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Hi Rob and all !

I like your elementary !!
Looks like a fast boat just standing still....

Could you give some idea of differences in designed displacement
between elementary and elementary camper ...trying to get some idea
how much displacement the camper is designed for....

Best ... H. Stein





Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:04 pm

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Hi Rob and all ! I like your elementary !! Looks like a fast boat just standing still.... Could you give some idea of differences in designed displacement ...
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Jan 11, 2007
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G'day, Glad you like it. The camper is meant for two people and their camping gear, 200 kgs. The sport is good for up to 160 although I have exceeded this on...
Rob Denney
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Jan 13, 2007
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... camping gear, 200 kgs. The sport is good for up to 160 although I have exceeded this on mine with no problems. The camper could also take more, but...
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Jan 14, 2007
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Hardy, Have you considered thee Harry? Is there space for another model in between? How do you find the NIS 26? Doug ... camping gear, 200 kgs. The sport is...
Doug Haines
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Jan 22, 2007
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... There is the harrigami if its still on the books Robert ... carry ... etc .. ... you ... boat ... address from your Internet provider....
Robert
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Robert and Hardy andall, Yeah the Harrigami is in between ant 10.5 in between 12 and 7.5 is definitely smaller than Harry. WW is 8m compared to the 8.5 and...
Doug Haines
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Jan 22, 2007
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The Harrigami is a smaller boat than the Harry and a fair big bigger than Elementarry. It was originally designed with a trailerable folding boat in mind but...
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Jan 23, 2007
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For those of you not familiar with DuFlex see this link: <http://www.atlcomposites.com/pdf/duflex_brochure.pdf> ...
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My 2 cents worth.Probably only need 400 double bias either side for the bulk of the boat. Probably more expensive for a one off. Not sure if I like the...
Robert
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Hi, Full length hull panels do make life easier when you are building a boat. I like it very much. Built my own boat that way. Chines and (partially) flat...
Rudolf vd Brug
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Jan 25, 2007
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Makes sense. The same lines and nesting could be used for other sheet materials- such as making full length polycore panels. Still, if you look at the time...
Robert
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I'm not sure I see any advantage in a hard chine duflex boat. More expensive, not pretty against faster build time. What about weight compared with strip kiri...
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Kit boats are a lot less intimidating for some people compared to building from plans where you source all your own materials, do all your own cutting, set up...
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Mark, Rob seems to be creating some fair lines in the transpac harry with his flat panel hang from the ceiling method. Is that method working or does it have...
Herb Desson
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Hi Herb, Using flat panels without chines will give you either conics or cylinders which limits your hull shape. If you want compound shapes from flat panels ...
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You could bring in a little compound curve in the top side with the KSS system on the ww hull as the area with the windows could be cut and shut with minimal...
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... Hi Doug No , can`t say I have .....I will look a little more ... The nis is quite nice actually ...its surprisingly fast , and ( relatively ) simple.For...
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hI hARDY, The masts are the same as the hull - strip planked kiri in female molds. I was iven a shape from youri and myriam from holland and scaled that down...
Doug Haines
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... molds. I was iven a shape from youri and myriam from holland and scaled that down tapering from full size 30cm long wing, down to half size at the top. I...
hardystein2004
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Hi rob, Just following your designs on Hurry Up, does the sail area need to be further aft as you go faster - why is that? I'll take the masts out in Mandurah...
Doug Haines
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... further aft as you go faster - why is that? Sail area l;ocation is pretty variable, does not seem to make a lot of difference to helm balance or speed....
Rob Denney
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Jan 24, 2007
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G'day, Beams are tapered on the ends so they are a push fit. The tramp holds them together in theory. In practise we tie the 2 hulls together. Very quick...
Rob Denney
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Hi, Worked out excellent large, acessible storage for lementarry. Box shaped, from inside the hull staright out underneath the deck. I find very large...
Doug Haines
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Sail further offshore ... Received: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 04:32:29 AM MST From: Doug Haines <doha720@...> To: harryproa@... Subject:...
David Howie
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I was a few mile off any reeef and still getting it, but you're right the shallow inshores are worst. Hulls not in the way on Harryproas, never had weed probs...
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How easy is it to pop the rudder up and down once to clear? ... Received: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 07:52:39 PM MST From: Doug Haines <doha720@...> To:...
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Storage sounds good, same location as the cockpit on the bigger boats. Sunshade and deck chair excellent ideas as well. Re seaweed. San Diego boats have a...
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Essential equipment , even on the big boat was a large beach umbrella, numerous uses. ... Received: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:24:06 AM MST From: "Rob Denney"...
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Hi Mark To be realistic, at my age the time saving is probably worth the extra money a kit would cost - if it isn't prohibitive. Are there any plans to cost...
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