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Re: Elementarry micro-cruiser


--- In harryproa@..., "proaconstrictor"
<proaconstrictor@y...> wrote:
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> My sense is you can't jam that cr@p in the HariGami, for starters, it
> doesn't have two full size berths...

First excuse me if i don't use all the marine words, my 1st language
is french... I understand them when I see them but I can't find them
easily the other way back.

Naturally I am speaking about a _micro_-cruiser, that means:
- the the double berths length occupy the full width of the hull. They
would not be rectangular of course, the person sleeping closest to the
end of the hull has less length.
- there is only room for your feet below the hatch, and you can sit
around that space only with your feet down, on the side of the bunks.
- there is sitting height only on the bunks (80cm or whatever)
- under the bunks (in the depth of the hull) there should be space
some for a portable toilet and a battery...
- about bunk height: either the mattresses are set at a height of
about 500mm above water, in this case, because of the 2000mm space
between the arms, you have two bunks, one either side of an arm. or it
you st the base of the "overhang" at 650mm, you've got unrestricated
mattress space all over.

That would be very far from a harrygami... It is closer to the fitout
of a modern 5.50m monohull, but more space as there is no cockpit
taking space inside.

Dominique







Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:39 pm

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Another variant of the Elemetarry has also been nagging at my mind. The "camper" version is Ok for two adults, but I am afraid that with two kids (OK, small -...
dominiquebovey
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Jan 6, 2005
11:19 pm

Dom, welcome to the group. I have expressed a similar line of thought re a stretched / maybe wider windward hull for the Elementarry. The Elementarry concept...
Paul Napper
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Jan 6, 2005
11:36 pm

My sense is you can't jam that cr@p in the HariGami, for starters, it doesn't have two full size berths......
proaconstrictor
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Jan 14, 2005
8:10 pm

... First excuse me if i don't use all the marine words, my 1st language is french... I understand them when I see them but I can't find them easily the other...
dominiquebovey
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Jan 17, 2005
3:41 pm

We did explore the idea of a micro cruiser not that far different from what you are describing on a 16 foot platform: Imagine a Jarcat with hulls going both...
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Feb 2, 2005
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... <proaconstrictor@y...> wrote: Hi Proaconstrictor, Thanks for your remarks. And Rob, what do you think about this? regds Dom ... ==> me too! ... No the...
dominiquebovey
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Feb 7, 2005
9:04 am

re microcruiser Dom, re your weight budgets. You can do better than 10kg per sq mtr with a ( for example) 8mm foam / doublebias or biax / vac bagged lay up ,...
Paul Napper
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Feb 7, 2005
11:03 pm

G'day, Thanks for your remarks. And Rob, what do you think about this? regds Dom ... No problem as far as I can see. We are looking at options for smaller...
Rob Denney
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Feb 8, 2005
1:34 am

G'day ! (OK not "Hi" as this is an aussie group ;-) Thanks Paul and Rob for your remarks: - skin weight is surprisingly low as quoted by you, wow! Makes the ...
dominiquebovey
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Feb 8, 2005
2:07 pm

... totally ... Agreed, asking for a bath in addition would be a little over the top. Jarcats are ugly cause that guy designs ugly boats. And HPs are pretty...
proaconstrictor
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Feb 14, 2005
11:08 pm

Never say never. With a 8-1 fineness you could have 2500 pounds in that hull. I think I asked about a cruising version of this type several years back Rob,...
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Feb 14, 2005
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G'day, Thanks Paul and Rob for your remarks: - skin weight is surprisingly low as quoted by you, wow! Makes the micro-cruiser even more feasible. It is true I...
Rob Denney
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Feb 8, 2005
11:13 pm

Rob, you mentioned in a reply, that you thought a number of boats could benefit from adapting "proa characteristics". ( or words to that effect ) Got me...
Paul Napper
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Feb 14, 2005
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RE: [harryproa] Re: Elementarry micro-cruiserG'day, Rob, you mentioned in a reply, that you thought a number of boats could benefit from adapting "proa...
Rob Denney
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Feb 17, 2005
11:49 am

Jarcats are ugly cause that guy designs ugly boats. And HPs are pretty cause Mark doesn't. Now if Mark Designed a Jarcat style boat we would be on to...
Mark Stephens
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Feb 19, 2005
11:58 pm

... catamarans ... walkthrough ... I find this discussion interesting, as the Jarcat list is talking about a "next generation" Jarcat 6 at the moment. Very...
Robert McArthur
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Feb 20, 2005
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