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Re: Elementarry leeward hull in 2 parts ?


--- In harryproa@..., "Rob Denney" <proa@i...> wrote:
> G'day,
>
> The foot lockers are a good idea, although it is not easy to get
them absolutely watertight. Maybe not a huge issue for a weekender.
>
> Sliding the components together is good in theory, but the sheer
weight of them makes it hard work if you have to do it twice per
weekend.

Possibly have them slide out like a set of drawers? Removes the
weight issue. The sealing is still a problem, especiall from below
from the occasional wave exerting considerable hydraulic pressure.
Probably require an extra sealong strip below. elsewhere, the normal
hatch type sealig gaskets should work.

carole and I have been mappping out the garden , working where the
duck shed has to move to so there is enough continuous room to build
the boat. though, she is keen to sail on one before she finally
commits





The trailer design is critical.
>
> I look forward to sorting out all these details!
>
> Regards,
>
> Rob
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert
> To: harryproa@...
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 1:52 AM
> Subject: [harryproa] Re: Elementarry leeward hull in 2 parts ?
>
>
>
> --- In harryproa@..., "Rob Denney" <proa@i...>
wrote:
> > G'day,
> Snip>
> > Doing this to the accommodation is a bit trickier, but could be
> done with a fore and aft flange to bolt the extension to. Not
sure
> it would be worth the effort for a Harry. As well as the hassle
of
> assembling/disassembling, there is the issue of where to put the
> extra piece on what is already a big trailer load.
>
> I was considering a foot locker for across-sleeping
accommodation.
> The foot lockers would double as seats on deck that could be
taken
> off, rotated 180 and slipped inside the bunks for towing. The
seats
> are already in the design as add-ons. To me, the important thing
is
> how well it can be sealed with minimum cost and minimum effort in
> assembly/disassembly.
> I have some ideas that I reckon could be assembled in a couple of
> minutes based on the extension sliding into slightly taperd
grooved
> flanges on the main boat, locked down with a pivoted bar. It may
only
> require one bolt per end- or even better- a cam lock arrangement
> Robert>
> > regards,
> >
> > Rob----- Original Message -----
> > From: Robert
> > To: harryproa@...
> > Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 11:12 AM
> > Subject: [harryproa] Re: Elementarry leeward hull in 2 parts ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > I am intrigued by the engineering of detachable bows. I can
> imagine
> > it for single directional craft but my imagination doesn't
seem
> up to
> > fairing and sealing the joint for an end swapper. Could the
same
> > technology be used to provide an add-on to the wing deck to
> provide
> > extra accommodation and keep within the towing width limit?
> >
> > Sorry Mark, I know how much easier if the drawings only had
to be
> > completed once per boat. I'd be more than happy with an
> Elementarry
> > as is, but I have been told we can't afford the money, time
or
> space
> > for any more boats other than the Harry we plan to build. I
have
> > been allocated a space in the back yard for a temporary shed
for
> > building it but it may mean lifting it over the roof of the
house
> to
> > get it out. The individual hulls shouldn't weigh too much
for
> this
> > to be more than a nuisance .
> > Robert.
> >
> > --- In harryproa@..., "Mark Stephens"
> <stephens@o...>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > snip
> > Alternatively, removable bows would still
> > > allow telescoping and give a leeward hull 4 metres long
like the
> > > windward hull. .
> > > snip
> > > One day someone will want a boat exactly as designed :>).
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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This a question mainly for Rob but I think it can be of interest to others, so I send it on the list. Someone in France is asking me if it could be possible to...
Nicolas Vivier
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Dec 10, 2004
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G'day, Not easily as the join is at the highest loaded part of the boat, and the mast step has to be included as well. Better to make the join outside the ...
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Dec 11, 2004
11:12 am

... Is this a special Elementarry? Surely the standard design is a schooner so there's no mast at the centre of the boat? Cheers, Dave...
Dave Howorth
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Dec 11, 2004
12:33 pm

G'day, Sorry, I read that as Visionarry, not Elementarry. Problem with doing emails in the middle of the night after a hard day kiting! A 2 piece Elementarry...
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Dec 11, 2004
9:35 pm

Rob, I can see it now. A Loooong Elementarry slides up to a dock on a balanced rig. The dock population gathers to watch this waterborne starship find a berth....
Peter King
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Dec 11, 2004
3:10 pm

Is this for everyday transport or for shipping? If the former it would remove the great benefits of telescoping etc that the boat now offers. Splitting in the...
Mark Stephens
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Dec 12, 2004
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... It is for transport and storage. I'm not sure I understand why it removes the benefits of telescoping(?) but anyway removable bows could be an answer : ...
Nicolas Vivier
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Dec 14, 2004
5:58 pm

G'day, The telescoping would still be possible with the join in the middle, but the beams would have to be removed and replaced each time the boat was taken ...
Rob Denney
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Dec 15, 2004
10:19 am

Hi, If you had the boat split down the middle for everyday trailering there wouldn't be much point in having the beams telescope. Telescoping allows the boat...
Mark Stephens
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Dec 16, 2004
8:42 am

Hi, I am intrigued by the engineering of detachable bows. I can imagine it for single directional craft but my imagination doesn't seem up to fairing and...
Robert
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Dec 23, 2004
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G'day, Won't be anything too fancy. Each end sealed with a bulkhead and some means of attaching them (bolts, pins, mortice and tenon, block and tackle etc)....
Rob Denney
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Dec 23, 2004
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... Snip> ... done with a fore and aft flange to bolt the extension to. Not sure it would be worth the effort for a Harry. As well as the hassle of ...
Robert
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Dec 29, 2004
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G'day, The foot lockers are a good idea, although it is not easy to get them absolutely watertight. Maybe not a huge issue for a weekender. Sliding the...
Rob Denney
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Dec 30, 2004
4:38 pm

... them absolutely watertight. Maybe not a huge issue for a weekender. ... weight of them makes it hard work if you have to do it twice per weekend. Possibly...
Robert
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Jan 1, 2005
9:51 pm

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