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the kevlar was from a US site for end of run sections. I did the
conversion for the dollar but did not include freight, a one off that
may not repeat itself. Cheaper glass is good news. Poly core deal is
very good. I reckon on about a quarter of that 200 sheets for a
harry. Have to do some more detailed measuring and work out how much
hard deck I want. I suspect when I add on the deck and beams it'll be
about 45 sheets, and 50 if I go for wingmasts. I'm presuming for the
offer of buy back of glass that we pay freight and don't splatter it
with resin :~)That is very generous.
Now I'm back working I can get my mastercard down and think of
spending again,
Robert

--- In harryproa@..., "Rob Denney" <proa@i...> wrote:
>
> G'day,
>
> I have not seen the spreadsheet (or the email that accompanied it)
either. Maybe post it on the files section of the list, or send it
to me and I will do so.
>
> I got the following from Bob August at Polycore which may reduce
your prices. .
>
> "There appears to be some genuine interest in Polycore within the
Harry group and with that in mind I make the following offer I will
supply Harry builders with 10mm Polycore sheets 1200 x 2400 if they
can find enough people to purchase together 200 sheets, I will
supply @ $55 each Gst included this is a one of offer and only to
Harryproa.
> By the way, 3m Jetmelt glue is used to join Polypropylene."
>
> When you are ready to order resin, glass etc, let me know and I
will see if I can get you our prices. You will need to order in
bulk, but we will buy back any glass left over at the end of the
job. Your resin price looks pretty good, the glass looks high and
the kevlar is incredibly cheap.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rob
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert
> To: harryproa@...
> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:47 PM
> Subject: [harryproa] Re: Material list
>
>
> -That seems a reasonable price. Botecote has a product called
> contracter wich is a 5:1 that retails at not much more than $10 a
> litre-for 240 litres-and a only a slightly cheaper price than
ados
> for the 24 litre pack. This is suitable for resin infusion if
you
> want to go that way.
> I haven't seen your spreadsheet and so don't know how much resin
you
> have catered for but taking Harrigami and adding 30%, prices I
> checked on locally today in Darwin I get about 150litres~$1700
and
> 150m2 of 400g double bias at about $8; 60m2 of tri glass at $13;
20m2
> of 200g kevlar at $8 m2 for extra puncture resistance for the
bottom
> of the hull$;$2200 for fabric 100m2 of polycore at $30 m2.$3000.
> Overall I work on 100m2for the hulls and crossbeams and
approximately
> $70/m2 before bogging and painting, not counting uni and carbon
tow
> and fabric. Can't see it being more than another $3000 and
another
> $2000 for consumables(this is just a guess- I could be a factor
of
> two out) total $12000. With plans and making hatches and rudders
it
> comes to under $20000
> This is not counting the mast/s which could be in the order of
> another $5000 each in fabrics and tow. Looks like the cost of the
> mast and fittings with Mark making them, would be about the same
as
> the cost of the materials for the rest of the boat.
> Working on the figure of 2.3kg/m2 that Rob gave for his friends
> polyprop honeycomb floor, there is only 50kg of resin in the
> laminating of the glass skins. I am assuming the rest is used in
> waste, bogging and gluing and mast making, so if getting the
masts
> made , probably take off 40-50kg resin.
>
>
> In harryproa@..., David Howie <dana-tenacity@u...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I haven't found anyone here that will sell it other than in
20litre
> lots. $400
> > for West, $260 for ados, can't find Botecote here.
> >
> > ------ Original Message ------
> > Received: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 05:49:16 PM MST
> > From: "Robert" <cateran1949@y...>
> > To: harryproa@...
> > Subject: [harryproa] Re: Material list
> >
> > I checked out the prices on the web and they were more than ATL
> > (`$3500delivered for 200 litres) or Botecote. Is this the price
for
> > enquiries for large order?
> > Robert
> >
> > --- In harryproa@..., David Howie <dana-
> tenacity@u...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > New quote on the resin $400 cheaper. Product is called
Ados/CRC.
> I
> > hadn't
> > > heard of it, ran into a guy who used it on a Newick Tri here,
> liked
> > it. Do you
> > > know anything about it?
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > > ------ Original Message ------
> > > Received: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 10:41:40 PM MST
> > > From: David Howie <dana-tenacity@u...>
> > > To: <harryproa@...>
> > > Subject: [harryproa] Material list
> > >
> > > Here at last.
> > > I know it's not very scientific (I invented 28% of a box of
> > screws), but more
> > > along the lines of a feasability study.
> > > Appreciate anything you can add.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > Attachment: Harry Pricing.xls
> > > > MIME Type: application/vnd.ms-excel
> > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Here at last. I know it's not very scientific (I invented 28% of a box of screws), but more along the lines of a feasability study. Appreciate anything you can...
David Howie
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Feb 26, 2006
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New quote on the resin $400 cheaper. Product is called Ados/CRC. I hadn't heard of it, ran into a guy who used it on a Newick Tri here, liked it. Do you know...
David Howie
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Feb 28, 2006
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I checked out the prices on the web and they were more than ATL (`$3500delivered for 200 litres) or Botecote. Is this the price for enquiries for large order? ...
Robert
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Mar 1, 2006
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I haven't found anyone here that will sell it other than in 20litre lots. $400 for West, $260 for ados, can't find Botecote here. ... Received: Tue, 28 Feb...
David Howie
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Mar 1, 2006
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-That seems a reasonable price. Botecote has a product called contracter wich is a 5:1 that retails at not much more than $10 a litre-for 240 litres-and a only...
Robert
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Mar 1, 2006
7:48 am

G'day, I have not seen the spreadsheet (or the email that accompanied it) either. Maybe post it on the files section of the list, or send it to me and I will...
Rob Denney
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Mar 1, 2006
3:39 pm

the kevlar was from a US site for end of run sections. I did the conversion for the dollar but did not include freight, a one off that may not repeat itself....
Robert
cateran1949
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Mar 2, 2006
12:01 am

Yeah Hi, Just like to inform about the contractors epoxy (cheaper 5:1) it smells a lot more than the more expensive 2:1 from BoteCote. I think you pay for your...
Doug Haines
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Mar 3, 2006
10:38 am

Thanks for the info. I suspected as much but for resin infusion it shouldn't be such a problem and it should be more reliable with the lower viscosity. I'd...
Robert
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Mar 3, 2006
11:22 am

Try Adhesive Technologies in Henderson. They formulate WEST and will sell 200 litre drums. Visit the NZ Multihull Yacht Club and ask around. Someone there...
Rob Denney
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Mar 3, 2006
9:24 am

Never heard of it, but if it is epoxy, should be fine. regards, rob ... From: David Howie To: harryproa@... Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:15...
Rob Denney
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Mar 3, 2006
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G'day, well done on the job. I will have the boat down at Jervois Bay Yacht Club (out the end on the northern side of Woodman's Point) on Sunday from about 10...
Rob Denney
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Mar 3, 2006
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