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#92 From: "cows_300" <cows_300@...>
Date: Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:50 am
Subject:: Re: Places for fossils on the south coast.
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Hi Everyone
Thanks for all the info im sure it will make for a good day of
collecting and exploring.
Hope everyone has a great Christmas!
Regards Chris

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> Hi Chris
>   At present we have not made any plans in the New Year but I
would think sometime in February. As for places to look for fossils
try the headlands around Crookhaven Lighthouse - you might find
brachiopods etc. or Avalon Beach for some plant fossils but be
careful of falling rocks.
>
> Albert
> Merry Christmas
>
> cows_300 <cows_300@...> wrote:
Thanks for the reply Albert
>  I Will send in my forms to become a member at the end of this
week
>  so i can join you on your outings! cant wait!
>  I was hoping to just go for a bit of a drive with my dad and find
a
>  few fossils. Im not looking to go on private land but natural
>  exposures such as headlands or road cuts that are legal to hunt
on.
>  Any info on places like this would help as i want to go this
weekend.
>  Thanks a lot.
>  Also When and where is the next fossil club trip?
>
>  Regards Chris
>
>  --- In fossilclubgroup@..., Fossil Club of NSW
>  <fossilclubnsw@> wrote:
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>  > Hi Chris
>  > The Fossil Club has a field trip just about every month. If you
>  joined the club you will be able to go on these outings. Most of
the
>  sites are on private properties and the club has a very good
rapport
>  with the owners. The club tries to discourage individual
>  (representing the Fossil Club) to go on these sites as in the
past
>  some people caused havoc to the property which did not sit well
with
>  the owner.
>  >
>  > Regards
>  > Albert
>  >
>  > cows_300 <cows_300@> wrote:                               Hey
>  Everyone
>  >
>  >  I was hoping someone would be able to help me to find some
fossil
>  >  sites on the south coast.
>  >  I know of a few but not 100% sure about the reliablility of
the
>  >  sources. Wollongong; plant fossils? where abouts?
>  >  Also does gerringong have fossils, eurydesma?
>  >  Also are their any outcrops in berry?
>  >  Any  info onother sites would be greatly appriciated!
>  >  any sites no further thank 3 hours drive from sydney! Thanks!
>  >
>  >  Regards Chris
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#91 From: Fossil Club of NSW <fossilclubnsw@...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:49 am
Subject:: Re: Re: Places for fossils on the south coast.
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Hi Chris
At present we have not made any plans in the New Year but I would think sometime in February. As for places to look for fossils try the headlands around Crookhaven Lighthouse - you might find brachiopods etc. or Avalon Beach for some plant fossils but be careful of falling rocks.

Albert
Merry Christmas

cows_300 <cows_300@...> wrote:
Thanks for the reply Albert
I Will send in my forms to become a member at the end of this week
so i can join you on your outings! cant wait!
I was hoping to just go for a bit of a drive with my dad and find a
few fossils. Im not looking to go on private land but natural
exposures such as headlands or road cuts that are legal to hunt on.
Any info on places like this would help as i want to go this weekend.
Thanks a lot.
Also When and where is the next fossil club trip?

Regards Chris

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> Hi Chris
> The Fossil Club has a field trip just about every month. If you
joined the club you will be able to go on these outings. Most of the
sites are on private properties and the club has a very good rapport
with the owners. The club tries to discourage individual
(representing the Fossil Club) to go on these sites as in the past
some people caused havoc to the property which did not sit well with
the owner.
>
> Regards
> Albert
>
> cows_300 <cows_300@...> wrote: Hey
Everyone
>
> I was hoping someone would be able to help me to find some fossil
> sites on the south coast.
> I know of a few but not 100% sure about the reliablility of the
> sources. Wollongong; plant fossils? where abouts?
> Also does gerringong have fossils, eurydesma?
> Also are their any outcrops in berry?
> Any info onother sites would be greatly appriciated!
> any sites no further thank 3 hours drive from sydney! Thanks!
>
> Regards Chris
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#90 From: John <john.mail@...>
Date: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:43 pm
Subject:: Re: Fossil trees reported at Box Head near Gosford (and fish at Bowral)
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Hello,

Fossil trees at Box Head were first reported in 2003, with a photo of them
which was taken by Andrew Taylor published by Tasman Walker in that year.
The photo has also been widely used in a creationist leaflet letterboxed in
the Gosford area and elsewhere.

Recently the site was visited by a locally organised excursion .. which had
been a long time coming (getting organised, with NPWS help to open locked
gate etc).  It is found that the vertical objects in sandstone are not
trees but rather some curious vertical pipelike iron oxide concretions.
There are probably very many of them present.  Box Head is a fair hike to
get to (unless one had a motorbike or something, and the track in is
accessible to some vehicles but rough and with a locked gate part way along
it) and it thus seems to have been very rarely visited by geologists.

At the moment I don't know of anything comparable to there vertical
concretions from anywhere else in the world.

Photos and description are under "GOSFORD" at:

http://www.lachlanhunter.deadsetfreestuff.com/JB/geo-sitesG-I.htm

Also there (under GOSFORD) is consideration of a concretions horizon which
occurs high in the Hawkesbury Sandstone.  I suspect that this continues
over to the southern side of Broken Bay and also west as far as Maroota.

These concretions are not very substantial internally and 'outcrop' often
as circles or small partially weathered out "cup marks" on the sandstone
outcrops .. and have been thought to be human (Aboriginal) engravings by
some persons interested in rock art engravings .. So because there are very
many of them, one idea had developed that they may represent stars, and
hence that patterns of them could record Aboriginal cosmology etc.  ... but
no chance of that if they are concretions.

Information on any other known concretion occurrences in Hawkebury
Sandstone, or indeed any quarry sites or fossil sites or interest features
not yet in the ongoing "directory", would be appreciated .. since most
things/sites are presumably not yet in it (yet the number that are is
increasing).

I've also gotten recently a little info about Bowral fossil fish from
someone who works with someone whose brother works or worked at Bowral
brickpit.  The account goes that one person told another, from whom I
learned it, that "some years ago, South Australian Museum staff went for a
dig at the bottom of the quarry. Some hours later they arrived at his
office, breathless, carrying a fish fossil which they declared would be on
display at the Adelaide Museum".  This is said to have happened years ago.
I'm following up to try and confirm this.   From the railway cutting nearby
(approach to Mt Gibraltar tunnel) fish and a fragmentary labryrinthodont
were recovered long ago.  When I worked at the Mining Museum I think they
too had quite bit of material from Bowral but I don't know if that was from
the railway line exposures or from the quarry.  The source is either the
Mittagong Formation or basal Ashfield Shale.

Cheers,



John Byrnes

#89 From: "cows_300" <cows_300@...>
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:43 pm
Subject:: Re: Places for fossils on the south coast.
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Thanks for the reply Albert
I Will send in my forms to become a member at the end of this week
so i can join you on your outings! cant wait!
I was hoping to just go for a bit of a drive with my dad and find a
few fossils. Im not looking to go on private land but natural
exposures such as headlands or road cuts that are legal to hunt on.
Any info on places like this would help as i want to go this weekend.
Thanks a lot.
Also When and where is the next fossil club trip?

Regards Chris

--- In fossilclubgroup@..., Fossil Club of NSW
<fossilclubnsw@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Chris
> The Fossil Club has a field trip just about every month. If you
joined the club you will be able to go on these outings. Most of the
sites are on private properties and the club has a very good rapport
with the owners. The club tries to discourage individual
(representing the Fossil Club) to go on these sites as in the past
some people caused havoc to the property which did not sit well with
the owner.
>
> Regards
> Albert
>
> cows_300 <cows_300@...> wrote:                               Hey
Everyone
>
>  I was hoping someone would be able to help me to find some fossil
>  sites on the south coast.
>  I know of a few but not 100% sure about the reliablility of the
>  sources. Wollongong; plant fossils? where abouts?
>  Also does gerringong have fossils, eurydesma?
>  Also are their any outcrops in berry?
>  Any  info onother sites would be greatly appriciated!
>  any sites no further thank 3 hours drive from sydney! Thanks!
>
>  Regards Chris
>
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#88 From: Fossil Club of NSW <fossilclubnsw@...>
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:29 am
Subject:: Re: Places for fossils on the south coast.
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Hi Chris
The Fossil Club has a field trip just about every month. If you joined the club you will be able to go on these outings. Most of the sites are on private properties and the club has a very good rapport with the owners. The club tries to discourage individual (representing the Fossil Club) to go on these sites as in the past some people caused havoc to the property which did not sit well with the owner.

Regards
Albert

cows_300 <cows_300@...> wrote:
Hey Everyone

I was hoping someone would be able to help me to find some fossil
sites on the south coast.
I know of a few but not 100% sure about the reliablility of the
sources. Wollongong; plant fossils? where abouts?
Also does gerringong have fossils, eurydesma?
Also are their any outcrops in berry?
Any info onother sites would be greatly appriciated!
any sites no further thank 3 hours drive from sydney! Thanks!

Regards Chris





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#87 From: "cows_300" <cows_300@...>
Date: Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:57 am
Subject:: Places for fossils on the south coast.
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Hey Everyone

I was hoping someone would be able to help me to find some fossil
sites on the south coast.
I know of a few but not 100% sure about the reliablility of the
sources. Wollongong; plant fossils? where abouts?
Also does gerringong have fossils, eurydesma?
Also are their any outcrops in berry?
Any  info onother sites would be greatly appriciated!
any sites no further thank 3 hours drive from sydney! Thanks!


Regards Chris

#86 From: "janewlands" <janewlands@...>
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 10:49 am
Subject:: Re: Saga of the Stump
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> Hi John
> I have uploaded the file in the file section.
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> Regards
> Albert
-------------------------------------
Thanks Albert

I'll send that link to several people. 650kb is too big for dialup
inboxes or quickie messages to people at work.  With a URL the people
with a slow connection can put the kettle on while downloading. Others
with broadband at home might prefer to read it there.

John N.

#85 From: "fossilclubnsw" <fossilclubnsw@...>
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 7:00 am
Subject:: Saga of the Stump
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Hi John
I have uploaded the file in the file section.

Regards
Albert

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Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 6:57 am
Subject:: New file uploaded to fossilclubgroup
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#83 From: "janewlands" <janewlands@...>
Date: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:42 am
Subject:: not quite stumped
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Greetings

Apparently the lateral roots will be araldited to the Jurassic stump
sometime. Any chance of making the pdf downloadable to non-members of
NSWFC?

Peter Harris and I hope to acquire a 'companion' log for the Museum
from Eocene-Miocene tuffs bordering the upper Derwent river.

On Nov 10 I should be at the Zeehan Gem Show then Phil Sansom and I
will check out a nearby grid ref for Ordovician trilobites given in a
paper by club patron Greg Edgecombe. It appears to involve a 500m
spludge through leech and tiger snake infested swamp.

Regards
John in Tassie

#82 From: "janewlands" <janewlands@...>
Date: Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:04 pm
Subject:: Jurassic tree finally gets to museum
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As promised months ago I've put the story ('saga of the stump')about
the Tasmanian Jurassic tree in the files section. Relevant images are
the photo galleries. Now for some new projects.
Regards
John Newlands(ex NSW now Tas)

#81 From: John <john.mail@...>
Date: Mon Jun 4, 2007 4:25 pm
Subject:: Further re the fossil trees(?) at Box Head
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Hello,


A meeting of people interested in fossils of the 'Hawkesbury-Gosford' area,
with particular reference to supposed fossil trees (I've not seen these
myself) at Box Head is to be held soon.

Fossil trees/stumps have been reported from localities which are likely
topmost Narrabeen Group at both Box Head and Coal and Candle Creek (the
latter seen years ago I understand by a member of Fossil Club .. as I
learned of myself through joining
fossilclubgroup@yahoogroups).  The Box Head occurrence I have been sent
photos of .. showing solid dark cyclinders standing vertical in the
sandstone on the eastern side of Box Head.  They certainly look like trees
and are very prominent.  If they are trees and so prominent it seems
strange that no geologist (as far as I know) has noted them before.  Nor
did the park ranger (Bouddi National Park) know they were there, when
contacted.

The walking track is said to take 1 hour to reach Box Head from the nearest
road access.

Other possible sites of interest include reported diprotodont tracks on
shore at nearby bay on coast, and the old railway quarry (if still
accessible?) where all the fossil fish were found in the 1880s.  Over 400
fish were obtained.  The fossil bed discovery may have been made in or
before 1887 which is when a labryrinthodont was described from it.  This
quarry was opened by a Mr Blunt, Railway Contractor.  I have a book on
history of Gosford that describes the making of the tunnel there which was
a very remarkable feat for the times.  It is stated in the book that the
tunnelers struck a seam of coal, which is also quite unusual for the
expected horizon.  The record, if any, of that would also be interesting to
find.

Also to be discussed or prospected at this meeting will be if anyone is
also interested in the fossil forests of Lake Macquarie are.  So far known
are about 10+ people possibly interested in Hawkesbury-Gosford area fossils
and maybe 1-3 interested in fossil trees further north (Lake Macquarie) area.

If anyone is interested come to the meeting.  Some of all attending are
likely to go on to Box Head or elsewhere.  At least two of three locals who
are interested in natural history will be present.  The Park Ranger also
might be present if he is available that morning.

Date: Wednesday 13th June.

Place: Maitland Bay Info Centre at 10 a.m.   (A map of how to get there can
be emailed).

If anyone is interested in going there by train then it is highly likely
that arrangement to pick up from Gosford Station
can be made.  Train times are belows.


Regards,


John Byrnes
Geologist
(http://www.lachlanhunter.deadsetfreestuff.com/JohnByrnes.htm)




~~~ Train times Sydney-Gosford ~~~>

UP
==

Central  7:18  7:40  8:15
Strathfield  7:30  7:52  8:27
Hornsby  7:54  8:19  8:50
Gosford  8:52  9:14  9:37


DOWN
====

Gosford  11:48  12:11  12:48  1:11  1:48  2:11
Hornsby  12:34  1:04  1:34  2:04  2:34  3:04
Strathfield  12:56  1:27  1:56  2:27  2:56  3:27
Central  1:10  1:40  2:10  2:40  3:10  3:40

#80 From: John <john.mail@...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2007 2:34 am
Subject:: Re: Ashfield Shale exposures at Baulkham Hills and Ashfield
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Hello,


There is a large excavation going on in Ashfield Shale at the moment at the
supermarket in Baulkham Hills.

I have made enquiries and find that the machinery all ceases after 4:30
p.m. ... and also that potentially access to have a look around could be
allowed therefore in the late afternoon of any day.  Anyone interested in
Baulkham Hills, maybe contact me privately.

Also, I have just .. quite accidentally .. come upon a truly giant shaft
dug right down through the Ashfield Shale, to a depth of 25m deep, right at
Ashfield itself (in Queen Street).  It has a full scale large bucket
excavator working down the bottom of it, however they got that down there!

The shaft is for works under construction to drop the stormwater run-off of
(new?) urban development around the Liverpool area down to a sewer main (in
the a 'century old' brick and concrete-lined tunnel system under Sydney).

If anyone is interested in going down this shaft I will try to arrange for
that with Sydney Water for party trip access for later this year, probably
for June of July.  You are extremely unlikely to find any fossils or ever
to be allowed to touch the walls, but also extremely likely (I would guess)
to see the typical (and widespread?) thing sideritic beds which are the
rock type most likely to preserve fish bones in the Ashfield Shale.

From what little I have learned to date there are the hard band(s) just
above where the tunnel is, one of the employees telling me that they struck
harder stuff "like basalt" which was the first material they had to
specially break during the excavation.

I am intending to visit Sydney Water geo section (they have two geologists)
in the next 1-2 weeks and can discuss this with them then.  You could try
to do the same I guess separately as a FossilClub approach to them, or if
the number interested is small just come as LachlanHunter associates.


Best Regards,



John Byrnes

(LachlanHunter geologist)



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Burwood, NSW 1805
Ph: (02) 9747 3701

#79 From: "paleosearch" <paleosearch@...>
Date: Wed May 30, 2007 12:14 am
Subject:: Re: Fossils at Canowindra [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
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Hi Adrian
You can find the Fossil Club's URL web address at the bottom of this
group Home page under Related Links. Once you joined you will be able
to access the Newsletter area (members only) which have a lot more in
it than the quarterly Newsletter.

Regards
Albert
Your moderator & webmaster


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> Thanks for heads up chaps...as I expected  Cheers
>

#78 From: "adrianfryatt2004" <Adrian.Fryatt@...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2007 10:59 pm
Subject:: Re: Fossils at Canowindra [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
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Thanks for heads up chaps...as I expected  Cheers

#77 From: jill harrison <jillyonly1@...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2007 2:23 pm
Subject:: Re: Fossils at Canowindra [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
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Hi Adrian,
Though not connected to Canowindra, you may be
interested in making contact with the The Fossil Club
of NSW, a group which travels to sites (mainly private
properties and working quarries) where, for a small
fee the group is able to dig and keep any material we
find. You can contact the Field Trip Co-ordinator
(Elvie Coffey) on 45723484 or 0417477885 for more
information on upcoming trips and membership details.
The club holds regular meetings and prints a quarterly
newsletter. It is quite separate to the Museum digs,
and  welcomes new members.
Jill Harrison (a Member)



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#76 From: "john.mail@..." <john.mail@...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2007 3:40 am
Subject:: Re: Fossils at Canowindra [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
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Hello Adrian,


Search via Australian Museum or via "Age of Fishes Museum" in Google and you should get information on all this.

The particular fossiliferous lens discovered in 1956 near Canowindra was probably just about all entirely dug up in due course and the slabs removed to the museum's land.  It was in all some 180 slabs of  80 t mass, which ought to hold/yield 3000-4000 fish specimens.
 
The museum may have facilities for visitors to do things?   Wellington Caves precincts, for example, is a site which has for some years now had some palae-lab facilities where (for a fee) people can work with fossils in various ways.

Although Devonian full fish are very rare, individual scattered plates from their armour can more often (but still  uncommonly) be found in the Devonian hard sandstones or 'quartzites' which are very widespread in central NSW.  There's a man named Alex Ritchie who knows where all the old fish hang out.   Others may know too.

I've found a few myself but you usually find then when you are NOT looking for them.   If you actually look for them you might never find them :-)

Regards,



John Byrnes



#75 From: Rodney Berrell <rod_rex@...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2007 2:14 am
Subject:: Re: Fossils at Canowindra [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
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Hi Adrian,
The material at Canowindra "the actual fish locality"
is protected by canowindra shire council. If you
contact monica young from gondwana dreaming, she
organises digs (people pay to go on) with the Age of
museum, unfornatly your not allow to keep any of the
finds on these digs. hope that helps.

Rodney





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#74 From: Adrian.Fryatt@...
Date: Tue May 29, 2007 12:29 am
Subject:: Fossils at Canowindra [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
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Hi all, I am new to your group.  Iwas wondering what the situation is in
regards to finding fossils at Canowindra.  Is this the exclusive preserve
of the Universities or can I look for myself or can I join an organised
tour group?
Thanks for your help!   Adrian


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#73 From: John <john.mail@...>
Date: Mon May 21, 2007 8:31 am
Subject:: Re: still stumped
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Hi John,

Thanks for the news update.

And as to the seeming inactivity here in not having gotten to Coal and
Candle Creek yet all I can say is that it is still high in mind to do.  It
may seem amazing that we STILL haven't been to visit the site you informed
me of now fairly long ago, but at least the interest in the matter has
grown and someone will get there sooner or later .. currently with June in
mind.

I've also got a photo of a quite large log at Mt Wood east of Tibooburra -
either stream transported log from the Jurassic, or less likely was
driftwood in the Cretacious Rolling Downs Group.  It had been brought in to
Mt Wood station when I photographed it years ago and exact occurrence now
uncertain, but I am thinking of following up on that one too.

I think that's all that's woody that I know of at the moment.

Cheers,




John



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At 02:54 AM 5/21/07 -0000, you wrote:

>John Byrnes

>your message reminds me that I said I'd have a story by now on the
>Jurassic tree at the Hobart Museum. Well it ain't ready for display
>yet. Meanwhile fellow collector Peter Harris and I are looking for a
>suitable Tertiary log to go to the Museum as a companion piece, in all
>likelihood retrieved by a 12' tinny from the base of tuff cliffs on
>the Derwent River.

>Talking of museums Ulverstone based collector Adam Anderson tells me
>club patron Greg Edgecombe has relocated to the British Museum in
>London  as an invertebrates specialist.
>Regards

>John Newlands

#72 From: "janewlands" <janewlands@...>
Date: Mon May 21, 2007 2:54 am
Subject:: still stumped
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John Byrnes
your message reminds me that I said I'd have a story by now on the
Jurassic tree at the Hobart Museum. Well it ain't ready for display
yet. Meanwhile fellow collector Peter Harris and I are looking for a
suitable Tertiary log to go to the Museum as a companion piece, in all
likelihood retrieved by a 12' tinny from the base of tuff cliffs on
the Derwent River.

Talking of museums Ulverstone based collector Adam Anderson tells me
club patron Greg Edgecombe has relocated to the British Museum in
London  as an invertebrates specialist.
Regards
John Newlands

#71 From: John <john.mail@...>
Date: Mon May 21, 2007 12:09 am
Subject:: Interests (esp. Maroota and Fossil Trees)
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Hi All,


My apology to the Club that I *STILL* have not yet sent money for
membership .... blush.

I do wish to belong and my only 'excuse' is that I am a great
procrastinator with a long list of many thing to be done and knowledge that
I'm guilty of "not getting around to things" to a significant degree.

Anyway, I WILL be sending the membership application and fee; or if perhaps
I came to any meeting beforehand I'll pay on the spot.

That said, I'm catching up with something else I perhaps should have done
before and didn't do .. or maybe I did (I don't remember)?

That was that Albert on 4/7/2006 wrote that I might like to post more
information on the Maroota project.

So here that is.

It is based in or closely related to LachlanHunter Associates, which is a
voluntary association (so far of geologists and one archaeologist) of
persons interested in the way things used to be (natural history) of the
Lachlan/Sydney/Hunter region of NSW (that's most of NSW leaving off a few
bits like New England, Broken Hill precambrian block, and Murray Basin).
Anyone's welcome to join or associate in any way.

A common theme that would 'work' for any area that we have been following
is the idea of compilation of natural history information on disk.  Best
commercial pricing I've so far seen for that is $0.33 per A4 page (jobs
over 200 pages).

We are not likely to do it unless we get a grant of some sort.  So far 8+
grant-seekings have all been unsuccessful but this year once again grant
request for Maroota is being made to Environmental Trust.  And ditto for
Upper Castlereagh area which is also mainly to do with the history of the
Nepean-Hawkesbury River evolution.

The Maroota project is based on the Maroota Sand, and hence the scope/area
extent of it is restricted per se to the area of the Maroota Sand formation
(but some/most of the persons interested also have wider interests in the
area too).

Even though the Maroota project has not been funded we are "doing it
anyway" but only on a very small scale and at quite slow rate.

This entails occasional meetings at Maroota and also there is a newsletter
for anybody interested.  I think there's about 40 people on the newsletter
and if you want to be added just send me a request directly please.  News
of Maroota is sent out at least once a month.

The next meeting coming up for Maroota will be held at Maroota Public
School in conjunction with the "show and tell" for the
next sand quarry planned for Maroota (for Lot 2, DP 555184, Old Northern
Road, Maroota by Arkzeal Pty Ltd).

Our prime interest is getting permission to wander over the land at
Maroota, much of which is now owned by sand mining companies, because until
we can do that (i.e. actually look at the Maroota Sand and also look at
exposures made within it during quarrying) we are not getting very far very
fast with the envisaged study.

Others likely to go to the show-and-tell day would almost certainly be
local residents with various concerns about sand mining.

We (Maroota Sand geology devotees .. or LH .. might, if time were
available, and if sufficent interest manifested, also try to organise a bit
of a tour of the surroundings on that day.  There's not a terrible great
deal to be seen that you would not see for yourself just by driving around
with or without any guide.  On the east side of the Maroota Sand is a small
circular remnant of a basalt flow.  It overlaps the edge of the Sand
against Hawkesbury Sandstone on the east, we think.  A bit of drilling
would be nice .. but again that needs funds.  A dating of the basalt has
given an Eocene age.  The sand at Maroota is likely the oldest known bit of
the Nepean-Hawkesbury history preserved anywhere around.

If you measured the height of Maroota, or rather read it off a map which
might be easiest (or easier still off Google Earth), and the elevation of
the river where it now lies in its valley 'far' below, take one from the
other and divide by the number of years between then you'll get an idea of
average downcutting rate at this area.

The Aboriginal carvings at Maroota (Devil's Rock) have been said by some to
be some of Australia's finest.  The Maroota Sand is a good aquifer, which
contained easily accessible water at not all that far down.  If the
Aborigines knew this, and used that water, then this could have
sustained/made Maroota a major pre-European meeting place.  That idea has
probably been around a long time but is difficult to test one way or the
other - and there are very few implements or fragments that have been found
on the Maroota Sand area itself.

So, that is a description of the Maroota project or current interests at
Maroota.

LachlanHunter also has a 'Fossil Trees Interest Group (FTIG)' activity.

If you wish to be added to the emailing list for that, again just contact me.

FTIG interests include fossil trees/forests worldwide, and locally the
Permian ones of the Sydney Basin.

Main interest is in the fossil forest horizons of the Lake Macquarie area
but there are also interests in the southern coalfield too.

And of course in chasing the possibility of a Narrabeen Group fossil
forest, the first suggestion/trace of which came from
the Fossil Club, with the mention of a fossil tree having been found many
years ago at Coal and Candle Creek.

Since then more ?tree objects, vertical in sandstone, have been reported in
sandstone at Box Head.

So far neither of these spots have been visited to look for or look at
these "trees" but there is now a total of ~13 or more persons interested in
this and a meeting of these is planned for 23 June (pencilled in date) at
Bouddi National Park.

I watch the activities in Tasmania on the fossil trees of course and
amazing what's been achieved or might be achieved/discovered there.

None of us (LachlanHunter) happen to be a creationist, but our small scale
community activities (e.g. the Maroota project monthly news is published in
a small newspaper/newsletter distributed all around Maroota and nearby
places) have attracted response from one creationist at Maroota and also
the fossil trees topic north of Sydney has been of running interest to
creationists for years.  No creationists have so far come to any of our
meetings but I think it is inevitable that they sooner or later will. Maybe
we will get along okay (as some creationists are geologists too) but in
general the ideas of creationists and orthodox geology are impossible to
reconcile.

So that's it .. there's three projects or interests that I'd love to hear
from know anybody else interested in joining or cooperating in (Maroota,
Castlereagh, fossils trees at Lake Macquarie area or elsewhere).

Cheers,



John Byrnes

(Strathfield)














surrounding the Project Site. This meeting raised certain concerns
which our client would prefer to address prior to holding the information
session.
Our client appreciates that the community’s time and attention is valuable.

Postponement of the session will allow time to resolve issues, meet landholder
expectations and ensure project plans meet the detail and certainty
necessary for
effective community discussion. It will mean that your time, and that of other
stakeholders, is not unduly spent reviewing information that may change or not
remain relevant as the project progresses.

Arkzeal and Key Insights apologise for any inconvenience. We thank you for
your
interest to date and will inform you of the new Information Day date as it
becomes
available.

Regards,

Melissa Kilkelly
Key Insights Pty Ltd






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Hi Melissa,


Just seeing this very late at the moment before I hit the sack.

But yes I can distribute widely the postponed date.

I'll do it tomorrow.

And get back to you to confirm I've done it.

Cheers,




John Byrnes

#70 From: "paleosearch" <paleosearch@...>
Date: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:52 pm
Subject:: Re: booklets
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Hi Guys
The book Digging Up Deep Time by Paul Willis & Abbie Thomas (ABC
Books)mentioned sites in and around Sydney. I don't know this would help.

Albert


--- In fossilclubgroup@..., John <john.mail@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> To: James Hall Strong, james_hall_strong@...
>
>
>
> Hello James,
>
> I am interested in getting these too, as I've been trying to compile
little
> by litte all sites of geological interest around Sydney.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> John Byrnes
>
>
> (Geologist, Sydney, Australia)
>
>
>
>
>
> ~~~~
>
>
> Hello... I recently borrowed a copy of the booklet "Finding Fossils in
> Sydney" (1987) by Peter Watson, and I note that it is partly based on
> another booklet by Peter, "How to Find Fossils in Sydney"... are
> either of these works still available, through the club or elsewhere?
>
> Thanks,
> James :)
>

#69 From: John <john.mail@...>
Date: Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:05 pm
Subject:: booklets
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Hello James,

I am interested in getting these too, as I've been trying to compile little
by litte all sites of geological interest around Sydney.


Cheers,



John Byrnes


(Geologist, Sydney, Australia)





~~~~


Hello... I recently borrowed a copy of the booklet "Finding Fossils in
Sydney" (1987) by Peter Watson, and I note that it is partly based on
another booklet by Peter, "How to Find Fossils in Sydney"... are
either of these works still available, through the club or elsewhere?

Thanks,
James :)

#68 From: "James Hall Strong" <james_hall_strong@...>
Date: Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:58 pm
Subject:: booklets
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Hello... I recently borrowed a copy of the booklet "Finding Fossils in
Sydney" (1987) by Peter Watson, and I note that it is partly based on
another booklet by Peter, "How to Find Fossils in Sydney"... are
either of these works still available, through the club or elsewhere?

Thanks,
James :)

#67 From: "paleosearch" <paleosearch@...>
Date: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:11 pm
Subject:: 2007 Tucson Fossil Show Pictures
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Hello Everone
I have replaced the 2006 Tucson Fossil pictures with the 2007 ones.
Hope you all like it. I have archived the 2006 pictures and if anyone
wants to see it please let know.

Albert

#66 From: "rod_rex" <rod_rex@...>
Date: Thu Mar 1, 2007 12:17 am
Subject:: Fossils sites in southern queensland
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Hi All.
i have just moved to queensland to begin my honours on fossil fish
from the winton formation,
does any one know any localities near brisbane, for instance i heard
of a quarry near Ipswich that produces plant material.


Thanks

rodney

#65 From: "paleosearch" <paleosearch@...>
Date: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:20 pm
Subject:: Tucson Mineral and Fossil Show Pictures
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Hello All

I will be deleting the 2006 Tucson Mineral and Fossil Show pictures
soon and will replace them with this year's pictures. If you have not
had a chance to look at some of the good stuff there please do.

Albert
Moderator

#64 From: jill harrison <jillyonly1@...>
Date: Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:21 am
Subject:: Fwd: Re: A labyrinthodont walked this way - At Macquarie Fields.
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> Subject: Re: [fossilclubgroup] A labyrinthodont
> walked this way - At Macquarie Fields.
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> Just a little piece of rock (one of many) found at
> Mulbring with the Fossil Club in 2006. Make great
> gifts!
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#63 From: jill harrison <jillyonly1@...>
Date: Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:46 am
Subject:: Re: A labyrinthodont walked this way - At Macquarie Fields.
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