If it is scanned, please post it where we can (all) get to it.

BTW I've subscribed to the magazine as it looks very useful.

Enjoy

Jim Baltaxe
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Carle [mailto:audeojude@...]
> Sent: Friday, 8 August 2003 1:44
> To: harryproa@...
> Subject: [harryproa] Re: Electric Motors DIY for less
>
>
> I went out and looked at tis website and didn't see
> that article on the web. It must be paper only. I
> would love to see it but I am in the us and trying to
> get a back issue is just cumbersome from here.
>
> anyone over there have it? and could scan it and email
> it to me?
> Scott
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> > 1. Re: Electric Motors DIY for less and
> > biodiesel?
> > From: Tony Richardson
> > <atrichardson@...>
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> > Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 09:11:29 +1000
> > From: Tony Richardson <atrichardson@...>
> > Subject: Re: Electric Motors DIY for less and
> > biodiesel?
> >
> > Sounds good till you try to use something like that
> > and realise the system needed to control the motor
> > works out to be 4 times the cost of a new motor.
> > Then you have to engineer the electronics to make
> > the system regenerate and then you have to couple it
> > to a shaft and prop setup.
> > All sounds easy NOT
> > All sounds cheap NOT
> > I think if you were relatively handy with a lathe
> > and milling machine you could attempt the coupling
> > and drive jobs but the control and regeneration
> > electronics would nearly require a degree in
> > electronics and or many years experience in building
> > this type of equipment.
> > Also there is still the outlay for the battery bank
> > One other thing
> > At 240 volt 50Hz (Australian standard)about the safe
> > maximum motor size you can use from a 10amp(std
> > power outlet) powerpoint is something close to
> > 1.5hp. That is far bigger than what the average
> > washing machine has and is a very very long way from
> > 6hp.
> > I haven't worked out the percentage difference but
> > it would be huge. An outboard comparison could look
> > something like 10hp against 60hp(haven't done the
> > math to work it out and if someone that knows how
> > could work it out I would be interested in the
> > result)
> > Just one more thing
> > All this stuff is very high voltage and very high
> > amperage so toying with it and getting it wrong will
> > lead to a death, probably your own.
> > Don't get me wrong I hate paying money for
> > anything(wind is for free) but sometimes
> > safety,reliability and engineering are worth paying
> > for.
> > However, I like the suggestion and as mentioned it
> > could have many other applications and is cheap.
> > Rgs
> > Tony:-)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: ellermana
> > To: harryproa@...
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:41 PM
> > Subject: [harryproa] Electric Motors DIY for less
> > and biodiesel?
> >
> >
> > Anyone interested in electric motors whose budget
> > does not extend to
> > US$9000+ for the real thing might like to explore
> > a DIY option based
> > on brushless "Smartdrive" washing machine motors.
> > In Australia,
> > these are sold in Fisher & Paykell machines, and
> > have been converted
> > for many uses. They can be acquired cheaply from
> > discarded washing
> > machines, or the key components purchased new.
> >
> > The ReNew alternative technology magazine has had
> > several articles
> > recently on converting these motors for use as
> > generators (Issue 82
> > Jna-March 2003, Issue 80, July-Sept 2002). With
> > the right electronic
> > expertise, it would presumably be possible to
> > produce a powerful low
> > revving regenerating motor for maybe less than
> > A$500.
> >
> > Then if you really wanted to save the planet, you
> > could charge your
> > battery bank by solar, and/or run a backup
> > generator on biodiesel.
> > ReNew magazine also covers the backyard production
> > of biodiesel in
> > several recent issues, using used frying oils as
> > the feedstock.
> >
> > The ReNew magazine is published by the Australian
> > Alternative
> > Technology Assoc. Their wbsite is www.ata.org.au.
> >
> > Andrew Ellerman
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