars where
FossilFest attendees can learn how to legally hunt for Florida fossils,
identify what they find, and learn preservation techniques for these
antiquities.


One of the highlights of FossilFest is the children’s "Fossil Mine." Kids
will have the opportunity to dig through a sand pit to recover authentic
fossils donated by Tampa Bay Fossil Club members. It doesn’t end there,
club members then accompany the children to the "learning table" where they
will have their fossils explained, identified and bagged for the ride home.
That’s right, the kids will get to keep everything they find!

"It’s a wonderful "hands-on" learning experience for the children," says
Tampa Bay Fossil Club Director and Hillsborough County school teacher,
Patrick McGirk. "You just can’t believe how excited these kids get over
fossils. They don’t even realize they’re learning!"

There will be free door prizes, silent auctions, and raffle prizes
throughout the weekend.

"So many people these days are hooked on the Discovery Channel and the
History Channel and the Learning Channel. Well, that’s what we’re all
about," says Dr. Bob Sinibaldi, a former president of the Tampa Bay Fossil
Club and Pinellas County school teacher. "FossilFest will appeal to anyone
who frequents the Discovery Channel, loves science and nature, or has an
interest in history and outdoor adventure."

The Tampa Bay Fossil Club is a family oriented organization focusing on
paleontology, archaeology, and the natural sciences. Meetings are held
monthly at the University of South Florida’s Tampa campus and features
prominent speakers from many areas of science. The Tampa Bay Fossil Club
awards two annual scholarships to University of South Florida students
working in the field of paleontology and geology. The 21 year old club
hosts numerous field trips, gatherings, and adventures throughout the year.

FossilFest hours are from 9AM until 6PM on Saturday, and 9AM until 4PM on
Sunday. Admission is $5.00 for adults, children 12 and under are free. The
Ice Age returns!

Where: Florida State Fairgrounds, Special Events Center
When: March 8th and 9th 2008
Time: Saturday 9AM-6PM, Sunday 9AM - 4PM

Please visit us at www.tampabayfossilclub.com

Members of the media can take a "sneak peak" of FossilFest on Friday
evening, March 7th.

Michael Searle
(813) 909-9358 - Home
(813) 300-6129 - Cell
fossilnerd@...

Hello,


Snames are circular depressions on sandstone (well known atop of the
Hornsby Plateau extending from Maroota to West Head - and possibly also
some in the Gosford district).  They are postulated to be fire-scars of
long-maintained Aboriginal fire places.  Best ones often occur near
prominent carvings, such as ones thought to depict Baiame who created much
of the landscape etc., and some anthropologists (such as the creator of the
'sname' name) have wondered if at such likely sacred sites a fire was
next-to-always kept burning ,,, "Baiame's fire".  Well, I think that's how
the theory goes .. and it can only be a theory because if people are
responsible for these circular markings then there's obviously no written
records of any of it and only the stones can talk.

Snames are most often associated with polygonal weathering on the
sandstone, but conversely areas of polygonal weathering do not always nave
snames.

The 'type locality' of snames is on Elvina Track in Ku-Ring-Gai national
park north of Terrey Hills.

It costs $12 per car to enter the park (if a party is going, could car pool
before entering).

An excursion is being organised to visit the snames type locatity and the
originator of the name has been invited to come along and tell us about
them etc.

If you'd like to know more about the area, or contemplate coming, then
contact me and I can send a ca. 300 kb airphoto map of the area showing the
place in question.

Within the area of that map that can be sent there are actually three sites
of interest:

1) En route, at Frank Beckman Reserve, especially at the northern side of
McCarrs Creek Road and Yulong Avenue at Terry Hills, there's the
ferruginised top of the Hawkesbury Sandstone .. presumably a remnant of the
true natural Hornsby Plateau surface (and the polygonal jointed surface
being slighly erosional below that and hence at least a little later ??).
There was a 3m deep road cutting showing considerable ferruginisation of
sandstone top --- but I haven't been there for a long time so haven't
lately checked what may still be viewable there.

2) The track shown that's leading south from the toll gate is called the
"Centre" track I think, and it soon rises to the top of the sandstone
topography and has polygonal jointing there too (but little by way of
Aboriginal engravings and said to be hard to find).  For anyone who wanted
to see just polygonal jointing without paying the park admission that's one
place to do so, and there may be others.

3) On the photo you can clearly see the head of the Coal and Candle Creek
drainage extending as far east as Elvina Track.
Somewhere along that, probably close to the sealevel end, should be the
Narrabeen/Hawkesbury formational boundary.  And that is the area I have
mentioned several times before as wanting to go to in order to look for
more of the 'pseudo-tree' vertical ferruginous concretions such as at Box
Head .. because as I was informed by member of the Club, another club
member years ago noted seeing an upright fossil 'tree' or 'stump' here.
From what we know now I suspect it could turn out to be another place for
the vertical concretions.

The coming trip, probably in March, will fit in Elvina track only on the day.

The visiting of the head of Coal and Candle Creek, long overdue, to look
for 'trees', will be on some other date.


Regards,



John Byrnes

Hello everyone... In my research as an avid amateur, I've come across
a few documents of interest for finding fossils in and around Sydney:

- "Finding Fossils In Sydney", Peter S. Watson
- "Geological excursion guide to the sea cliffs north of Sydney", Greg
Retallack
- "Sydney's Fossil Treasures", Paul Willis
- Pack of assorted info on the Mulbring quarry

Apologies if this material has surfaced in your discussions before
(I'm new to the list) - or if any of you are the authors, lol!

This material was found at the museum here in Sydney, where the staff
was happy to provide copies - so I assume it is all in the public
domain for personal use. (Alert me if you think otherwise, thanks.)

So, I'll bring some copies to share whenever I make it to a meeting.
Send me a personal message with your postal details if you'd like me
to mail you copies.

James :)

Hi Rodney,







Thanks.


John Adamek, Edscope Enterprises, recently sold a fossil fish stated to be
from Picton (as below).

If you can trace the site back through him I'd be pleased to go and have a
look sometime ... re potential for finding any more, and re what part of
the strat sequence it is in.  It probably is Ashfield Shale as stated.

Fish in the Ashfield Shale are pretty rare and one-off events, so chances
of finding more are very slim .. although repeat finds have been reported
from the Bowral brickworks quarry.

Dealers often will not reveal where they get things from .. however what
one can always try doing is to send them an email asking that one's
message/query be sent on from them to the collector/seller and describing
therein a wish to visit either the fossil's exact site or else the general
area, and way, and asking for help/advice.  If done there might or might
not be any reply direct(?).  It could not hurt to try doing something like
that.

And/or try Australian Museum and Geological Survey and ask if
paleaontological catalogues give any localities for Ashfield Shale better
than just "Picton".  If so then they might be clues too.

Fresh Ashfield Shale is dark grey to black and it rapidly (in quarries)
breaks down into tiny splinters.  Hence fossil fish in shale cannot
naturally weather out.  The sparse indurated (by siderite) bands can,
however, weather out .. and that might be how the fish in question got to
market.  The fossil appears to be in a block of some some thickness and at
one place broken at 90 degrees.

So my first suspicious would be that it's from natural outcrop, rather than
from a quarry.

But also note the Maldon cement works lies east of Picton.   It may be
worth contacting them too, as cement making loves shale .. shale and
limestone makes clinker, makes cement.  So they could have someone who well
knows about shale around that area.

Cheers,



John




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http://www.fossilmall.com/EDCOPE_Enterprises/fish/fishfossil44/fossilfish-44
.htm

Triassic Fish FossilSize (25.4 mm = 1 inch) Fossil Fish: 50 mm long,
Matrix: 100 mm by 120 mm. Fossil Site: Ashfield Shale, Wianamatta Group,
Picton, New South Wales, Australia ...
www.fossilmall.com/EDCOPE_Enterprises/fish/fishfossil44/fossilfish-44.htm

Rare Ashfield Shale Triassic Fish Fossil

Actinopterygii indet.
Osteichthyes

Geological Time: Middle Triassic, Anisian Stage (~210 m.y.a.)

Size (25.4 mm = 1 inch) Fossil Fish: 50 mm long, Matrix: 100 mm by 120 mm

Fossil Site: Ashfield Shale, Wianamatta Group, Picton, New South Wales,
Australia

Fossil Code: AAF265

Price: $295.00 - sold

Description: A diverse number of actionopterygian fish have been described
from the Triassic continental sediments around Sydney, with the youngest
coming from the Wianamatta Group. Many of them are of uncertain taxonomic
status due to poor preservation of cranial features. This specimen is
missing the anteriormost portion of the head, but the balance is preserved
in exquisite detail. Several sites around Sydney were quarried for shale
and clay, and are known as the St Peter’s quarries, of which there were
some 20-odd. They have been a rich source of fossils, the most famous of
which is a labyrinthodont known as Paracyclotosaurus. The lower part of the
Ashfield Sahle, in addition to amphibians and fish includes insects and
bivalves indicative of a lacustrine environment. The stratigraphically
higher parts of the shale provides evidence of brackish to shallow marine
conditions indicative of transgression of the sea. Although part of the
head is missing, the balance of the specimen preserves detail with amazing
fidelity. Fe specimens ever become available, with even fewer being this
intact and complete.






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At 10:17 PM 2/02/08 -0800, you wrote:

>Hi John,
>I have an orriginal report on the fossil from that
>Railway ballast quarry at Gosford, If you give me some
>time as i am currently in the Mt Isa Field Office
>I can email a PDF to you.
>
>Also i recently purchased a fish from Picton of the
>internet but no details came with it, do you know of
>any fish localities in the picton area?
>
>Fossils from Sydney are becomming harder to source if
>any one has any they would like to sell... please let
>me know.
>
>Many thanks
>
>Rodney



<SNIP>

Interesting information, if anyone finds out whether its possible to
collect fish there be sure to post it on here! mabey the F.C can
have a field trip there!


--- In fossilclubgroup@..., Rodney Berrell
<rod_rex@...> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
> I have an orriginal report on the fossil from that
> Railway ballast quarry at Gosford, If you give me some
> time as i am currently in the Mt Isa Field Office
> I can email a PDF to you.
>
> Also i recently purchased a fish from Picton of the
> internet but no details came with it, do you know of
> any fish localities in the picton area?
>
> Fossils from Sydney are becomming harder to source if
> any one has any they would like to sell... please let
> me know.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Rodney
>
> --- John <john.mail@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Rodney,
> >
> > Yes I am aware that people have been there since the
> > 1800s and have looked.
> >
> > But I don't know of any reports on the site.
> >
> > Or if the originally published drawing of the face,
> > and stratigraphic
> > labelling, allows for the fossil-bearing lens to be
> > recognised today .. or
> > allows for any reasoning that it was totally
> > extracted (i.e. cannot extend
> > further into the hill), or if there are any other
> > railway cuttings nearby
> > that show anything.
> >
> > Major reason I don't know is that I haven't been
> > there yet.
> >
> > It seems that it could be a relatively very easy
> > site to get to .. being
> > right near a station on a railway line with quick
> > train from Sydney.
> >
> > I tried asking from Council about it .. in case of
> > any access restrictions
> > .. but could find nobody at Gosford Council who had
> > ever heard of "Blunts
> > Quarry".
> >
> > There is also a much bigger quarry at Gosford, near
> > (SSE of) the Court House.
> >
> > This was the sawn stone quarry of the Hawkesbury
> > Sandstone Co.
> >
> > They moved out of Gosford because of the increasing
> > traffic congestion etc.
> > making it not a good place any longer for operating
> > a quarry ... and maybe
> > also because they were approaching the edge of their
> > leaseholding, but I
> > don't know that for sure.
> >
> > And the company also changed its name from
> > Hawkesbury Sandstone Co. to
> > Gosford Quarries.
> >
> > I'd guess the fish horizon would be somewhat below
> > the floor of the quarry
> > near the courthouse .. which quarry faces are still
> > accessible and luxury
> > highrise housing has been built in that quarry too.
> > Again I haven't been
> > there, to that quarry either .. and have merely seen
> > photos of the new
> > housing development there.
> >
> > Martin Rosser had been interested to go on the
> > excursion to check out the
> > "fossil trees" that were published on originally in
> > the creationist
> > journal, at Box Head in Bouddi National Park, but I
> > don't think he was able
> > to make it on the day choosen.
> >
> > If there is anyone interested in the fossil trees of
> > Fennel Bay I am hoping
> > to do more on that this year and would like to
> > combine effort with anyone
> > interested ... please see:
> >
> >
> http://www.lachlanhunter.deadsetfreestuff.com/JB/fennell-bay1.htm
> >
> > Note also the story of a connection with a Giant
> > Goanna spirit which came
> > from Heaven and killed people (petrified them to
> > what we call the fossil
> > trees?) as punishment for them having killed lice.
> >
> > It may be difficult at this point in time to work
> > out why killing lice is
> > so bad as to be a mortal sin.
> >
> > But the wording is as recorded by early missionary
> > in the area and he seems
> > to have been an assiduous records-maker.
> >
> > He had set out to record and study the local
> > language of Lake Macquarie,
> > then called Awaba Lake.
> >
> > As I have written at fennell-bay1.htm, "When the
> > missionary L.E Threlkeld
> > in the 1830s recorded the tradition about an
> > immense goanna or iguana it likely suggested nothing
> > in particular.
> > Nowadays it may remind one of the Megalania".
> >
> > The Megalania was three times the size of a modern
> > Komodo Dragon and almost
> > certainly lived contemporaneous and in the same
> > areas as humans and could
> > 'punish' humans mortally (eat them for example!).
> >
> > But can the megafauna be "remembered" in any way
> > 'culturally'.
> >
> > Is it possible, or proven anywhere in the world,
> > that cultures can preserve
> > genuine memory/record of vanished life forms as old
> > as the aussie megafauna?
> >
> > As yet I have not seen any 'proven' cases of this
> > sort of thing, from
> > anywhere.
> >
> > But there's plenty of speculation about (as Googling
> > will show *S*).  And
> > quite likely persons like Mr Rex Gilroy and other
> > 'cryptozoologists' are
> > still having sightings of the giant lizard (and UFOs
> > too?) in the Wattagan
> > mountain ranges west of the Lake.  Rex has probably
> > got dinosaurs in this
> > backyard and finds footprints of them in the
> > sandstone.
> >
> > I wonder how many are interested in that sort of
> > thing compared with
> > 'orthodox' palaeontology?
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> > At 06:50 PM 2/02/08 -0800, you wrote:
> >
> > >Dear All,
> >
> > >The Australian museum paleo staff have looked at
> > the
> > >gosford site which did exist in a rail corp ballast
> > >quarry north of Gosford. I have been told that
> > there
> > >is nothing left there, but you never know. The fish
> > >from the quarry was written up in memoirs of the
> > >Geological survey of NSW. Palaeontology Memoirs
> > 1895?
> > >By woodward. the site is also brefly mentioned in
> > Paul
> > >Willis book Digging Deep time.
> > >
> > >
> > >The fossil dealer in Gosford is Martin Rosser of
> > >Willyama AKA Geodiscoveries.
> > >
> > >Rodney
> > >
> > >--- "john.mail@..."
> > ><john.mail@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >---------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Chris,
> > >
> > >I still haven't joined the Fossil Club.
> > >
> > >I want to but I am awful with filling in forms and
> > >snail-mailing anything.   If you, or my secretary,
> > >would do that part for me I'll hand over the cold
> > >cash.
> > >
> > >As for Gosford I have never been to it yet myself
> > but
> > >am told that it is very close to the railway
> > station
> > >and that the fossil bed was near the base of the
> > >quarry ...  I suppose just a bit above the level of
> > >the railway line.
> > >
> > >Who owns the quarry now and what the exposure there
> > is
> > >like I have no idea of.
> > >
> > >The quickest way of determining these things would
> > be
> >
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>
>
>
>
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Jill,
Sounds like a lot of fun...must get a wiggle on and send in my
membership form...its been sitting on my desk for a week now!
whoops, will send it in soon.
A question for those "experts"; how many sites (approx) will we be
going to?

Thanks
Chris

--- In fossilclubgroup@..., jill harrison
<jillyonly1@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
> I'm Jill, a rather new member of the Fossil Club. We found
trilobites and other forms of fossils down in Yass.. I have such
limited knowledge of the technical jargon, you'll need to speask
with some of the "experts" We have access to some private
properties, the information will all be there in the past issues of
the fossil club magazine too, which you may be able to get hold of
if you're a member noiw. I am a real beginner, have belonged to the
group for about 2 years, not much idea of the geology etc. but the
finds never fail to amaze me. I really like being in the group
although I don't get to go to everything, so ask the other people
and I'll keep my eye out for other messages. Can always ring the
trip organiser too. Thanks for you email, Jill
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: cows_300 <cows_300@...>
> To: fossilclubgroup@...
> Sent: Saturday, 2 February, 2008 2:37:31 PM
> Subject: [fossilclubgroup] Re: Hello from Jill
>
> Yeah...im interested in coming!!, what sort of fossils do you hunt
for?
> and how many days?
>
> Thanks
>
> --- In fossilclubgroup@ yahoogroups. com.au, "jillyonly1"
> <jillyonly1@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> > I'm enquiring about the Fossil Grous's trip to Yass at Easter. I
> went
> > with the group the year before last, it was a great weekend. Can
> anyone
> > let me know what the numbers may be like for this year. I would
be
> > interested in car sharing if that's an option, I can drive my
car, I
> > live near the city or get a lift with someone else. I stayed in
one
> of
> > the old hotels in Yass,very good value for only $20 for a single
> room
> > with shared facilities. Feedback please?
> > Jill Harrison
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>       Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email
address.
> www.yahoo7.com.au/y7mail
>

Hi John,
I have an orriginal report on the fossil from that
Railway ballast quarry at Gosford, If you give me some
time as i am currently in the Mt Isa Field Office
I can email a PDF to you.

Also i recently purchased a fish from Picton of the
internet but no details came with it, do you know of
any fish localities in the picton area?

Fossils from Sydney are becomming harder to source if
any one has any they would like to sell... please let
me know.

Many thanks

Rodney

--- John <john.mail@...> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Rodney,
>
> Yes I am aware that people have been there since the
> 1800s and have looked.
>
> But I don't know of any reports on the site.
>
> Or if the originally published drawing of the face,
> and stratigraphic
> labelling, allows for the fossil-bearing lens to be
> recognised today .. or
> allows for any reasoning that it was totally
> extracted (i.e. cannot extend
> further into the hill), or if there are any other
> railway cuttings nearby
> that show anything.
>
> Major reason I don't know is that I haven't been
> there yet.
>
> It seems that it could be a relatively very easy
> site to get to .. being
> right near a station on a railway line with quick
> train from Sydney.
>
> I tried asking from Council about it .. in case of
> any access restrictions
> .. but could find nobody at Gosford Council who had
> ever heard of "Blunts
> Quarry".
>
> There is also a much bigger quarry at Gosford, near
> (SSE of) the Court House.
>
> This was the sawn stone quarry of the Hawkesbury
> Sandstone Co.
>
> They moved out of Gosford because of the increasing
> traffic congestion etc.
> making it not a good place any longer for operating
> a quarry ... and maybe
> also because they were approaching the edge of their
> leaseholding, but I
> don't know that for sure.
>
> And the company also changed its name from
> Hawkesbury Sandstone Co. to
> Gosford Quarries.
>
> I'd guess the fish horizon would be somewhat below
> the floor of the quarry
> near the courthouse .. which quarry faces are still
> accessible and luxury
> highrise housing has been built in that quarry too.
> Again I haven't been
> there, to that quarry either .. and have merely seen
> photos of the new
> housing development there.
>
> Martin Rosser had been interested to go on the
> excursion to check out the
> "fossil trees" that were published on originally in
> the creationist
> journal, at Box Head in Bouddi National Park, but I
> don't think he was able
> to make it on the day choosen.
>
> If there is anyone interested in the fossil trees of
> Fennel Bay I am hoping
> to do more on that this year and would like to
> combine effort with anyone
> interested ... please see:
>
>
http://www.lachlanhunter.deadsetfreestuff.com/JB/fennell-bay1.htm
>
> Note also the story of a connection with a Giant
> Goanna spirit which came
> from Heaven and killed people (petrified them to
> what we call the fossil
> trees?) as punishment for them having killed lice.
>
> It may be difficult at this point in time to work
> out why killing lice is
> so bad as to be a mortal sin.
>
> But the wording is as recorded by early missionary
> in the area and he seems
> to have been an assiduous records-maker.
>
> He had set out to record and study the local
> language of Lake Macquarie,
> then called Awaba Lake.
>
> As I have written at fennell-bay1.htm, "When the
> missionary L.E Threlkeld
> in the 1830s recorded the tradition about an
> immense goanna or iguana it likely suggested nothing
> in particular.
> Nowadays it may remind one of the Megalania".
>
> The Megalania was three times the size of a modern
> Komodo Dragon and almost
> certainly lived contemporaneous and in the same
> areas as humans and could
> 'punish' humans mortally (eat them for example!).
>
> But can the megafauna be "remembered" in any way
> 'culturally'.
>
> Is it possible, or proven anywhere in the world,
> that cultures can preserve
> genuine memory/record of vanished life forms as old
> as the aussie megafauna?
>
> As yet I have not seen any 'proven' cases of this
> sort of thing, from
> anywhere.
>
> But there's plenty of speculation about (as Googling
> will show *S*).  And
> quite likely persons like Mr Rex Gilroy and other
> 'cryptozoologists' are
> still having sightings of the giant lizard (and UFOs
> too?) in the Wattagan
> mountain ranges west of the Lake.  Rex has probably
> got dinosaurs in this
> backyard and finds footprints of them in the
> sandstone.
>
> I wonder how many are interested in that sort of
> thing compared with
> 'orthodox' palaeontology?
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> At 06:50 PM 2/02/08 -0800, you wrote:
>
> >Dear All,
>
> >The Australian museum paleo staff have looked at
> the
> >gosford site which did exist in a rail corp ballast
> >quarry north of Gosford. I have been told that
> there
> >is nothing left there, but you never know. The fish
> >from the quarry was written up in memoirs of the
> >Geological survey of NSW. Palaeontology Memoirs
> 1895?
> >By woodward. the site is also brefly mentioned in
> Paul
> >Willis book Digging Deep time.
> >
> >
> >The fossil dealer in Gosford is Martin Rosser of
> >Willyama AKA Geodiscoveries.
> >
> >Rodney
> >
> >--- "john.mail@..."
> ><john.mail@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> >---------------------------------
> >
> >
> >Hi Chris,
> >
> >I still haven't joined the Fossil Club.
> >
> >I want to but I am awful with filling in forms and
> >snail-mailing anything.   If you, or my secretary,
> >would do that part for me I'll hand over the cold
> >cash.
> >
> >As for Gosford I have never been to it yet myself
> but
> >am told that it is very close to the railway
> station
> >and that the fossil bed was near the base of the
> >quarry ...  I suppose just a bit above the level of
> >the railway line.
> >
> >Who owns the quarry now and what the exposure there
> is
> >like I have no idea of.
> >
> >The quickest way of determining these things would
> be
>
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Hi Rodney,

Yes I am aware that people have been there since the 1800s and have looked.

But I don't know of any reports on the site.

Or if the originally published drawing of the face, and stratigraphic
labelling, allows for the fossil-bearing lens to be recognised today .. or
allows for any reasoning that it was totally extracted (i.e. cannot extend
further into the hill), or if there are any other railway cuttings nearby
that show anything.

Major reason I don't know is that I haven't been there yet.

It seems that it could be a relatively very easy site to get to .. being
right near a station on a railway line with quick train from Sydney.

I tried asking from Council about it .. in case of any access restrictions
.. but could find nobody at Gosford Council who had ever heard of "Blunts
Quarry".

There is also a much bigger quarry at Gosford, near (SSE of) the Court House.

This was the sawn stone quarry of the Hawkesbury Sandstone Co.

They moved out of Gosford because of the increasing traffic congestion etc.
making it not a good place any longer for operating a quarry ... and maybe
also because they were approaching the edge of their leaseholding, but I
don't know that for sure.

And the company also changed its name from Hawkesbury Sandstone Co. to
Gosford Quarries.

I'd guess the fish horizon would be somewhat below the floor of the quarry
near the courthouse .. which quarry faces are still accessible and luxury
highrise housing has been built in that quarry too.  Again I haven't been
there, to that quarry either .. and have merely seen photos of the new
housing development there.

Martin Rosser had been interested to go on the excursion to check out the
"fossil trees" that were published on originally in the creationist
journal, at Box Head in Bouddi National Park, but I don't think he was able
to make it on the day choosen.

If there is anyone interested in the fossil trees of Fennel Bay I am hoping
to do more on that this year and would like to combine effort with anyone
interested ... please see:

http://www.lachlanhunter.deadsetfreestuff.com/JB/fennell-bay1.htm

Note also the story of a connection with a Giant Goanna spirit which came
from Heaven and killed people (petrified them to what we call the fossil
trees?) as punishment for them having killed lice.

It may be difficult at this point in time to work out why killing lice is
so bad as to be a mortal sin.

But the wording is as recorded by early missionary in the area and he seems
to have been an assiduous records-maker.

He had set out to record and study the local language of Lake Macquarie,
then called Awaba Lake.

As I have written at fennell-bay1.htm, "When the missionary L.E Threlkeld
in the 1830s recorded the tradition about an
immense goanna or iguana it likely suggested nothing in particular.
Nowadays it may remind one of the Megalania".

The Megalania was three times the size of a modern Komodo Dragon and almost
certainly lived contemporaneous and in the same areas as humans and could
'punish' humans mortally (eat them for example!).

But can the megafauna be "remembered" in any way 'culturally'.

Is it possible, or proven anywhere in the world, that cultures can preserve
genuine memory/record of vanished life forms as old as the aussie megafauna?

As yet I have not seen any 'proven' cases of this sort of thing, from
anywhere.

But there's plenty of speculation about (as Googling will show *S*).  And
quite likely persons like Mr Rex Gilroy and other 'cryptozoologists' are
still having sightings of the giant lizard (and UFOs too?) in the Wattagan
mountain ranges west of the Lake.  Rex has probably got dinosaurs in this
backyard and finds footprints of them in the sandstone.

I wonder how many are interested in that sort of thing compared with
'orthodox' palaeontology?


Cheers,



John




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


At 06:50 PM 2/02/08 -0800, you wrote:

>Dear All,

>The Australian museum paleo staff have looked at the
>gosford site which did exist in a rail corp ballast
>quarry north of Gosford. I have been told that there
>is nothing left there, but you never know. The fish
>from the quarry was written up in memoirs of the
>Geological survey of NSW. Palaeontology Memoirs 1895?
>By woodward. the site is also brefly mentioned in Paul
>Willis book Digging Deep time.
>
>
>The fossil dealer in Gosford is Martin Rosser of
>Willyama AKA Geodiscoveries.
>
>Rodney
>
>--- "john.mail@..."
><john.mail@...> wrote:



>---------------------------------
>
>
>Hi Chris,
>
>I still haven't joined the Fossil Club.
>
>I want to but I am awful with filling in forms and
>snail-mailing anything.   If you, or my secretary,
>would do that part for me I'll hand over the cold
>cash.
>
>As for Gosford I have never been to it yet myself but
>am told that it is very close to the railway station
>and that the fossil bed was near the base of the
>quarry ...  I suppose just a bit above the level of
>the railway line.
>
>Who owns the quarry now and what the exposure there is
>like I have no idea of.
>
>The quickest way of determining these things would be
>just to hop on a train and go and have a look I think.
>
>I've written to Gosford Council about it but they are
>unaware of anybody at all being intereted in it.
>
>There, however, is at least one local man, Peter
>Adderley at Gosford who is very interested in geology
>- AND there is also a gem and mineral and fossil
>seller/displayer in the area (sorry I do not know the
>name) AND somebody else told me there is a woman
>locally who is interested in the question of whether
>any more fish may remain unbattered and pristine there
>at rest in their shaley bed ... but again am sorry to
>say I do not have here name either.
>
>The Mines Department (now merged with Forests and Fish
>and Ag as Primary Industries) has a service called
>"Ask Bill the Geo" ---- ask any geological question to
>the service (it's on their webpage) and the wheels may
>grind and a satisfactory answer perhaps be
>forthcoming.
>
>And regaring all your "so much more that i couldnt
>even explain to you!" sites ... if you email any views
>I'd be interested to maybe add them to the geo-sites
>directory.
>
>I think I'll be adding some more  'forms of
>ferruginisation' pics and ideas ..... sure they aren't
>fossils, but interesting to speculate on how they
>formed anyway.
>
>I'm interested in all the weird and wonderful ideas
>the public has on how geological features form.
>
>There is one man (known as Buzz) who maintains that
>the polygonal weathering found along the plateau top
>on Hawkesbury Sandstone is the actual
>preserved/fossilised skin of the Rainbow Serpent.
>
>Cheers,
>
>
>John
>
>
>
>
>On Fri Jan 18 11:50 , 'cows_300' sent:
>
>Nice Info John,
>
>Great site and Pictures, really interesting. I have
>seen so many
>different structures in the Hawkesbury Sandstone, its
>such an
>amazing formation...so much cross bedding, iron
>stains, concretions,
>spherical iron stained bedding plains and so much more
>that i
>couldnt even explain to you!
>
>Thanks for the info and a great read!
>
>When are you going to the fish quarry? i would love to
>get in there
>and have a look aswell, is it a part of the fossil
>Club? when are
>you planning on going?
>
>Regards Chris
>
>--- In fossilclubgroup@..., John
>wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>> An excurion took place recently to see the fossil
>trees
>photographed in an
>> article by creationist geologist Tasman Walker.
>>
>> The site is Box Hill, Bouddi Peninsula.
>>
>> The existence of the Box Head "fossil trees"
>structures was first
>published
>> on in 2003, including a photo of them taken by
>Andrew Taylor.
>>
>> The cyclindrical objects photographed certainly look
>like
>> sideritised/haematitic trunks.
>>
>> However, many other vertical ferruginous cylindrical
>structures
>were found
>> to be present in the sandstone there and from the
>range of
>features it is
>> seen that they are definitely vertical concretionary
>structures,
>not trees.
>>
>> Photos may be see under "GOSFORD" at
>>
>http://www.lachlanhunter.deadsetfreestuff.com/JB/geo-sitesG-I.htm
>>
>> Still to be visited is Coal and Candle Creek on the
>other side of
>the
>> Hawkesbury where a fossil stump was discovered by a
>member of the
>Fossil
>> Club many years ago.
>>
>> The Coal and Candle Creek position (near the
>tidewater limit) is
>likely at
>> the same or very similar stratigraphic level near
>the top of the
>Narrabeen
>> Group and first guess would now be that it is
>another
>occurrence/exposure
>> of these vertical ferruginous cylinders.
>>
>> I do not know of any other occurrences of similar
>things in other
>parts of
>> the world .. does anybody else?
>>
>> Also planned for 2008 is a revisiting of the famous
>fossil fish
>beds at
>> Gosford. I've never been to that quarry myself yet.
>It is known
>as Blunts
>> Quarry.

<snip>

Dear All,
The Australian museum paleo staff have looked at the
gosford site which did exist in a rail corp ballast
quarry north of Gosford. I have been told that there
is nothing left there, but you never know. The fish
from the quarry was written up in memoirs of the
Geological survey of NSW. Palaeontology Memoirs 1895?
By woodward. the site is also brefly mentioned in Paul
Willis book Digging Deep time.


The fossil dealer in Gosford is Martin Rosser of
Willyama AKA Geodiscoveries.

Rodney

--- "john.mail@..."
<john.mail@...> wrote:


---------------------------------


Hi Chris,

I still haven't joined the Fossil Club.

I want to but I am awful with filling in forms and
snail-mailing anything.   If you, or my secretary,
would do that part for me I'll hand over the cold
cash.

As for Gosford I have never been to it yet myself but
am told that it is very close to the railway station
and that the fossil bed was near the base of the
quarry ...  I suppose just a bit above the level of
the railway line.

Who owns the quarry now and what the exposure there is
like I have no idea of.

The quickest way of determining these things would be
just to hop on a train and go and have a look I think.

I've written to Gosford Council about it but they are
unaware of anybody at all being intereted in it.

There, however, is at least one local man, Peter
Adderley at Gosford who is very interested in geology
- AND there is also a gem and mineral and fossil
seller/displayer in the area (sorry I do not know the
name) AND somebody else told me there is a woman
locally who is interested in the question of whether
any more fish may remain unbattered and pristine there
at rest in their shaley bed ... but again am sorry to
say I do not have here name either.

The Mines Department (now merged with Forests and Fish
and Ag as Primary Industries) has a service called
"Ask Bill the Geo" ---- ask any geological question to
the service (it's on their webpage) and the wheels may
grind and a satisfactory answer perhaps be
forthcoming.

And regaring all your "so much more that i couldnt
even explain to you!" sites ... if you email any views
I'd be interested to maybe add them to the geo-sites
directory.

I think I'll be adding some more  'forms of
ferruginisation' pics and ideas ..... sure they aren't
fossils, but interesting to speculate on how they
formed anyway.

I'm interested in all the weird and wonderful ideas
the public has on how geological features form.

There is one man (known as Buzz) who maintains that
the polygonal weathering found along the plateau top
on Hawkesbury Sandstone is the actual
preserved/fossilised skin of the Rainbow Serpent.

Cheers,


John




On Fri Jan 18 11:50 , 'cows_300' sent:

Nice Info John,

Great site and Pictures, really interesting. I have
seen so many
different structures in the Hawkesbury Sandstone, its
such an
amazing formation...so much cross bedding, iron
stains, concretions,
spherical iron stained bedding plains and so much more
that i
couldnt even explain to you!

Thanks for the info and a great read!

When are you going to the fish quarry? i would love to
get in there
and have a look aswell, is it a part of the fossil
Club? when are
you planning on going?

Regards Chris

--- In fossilclubgroup@..., John
wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
> An excurion took place recently to see the fossil
trees
photographed in an
> article by creationist geologist Tasman Walker.
>
> The site is Box Hill, Bouddi Peninsula.
>
> The existence of the Box Head "fossil trees"
structures was first
published
> on in 2003, including a photo of them taken by
Andrew Taylor.
>
> The cyclindrical objects photographed certainly look
like
> sideritised/haematitic trunks.
>
> However, many other vertical ferruginous cylindrical
structures
were found
> to be present in the sandstone there and from the
range of
features it is
> seen that they are definitely vertical concretionary
structures,
not trees.
>
> Photos may be see under "GOSFORD" at
>
http://www.lachlanhunter.deadsetfreestuff.com/JB/geo-sitesG-I.htm
>
> Still to be visited is Coal and Candle Creek on the
other side of
the
> Hawkesbury where a fossil stump was discovered by a
member of the
Fossil
> Club many years ago.
>
> The Coal and Candle Creek position (near the
tidewater limit) is
likely at
> the same or very similar stratigraphic level near
the top of the
Narrabeen
> Group and first guess would now be that it is
another
occurrence/exposure
> of these vertical ferruginous cylinders.
>
> I do not know of any other occurrences of similar
things in other
parts of
> the world .. does anybody else?
>
> Also planned for 2008 is a revisiting of the famous
fossil fish
beds at
> Gosford. I've never been to that quarry myself yet.
It is known
as Blunts
> Quarry.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
> John Byrnes
>
> (LachlanHunter Associates, Sydney)










      
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Nice Info John,

Great site and Pictures, really interesting. I have seen so many
different structures in the Hawkesbury Sandstone, its such an
amazing formation...so much cross bedding, iron stains, concretions,
spherical iron stained bedding plains and so much more that i
couldnt even explain to you!

Thanks for the info and a great read!

When are you going to the fish quarry? i would love to get in there
and have a look aswell, is it a part of the fossil Club? when are
you planning on going?

Regards Chris

--- In fossilclubgroup@..., John
wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
> An excurion took place recently to see the fossil trees
photographed in an
> article by creationist geologist Tasman Walker.
>
> The site is Box Hill, Bouddi Peninsula.
>
> The existence of the Box Head "fossil trees" structures was first
published
> on in 2003, including a photo of them taken by Andrew Taylor.
>
> The cyclindrical objects photographed certainly look like
> sideritised/haematitic trunks.
>
> However, many other vertical ferruginous cylindrical structures
were found
> to be present in the sandstone there and from the range of
features it is
> seen that they are definitely vertical concretionary structures,
not trees.
>
> Photos may be see under "GOSFORD" at
> http://www.lachlanhunter.deadsetfreestuff.com/JB/geo-sitesG-I.htm
>
> Still to be visited is Coal and Candle Creek on the other side of
the
> Hawkesbury where a fossil stump was discovered by a member of the
Fossil
> Club many years ago.
>
> The Coal and Candle Creek position (near the tidewater limit) is
likely at
> the same or very similar stratigraphic level near the top of the
Narrabeen
> Group and first guess would now be that it is another
occurrence/exposure
> of these vertical ferruginous cylinders.
>
> I do not know of any other occurrences of similar things in other
parts of
> the world .. does anybody else?
>
> Also planned for 2008 is a revisiting of the famous fossil fish
beds at
> Gosford. I've never been to that quarry myself yet. It is known
as Blunts
> Quarry.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
> John Byrnes
>
> (LachlanHunter Associates, Sydney)

Yeah...im interested in coming!!, what sort of fossils do you hunt for?
and how many days?

Thanks

--- In fossilclubgroup@..., "jillyonly1"
<jillyonly1@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
> I'm enquiring about the Fossil Grous's trip to Yass at Easter. I
went
> with the group the year before last, it was a great weekend. Can
anyone
> let me know what the numbers may be like for this year. I would be
> interested in car sharing if that's an option, I can drive my car, I
> live near the city or get a lift with someone else. I stayed in one
of
> the old hotels in Yass,very good value for only $20 for a single
room
> with shared facilities. Feedback please?
> Jill Harrison
>

Thanks a lot Albert!

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>   Hi Chris
>   ·      If you are over 18 year of age, you pay separately - $15.
>   ·        If you are under 18 year of age, you can go under the
family rate of $20. But if you are working, you will need to pay $15.
>   ·        If you are a student 16 year of age and over and are
going to High School, TAFE or Uni, it is $10.
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>   Each person will need to pay $2.50 insurance whether you pay
family, student or separately.
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> I hope this is a little clearer.
>
> Albert
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> cows_300 <cows_300@...> wrote:                               Hey,
this is directed at the main person for the fossilclub NSW
>  Im filling out my Membership form and I will post it tommorow
>  but...one question, if I want to pay for my dad and me can I pay
under
>  a family? 20$ + 5$ insurance???? or is it 10 for me and 15 for
him and
>  5 insurance?
>
>  Sorry a bit confused
>
>  Thanks!
>
>  Chris
>
>
>
>
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Hi everyone,
I'm enquiring about the Fossil Grous's trip to Yass at Easter. I went
with the group the year before last, it was a great weekend. Can anyone
let me know what the numbers may be like for this year. I would be
interested in car sharing if that's an option, I can drive my car, I
live near the city or get a lift with someone else. I stayed in one of
the old hotels in Yass,very good value for only $20 for a single room
with shared facilities. Feedback please?
Jill Harrison

Hey, this is directed at the main person for the fossilclub NSW
Im filling out my Membership form and I will post it tommorow
but...one question, if I want to pay for my dad and me can I pay under
a family? 20$ + 5$ insurance???? or is it 10 for me and 15 for him and
5 insurance?

Sorry a bit confused

Thanks!

Chris

Hello,


Re envisaged excursion to visit rock features at Elvina Track later this
year, in late Feb or thereafter ( .... view snames or circular fire scars,
smaller circles that are likely concretions, polygonal jointing and
Aboriginal carvings thought inter alia to preserve some 'astronomical'
ideas ... ) the continued planning for this suggests by now that about six
people are interested in going.  (Trip will most likely be post-Feb)

Tessa Corkill has been arranging things and had gotten from Michael Barry,
co-author with John Clegg re the "snames" name, and also from John,
responses that each would be interested in attending.  Seeing it would be
very good to have the originator/s of the fire theory present we'll likely
organise a time that best suits Michael/John and a majority of those
potentially interested.

We've incidentally been communicating to any others we think might be
interested that we are keen to encourage more interest in geological
heritage, and also cross-disciplinary co-operation of any sort.

Tessa is off to Canberra and will work out a final time after she gets back.

If you know of anyone else who might like to come to visit these features
then please let Tessa or myself know.


Thanks,



John Byrnes

Hello

Found this one at allandale along with lots of eurydesma some other
clams and a few gastropods.
Does anyone know what it is? extreamly confused

Thanks
Chris

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Hey Everyone
I figured with your expertise i might be able to find some places
(such as road cuts, Hills, cliffs ect) where it is possible to find
trilobites?
I know there are large Devonian and Sil deposits south and west but
can anyone give me specific locations?
Love trilobits and thought they would make a neat addition to my
collection, I also want to expand my collection into different time
epochs...all i have is permian and triassic at the moment.
Also while on the topic of places to hunt, does anyone know any
carboniforous exposures, marine or terrestrial near the hunter valley?

Thanks a lot People!!

Regards Chris

Hey, this is directed at the main person for the fossilclub NSW
Im filling out my Membership form and I will post it tommorow
but...one question, if I want to pay for my dad and me can I pay under
a family? 20$ + 5$ insurance???? or is it 10 for me and 15 for him and
5 insurance?

Sorry a bit confused

Thanks!

Chris

Hello,


Snames were defined in 2001 as circular firescars (so inferred) on stone.
As far as I am aware they are so far known only on Hawkesbury Sandstone
surfaces but there seems no reason (if the fire theory is correct) why they
might not also occur on other sandstone formations, like the Narrabeen
Group on the Blue Mountains plateau.

The name "snames" was published from Elvina track in Ku-Ring-Gai Chase by
Michael Barry and John Clegg.

An excursion is being organised for mid February or later to view this
"type locality" of the snames.

If interested in attending, or in knowing more, please contact me and I'll
keep you individually informed as whatever final date is decided upon.

Also at later times comparative visitations might be organised to snames
and associated features elsewhere (e.g. Maroota/Gosford areas).

We are possibly going to try and see if we can get either Barry or Clegg
(John Clegg is now retired) to attend on the visit to Elvina Track.

Cheers,



John Byrnes

(Sydney geologist)
(LachlanHunter -
http://www.lachlanhunter.deadsetfreestuff.com/JohnByrnes.htm )