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Re: [harryproa] Re: Continuing feedback on "SIDE CAR", Elementarry Camper

Yes Robert,
 
It is not readily comparable to other boats, the buoyancy and length of Elementarry hulls are noticeable compared to say a surf cat.
Multihull stability and deckspace contrasts against a mono hull, and draft, weight too.
 
I think when you get used to the new style of sailing with shunting instead of tackingand gybing, it comes very naturally and seems normal.
 
Doug 

Robert <cateran1949@...> wrote:
-5knot avrage with the windsurfer masts is nice cruising. Nice to
hear the the seahandling fits the theory
robert
-- In harryproa@..., Doug Haines <doha720@y...> wrote:
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> Hi Proa People,
>   
>   Got to Mandurah, which is 50nm down the coast from Fremantle.
Nice ENE to head South with a low swell, and offshore winds was a
good run. Probably averaged above 5 knots most of the way. The
Easterly dropped away about 10am and I fell a sleep for an hour
waiting for the SWly seabreeze to come in. The breeze seemed a bit
more WSW so managed to stay on course for the Mandurah entrance which
is straight South. I got to the low wooden bridge in town and thought
about sailing under but chickened out and pullled the two winsurfer
masts out and rudder swished my way under and into Soldiers cove
withe the sails up agaain.
>   
>   No new findings - speed very promising, goes through waves
without going up and downover them, comfortable enough on the deck,
rudder very light if raked forward slighty( though this stops the
rudder from being used as ascullibng oar, it needs to be angled
backwards), sheet controls work good, shunting is fun but at the
moment takes time to put the rudder up and then the other one down
and my sails aren't getting away fast enough to give the rudder
enough effect so makinng the shunting a bit of work expect this to
improve with the masts done.
>   
>   Generally I expect the boat is more fun as you can look down at
the water under the beams and through the net, you can see all of the
rudder  going through the water, and watch the entry and exit of
especially the LW hull. Getting on from wlking out in the water is
easy and the wide beam and high buoyancy hulls make a stable platform
for sailling and staying on board.
>   
>   Doug

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What is the advantage of having independently controlled rudders instead of rudders that work together with a single wheel or tiller? It seems to me that...
Herb Desson
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Sep 29, 2006
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G'day, They can be advantageous when used together to steer the boat off a jetty it is being blown onto, and with a lot of care, to minimise leeway upwind....
Rob Denney
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Sep 29, 2006
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Hi Proa People, Got to Mandurah, which is 50nm down the coast from Fremantle. Nice ENE to head South with a low swell, and offshore winds was a good run....
Doug Haines
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Oct 11, 2006
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-5knot avrage with the windsurfer masts is nice cruising. Nice to hear the the seahandling fits the theory robert ... Nice ENE to head South with a low swell,...
Robert
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Oct 13, 2006
1:26 am

Yes Robert, It is not readily comparable to other boats, the buoyancy and length of Elementarry hulls are noticeable compared to say a surf cat. Multihull...
Doug Haines
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Oct 13, 2006
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Rob, I was just looking at a pic of whatever your boat is called - I guess it is THE Elementarry - anyway how about using the pole/tiller to shift/slide the...
Doug Haines
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Oct 13, 2006
6:12 am

G'day, First, congratulations on making it to Mandurah. Doubly so, considering the state of the windsurfer rigs. Using the tiller extension is a good way to...
Rob Denney
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Oct 13, 2006
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I don't see how you do it without rails. Doug Rob Denney <proa@...> wrote: G'day, First, congratulations on making it to Mandurah. Doubly so,...
Doug Haines
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G'day, Not sure it can be done, but the rails are very prone to damage if the shunt does not go smoothly and the rudder stops between the beams. No reason why...
Rob Denney
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Oct 14, 2006
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